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Man suspected of killing Canadian Muslim family with his truck was motivated by hate: police

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What a dirtbag. Many Muslims come to Canada and the USA to escape the fanatical types like ISIL. And during the 90s they were the target of genocide in ex-Yugoslavia. They don't deserve this crap.

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Sad to see someone so young already twisted by hate, him spending the rest of his life will not repair the loss of lives he caused, but it is the least he deserves for this crime.

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Lock him up forever.

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Murder is murder. His "feelings" are irrelevant to that. The sentence should not be different if he murdered out of "love".

In the event, when we see an article about one of the numerous islamist car attacks in Europe, the writer never speculates about "hate". Why is that?

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@WilliB I think I know what you are trying to say, so may I fill in the gaps for you?

When some white nutter murders Muslims, we should ignore his racism, politics, religion and hatred because it makes right-wingers look as bad as the people that they hate. When the opposite happens, we definitely shouldn't ignore those things, and the media that you don't read should make sure of that.

Am I close?

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MatejToday  01:12 pm JST

there are many attacks happening around the world like this,so why this particular one need extra publicity?

What evidence is there that this incident is getting 'extra publicity'. Should it get no attention? Why shouldn't it get exposure and attention. Because you'd rather not know about it or keep your head in the sand?

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When some white nutter murders Muslims, we should ignore his racism, politics, religion and hatred because it makes right-wingers look as bad as the people that they hate. When the opposite happens, we definitely shouldn't ignore those things, and the media that you don't read should make sure of that. 

Am I close?

Bingo!

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@ClippetyClop

Reminds me if that mosque shooting i. Canada not too long ago where all the right wingers were certain the perp was a Syrian refugee before a single report had been released. They spread that baseless assumption as fact as far as they could.

Then it turned out the perp was a right-wing white guy and suddenly those same sources were going “well, we shouldn’t speculate on his motives and religion and political leanings…”

WilliB is acting like we should disregard the terrorist’s identity because I’m willing to bet my bottom dollar he and WilliB look a lot more similar than ol Willi is comfortable with.

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Then it turned out the perp was a right-wing white guy and suddenly those same sources were going “well, we shouldn’t speculate on his motives and religion and political leanings…”

Bingo!

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When some white nutter murders Muslims, we should ignore his racism, politics, religion and hatred because it makes right-wingers look as bad as the people that they hate. When the opposite happens, we definitely shouldn't ignore those things, and the media that you don't read should make sure of that.

Am I close?

Hippipty Hoopla! Say whaaaat?

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When some white nutter murders Muslims, we should ignore his racism, politics, religion and hatred because it makes right-wingers look as bad as the people that they hate. When the opposite happens, we definitely shouldn't ignore those things

Not sure why the black and white response to WilliB’s plainly obvious statement that there is selective coverage of crime stories based on the race of the perpetrator and the relative “oppression status” of the victim. It’s pretty obvious that is how social justice journalism as taught today works. Major crime stories should be covered regardless of the race of the perpetrator. When a black cop kills an unarmed white person, which does happen, it isn’t covered at all because it goes against the narrative. Conversely this story feeds the narrative that white supremacy is the most evil force in the world bar none. When in actuality it is only supported by a few thousand people spread across half the globe. Scare tactics like these are leveraged to enhance the power of the Left. Most of the media have no problem playing along.

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Not sure why the black and white response to WilliB’s plainly obvious statement that there is selective coverage of crime stories based on the race of the perpetrator and the relative “oppression status” of the victim.

Yes, the right-wing media definitely frames the crime different based on the color of the perpetrator. Brown: Terrorist. White: misguided.

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I would suspect more sad stories of hate coming out of Canada. Their leadership has divided the country into boxes, classified by heritage or how they look and doles out the crumbs from the shrinking pie to each box.

Even the government mouthpiece CBC recently said all white men have "yellow fever" and repeated it in the same story as all white men have an Asian fetish. The story was under the "education" section but was really hate speech directed at Canadians of mixed heritage.

Trudeau is the most divisive PM in Canadian history and the country is dived and tearing itself apart. He doesn't even have the balls to publicly fight against the xenophobic law in his own province of Quebe that bans muslin woman who wear a scarf from all civil emplyment including being a teacher or a nurse or working at the driver license bureau.

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When directly asked by a reporter today if he opposes his home province of Quebec's anti-Muslim law Trudeau said "No." He is the worst PM in Canadian history.

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When directly asked by a reporter today if he opposes his home province of Quebec's anti-Muslim law Trudeau said "No."

Link to this please, because I see no such question or reply. All I see is him saying, "I have long expressed my disagreement with Bill 21, but I have also indicated that it is for Quebecers to challenge and defend their rights in court, which they have been doing,"

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@ClippetyClop Here ya go.

“Do you agree with what experts, advocates and activists in the community say, that Bill 21 fosters hatred and fosters discrimination?” Trudeau was asked.

