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Iran tanker heads to Greece; U.S. warns against helping vessel

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Funny how the people who insist that Iran (invaded no one in close to a thousand years, everybody has a right to vote for the legislature that has to pass all laws, the President, even the body that oversees the judiciary, including the 'Supreme Leader', that has women athletes, race car drivers, politicians, business owners, even fighter pilots) is the equivalent of Saudi Arabia (their list of the bad behaviors is accurate for that part of their 'equivalency') see no equivalency between the Saud and Israeli regime (majority of both populations denied the vote when it comes to who rules them, invaded too many states too many times to list here, denial of rights to half their legal population - different halves, based on different prejudices, but still pretty equivalent)

But, then again, when have they shown any sign that facts matter when it comes to the opinions they voice?

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Yes, sad, but still doesn’t change the relationship.

Relationships change. History shows us that. You were at war with the UK back in the 19th century, remember?

Not so long ago, Saddam Hussein was an ally of the US, when Iran and Iraq were at war.

Yeah and we will all be riding Unicorns one day as well, trust me, it’s a known fact

That got you rattled. UN monitors are often sent in to observe elections, it could easily happen in the US under the Trump junta. And plenty of people already boycott US goods, it's not a stretch that one day your country could be hit with sanctions. You've already got the trade wars.

Dunno, I used to go to Hawaii twice a year and been a couple of times to Alaska, they all seem happy and healthy.

Did you notice the Hawaiian flags, as opposed to American flags flying in parts of the Big Island and Oahu?

Anyway, this is the usual spiel about how some think they can buy anyone and anything because they have the money. The might is right option.

It's not going to fly with Greenland. The US does not get to dictate to other nations like Greece and it certainly doesn't get to purchase other nations.

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You don't need it. It's a sponsor of terrorism and behind the proxy war in Yemen. The pursuit of money results in the deaths of millions.

Yes, sad, but still doesn’t change the relationship.

Maybe. Maybe one day the UN will have to act against the US with sanctions. Who knows?

Yeah and we will all be riding Unicorns one day as well, trust me, it’s a known fact.

I'm giving you a scenario where another country decides to buy large tracts of your country.

Not going to happen. Honestly, I would like to deal in the world of reality.

With such blatant disregard for humans and their homes,

Dunno, I used to go to Hawaii twice a year and been a couple of times to Alaska, they all seem happy and healthy.

being seen as commodities to be bought and sold, it's hardly surprising that slavery lasted so long in your country.

Lasted longer in Brazil.

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Yeah, that’s what they said about Hawaii and Alaska, you never know for the right price.

Oh, I know.

With such blatant disregard for humans and their homes, being seen as commodities to be bought and sold, it's hardly surprising that slavery lasted so long in your country.

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But that won’t change the outcome of the strategic relationship we need with the Saudis.

You don't need it. It's a sponsor of terrorism and behind the proxy war in Yemen. The pursuit of money results in the deaths of millions.

Personally, I wish they would move the U.N. out of the US, let Trump turn the building into grand condominiums.

Maybe. Maybe one day the UN will have to act against the US with sanctions. Who knows?

The UK doesn’t have that kind of cash. Come on!

I'm not British. I'm giving you a scenario where another country decides to buy large tracts of your country. Or maybe even the whole thing. Because, y'know, mineral resources and real estate.

Would you be ok with this?

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No I'm not wrong again.

Ok, but I think so.

Greenland is rich in minerals and oil.

Yes, we know that.

Thule Air Base which is also part of NATO

Which is primarily the US, without us, there is really No NATO.

The Danes and the 50,000 Danes who live there will never sell up.

Yeah, that’s what they said about Hawaii and Alaska, you never know for the right price.

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Greenland is rich in minerals and oil. It won't be a financial burden to the Danes

Seems like your wrong....again.

In 1946, the Truman administration tried, unsuccessfully, to buy the entire island from Denmark for $100 million. The U.S. was, however, granted long-term access to important military sites. 

Today, the main U.S. military presence is at Thule Air Base in the north of the country. Thule also serves as a very important early warning radar and satellite tracking station for the protection of the U.S. homeland.

So while the U.S.-Greenland security relationship is already good, U.S. policymakers should use the president’s newfound interest in Greenland to advance closer economic relations with the country and expand America’s diplomatic presence there.

Strategically, I think it’s a magnificent idea.

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But it doesn’t matter if they like it or not.

I'm pretty certain they don't like 3000 relatives being killed by Saudi Arabian terrorists, aren't you?

Why?

Because your country is interfering and telling others what to do. It's not the boss of the rest of the world.

If it’s a financial burden for the Danes, why not? This wasn’t the first time a US President tried to buy the country.

Tell you what, my country's going to step up and buy a few of your states and territories, I'm sure you won't mind. Seeing as the economy is about to go pear shaped and there's all that real estate...

No, that would be Russia.

Ok, he'll be invading Russia next...

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I'm sure the relatives of the victims of 9/11 might have something to say on that.

But it doesn’t matter if they like it or not.

In the meantime, it's worrying to see the US "warning" Greece and countries in the Med.

Why?

Aside from wanting to "buy" Greenland, one feels that his colonialist tendencies are of dark days we thought long gone.

If it’s a financial burden for the Danes, why not? This wasn’t the first time a US President tried to buy the country.

He'll be invading Poland next...

No, that would be Russia.

