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Trump barnstorms Florida while Biden heads for Michigan, early vote surges

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"I will protect you, I will defend you, and I will fight for you with every ounce of energy and conviction that I have."

No doubt some believe him. Fortunately they represent a minority of the country. The majority recognize Trump bungled the pandemic and 210,000+ Americans, many seniors, are dead.

And the Trump economy is in shambles for all but his fellow 'elite'.

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Trump is a victim of a Hunter Biden hoax, Feds say Russians are behind emails

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I'm guessing older people don't much care for Trump spreading the virus around at their possible expense.

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Biden won the TV ratings battle between the two events, according to Nielsen ratings data.

Take that Dumpy Trump! In his mind an incredibly embarrassing loss I'm sure!!

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Trump's such a failure, the last thing he was holding on to was ratings, and even they are suffering.

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Yeah, and there's a big surge of corona in Europe too, and 1.1 million deaths worldwide.

There isn't a big surge in deaths - only in cases.

And of the 1.1m deaths, 20% have been in the USA, despite having 5% of the world's population. And the numbers continue to increase by nearly 1000 a day.

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Biden averaged 13.9 million viewers on Walt Disney Co's ABC on Thursday night, CNN said. Trump pulled in 13 million

The reality TV star can't even get better viewing figures than a fairly dull politician. I would have preferred to watch the Trump performance and I wouldn't even vote for him.

What a loser he is turning out to be.

And there are those on this site who keep predicting Trump a landslide. He still my win on a minority of the vote, but there will be no landslide.

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Biden won the TV ratings battle between the two events, according to Nielsen ratings data.

Lol, that’s all trump really cares about and he can’t even do that right.

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"My heart breaks for every grieving family that has lost a precious loved one. I feel their anguish. I mourn their loss. I feel their pain," Trump said.

Now 8 months later he suddenly gets religion? That is not Trump talking. He has had countless opportunities and reasons to express empathy but never has. I'm sure one of his staff wrote it and convinced him that he had to say it because he is nose diving in the polls. I would like to see the video to see how uncomfortable he must have been while saying it. And I don't believe he meant a single word of it except for when he said My, I, I, I since all he cares about is himself. It's too late to convince me any different.

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Bob FosseToday  08:16 am JST

"Biden won the TV ratings battle between the two events, according to Nielsen ratings data."

Lol, that’s all trump really cares about and he can’t even do that right.

Yes, it's quite funny when you recall comments like this:

BlacklabelOct. 15  02:12 pm JST

Lets see who watches which ones and then listen to liberals mansplain tomorrow why Trump was much higher rated and that it doesnt mean anything.

I daresay that according to Trump's online fans it's Biden's higher ratings that don't mean anything now, of course.

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trump camp is in total panic and disarray.

He lost the ratings battle to Biden and boy that must really really hurt!!!!

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"My heart breaks for every grieving family that has lost a precious loved one. I feel their anguish. I mourn their loss. I feel their pain,"

Eureka! Trump finally found his empathy, or is this just his usual carny barker talk? Like the boy who cried wolf, tone-deaf Trump's sincerity shtick has never resonated with anyone possessing the ability to read body language and parse words. This election will be tighter than the polls suggest, no thanks to the skewed Electoral College system, but this time that's balanced by Covid's thumb on the scale and the withering ads of the Lincoln Project, which means that Trump Republicans have jumped the shark. Next year comes payback.

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No doubt some believe him. Fortunately they represent a minority of the country.

Sure looks like it when you go by 99% of the dominated liberal media

The majority recognize Trump bungled the pandemic and 210,000+ Americans, many seniors, are dead. 

A narrative the liberal media hopes consistently and repetitively reiterating the point people might believe it.

And the Trump economy is in shambles for all but his fellow 'elite'.

So why wouldn’t the rich elite liberal Democrat governors and mayors block people from working? What do they have against the job creators? Do they think by keeping the lockdowns that these job creators are going to stay? And if and when they leave, who will give the middle class and poor people jobs? Poor people?

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..if loving freedom and democracy is weird, count me in!

Well yes, but if loving American plutocracy for the few and faux democracy for the 99% is normal, count me out!

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super-spreader in chief holds more events that will condemn some number of his gullible rubes to sickness and death in order to listen to him rant incoherently about whatever in the vain hope that he won’t lose his immunity from prosecution.

Hypothetical question: Do you care at all about the health and well-being of your supporters?

Maybe I do and maybe I don’t. It is what it is.

