New York, New Orleans hospitals reel as U.S. leads world in coronavirus cases

Mayor de Blasio declared Queens to be "the epicenter within the epicenter". Ironic that. The people of Queens will not thank or remember kindly their famous son whose "oranges" lie there.

Listened to Gov. Cuomo. I don't even live in NY, but listening to him, especially in light of the national leadership vacuum, just makes me feel better in these frightening times. He is a true leader, and it makes me both sad and angry that we don't have this type of example and direction coming from the WH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pQYtc0poxE

I'm afraid the US is still probably still about 4-5 weeks away from its peak. The only thing that will keep critical patients alive is ventilators, and by most estimates the US are hundreds of thousands short. This could get ugly real fast.

CrazyJoe - Listened to Gov. Cuomo. I don't even live in NY, but listening to him, especially in light of the national leadership vacuum, just makes me feel better in these frightening times.

They say that hindsight is 20/20. Now that New Yorkers have already fled, and are spreading the Novel virus in all directions, Cuomo has decided that he doesn't want to be blamed for any of the N.Y. government's past mistakes. Leading from behind must be considered a political victory. This sounds like a "Vote for Cuomo (if you're eligible to vote)".

This is what happens when you ignore social distancing orders.

Knowing what was happening in China during January, the U.S. had months ahead of time to prepare. If only someone hadn't fired the pandemic team in 2018. If only someone would have appointed a competent leader with necessary experience to be in charge of the outbreak in the U.S. If only someone would take responsibility.

Now that New Yorkers have already fled,

Perhaps because many of them were intelligent enough to understand how serious the virus is. They saw how it had devastated China. Perhaps they also understood that anything the US 'president' and his media spokespeople said like 'it's just a flu or cold', 'it's not a pandemic' possibly had to be ignored and added to the list of 15,000+ lies told to date.

Mayor de Blasio declared Queens to be "the epicenter within the epicenter". Ironic that. 

Yes, quite.

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-de-blasio-health-officials-resign-mismanagement-20200316-qboposyibfhdjntdz7eeq4badu-story.html

Chicanoinjapan - Knowing what was happening in China during January, the U.S. had months ahead of time to prepare.

N.Y.C. and N.Y. state had months to prepare after it became clear that China had hidden the Novel virus from the world, and had allowed who knows how many Chinese to leave the Wuhan area. Cuomo and de Blasio argued about whether N.Y.C. should be locked down. Of course, it no longer matters now that many infected New Yorkers have already spread the virus to other areas while Democrat politicians chose to argue about who should be in charge.

N.Y.C. should be sending masks, and ventilators, to the areas where its residents have fled.

America chose the herd immunity approach like Britain. Getting back to normal and the end of isolating will have to last for at least 12 months til the end of the next Northern Hemisphere winter. What I see is at least 10% of the US workforce not being rehired after this virus is controlled. These people were in companies that were being propped up by the economic bubble caused by borrowing and money printing. These companies will fail or downsize. Many US companies will organize virtual work spaces and then realize wow we can employ workers from overseas this way! They will become leaner and more agile. So BOOM another 10% of the workforce is suddenly not needed. So 20% of the workforce needs to be retrained or to relocate to better economies. A lot of these 20% are not highly skilled so what will they do?

I dont particularly believe China's numbers.

it makes me both sad and angry that we don't have this type of example and direction coming from the WH.

You must have missed this:

FULL TRUMP BRIEFING: President gives daily update 3/26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDZ0S5Q_520

So many poor people who don't have medical health insurance don't easily go to hospital even if they feel very sick. They are not going to take PCR test at all. So more poor people are easily infected each other and as a result they infect more people in crowds (train, bus, parties, fellas). Morons still hug and kiss each other on beaches or in parties.

Now that New Yorkers have already fled, and are spreading the Novel virus in all directions

Did this mean CV started in NYC and not China? Clarify?

N.Y.C. and N.Y. state had months to prepare after it became clear that China had hidden the Novel virus from the world

No, Trump failed because Science does not apply to him because Trump and his people don't believe in Science or evolution and think Jesus co existed with dinosaurs 3,000 years ago. Trump does not realize that Viruses don't care about Hillary or Trump tweets. Viruses don't have timelines and since Trump mistakenly thought the virus could be stopped by Trump's twitter account that is why we are where we are. Other countries are fine (so far) because Trump is not president of those countries. Namely SK and Japan. Trump has failed.

many infected New Yorkers

Trump says these are Hillary voters

N.Y.C. should be sending masks, and ventilators, to the areas

Who is going to pay for this? TrumpCare has failed.

I dont particularly believe China's numbers.

That's not the point, nor is it relevant.

Of course China is going to blur the facts. How anyone can think that THAT is what they should be focusing on when people are sick and dying in their own country absolutely baffles me.

The number of U.S. coronavirus infections climbed above 82,000 on Thursday, surpassing the national tallies of China and Italy, as New York, New Orleans and other hot spots faced a surge in hospitalizations and looming shortages of supplies, staff and sick beds.

Which could have been significantly reduced or even prevented if Trump would have listened to his intel agencies who predicted this in Jan, and if he would have seriously responded instead of downplaying and minimizing the threat - everyone remember when he said it first was a "hoax", the it was "contained?

This will go down as one of the worst and most incompetent performances by a President in our history - it has and will cost lives and wreck our economy...

