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Coronavirus records in Florida, Texas and California erode hopes of economic revival

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By Lisa Shumaker and Howard Schneider

Record-breaking coronavirus cases and deaths in several U.S. states are dimming hopes of economic recovery, with cellphone data showing shoppers are staying away from stores in areas where cases are rising the most.

In Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia and South Carolina, which were among the first states to reopen commerce in May, retail foot traffic now lags levels elsewhere, data firm Unacast said.

More than 60,000 new COVID-19 infections were reported on Wednesday, the greatest single-day tally of cases by any country since the virus emerged late last year in China. U.S. deaths rose by more than 900 for the second straight day.

Florida on Thursday announced nearly 9,000 new cases and 120 new coronavirus deaths, a record daily increase in lives lost. California and Texas, the most populous states, announced record increases in COVID deaths on Wednesday.

The surge is making some Americans hesitant to return to public spaces and patronize businesses despite President Donald Trump's efforts to downplay the risks.

Stephanie Porta, 41, a lifelong resident of Orlando, Florida, said only about half the people at her grocery store wore masks but that was an improvement from two weeks ago.

"They're trying to make everything seem normal, when it's not. People are dying, people are getting sick. It's insane," she said. "A lot of people are taking notice. But so many are being fed the message that everything is normal. If they're smart, they're scared."

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis called the rising cases a blip, downplayed the record increase in deaths and told residents not to be afraid.

"I know we've had a lot of different blips," DeSantis said."We're now at a higher blip than where we were in May and the beginning of June."

Florida is one of the few states in the nation that does not make public the number of COVID patients currently in its hospitals. However, more than four dozen hospitals reported their intensive care units (ICUs) reached full capacity earlier this week, according to state data.

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The increasing COVID cases weighed on the stock market with the Dow and S&P 500 ending down about 1% on investor worries the nation could face another lockdown to contain the surge.

Governors in California, Florida and Texas have either ruled out ordering most businesses to close and residents to stay home or said it would be a last resort. So far closures have been limited to bars, beaches and a few other types of businesses.

In California, where the number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 has doubled over the past month, the 44-bed intensive care unit at Riverside University Health System east of Los Angeles is at capacity, so the hospital is expanding it.

"It's been very consistent every day in the last couple of weeks," Riverside emergency room physician Dr. Stephanie Loe said. Referring to a saying among doctors that a full moon brings droves of patients to the emergency room, she said,"Every day has been like a full moon."

As cases rise in 41 of the 50 U.S. states over the last two weeks, the nation's educators are debating how best to resume school in the fall.

Robert Redfield, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said on Thursday that keeping schools closed would be a greater risk to children's health than reopening them, even amid the pandemic.

Redfield said the guidelines the CDC has given on operating schools during the pandemic are designed to facilitate their reopening, and he would be "disappointed" if they were used as a rationale to keep them closed.

© Thomson Reuters 2020.

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The surge is making some Americans hesitant to return to public spaces and patronize businesses despite President Donald Trump's efforts to downplay the risks.

err, really? I remember the media and even health officials being fully onboard with mass gatherings with zero social distancing, as long as it was about BLM and Antifa. The press is addressing a readerhip with the attention span of a garden slug.

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err, really? I remember the media and even health officials being fully onboard with mass gatherings with zero social distancing, as long as it was about BLM and Antifa.

Not only do you remember incorrectly, but your post seems to have nothing to do with the text that you quote. It's states "some Americans are hesitant...".

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 media and even health officials being fully onboard with mass gatherings with zero social distancing, as long as it was about BLM and Antifa.

One of the best things about having such a wide variety of media outlets to choose from is individuals are able to interpret what's been reported from so many different perspectives.

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U.S. deaths rose by more than 900 for the second straight day.

I hope the pandemic deniers and other far rightists around the globe don't once again try to claim isn't it swell deaths are down, and say anyway those deaths are OK because the people dying are expendable and they're not people I know.

Rot starts at the top. The USA gets weaker every day Trump/barr push the country faster down the slippery slope toward becoming just another banana republic. Worrying that it'll be a banana republic with almost as many nukes as Russia.

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I remember the media and even health officials being fully onboard with mass gatherings with zero social distancing, as long as it was about BLM and Antifa

I doubt it, judging by the amounts of Fox clips and various YouTube vids posted here.

The press is addressing a readerhip with the attention span of a garden slug.

That's no way to speak about the Fox followers. Some of whom regurgitate Tucker's narrative on a daily basis.

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I doubt it, judging by the amounts of Fox clips and various YouTube vids posted here.

It's easy to forget that when Trump fans talk about the media, they don't mean the flagship news channel of the world's biggest media organization.

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I hope the pandemic deniers and other far rightists around the globe don't once again try to claim isn't it swell deaths are down, and say anyway those deaths are OK because the people dying are expendable and they're not people I know. 

Thank God the markets have a lot of confidence in this administration...

https://youtu.be/l5C0AiT6FEc

Rot starts at the top.