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*America, being hijacked by an irresponsible dictator as it is has no business whatsoever telling an ally (let alone Greece) what to do concerning a foreign ship.*

One very positive thing about Trump is that suddenly Americans are opposed to the US overreach and telling other countries what to do. Most had no problem with US bullying/invading other countries under Obama, and would probably be equally silent under another Democratic president. It continues to get worse no matter who is president. If hatred of Trump can wake some people out of their slumber, good for him.

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What is there to debate,

A lot.

just deny because Trump supports Saudi. Brush under the carpet.

No, no one in Washington supports the Saudis because they’re swell people, we need them strategically and even if we get a Democrat socialist in the office, they’ll uphold that relationship as well.

"While Saudi Arabia is often a secondary source of funds and support for terror movements who can find more motivated and ideologically invested benefactors

Saudi Arabia is said to be the world's largest source of funds and promoter of Salafist jihadism, which forms the ideological basis of terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda, Taliban, Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant and others."

https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2018/09/19/us-names-iran-as-top-terror-sponsor-global-attacks-fall/

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/01/24/the-iranian-revolution-and-its-legacy-of-terrorism/

Like I said, it’s debatable.

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What if the U.S. seizes it? What will the Ayatollah do? Ask Putin to spank Trump?

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Kalamata! They have the best olives.

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Much of the Middle East problems were created by Britain prior to the world war, and America since and if it had not been been for the oil the west wouldn't have cared so much.

Aye. Successive British and American governments have a lot to answer for. And not just in that region...

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Much of the Middle East problems were created by Britain prior to the world war,

No they weren't. They were caused by the Ottoman Empire, who colonized the region for several centuries. Britain occupied some of the region after WW1, because the Ottomans had earlier decided to ally itself with the Germans, right before the Ottoman Empire collapsed, leaving the region in a genocidal mess, which the British and French were obliged to try and clean up as temporary postwar administrators.

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That’s debatable.

I'm sure the relatives of the victims of 9/11 might have something to say on that.

Not to mention the fact that Saudi Arabia basically got away with murdering and chopping up a journalist for the Washington Post...

In the meantime, it's worrying to see the US "warning" Greece and countries in the Med.

Aside from wanting to "buy" Greenland, one feels that his colonialist tendencies are of dark days we thought long gone.

He'll be invading Poland next...

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It's incredible that the US thought it's warrants trump EU law.

Incredible but not surprising.

Iran and Saudi are the same, almost. Barbaric countries without human rights. The human rights of Iran is appalling by western standards, especially for women who are not free to rule their own lives and for GAY people

Re Iran, I hope you mean 'barbaric clerical regime', not ppl/country as such!? Iranians are some of the most educated/cultured/intellectually curious/hospitable ppl I've ever met (am not talking about expats/docs/lawyers etc am talking about ppl in Iran). Reckon most are pro-democracy (even if that means an Iran rather than western-style democracy) and would welcome more tolerance/equality re women, gays & other minorities if given the chance.

Let's be honest, Iran & its ppl have been demonized by western (esp eng-speaking) media for decades. We the west could/should have worked with Khatami, a moderate/reformist; instead we/Bush told them they were the 'axis of evil'. No wonder they don't trust us.

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Iran and Saudi are the same, almost. Barbaric countries without human rights. Saudi is the bigger supporter of terrorism.

Yeah, only Saudi supplied the world with the mastermind and hijackers to bomb the US on 9/11.

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It's incredible that the US thought it's warrants trump EU law.

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America, being hijacked by an irresponsible dictator as it is has no business whatsoever telling an ally (let alone Greece) what to do concerning a foreign ship.

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@crazyJoe.......keep in mind, there are no UN sanctions on Iran. If however the US wants to sanction Iran then it doesn't make it law. Iran is free to trade with who ever it wants to. Iran is under no obligations to respect US law. You understand that?

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Iran and Saudi are the same, almost. Barbaric countries without human rights. Saudi is the bigger supporter of terrorism.

That’s debatable.

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As if Iran were anywhere even remotely close to being innocent.

The US destroyed Iran’s political system.

What has Iran done to the US?

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It's no wonder why Iran calls the US the great Satan.

As if Iran were anywhere even remotely close to being innocent.

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The sad part here is that Trump the Chump inherited an Iran dominated middle east from Mubarak Hussain Obama.......lol. He's desperate to make sense out of it, but its too late. Iran dominates the entire Northern middle east big time. and there is diddly squat Trump can do about this. He will surrender to Iran, just like Mubarak Hussain Obama before him.......lol

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Washington ...... warned Greece and Mediterranean ports against helping the vessel.

There is not a single quote in the article backing up this claim. Washington is a city of individually minded people and so is American and the U.S. government. So if such a warning was ever issued it was by an individual or a few of them and not "Washington" by anything but an insane stretch of the imagination. So who? What that they say exactly? Is this just propaganda masquerading as journalism?

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Seems totally legitimate to me, Greece is clearly not Syria. Islamic Republic of Iran has been a member of the United Nations since 24 October 1945, so doing trade with Greece is just a normal business transaction.

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It's no wonder why Iran calls the US the great Satan.

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Mr Trump came out looking the chump here didn't he.......lol.....what a fool Trump is. The funny thing is he knows he can't screw around with Iran or else Iran will pull down his pants and everyone will have a good laugh.......lol

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