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Well yes, but if loving American plutocracy for the few and faux democracy for the 99% is normal, count me out!

All the more reason to repudiate the Democrats.

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You have got to live it that Biden was interviewed by a friendly former Clinton administration “journalist “ who refused to even ask him about the unfolding scandal involving his use of his office to enrich his son and possibly himself directly. Meanwhile Trump had a verbal battle with the hostile hostess on NBC. smh

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You call endlessly professing your love and admiration for the man who lost the 2016 popular vote "supporting democracy"?

It’s maybe a surprise for most Europeans, but California and New York don’t get to dictate to the rest of the country who will be President each time. This is why we have the EC.

Well, you think Trump wrote a novel so I shouldn't be surprised

Ok and?

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WolfpackToday  10:00 am JST

Meanwhile Trump had a verbal battle with the hostile hostess on NBC. smh

I would have personally found that a lot more entertaining to watch actually, so I'm a bit surprised that more people tuned in for Biden.

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Trump is going to be crushed - tossed out in a landslide....

Today Gen Kelly calls him "the most flawed person I have ever known"...

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics/donald-trump-criticism-from-former-administration-officials/index.html

Gen Kelly, you were being too kind....

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I didn't bother watching Biden. He's been around too long and has nothing new to say. Harris will be the next (real) president, anyway. But I did watch Trump's clown show plus, plus because he's the gift that keeps giving to aficionados of the human comedy and to students of abnormal psychology. And to everyone's surprise, not least to Donald Dunce himself, a star was born! Moderator, Savannah Guthrie, no milquetoast Chris Wallace she, gave him such a spanking with her assiduous, real-time fact checking like nobody except Stormy has ever seen before. The sting of the as ever unprepped, winging it Trump's two disastrous performances will be felt all the way to the polls and beyond.

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Big Guy” Biden has some questions to answer.

Great, more people are listening to him than trump. They’ll have to wait their turn.

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If Trump is as worthy of respect as certain posters claim he is, why is that not self-evident, and why do they feel he needs their assistance on this forum? Do they really think that their feeble attempts at using logic and evidence will sway others' opinions? Their credibility - or credulousness, as the case may be - is evident in the net number of downvotes they receive. Maybe try 4chan, or one of the QAnon boards?

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When held to account by a real journalist who happens to be female, Trump reverts to for and insults her looks and calls her crazy.

Yeah, That will play well with suburban women who currently favor Biden 2:1.

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P. SmithToday  11:35 am JST

My thoughts exactly. That gun is not only still smoking, the handgrip is still warm from the individual who fired it. Of course, that’s how the Deep State operates.

Aren't lovers of freedom, democracy and the American Way lucky that the Deep State also leaves laptops filled with incriminating data lying around for allies of the President to find just before elections. I did think the Deep State might be a bit smarter and more discreet personally, but I guess not...

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https://www.chicagotribune.com

Biden’s average polling lead today is smaller than Clinton’s was at a similar point in 2016 in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Ohio. It’s slightly larger than Clinton’s lead was in North Carolina. And, of course, for what it’s worth (not much), his lead is significantly larger than Clinton’s was in the national polls.

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Biden’s average polling lead today is smaller than Clinton’s was at a similar point in 2016 in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Ohio. It’s slightly larger than Clinton’s lead was in North Carolina. And, of course, for what it’s worth (not much), his lead is significantly larger than Clinton’s was in the national polls.

So either you trust polls and he’s winning or you don’t trust polls and nobody knows.

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So either you trust polls and he’s winning or you don’t trust polls and nobody knows.

One more time. The standard is: if it supports Trump, it’s credibly and not to be questioned; if it doesn’t, it lacks all credibility. It really is that simple.

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I wonder, do you trust Nielsen ratings today?

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When held to account by a real journalist who happens to be female, Trump reverts to for and insults her looks and calls her crazy. 

Trump was definitely right about that., The room it was smug and she was rude and she constantly interrupted him and it is not about her, she is supposed to ask questions and it’s a Townhall and she is supposed to let the audience ask questions, but they only got 10 and she asked about 43 times and I give the president credit, because I would’ve gotten up and walked away from her, because anybody that’s going to be that disrespectful, I wouldn’t give them the time of the day, as a moderator you’re also supposed to listen and to allow the person finished their Sentence.

Yeah, That will play well with suburban women who currently favor Biden 2:1.

and that is one of the reason why so many people complained about this woman and now she’s hiding it was a good reason

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How do liberals know Biden is winning? That’s all I read in the media that he is double digit leading.

polls, right?

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