None of the markets are showing anything near as dire, when they start selling off like crazy, there might be a need for concern, but for now, everything looks veeeery good.

The USA gets weaker every day Trump/barr push the country faster down the slippery slope toward becoming just another banana republic. Worrying that it'll be a banana republic with almost as many nukes as Russia.

No, the markets tend to panic and worry if they feel a Biden presidency has a chance because if it does, the US economy is at that point done, it’ll never revive if the Dems start instituting regulations and massive tax hikes. So if the markets are confident that despite the rising numbers and that the deaths are decreasing it definitely works to Trump’s advantage.

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While the press is hyperventilating about "infections", hoping that the economy gets shut down, the CDC confirms that death rates are falling and will soon be below the level where this is considered an epidemic.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

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Ah so

Not only do you remember incorrectly

I remember very correctly. Do you remember any media worry about Corona during the BLM riots? I do not. I do remember that 2000 NY health professionals signed a paper saying that protesting for BLM is more important than any infection.

The Corona scare came back to the media when Trump had his rally.

It is all politics ueber alles.

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Thank God the markets have a lot of confidence in this administration...

The markets are of particular value to Wall Street and the country's elite.

Main Street, on the other hand is being smacked.

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NYC banned all large public gatherings..,,,,.except BLM protests.

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The markets are of particular value to Wall Street and the country's elite. 

And without it, the country is pretty much dead meat. But if you can show me poor people handing out jobs or payroll, please show me.

Main Street, on the other hand is being smacked.

And they always will as long as the Democrat party continues to rape them on taxes, destroy incentives for small businesses, restrict growth, punish job creators.

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If they're smart, they're scared

Wishful thinking, especially over there.

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These protests would be banned....iPhone autocorrect is nonsense sometimes.

yes they should be banned. Isn’t painting the slogan all over the street enough?

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In Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia and South Carolina, which were among the first states to reopen commerce in May, retail foot traffic now lags levels elsewhere, data firm Unacast said.

Want to know what these four states have in common? Each has a Repub Governor and opened early at Trump's urging... Result: Massive surges in infections and deaths, and more shutdowns harming the economy...due to their negligence.

More than 60,000 new COVID-19 infections were reported on Wednesday, the greatest single-day tally of cases by any country since the virus emerged late last year in China. U.S. deaths rose by more than 900 for the second straight day.

Five months we've been at war with the virus, and we now have the largest single day number of infections to date - that's LOSING the war...

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis called the rising cases a blip, downplayed the record increase in deaths and told residents not to be afraid.

"Don't be afraid" - Sure Governor DeSantis - due to your incompetence the virus is surging across Florida - up over 1,000%! You're supposed to protect your citizens, not kill them...

More infections - more people dying - and your President wants you to sacrifice your children by sending them back to school...

And we know how that worked out for all those Trump supporters that showed up for his Tulsa rally...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-rally-contributed-surge-covd-19-cases-tulsa/story?id=71680180

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Want to know what these four states have in common? Each has a Repub Governor and opened early at Trump's urging... Result: Massive surges in infections and deaths, and more shutdowns harming the economy...due to their negligence.

No, deaths remain low.

https://prospect.org/coronavirus/unsanitized-deaths-may-not-spike-despite-rising-cases/

Take a look at the death counts, however, which have definitively slowed. Sunday we saw only 297 deaths, very low even when accounting for a slow reporting day. The seven-day rolling average is under 600 and headed down in a fairly linear fashion.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/16/trump-florida-coronavirus-321600

On Friday, when DeSantis first spoke to reporters about the GOP convention moving to Florida in August, the state was setting new records for the number of coronavirus cases reported each day. But he downplayed the severity of coronavirus’s spread, partly because hospitalization and death rates remained relatively low and stable.

So basically since young people are recovering, less people are dying and DeSantis is not panicking as he shouldn’t it just ticks off the left like nothing else.

But Democrats want our kids to remain home even though they beat us all over the head to listen to the experts and their favorite savior Dr. Fauci also agrees since this virus is not as deadly for kids, they should be able to go back to school, if they don’t then that means many parents will have to stay at home, which also means they can’t work, which also means that economy will suffer, liberals listen to Dr. Fauci, the expert.

And we know how that worked out for all those Trump supporters that showed up for his Tulsa rally...

6.7 viewers is a lot of people, not quite sure how liberals are mathematically off but....

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Record-breaking coronavirus cases and deaths in several U.S. states are dimming hopes of economic recovery, with cellphone data showing shoppers are staying away from stores in areas where cases are rising the most.

But I thought the Freedumb Riders were telling us that everything would be OK if we just opened up the economy and wished the pandemic away with a pinch of fairy dust and an open wallet?

Seems the people don't want to sacrifice their lives in the service of Brazil-style ideology.

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"While the press is hyperventilating about "infections", hoping that the economy gets shut down, the CDC confirms that death rates are falling and will soon be below the level where this is considered an epidemic.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html"

Your link shows data for 27 June. It is out of date.

