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Johnson calls for Dec 12 election to break Brexit deadlock

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While it wont be popular with those who support the Brexit move, another referendum might be the best way to come to a final decision.

Seems to me that far too many who voted for the move where not aware of the problems that leaving the EU would incur.

Who knows, but another referendum might break the impasse, one way or another!

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Is not going to happen.

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Parliament is at an impasse. Something has to be done. Well, something needs to be done. The big question is whether, or not, the political parties have the wisdom, and grace, to allow the voters to decide which way they want their government to continue.

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Yes it is way time for the election. But the remainer Labour MPs are so fearful of the election as they will all lose their jobs in the coming revenge from voters. Then Johnson can carry out the result of the referendum and get the UK the hell out of the eu.

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Be wary of the polls, voter intentions, polling forecast can be a fatale misnomer and costly.

Leave was always in the lead: why the polls got the referendum result wrong

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/eu-referendum-polls/

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Will Parliament agree to have the general election? lol

More than three years after Britons voted 52%-48% to be the first sovereign country to leave the European project

It wasn't binding. Too many Remainers in Parliament. Ya'll better remedy this Dec. 16.

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A second referendum with the options of leave with a deal or leave with no deal seems to be the least objectionable way to sort this out. Even the leader of the Brexit Party can’t come up with a convincing argument against it when confronted.

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No referendum, where UK-EU membership is concerned can be legally binding under Lisbon treaty law.

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Jeremy Corbyn will block any early Election in December, his party is likely to be wiped out at the polls. 70% of his northern constituencies voted to leave.

Dead man walking, along with that nitwit nincompoop shadow chancellor McDonnell.

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Jeremy Corbyn will block any early Election in December, his party is likely to be wiped out at the polls. 70% of his northern constituencies voted to leave

Do you think they’ll flip to the Tories or the no-policies Brexit Party? The Lib Dems are remainers.

Don’t underestimate the visceral hatred of the Tories in the northern cities and remember that Farage himself has repeatedly failed to win a commons seat.

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itsonlyrocknroll

Jeremy Corbyn will block any early Election in December, his party is likely to be wiped out at the polls. 70% of his northern constituencies voted to leave.

But I don't think it works like that. I think if there were a general election Johnson stands a better chance to win it. As for Corbyn, voters who are labour by tradition will continue to vote labour because that in itself is greater than even the Brexit and they would hope that in the end even if Corbyn were prime minister he would still leave the EU.

The Tories are the party which destroyed much of the northern counties. Take the once great Hartlepool in the Northeast for instance. Once a community with a working shipyard and near 100% employment reduced by the tories to mass welfare, which in turn it also stopped leaving many people with just free food outlets, closed police stations and hospitals. Massive drugs problems born out of all of that.

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Ahh.... that is the rub Jimizo, zichi

How will the vote split? And quite rightly it could. and probably will divide.

Could the single issue Brexit Party party, the name is a dead give away, spoil and rain on Johnson's parade, or more tellingly could the Liberal Democrats spoil Jeremy Corbyn remain core. This is once in a lifetime flutter.

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Margaret Thatchers blinkered eyed monetarism laid waste to a substantial proportion of Great Britain's manufacturing industry.

Margaret Thatchers couldn't focus beyond her grocery shop dogmatic idealism. Another debate perhaps for another day?

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@itsonlyrocknroll

You didn’t answer the question of where the Brexit voting Labour constituencies are going to go. If you think they’ll go Tory or Brexit Party in large numbers in a General Election, I think you’ll be mistaken.

You may despise Corbyn, but it’s worth remembering that many in the northern cities see the Tories as moral degenerates ( moral degenerates in the sense of not caring about what happens to the less fortunate - remember the parties when Thatcher died ). Very few see Corbyn as competent ( I don’t ), but at least he is seen by many as having the semblance of morals.

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Labour votes may despise Corbyn but they they despise Johnson/tories even more.

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Labour votes may despise Corbyn but they they despise Johnson/tories even more.

Yep, and with very good reason.

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Part of the deadlock is due to the fixed term parliament act of 2011. Previously, the prime minister could just call an election at his choosing, though usually if faced with no confidence. That had some issues, but so does this. UK may soon have American style govt shutdowns without the emergency release lever attached.

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Nigel Farage goes into a pub and asks for a pint.

The barman draws it and throws it into his face.

Farage: “Why did you do that?”

Barman: “'You asked for a pint, but you didn't say how you wanted it delivered.”

Farage: “Okay, I’ll have a pint in a pint glass.”

Barman: “No. You can't ask again.”

Farage: “Why not?” .

Barman: “Democracy.”

How different will Christmas dinner be after Brexit?

No Brussels.

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Honestly Jimizo, I do not despise or feel any ill will against Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn personally,

However I do feel Jeremy Corbyn and loony tunes McDonnell political dogma has decimated a party I once believed in.

The Parliamentary establishment has taken the people/politics into a very dark place. And that could be the reason why unthinkably once stringent Labour stronghold constituencies will vote for a Johnson lead government.

I guess we all could soon find out.

I believe Johnson is about to shut down House of Commons procedure. Also French President Emmanuel Macron could well be about to suffer one of his political rushes of blood to the head and veto an extension, well that is until German Chancellor Angela Merkel launches him over her knee

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The Johnson government have stated today, the UK will be unable to leave the EU on October 31 another failed promise from Bozo.

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December is a stupid time to hold any election, especially one as important as this.

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Serrano:

So on mark. Sounds like a month Python sketch.

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Monty

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Thursday has been the customary day to hold elections since the 1930s. The Levellers proposed that elections be held on the first Thursday in every second March in The Agreement of the People in 1647.

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Under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, Johnson would need over 400 MPs to support an election.

I am not convinced Jeremy Corbyn could whip his opposition MPs to support an Election just two weeks before Christmas. Unless there is a clear logic and reasoning for an extension, the EU 27 patience could well be exhausted.

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> zichiToday 09:14 pm JST

The Johnson government have stated today, the UK will be unable to leave the EU on October 31 another failed promise from Bozo.

Bozo is trying to save face here but he screwed himself royal.

Luddite

Today 09:18 pm JST

December is a stupid time to hold any election, especially one as important as this.

Exactly. Who wants to worry about elections when Christmas season is upon them?

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The Johnson government have stated today, the UK will be unable to leave the EU on October 31 another failed promise from Bozo.

Yeah, he faced a lot of obstacles to that, for example, too many Remainers in Parliament, and he's not legally able to do it.

Do you want to hear a Brexit joke? Yeah, sorry, it'll have to wait a few months.

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Yeah, he faced a lot of obstacles to that, for example, too many Remainers in Parliament, and he's not legally able to do it.

But you keep telling us to get a no-deal Brexit done. How?

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