Trump's picture will hang next to Hoover and Nixon's as the three Presidents whose incompetence and criminality most damaged our country...

FULL TRUMP BRIEFING

The virus does not care about Trump briefings. All he does is blame Hillary for the virus and the virus keeps spreading - Hillary or no Hillary. Look at how incompetent Trump is handling the CV crisis and thank god he is not prime minister of Japan and you can rely on Japan's government healthcare to take care of anyone who gets sick unlike TrumpCare. What is Trump's medical plan? How are CV cases going to be paid for? Did he say he will have something better than ObamaCare when the house goes back to the Republicans (a long time from now)? Did the virus agree to wait until this happens? Do viruses follow timelines? Will the virus follow what Trump wants from Trump's twitter account?

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N.Y.C. should be sending masks, and ventilators, to the areas where its residents have fled.

I am still unable to find any articles or links showing your constant claim?

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-yorkers-are-fleeing-the-city-to-escape-the-coronavirus-2020-3

The number of U.S. coronavirus infections climbed above 82,000 on Thursday, surpassing the national tallies of China and Italy, as New York, New Orleans and other hot spots faced a surge in hospitalizations and looming shortages of supplies, staff and sick beds.

Yep, that virus sure was "contained" wasn't it?

With medical facilities running low on ventilators and protective masks and hampered by limited diagnostic testing capacity, the U.S. death toll from COVID-19, the respiratory disease caused by the virus, rose beyond 1,200.

And the US was certainly "the most prepared", right?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/07/politics/fact-check-white-house-coronavirus-contained/index.html

This botched and bungled circus goes way beyond Katrina - this will go down as the most incompetent and disastrous emergency response in our nation's history.

And there's only one person who is responsible - the clown who claims he's not responsible...

nishikat - Did this mean CV started in NYC and not China? Clarify?

As I said, "Cuomo and de Blasio argued about whether N.Y.C. should be locked down. Of course, it no longer matters now that many infected New Yorkers have already spread the virus to other areas while Democrat politicians chose to argue about who should be in charge".

I would love to hear how you have managed to confused N.Y.C. with China.

all Ive heard from Cumo and his brother is blah blah.

Starting months ago they ignored this; it was just a side show over in China and Japan

America chose the herd immunity approach like Britain.

Britain abandoned this approach after the models predicted unmanageable death and disease across the country before putting the country under strict quarantine.

This goes beyond NYC. It may be the epicenter, but other states are not far behind. While most have a couple of thousand or so, this can rise to tens of thousands in a little over a week.

Many states have fewer than a hundred infections, but the whole of the USA had fewer than a hundred a month ago and yet today it has more than China.

To control the spread, a national lockdown is probably the best decision on balance.

Apparently the country needs to "go back to work" according to the president.

Expect a million infections in a month.

nishikat:

We have to get our country back to work

Well, that is a common sense statement. But he did not say tomorrow now, didn´t he. Of course, there will have to be phased return to normality, as the virus situation gets under control. Just what are you complaining about?

as the virus situation gets under control

WRONG

While the President is telling a tale of great successes, of a government powerfully mobilizing, front-line health care workers are facing gruesome scenes in hospitals in a growing number of hot spots.

(news source)

Well, that is a common sense statement. But he did not say tomorrow now, didn´t he. Of course, there will have to be phased return to normality, as the virus situation gets under control. Just what are you complaining about?

Of course the whole world is going to back to work at some point. That is the bleeding obvious.

He constantly bangs on about it being soon, and talks of churches being full at Easter. He spoke of weeks not months. However, the lockdown only affects a third of American citizens. Elsewhere, it is spreading rapidly and unseen, until we get an explosion in cases in a few weeks.

By not taking control now, the situation will be beyond his control in a very short period. Shut down today, it could be contained at a couple of hundred thousand cases. Leave it a week or so we may be talking millions.

Cases in the US will probably be 100,00 by the end of today. 200,000 by the end of next week.

He described the state's projected shortfall in ventilators - machines that support the respiration of people have cannot breathe on their own - as "astronomical."

Then its time to get busy sourcing and making them in your state. I bet the turn around in Japan would be over night to make that.

I saw an engineer on youtube make one with parts you can buy at the hardware store and online.

I saw an engineer on youtube make one with parts you can buy at the hardware store and online.

Really? You can make ventilators from just going to Home Depot? For example you can buy these key parts at Home Depot that make up ventilators? Like this:

Gas blender.

Gas accumulator.

Inspiratory flow regulator.

Humidification equipment.

Patient circuit.

Expiratory pressure regulator (i.e PEEP valve)

When I go to Home Depot I just see stuff like hammers and saws. I never saw the ventilator parts department or parts like mentioned above. Or can you make a ventilator out of wood and screws? Please clarify.

google simple ventilator type 555 timer

of course its not production ready but goes to show with some innovation anything can be made

of course its not production ready but goes to show with some innovation anything can be made

Sounds like a ventilator that would be more deadly than the virus itself. Can we really build a ventilator as easily as a birdhouse? Just get a few items at Home Depot and we are all good to go? Hospital grade? I want to know how it is possible to build a medical grade ventilator just by simply going to Home Depot. This is really interesting.

its not a MRI machine. It inflates the lung, patient exhales and according to some closed loop feedback the machine monitors and inflates again. So yes, it is simple