Report rebukes Comey, but says no bias in Clinton email case

Major revelations in this report

Including that Trump was justified in firing Comey, top FBI officials were openly campaigning for Hillary and taking bribes to leak inside info. Looks like the Clinton investigation needs to be redone. I predict that the charges against Flynn will be dropped after he withdraws his guilty plea.

Including that Trump was justified in firing Comey, top FBI officials were openly campaigning for Hillary and taking bribes to leak inside info.

Yeah, I don't think so, seeing as there is nothing in this article whatsoever about that.

Let's stick to facts,

Looks like the Clinton investigation needs to be redone.

Damn. 94 investigations and they still didn't find anything. Need to do another, right! If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try,again, right!

@cla68burning bush nd taking bribes to leak inside info

I assume you got the info re bribes from RT, Sputnik, (or maybe another of Putin's global media outlets), infowars, Fox 'news' (or maybe another of Rupert Murdoch's global outlets), but could you provide a source? You're not just writing that to flame, now are you?

Trump's allies have signaled they will use the Horowitz report to press their argument that Comey did not act properly while overseeing the Russia probe.

Entirely predictable. Listen, Trump was caught on tape saying he fired Comey due to the Russia probe; it was only later that he concocted the Clinton excuse, one that has zero to do with Russia's meddling and makes zero sense. But "sense" has never been a strong suite of Trump supporters, and that's all that matters to him.

Yeah, I don't think so, seeing as there is nothing in this article whatsoever about that.

The report specifically cited Comey as insubordinate and did not agree with any of his reasons for deviating from "well-established Department policies." Since when would that not be a fireable offense from the president ?

Since when would that not be a fireable offense from the president ?

Then why was Donny bragging to Kislyak that he fired Comey to take the heat off the Russia investigation.

To be clear: Trump is justifying sacking Comey for something that he previously lauded Comey for, claiming it took courage to come forward. Brilliant.

Former FBI Director James Comey made a "serious error of judgment" when he announced shortly before the 2016 U.S. presidential election that he was reopening an investigation into candidate Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server, the Justice Department's internal watchdog said on Thursday.

Yep. We were pretty pissed at the time. Trump fans loved it. Comey gave Trump a freebie.

But the report clearly says he showed no politicital bias. All made up by Trump and the right-wing media. And the harshest criticism is how he helped Clinton.

Pretty far cry from the Deep State talk, huh?

Although the report found no evidence that bias impacted decisions surrounding the Clinton email probe prior to July 2016, it said there were questions about whether bias could have factored into Strzok’s professional judgments later that fall.

So he exhibited no bias in the email investigation. Sounds like a good man with a good track record. Did he suddenly change his mind and exhibit bias in the Trump investigation? Show me the evidence that he did. It’s on you.

As I predicted, this will be out of the news in a week. Fox will start teasing their base with the next explosive bombshell shortly. It’s almost cruel how they string them along like that and they’ve been doing it since Benghazi.

Good news overall recently. Investigators got access to Cohen’s information and now people are saying he might flip, Trump gets exposed as the scammer he is by soliciting donations for a charity and then using the money to pay his bills, he got exposed for making up a conspiracy theory about the FBI, he got caught lying about why he fired Comey, everyone got exposed for lying about the Russian meeting explanation, and Rosenstein put the crooked GOP “oversight” group on notice that he intends to call and investigation into their actions.

Lots of people will be in their safe space tonight.

I deliciously look forward to the left and right banter. My favorite ofcourse being strangerland. Watching the massive cognitive dissonance is refreshing.

How bad is that when compared with a Senate Majority Leader's statement that he was going to make the sitting president of the United States a "one-term president" and that he was going to do everything within his power to stop his agenda? Or to block that president's constitutional right to appoint a Justice to the Supreme Court?

Two rank-and-file FBI agents involved in an affair expressing their political opinions to one another does not compare with the power of a high ranking Congressional officer. We need to clean "House" and the Senate of these duplicitous Republicans and restore integrity to public service.

Then why was Donny bragging to Kislyak that he fired Comey to take the heat off the Russia investigation.

And the Inspector General notes that the FBI had already improperly prioritized the Russia investigation — i.e. targeting Trump — over the Clinton investigation. Specifically, the political biases of the agents involved may have affected the decision to do nothing about Weiner’s laptop.

