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Brexit up in the air as May pushes divorce deal for third time

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be the Reuter’s reporter can’t understand or maybe hasn’t followed Brexit from the start.

The fact is that Brexit, the UK’s decision to leave the EU is enshrined in law which the majority of MPs voted for in the Parliament several years ago.

Unless, there is new law passed to extend the date then the UK will leave on the 29th March.

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The divisions show no sign of healing: hundreds of thousands of people marched through London to demand another referendum on Saturday and 5.2 million have signed a petition calling for another vote.

The 77 year old author of said petition has received death threats, as well.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-47678275

Dangerous times.

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Interestingly, the 77 year old author of the petition made repeated death threats against Theresa May on Facebook. She also spoke of buying modified paintball guns to inflict pain on Brexit voters. So, no, she doesn't garner any sympathy I'm afraid.

https://order-order.com/2019/03/22/revoke-article-50-petition-creator-threatened-may-discussed-buy-legal-guns-take-commons/

And the petition has well and truly been hijacked. Some people are signing it under the name Donald Trump and posting screenshots of it online. If anyone's interested, here's a video demonstration of how people create petition bots to fake tens of thousands of signatures on the UK Parliament's official petition website.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkZGPCBlA6U

The lack of security is appalling.

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And the petition has well and truly been hijacked. Some people are signing it under the name Donald Trump and posting screenshots of it online.

There may be a few thousand fake signatories but a lot do get removed by software that monitors the site.

But you cannot dispute the fact that about about a million people turned up in person on Saturday for the march.

A second referendum is the only way to put this issue to bed.

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May pushes divorce deal for third time

And it's going to go down for the third time.

A second referendum is the only way to put this issue to bed.

You sure they won't need a third one? They'll need a third one if the Remainers lose again.

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That petition contains hundreds of thousands of fake signatures. But let's pretend they are all genuine:

16.14 million people voted to remain.

The petition hasn't even managed to get that many signatures. It is still only 5.3 million now.

It is claimed that 1 million people took part in the protest in London on the weekend.

2.3 million people in London voted remain in the referendum. So naturally, it's not so difficult to get local people to attend a protest on a Saturday. In addition, many of the people who took part in the protest were non UK citizens (couldn't vote in 2016) and children (couldn't vote in 2016) who were brought along by their parents.

Considering these facts, those demanding a second referendum are in a minority.

  A second referendum is the only way to put this issue to bed.

No. The only way to put this to bed is to respect the referendum result and leave. I am open to a referendum with choices as to how we leave (i.e. May's Deal or No Deal), but I think even that is a waste of time because nearly everyone (remainers and leavers) loathe May's deal.

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I thought the speaker said May couldn't present the bill for a third vote? It seems May doesn't listen to anyone.

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Interestingly, the 77 year old author of the petition made repeated death threats against Theresa May on Facebook. She also spoke of buying modified paintball guns to inflict pain on Brexit voters. So, no, she doesn't garner any sympathy I'm afraid.

And interestingly, the link you posted to support that claim is from a right wing site run by Paul Staines. A man who supported the BNP.

https://buddyhell.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/guido-fawkes-dictators-racism-and-hypocrisy/

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And interesting that despite the fact that the link provides the screenshots and evidence, you still dismiss it because of the source.

Here's another:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6840249/Former-college-lecturer-cancel-Brexit-petition-threatened-shoot-Theresa-May.html

But I already know that you'll dismiss this too because it's the Mail. Sources like the BBC and Guardian won't publish this info because it doesn't fit their narrative.

Bear in mind that if Guido Fawkes or the Mail is lying, they are opening themselves up to being sued for libel.

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Bear in mind that if Guido Fawkes or the Mail is lying, they are opening themselves up to being sued for libel.

It wouldn't be the first time, would it?

Ok, let's give the Daily Heil the benefit of the doubt (forget Staines) and say she's made explicit death threats. That surely cannot be condoned, yes?

But it's interesting how you condone the death threats made against her. Two wrongs don't make a right, etc.

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I didn't say it was right. Of course it wrong. What I did say was:

So, no, she doesn't garner any sympathy I'm afraid.

I don't think people who dish out the same treatment that they are complaining about receiving can expect much sympathy.

I am sure she is lovely to everyone who shares her views. But, she seems quite a nasty person to those who don't.

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I don't think people who dish out the same treatment that they are complaining about receiving can expect much sympathy.

Nobody should receive death threats, I think we can both agree on that. But that's the problem with online "debate" sometimes. People are very brave from the safety of their keyboard.

Whether you agree with a second referendum or not, I think it's admirable that a million people marched the other day. As I mentioned before, it reminds me of back in 2003 and the million or two who marched against an illegal war.

I think the referendum results should be respected but not at the cost of negatively impacting Britain's closest neighbor. That's the real crux of the matter, which many tend to brush aside.

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She has resorted to blackmail. She said she would quit if her deal is accepted today.

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May totally incapable of delivering any kind of Brexit, and it's hard to see how anybody else could either, given that none of the issues, not least the Irish border, have been addressed in the slightest. There is no way Brexit can be made to work now, if there ever was.

By the way, whether it was more or less than a million on the march, it was certainly more than Farage's 50 in a muddy field in Sunderland. So by the fatuous measure of which side has gone down more since the vote, we have a clear winner!

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given that none of the issues, not least the Irish border, have been addressed in the slightest. 

Thank you for bringing that to light. It often appears that some Brexiteers either don't care or don't comprehend the situation as regards the border and the effects it could have on the GFA.

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@toasted

You'll be pleased to know that the UK, ROI and EU and have begun talks on avoiding a hard border in the event of a WTO exit then. EU officials just admitted that there'll be no hard border whichever way the UK leaves. Happy days!

https://twitter.com/nick_gutteridge/status/1110130145514438656

Just goes to show what a complete non issue this is.

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You'll be pleased to know that the UK, ROI and EU and have begun talks on avoiding a hard border in the event of a WTO exit then. EU officials just admitted that there'll be no hard border whichever way the UK leaves. Happy days!

Well, that's certainly good news. Forgive me if I don't click on this particular link, I'll just take your word for it.

As ever, I wish the UK the best of luck in their endeavours, and the eventual reunification of Ireland.

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Just goes to show what a complete non issue this is.

Although, tbf, I think the communities on the border might see it differently... but I hope still, for a positive outcome.

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