“No,” was all Trudeau said.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-calling-out-bigotry-starts-with-denouncing-quebecs-bill-21

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Hate Crimes per 100,000 Selected Canadian cities 2019 - Source StatsCanada.

Conservative Areas

Winnipeg - 5.0

Calgary -5.2

Edmonton - 5.0

Lethbridge - 1.2

Saskatoon - 2.7

Liberal Areas

Toronto - 7.2

Ottawa - 10.8

Montreal - 5.4

Vancouver - 8.2

Guelph - 8.4

Hamilton - 15.7

An obvious pattern presents itself and is the exact opposite as to what is presented by the Canadian media hidden away in their bunkers in Toronto. Canadian media defaults to portraying people in the strong conservative areas on the prairies as backwoods racist rednecks. The reality is that in areas where there are more liberal supporters, there is more hate crime and rampant racism.

Until the folks in Toronto and Ottawa face the reality that it is them and not the folks in Alberta who are the problem, nothing will improve.

The leader of the NDP, Jagmeet Singh, went so far as to look directly at MPs from the west today when he was looking for someone to blame. It is not conservative supporters who are the problem, it is liberal and left Canada that is the problem.

Ottawa has the second worst hate crime stats in the entire country, but they try to blame Calgary.

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@proxy

What on earth are you talking about?

“Do you agree with what experts, advocates and activists in the community say, that Bill 21 fosters hatred and fosters discrimination?” 

This is very different from your claim that “When directly asked by a reporter today if he opposes his home province of Quebec's anti-Muslim law Trudeau said "No."

Completely dishonest manipulation, fake news, not even close to what you claimed. Done with you.

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@ClippetyClop

Good, cause I have been done with you since you wrote

"When some white nutter murders Muslims, we should ignore his racism, politics, religion and hatred because it makes right-wingers look as bad as the people that they hate. When the opposite happens, we definitely shouldn't ignore those things, and the media that you don't read should make sure of that. Am I close?"

Now that is fake news!

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Now that is fake news!

No, that’s an opinion. You claimed it was a direct question to Trudeau. The truth is that it was a completely different question that you had to lie about

You’ve been caught. Nothing you claim can be trusted since you lied.

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If there is one thing I wish Canada could adopt from Japan, it's the Nagayama Standard as the sentencing guideline for capital punishment. I just like the way everything is solidly detailed and explained as a scale to mesure who should live and who should die as dictated by the law after commiting a crime.

There are cases out there where you know you don't see possible redemption in a perpetrator. Death penalty should be a last resort. But those who commit multiple premeditated murders, like that vile creature of a 20-year-old did, are among those cases of last resort.

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Yes, the right-wing media definitely frames the crime different based on the color of the perpetrator. Brown: Terrorist. White: misguided.

More like Terrorist: terrorist. But project if you must.

The idea that people should be judged by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character comes from the Progressives’ woke cult. That’s why you are seeing institutions throughout Canada and the US pushing explicitly race based policies meant to achieve equal outcomes regardless of people’s individual talents and interests. Racism is racism no matter if it’s pushed by Democrat and avowed Progressive President Wilson premiering Birth of a Nation in the White House or Joe Eagle declaring on the campaign trail that discrimination is necessary to end discrimination. It’s just sad how people can be misled into believing this garbage.

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An obvious pattern presents itself and is the exact opposite as to what is presented by the Canadian media hidden away in their bunkers in Toronto. Canadian media defaults to portraying people in the strong conservative areas on the prairies as backwoods racist rednecks. The reality is that in areas where there are more liberal supporters, there is more hate crime and rampant racism.

And more diversity, which leads to more hate crimes. Rural areas are generally less diverse, with less ethnic mixing, and therefore less opportunity for such incidents.

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The original claim:

When directly asked by a reporter today if he opposes his home province of Quebec's anti-Muslim law Trudeau said "No."

Then when pushed, it turns out that was incorrect, and the actual question asked was:

Do you agree with what experts, advocates and activists in the community say, that Bill 21 fosters hatred and fosters discrimination?

Right-wingers have lost ethics in debate.

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Clippety

When some white nutter murders Muslims, we should ignore his racism, politics, religion and hatred because it makes right-wingers look as bad as the people that they hate. When the opposite happens, we definitely shouldn't ignore those things, and the media that you don't read should make sure of that.

Make it the opposite, and you have the mainstream media formula. Check out how ideology is systemaically blanked out when we read about jihadist violence. By the way,, plenty of jihadis are white, and plenty of jihadi victims are non-white, so those racist slogans are getting a bit old.

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P. Smith

That’s why you are seeing institutions throughout Canada and the US pushing explicitly race based policies meant to achieve equal outcomes regardless of people’s individual talents and interests.

This isn’t accurate in the least.

Read up on "Critical Race theory" (which Biden re-introduced) and then come back and tell us what is accurate.

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