Looks like Mueller's witch hunt is now on its final death throws. We all know Comey was in it for himself and we all know Hillary was corrupt as heck, we so deeply dodged the bullet on that one. But the most joyous thing on the report and that gives me the greatest satisfaction was that loose canon that just keeps on giving like a Stollen on Christmas.

Perhaps the most damaging revelation in the report is a previously unreported text message in which Strzok, a key investigator on both the Clinton email case and the investigation of Russia and the Trump campaign, assured an FBI lawyer in August 2016 that “we’ll stop” Trump from making it to the White House.

“[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” the lawyer, Lisa Page, wrote to Strzok.

“No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok responded. Page and Strzok were romantically involved and used their work phones to engage in long-running text discussions of various work and personal topics, according to people familiar with the case.

Add to that more and more people are realizing that this witch hunt is indeed a farce and add to that Judge Ellis Calling out Meuller and can smell the ideological and partisan BS a mile away

Judge Ellis-

"I don't see what relation this indictment has with what the special counsel is authorized to investigate," Ellis said during an hourlong hearing in Alexandria, Virginia. "You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud. ... What you really care about is what information Mr. Manafort could give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump or lead to his prosecution or impeachment."

With holes and doubts like these, Trump has way more ammunition now to prove that this witch hunt is totally invalid. Meuller, take your best shot now. ROFL

Comey used his private Gmail for FBI business. But you know, her emails.

Do doubt Trump the inveterate liar will try to suggest that the FBI agent who was probably the most important domestic factor in getting him elected in the first place was somehow out to get him all along in an elaborate conspiracy that involves Comey and Hillary Clinton teaming up together to sabotage her own election. And thousands of Trump dittoheads will buy it without question.

The IG breaks the news that Hillary's mishandling of secret material was in fact intercepted by hostile powers and what - nothing. The IG documents numerous cases of biased behavior by FBI officials and somehow that proves that there was no bias. Say what???? What a joke. Every person in jail for unauthorized disclosure of classified material should be freed immediately. There is a two tiered system of justice in America - one for Democrats and one for the rest of the people whom the the deep state swamp people so elegantly refer to as "the deplorables." The hell with them all.

Do doubt Trump the inveterate liar will try to suggest that the FBI agent who was probably the most important domestic factor in getting him elected in the first place was somehow out to get him all along in an elaborate conspiracy that involves Comey and Hillary Clinton teaming up together to sabotage her own election. And thousands of Trump dittoheads will buy it without question.

The FBI taking bribes from reporters to leak information, one agent who was on Mueller's team that is now not on the team saying that, he wish he could have done something different to have made sure Trump could never get the Presidency, the overall language and the underlying and undeniable attempts to oust this President at every cost. The FBI is out of control, Comey completely broke protocol, their corruptness and their deliberate actions will be the thing that will ultimately exonerate Trump.

Sorry, Katsu, but forget Hillary, she's gone, she's out, she will thankfully never, ever be President, she is just a another pebble on the beach and forget the liberal spin, Lisa Page in her own words as well as Stzok nailed the final coffin in those explosive texts, that is the smoking gun Trump's lawyers need to make any case to take to the Supreme Court should Mueller get in his dimwitted head to subpoena Trump.

Trump and his kids are being sued by the New York AG over their handling of the Trump Foundation with Trump banned for ten years and his kids one year from holding office in a New York charity.

Good luck with that. ROFL

And the Inspector General notes that the FBI had already improperly prioritized the Russia investigation — i.e. targeting Trump — over the Clinton investigation. Specifically, the political biases of the agents involved may have affected the decision to do nothing about Weiner’s laptop.

And yet it was the Clinton investigation the FBI disclosed to the public days before the election, not Trump's.

About the bias, the article says the FBI admits their texts "created an appearance that political bias might have improperly influenced investigative actions or decisions." FBI agents are people, and they have personal biases that they'll express in private texts. As long as they don't let those biases actually affect their decisions, they aren't fire-able offenses.

and numerous deflections already in the comments. I dont have any detailed comment until I completely read the full report, but this is just the beginning of what is to come. Plenty of anti Trump bias was shown in what I read so far, it might not have been "political" bias, but it is definitely Trump hate to the maximum level.

but it is definitely Trump hate to the maximum level.

If there's valid reasons for the hate, and what's the problem?

