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3 Russians, Ukrainian named as murder suspects in downing of Flight MH17

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By Toby Sterling and Anthony Deutsch

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"Although they did not push the button themselves, we suspect them of close cooperation to get the (missile launcher) where it was, with the aim to shoot down an airplane."

What? So they're not actually the guys who fired the weapon, just some important guys who happened to be in the vicinity at the time.

What a farce.

Who fired the weapon?

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What? So they're not actually the guys who fired the weapon, just some important guys who happened to be in the vicinity at the time.

Nowhere was it alleged that these three people were in the vicinity of the weapon.

Its a farce when people start attempting to insert "facts" into the conversation.

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What? So they're not actually the guys who fired the weapon, just some important guys who happened to be in the vicinity at the time.

What a farce.

It's made pretty clear in the article why these men are being charged. It's no different than going after a terrorist bomb maker even though he wasn't the one planting the bomb.

"These suspects are seen to have played an important role in the death of 298 innocent civilians," Dutch Chief Prosecutor Fred Westerbeke said.

"Although they did not push the button themselves, we suspect them of close cooperation to get the (missile launcher) where it was, with the aim to shoot down an airplane."

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While valid when looking solely at peacetime, civilian criminal law, this is an extremely forced prosecution from the perspective of law as an entirety. To move weapons with the "aim to shoot down an airplane" is not a crime in a time of conflict. If that were the case, a lot of CIA operatives will have to be prosecuted for moving Stinger missiles to the Afghans with the "aim to shoot down (Soviet) airplanes".

But hey, anything to get at the Russians, eh?

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The downing of a civilian airliner whether in peace or conflict is a crime but these thugs will never serve a sentence because Russia does not allow the extradition of its people.

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At least three of them are dead, apparently. Good luck with that....

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Dutch authorities said Russia has not cooperated with the inquiry

Old lies die hard. Russians several times asked to be a part of the investigation but were refused. Almaz-Antey, the maker of the Buk missile, turned itself inside out to give the investigators all the information about the missile, but the Dutch wouldn't hear that. Why? Because it will ruin the whole carefully constructed hoax.

 The investigators should concentrate their attention on the exercise of the Ukrainian air defence forces on the day of the tragedy, particularly on the Buk-equipped 156th air defence missile regiment.

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zichi: "Russia does not allow the extradition of its people."

Kazuaki Shimazaki: " a lot of CIA operatives will have to be prosecuted for moving Stinger missiles to the Afghans"

The US does not recognise the jurisdiction of the ICC . This is another claim of US exceptionalism. Refer war criminals to the ICC but not if they are American war criminals.

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The US does not recognise the jurisdiction of the ICC . This is another claim of US exceptionalism. Refer war criminals to the ICC but not if they are American war criminals.

No such thing as an American war criminal. The Americans themselves have said so, many times.

William H. Rogers, the commander of the USS Vincennes which shot down an Iranian airliner in the Gulf in 1988 with the loss of all 290 people (civilians) on board, not only was not prosecuted for his role in the mass killing but was even give an award for his conduct while commanding the ship.

The US did pay compensation to the families of the victims, but there was never any question of prosecuting or punishing either captain or crew, within the US or internationally. There would have been zero cooperation from the US if anyone had attempted it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655#Post-tour_of_duty_medals

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Julian Assarge exposed the war crimes by the US in Afghanistan and Iraq and this is way the US is pursuing him. Forget the war criminals, prosecute the messenger. We are the beacon of democracy. America First to hell with the rest that is our democracy.

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Difficult to forget those kids' happy faces.....

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/we-were-in-hell-mh17-familys-torment-after-losing-their-three-children/news-story/9bc4e40da4b213e8021195f4eddf9dd2

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The joint investigation team formed by Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, the Netherlands and Ukraine found that the plane was downed by a Russian missile.

Let them battle over the evidence in a court

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