Researchers double U.S. coronavirus death toll forecast to 135,000, citing eased restrictions

“We’re going to lose anywhere from 75, 80 to 100,000 people. That’s a horrible thing,” he told Fox News.

Where are all the trump supporters now to defend his incompetence? Oh, my.............!

Dr. Murray- previously with the WHO for 6 years, heavy involvement with the Gates Foundation and guest speaker at the Clinton Global Initiative Winter Meeting 2016.

This model has been wrong from Day One. fear mongering at its finest. We never said we would stay home until the virus is totally eliminated. Just until the curve was flattened which it was.

IHME director, Dr. Christopher Murray, said in a statement.

Under trump's incompetent leadership, the number of COVID-19 deaths (65,000 +) are greater more than 53,000 American lives lost during World War I. 

Dr. Murray- previously with the WHO for 6 years, heavy involvement with the Gates Foundation and guest speaker at the Clinton Global Initiative Winter Meeting 2016.

This model has been wrong from Day One. fear mongering at its finest. We never said we would stay home until the virus is totally eliminated. Just until the curve was flattened which it was.

How so? Please provide evidence or proof!

I have some:

> Dr. Ashish Jha, the Director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, said that the coronavirus death toll 100,000-200,000 that Trump is celebrating is horrible.

Here is some more:

Dr. Jha said on MSNBC, “And those are grim numbers. And 100,000 to 200,000 Americans dying from this disease, it was completely unnecessary, but here we are and looking forward. 

Expert Rips Trump’s Claim That 100,000-200,000 Deaths Means He Did A Good Job

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/03/29/expert-rips-trumps-claim-that-100000-200000-deaths-means-he-did-a-good-job.html

Is this what trump means by "wartime president"?

Ok blacklabel.... do us a favor and put a number up regarding how many covid-19 deaths would be unacceptable to you. No need to preface it with an explanation or five off into a “what is a Covid death really” deflection, just a number that is your personal “The disease is worse”.

In the state where I live confirmed infections are going up by 1,000~1,500 every 2 days... I remember when I left for a short trip to Japan at the very end of February we only had 2 cases of COVID the entire state and no deaths. When I got back in the first week of March it had gone up to 160+ and 2 deaths...

Now sitting on 16,000+ cases going up every 2 days and almost 900+ deaths. In my state alone... which has much less people than NY state and CA. Possibility of a spike occurring with the idiots wanting to magically reopen everything (even with restrictions) without a sign of declining in the spread of the virus in the US.

A number that is more than (the usual seasonal flu + murders that arent happening + car accidents that people arent dying from) that would be the starting point of a number where I would become concerned.

People here act like if we all just stay home for 12-18 months that no one will ever die. People go to the grocery store and dont die. But you cant go to the park with your kid or surf at the beach or go for a drive and stay in your car to watch a sunset or listen to a church service? people die, its part of life.

do us a favor and put a number up regarding how many covid-19 deaths would be unacceptable to you.

Researchers double U.S. coronavirus death toll forecast to 135,000

Jared Kushner: A success story.

liberal states are reopening too under the direction of their governors. So wouldnt any future deaths in those states now be the responsibility of those governors and their decisions?

Or is it Trump still because he allowed them to make their own decisions to reopen? (which is what liberals claimed was their legal right, not his?)

with the idiots wanting to magically reopen everything

Trump supporters are even shooting people who make them wear masks in Michigan. But lets not blame the Michigan governor for her policies that refuse to ease restrictions.

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/3-family-members-charged-after-security-guard-shot-to-death-over-face-mask-dispute-in-flint

who are these experts, are they the same experts who predicted hot summer will naturally kill the virus?

or we don't need masks at all even going outside, we are fine with washing our hands only,

now, we need have masks on all time outside, anything scarf, ski masks, homemade masks,

this virus will stay with us for while?

Don't take Advil, take Tylenol

what the heck, where did you get your degrees I wonder,

I don't think we can say X number of deaths are ok. Once we do that, we halt society, as no amount of deaths is ever 'ok'. But, the fact is that life is a part of death, and that means that to some degree we have to accept that certain actions will lead to people dying. Cars are a good example of this. I don't like it that people die in car accidents every day, but it happens.

Now that said, a virus is not the same as a car accident. And neither are all viruses made the same. Hunkering down to flatten the curve has been the correct thing to do across the world, but we need to find a healthy balance between protecting our vulnerable, and allowing our healthy to live. That means we need a solution that balances the epidemiological considerations required to keep the infections down to a level that our health care systems can deal with, with the economical requirements of a race that, like it nor not, in its current state runs on consumerism. That's something we should probably put some serious consideration to in the future, but for the more immediate need is for people to have a means to feed themselves.

The only problem I have is people who say 'we need to open the economy', without having any scientific basis behind their reasoning/timing. Deciding its time to open the economy based solely on the fact that dopamine addicted people are tired of being stuck inside, is not a scientifically based decision. Work with some scientists to put out a proper timeline, and the people will be much more likely to buy into it.

Trump supporters are even shooting people who make them wear masks in Michigan. But lets not blame the Michigan governor for her policies that refuse to ease restrictions.

