Zuckerberg resists effort by U.S. senators to commit him to regulation

Did USA go through "philosophical shift" after everyone got to know (which was obvious to begin with) that the state was eavesdropping on every communication means of its citizens? No? Oh, right, the noise just settled down and that was the end of the story. The use of such words by this capitalistic scum is, if anything, humiliating.

Lindsey Graham waved around a thick document he represented as Facebook's Terms of Agreement and asked whether Zuckerberg thought every subscriber actually read it.

I wish Zuckerberg would have responded by asking Lindsey if he read the entire tax cut bill before he voted for it.

Zuckerberg in a suit and not his trademark hoodie, yea we can definitely trust him with our privacy now!

"We are going through a broad philosophical shift at the company,"

So the little weasel will only ban 9 in 10 conservative voices?

Facebook is the biggest scam and violator of customer privacy. 10 years ago they were great and revolutionary, but now they’re just a giant greedy, corporate company that could care less about sharing your personal information or photos with anyone. Glad that Zuckerberg is getting it from both barrels and hopefully they’ll change their wicked ways and think about the customer as a top priority.

clamenzaToday  07:32 am JST

"We are going through a broad philosophical shift at the company,"

So the little weasel will only ban 9 in 10 conservative voices?

Facebook does not ban people for being conservative, and never has.

Facebook does not ban people for being conservative, and never has.

What?

http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-shut-down-anonymous-chat-group-for-employees-2017-8

https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/facebook-promises-improvements-after-removing-conservative-p?utm_term=.konve65Nxg#.rg5ZO3eQ7z

Yes, that is correct, from Facebook to Fakebook.

Facebook is the biggest scam and violator of customer privacy. 10 years ago they were great and revolutionary, but now they’re just a giant greedy, corporate company that could care less about sharing your personal information or photos with anyone. Glad that Zuckerberg is getting it from both barrels and hopefully they’ll change their wicked ways and think about the customer as a top priority.

Strange as this may sound I actually agree with you on this statement!

guys a snake of the highest order, here is a well done breakdown of his body language:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F9JfZDJKCQ

Strange as this may sound I actually agree with you on this statement!

It's amazing when both sides can come together and what they can do for a common cause.

hopefully they’ll change their wicked ways and think about the customer as a top priority

@bass, I generally agree with your comment, but if users want to be treated as customers, shouldn't they expect to pay for the service? How many would be willing to do that?

I generally agree with your comment, but if users want to be treated as customers, shouldn't they expect to pay for the service? How many would be willing to do that?

But that’s the conundrum isn’t it? Pay us and we won’t share your information or just shut up and deal with it, but there’s another option, just quit FB altogether. I’m all for the private sector and a pure capitalist, but what FB is doing is way over the top that they can and are now political players that can influence an election of one candidate or party is very disturbing.

Zukerberg is still trying to play everyone as suckers!

FB has ALWAYS been a DATA MINING OPERATION..........PERIOD!!

FB could care less about the people that use FB, those that do by the way are selling a substantial bit of their SOULS btw!

All these big siren sever type organizations need to take note that they MUST change big time or the will become highly regulated and/or users will finally wake up & drop them!!

These big digital companies have become far far too exploitive to be left to their own devices CLEARLY!

I hope FB get ripped a new one, NEEDS to happen

That rehearsed apology is just an attempt to keep people from ditching FB , they need people.

Let's see... a government that feels it has the right to spy on all our conversations, transactions and private mail is investigation a company that sells all our transactions, conversations and privacy.

And some people expect something good to come from that?

Zuckerberg will be right as rain as soon as he agrees to share all that private info with the US government. Not fair that he should have all the sheep to himself. The US government has zero interest in protecting anyone's privacy.

Facebook does not ban people for being conservative, and never has.

Ummm hmmm...

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2018/01/13/how-conservatives-are-being-destroyed-by-facebook-twitter-and-google-without-even-realizing-it-n2433962

When you see a web site/application allowing you to login with your Facebook id.... then ask yourself the question... why ? Given the sudden interest in what do you think the websites do with your details, and ... other Facebook details.

Even this site has such a login... Moderators, given that you are in the know on such matters, perhaps you could share with us, what information you're using ?

When you see a web site/application allowing you to login with your Facebook id.... then ask yourself the question... why ?

To some degree, it's password maintenance, as it allows you to have access to multiple sites, while only maintaining a Facebook password.

That said, I never log into any site using Facebook for the reason you describe, as I don't want them having any more data than I can help.

But if you think you're immune to them tracking you just because you aren't using them to log in, think again. Each time you see a Facebook login on a site, Facebook also sees what sites you are accessing, since the facebook login information is pulled to your computer from facebook, and facebook can see what domain it was pulled from. You don't even have to log in - once you go to the facebook site and login, facebook can associate your user account with all the sites you visited that have facebook logins. If you never login to facebook, they can still associate your IP address with all the sites you've visited.

The only way around this is to block facebook. There are ways to do this, however it means you won't even be able to go to Facebook since it's blocked. There are other more advanced methods where you can block facebook scripts on any domain other than facebook, but allow the scripts when you're on facebook, which means you can still use facebook, and they won't be able to see where you are navigating around the net.

@Strangerland, that's exactly why Facebook is so dangerous, these Login methods are available nearly everywhere from Government sites, to news sites. It all ends up as a Personal Profile.... and now Facebook wants Hospitals to share your medical information with them too.