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"So basically since young people are recovering, less people are dying and DeSantis is not panicking as he shouldn’t it just ticks off the left like nothing else."

No, not true. Look at today's Tallahassee Reports. Confirmed cases, hospitalizations and deaths are all increasing. The death rate took a huge spike upwards yesterday. The other rates have been climbing for the past week or more

https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/07/08/two-charts-show-positive-trends-for-florida-in-coronavirus-battle/

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As usual, the media is playing fast and loose with the facts. Listen carefully to what they talk about and how they play "hide the pea". Cases, infections, hospitalizations, deaths.... all are very different stats and need to be treated differently.

Of course discovered infections will go up as testing increases. IF the number of deaths/hospitalizations doesn't follow, that means that the virus is less lethal than feared.

Similarly, when you hear that hospital ICUs are flooded, that actually means that the separate proportion of ICU beds set aside for Covid are filling up. The actual ICU is not. Most hospitals set aside 20-40% of space for Covid, so hearing "90% of capacity" actually means from 18-30% of total capacity. Hospitals have a financial interest in keeping Covid wards full, instead of having unused capacity going to waste.

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"These protests would be banned"

The US Constitution guarantees the right to protest. To quote Thomas Jefferson:

"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government."

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"But Democrats want our kids to remain home even though they beat us all over the head to listen to the experts and their favorite savior Dr. Fauci also agrees since this virus is not as deadly for kids, they should be able to go back to school, if they don’t then that means many parents will have to stay at home, which also means they can’t work, which also means that economy will suffer, liberals listen to Dr. Fauci, the expert."

We have a boy who will turn 6 in September and my wife and I agonize over sending him back to school under the current circumstances. While the flu like part of Covid-19 is often mild for kids they can bring it home to mamma and papa and get them very sick. In addition the inflammatory disease some very young kids get from Covid-19, the one that shows up much later, is genuinely scary. Don't be flippant about the seriousness of the decisions parents are being forced to make. Distance learning is a huge burden. We know that first hand. But we would never forgive ourselves if he became seriously sick, and since our little boy is a late life surprise him getting either of us sick could end in tragedy.

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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis called the rising cases a blip, downplayed the record increase in deaths and told residents not to be afraid.

"I know we've had a lot of different blips," DeSantis said."We're now at a higher blip than where we were in May and the beginning of June."

Florida is one of the few states in the nation that does not make public the number of COVID patients currently in its hospitals. However, more than four dozen hospitals reported their intensive care units (ICUs) reached full capacity earlier this week, according to state data.

Yeah, don't be afraid. The number of cases has surged. There is a record number of deaths. His advice: don't be afraid. It's bad enough you are fighting a deadly virus. Then you have a clod for a governor calling the surges 'blips.' Maybe my memory is failing me but I can't remember a time when the U.S. had this many incompetent buffoons in top elected offices at the same time. Bad leadership abounds.

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One of my relatives in Texas was telling me that she was having her groceries bagged and delivered to her in the parking lot so she didn't even have to get out of her car.

I feel quite lucky that I can still go to the local Japanese supermarket and walk around.

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No, deaths remain low.

Why are you posting links which are well out of date? Why not just post links from March 2019 and tell us that coronavirus doesn't exist?

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PTownsend; ironically, it is the left leaning folks who are the authoritarians here. THEY want social controls, closed businesses, no socializing, all done at the end of a government gun. THEY are willing to use violence to enforce these restrictions.

The right wants liberty.

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Regarding the low death count:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI5uq6QxLP4

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erode hopes of economic revival

Great news for the Democrats!

If it were true. Nah, we're going to have the economic revival and it's going to start before the end of the year.

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Just give people a choice. Stay home or go out. Ones who stay home may get depression or domestic violence, those that go out may kill themselves or their loved ones.

its all down to the word “may”.

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Many of us knew this would happened and tried to warn others.

Of course it fell on deaf ears.

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Would Washington not want to take a serious note about this?

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"PTownsend; ironically, it is the left leaning folks who are the authoritarians here. THEY want social controls, closed businesses, no socializing, all done at the end of a government gun. THEY are willing to use violence to enforce these restrictions.

The right wants liberty."

None of the social distancing and closed businesses are new. In the late 1800s and early 1900s the US had numerous epidemics, diseases like typhus and smallpox. Closing businesses, even requiring populations to get vaccinated, were normal public policy measures to contain these epidemics. As far back as 1905 the US Supreme Court ruled states could enforce compulsory vaccinations of its citizens during an epidemic, see Jacobson v Massachusetts 197 U.S. 11 (1905). To quote that ruling "Real liberty for all cannot exist if each individual is allowed to act without regard to the injury that his or her actions might cause others; liberty is constrained by law."

To quote Thomas Jefferson: "Every man is under the natural duty of contributing to the necessities of the society; and this is all the laws should enforce on him."

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Why are you posting links which are well out of date? Why not just post links from March 2019 and tell us that coronavirus doesn't exist?

Sorry, this one is up-to-date.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/health/coronavirus-mortality-testing.html

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