This just demonstrates how stupid and repugnant Trump supporters are. Remember, guns don’t kill people, people kill people; just like ordering people to wear masks doesn’t kill people, ignorant Trump fans kill people.

Jared Kushner: A success story.

Yes this is the same Jaren Kushner who made the single WORST real estate deal in American History (this is not a hyperbole, its a fact...look it up) 666 Fifth Avenue...can't make this stuff up

134,000 deaths by August. 200,00 new cases and 3,000 deaths by June 1st. Yeah. Some success story.

And the number of deaths, while ultimately unknowable with accuracy are almost certainly higher than the reported number as they only account for those who tested positive and later died. According to a CNN report, the United States had 66,000 more deaths than average for the February-April period (apart from those due to Corona.

Were all all of them due to Corona? Certainly not.

Were a a large portion of them unreported Corona deaths? I believe so.

We may very likely be at the 100,00+ deaths level now.

Great job, Donnie.

Are you seriously claiming that the Governor of Michigan's refusal to ease restrictions in her State makes her blameworthy for the shooting of a security guard who was doing his job by asking a woman to wear a face mask while she was inside the store?

That is exactly what is being claimed. Sweet “logic,” don’t you agree?

USA is broken. Don't be like USA

liberal states are reopening too under the direction of their governors. So wouldnt any future deaths in those states now be the responsibility of those governors and their decisions?

Or is it Trump still because he allowed them to make their own decisions to reopen? (which is what liberals claimed was their legal right, not his?)

You still no comprende... If the spread were DECLINING, it would make sense to ease restrictions. It HAS NOT BEEN DECLINING. Even with restrictions it keeps increasing because too many idiots don't listen or do what they should do to prevent the spread of the disease in the first place. If I could trust my fellow Americans to do what's right for themselves and others then we'd all be much better off... unfortunately that is not the case.

And also you're back on your "whaddabout liberals" rant... My state is purple.

no, this is obviously a coronavirus related death and all of those are personally counted to Trump, and only Trump. He personally signed the executive order in Michigan that forced a guard to enforce the policy that he personally put into place against the wishes of the Michigan legislature.

It was the environment he created (Liberate Michigan!) that caused his authority defying Trump rally attending supporters to do this act that he is directly responsible for!

Just let me get this straight. Are you seriously claiming that the Governor of Michigan's refusal to ease restrictions in her State makes her blameworthy for the shooting of a security guard who was doing his job by asking a woman to wear a face mask while she was inside the store?

But now in a Republican state, they realized that government forcing people to wearing a mask to go into the store goes too far.

So in bravely defying the direct orders of that idiot Trump in Michigan, Ohio figured out this is too much. and no one died enforcing this policy. But only thanks to this brave governor of Ohio defying orders of the King of America, that murderer of 60,000 people, Trump.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/3/mike-dewine-reverses-ohio-mask-requirement-order-b/

you still no answer. Liberal (and purple) state governors have also decided to reopen. Their choice under their direction. SO when someone inevitably dies, are they responsible for those deaths? a simple yes or no will suffice. I say "yes". The decision was given to the governor of each state as demanded. so there are no more "Trump deaths", right?

You still no comprende.

By the end of May the deaths on our hemisphere will significantly drop down .

In my modest opinion COVID19 is not that potent on its own. I think the real challenge for the body is to handle 2 or more infections in the same time. Like COVID19 + influenza or COVID19 + other virus or bacteria. Once the weather gets warmer our bodies reaction to intruders will improve and things will simplify.

For USA my prediction is around 20-ish on June 1st.

In asia because of healthier diet overall we will even start seeing zeros.

More unnecessary fear mongering.

@Blacklabel

All your posts 100% spot on.

seriously, this running scoreboard thing is ridiculous.

This Michigan case is one death for team "shelter in place". Directly related to a governor refusal to reopen. Are we going to start counting these too? Lost my job, starved to death. Suicide. Health problems related to lack of exercise cause the gym is closed. scared to go see a doctor cause dont wanna catch corona- died.

How about deducting deaths from the running scoreboard that didnt happen because of coronavirus?

few flu deaths, few pneumonia deaths, fewer murders, fewer car/boat accidents, fewer drownings, less skin cancer, few to no travel related deaths, no deaths from simply "old age" (A 106 yr old woman been in a nursing home for decades- died "from coronavirus" few weeks ago)

SO when someone inevitably dies, are they responsible for those deaths? a simple yes or no will suffice. I say "yes". 

This logic dictates every death from coronavirus I’m the US which number more than US deaths in Vietnam, are Donny’s responsibility. See what happens when your logic is used against you?

This Michigan case is one death for team "shelter in place". Directly related to a governor refusal to reopen. 

No, it’s the direct result of an unhinged Trump fan with a firearm. Remember, guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Just like shelter in place orders don’t kill people, unhinges Trump fans with guns kill people.

So in other words you wont answer the direct question. as usual. Because it loses all the fun when you cant blame Trump any more. Its just a game to you, as people die.

This logic dictates every death from coronavirus I’m the US which number more than US deaths in Vietnam, are Donny’s responsibility. See what happens when your logic is used against you