Zuckerberg is a serial liar, he deliberately misled people about the misue of his site by hackers and bots, he has exploited his users from the start and continues to exploit them. People see this multi billionaire in his jeans and t-shirt and stupidly believe he's one of us, where in reality all of these tech giants are just as ruthless as any other CEO. it's all about making money, and using you to get it.

Just an aside, it's interesting to see that the sign in front of Mr Zuckerberg reads

Mr. Mark Zuckerberg

The inclusion of his first name after the formal title, seems a bit wrong for such a formal meeting, I wonder if there was a message being delivered by the panel ?

now Facebook wants Hospitals to share your medical information with them too.

Wanted. They've since dropped that project.

Wow, some interesting comments from Conservatives. They seem to feel strongly about the impact of Facebook. Suddenly.

I couldn't believe Orin Hatch's questions. He read prepared questions as if he didn't understand nor could follow along. He asked nothing of consequence; only to state that he was concerned about over-regulation. Almost as if he had slept through the past 14 years while Facebook evolved into this content platform that was overtaken by the Mercer's and batted to Cambridge Analytica for Russia to use. So, Orin Hatch: Is it okay that Russia influenced the 2016 Presidential Election in America via Facebook?

It’s been rumored that FB was really developed by the CIA...

Wow, some interesting comments from Conservatives. They seem to feel strongly about the impact of Facebook. Suddenly.

And not a single liberal is at all concerned! I had no idea, Superlib!

@zichi

Google is always watching you especially if you have gmail and sign in automatically, I was shocked to notice one day how they had my location tracked while I was browsing, even YouTube ( owned by google) tracks you searching habits.

Wow, some interesting comments from Conservatives. They seem to feel strongly about the impact of Facebook. Suddenly.

That's the thing about "liberals." Always surprised by things not going the way they assume. But it passes quickly and is soon forgotten.

Wow, some interesting comments from Conservatives. They seem to feel strongly about the impact of Facebook. Suddenly.

Suddenly? I don’t you you can speak for conservatives or liberals in regards to the concerns they have about Zuckerberg and his company running wild with this.

I couldn't believe Orin Hatch's questions. He read prepared questions as if he didn't understand nor could follow along. He asked nothing of consequence; only to state that he was concerned about over-regulation.

Dunno, every single politician to me seemed spot on with their questions and ridicule towards Zuckerberg and FB. Now the trying to silence conservatives he did get a verbal beat down, but other than that, I thought everyone else’s questions and concerns were knockouts.

Almost as if he had slept through the past 14 years

Like Durbin?

while Facebook evolved into this content platform that was overtaken by the Mercer's and batted to Cambridge Analytica for Russia to use. So, Orin Hatch: Is it okay that Russia influenced the 2016 Presidential Election in America via Facebook?

So when the last administration used it that was ok, but the Trump administration, that’s just bad, right? Oh, drop the bipartisan rant.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/20/17138854/cambridge-analytica-facebook-data-trump-campaign-psychographic-microtargeting

Microtargeting means analyzing data to predict the behavior, interests, and opinions held by specific groups of people and then serving them the messages they’re most likely to respond to. The Obama campaign used this technique in different ways in both the 2008and 2012 elections, mining data from publicly available voters’ files as well as social media like Facebook, according to Mother Jones. Though many people say that microtargeting played a major role in Obama’s re-election in 2012 — and it is possible — it’s not proven, says Frederik Zuiderveen Borgesius, a legal researcher at the Free University of Brussels. The campaign did get a lot of attention for the way it used the new social media outlets to target voters, though.

Google has a security tab that’s pretty easy to sort through. You can choose to not save things like your YouTube history or location. I made FB private years ago, probably over 10.

The Zuck comes across like a little boy being scolded by his teachers.

As for Faceborg and other similar sites (Twitter, Instagram), I heard a very wise person make this observation; "if you aren't paying for a product it means that you ARE the product".

I agree that there should be some regulation on marketing of personal information.

However, I am surprised to see conservatives rallying towards regulations in this environment.

I thought it was all caveat emptor and big companies doing what they want to make a buck.

Guess if you are not regulating the in-crowd of old money or the crowd with new money from old fashioned pilfering, regulation is OK.

Given the power these social networks have, there should be legislation targeting these companies to bring them in line with the spirit of the American constitution, particularly in relation to free speech.

The eaves dropping doesn't surprise me. If you don't want to be a public individual its time to get off the net, simple as that really.

deleted my account years ago. suddenly free time and actual human contact.

Lots of people say they have deleted their FB accounts, but to really do that takes work.

I will have to look at someone's FB page one day to see what all the hype is about. Can they really influence your vote? Hard to believe unless you are really uneducated I would think.

deleted my account years ago. suddenly free time and actual human contact.

I can't for the life of me understand how or why anyone would need to spend more than 15 mins a day on it.

@zichi

thanks for the tips, will try them out

kinda skeptical about chrome, read they are not that reliable in terms of privacy, I used to use opera but switched back to Firefox after checking the comparisons.

The next version of Firefox will allow for DNS over HTTPS, which is supported by 1.1.1.1 that zichi posted. Right now, when accessing sites on HTTPS, snoopers can see the domain you are accessing, though they cannot see what you are accessing on that domain. With DNS over HTTPS, snoopers will not even be able to tell what domain you are accessing.

You can't escape the system. Aside from social websites, emails and internet, there are credit card companies and online shopping and abc to xyz. Anytime you receive convenience, you give them part of you and they make money on that information. But you're so wired in the system, you can't live without them making money off your personal information. The 99% work for their money. The last 1% make money off personal information on the other 99%. This is the matrix.