You guys complain about everyone giving Trump a hard time, but just for the sake of argument, imagine that Trump really was a con-man lining his own pockets while at the same time attempting to create a position that's above the law. What would the appropriate response for the FBI in this hypothetical situation?

If someone is a con man, then you prosecute them fairly following the rules and the law. That didnt happen here. Because the FBI and DOJ are not supposed to "hate" a political candidate or have any influence on an election. Strzok said we are going to stop Trump from being President. Who is "WE"?

Justice is supposed to be blind, remember?

Best part so far is that it is confirmed that Obama lied when he said Clinton didnt contact him from her secret email account. But we already knew that was a lie.

This is good reading but I am more interested in the IG testimony in Congress as well as to see what happens to all these people who now have confirmed wrongdoing. Will there be any accountability for anyone at all? Seems unlikely.

If someone is a con man, then you prosecute them fairly following the rules and the law. That didnt happen here.

Conducting thorough investigations to find evidence is following the rules and the law. That's exactly what's happening now despite Trump's interference.

Justice is supposed to be blind, remember?

Yes, but people will have opinions. As long as they don't let those opinions rule their actions, justice can be served.

Best part so far is that it is confirmed that Obama lied when he said Clinton didnt contact him from her secret email account. But we already knew that was a lie.

If you're so concerned with secure communication, you should read up on Trump's insistence on using own unsecure smartphone for his Twitter rants among other communication.

It's clear from the Trumpster comments here that they're still trying to figure out how to respond to this news. Should they go with "this report proves Comey was a crooked, biased cop" or "AG Michael Horowitz is a deep state liberal trying to take down our president"? My guess is they'll go with both.

No, Horowitz laid out 550 plus pages of facts that are very concerning. The response is ok, what happens next? my bad, move on? or does someone get held accountable? liberals cant say there is nothing there, because there is. tons of it, and Im only 1/3 of the way through reading it.

The inspector general’s office didn’t say where it had made any criminal referrals stemming from the report.

Horowitz revealed that his office is conducting an investigation into FBI employees who “improperly received benefits from reporters, including tickets to sporting events, golfing outings, drinks and meals, and admittance to nonpublic social events.”

Also, Horowitz is also still working on a separate investigation into the bureau’s handling of the counterintelligence investigation into Trump’s campaign’s alleged ties to Russia.

If there's valid reasons for the hate, and what's the problem? 

No hate, especially now seeing those text messages, more like jubilation.

You guys complain about everyone giving Trump a hard time,

No, just people being unfair.

but just for the sake of argument, imagine that Trump really was a con-man lining his own pockets while at the same time attempting to create a position that's above the law. What would the appropriate response for the FBI in this hypothetical situation?

Ok, forget the hypotheticals and stay focus, so what about the FBI agents thinking they have a God given right to trample on the constitution and to plan a scheme of trying to oust the President?

Ok, forget the hypotheticals and stay focus

The hypothetical might be reality. We don't know what the FBI knows, and they may be acting exactly as they should be to stop a criminal.

so what about the FBI agents thinking they have a God given right to trample on the constitution and to plan a scheme of trying to oust the President?

How have they trampled on the constitution?

Also, I don't know how many times I have to ask this, but how does the FBI's helping in getting Trump elected square with your conspiracy theory that they're trying to oust them?

And yet it was the Clinton investigation the FBI disclosed to the public days before the election, not Trump's.

After a prosecutor from the Southern District that was supposed to be working in concert with the FBI complained that nothing was being done about Weiner's computer which had numerous Clinton or State Department related emails. Only then the complaint from SDNY triggered a series of events that convinced Comey he needed to act. Did you read the report ? Comey told the Inspector General he assumed Clinton would win and did not want her presidency to seem “illegitimate." So yes it is reasonable to assume the political biases of the agents involved — specifically, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page — may have affected the decision to do nothing about Weiner’s laptop.

Clear and incontrovertible proof that Comey handed the White House to Trump. As was all too depressingly obvious at the time. Of course the main reason Trump fired Comey was because of Russia, but the sub-text was that Comey admitted he had gifted victory to Trump when he testified before Congress. Trump couldn't bear the thought that his victory was not his alone, and that was the direct trigger for the firing. Whatever Comey did or didn't do regarding the Hillary emails was never anything more than a smokescreen.

So yes it is reasonable to assume the political biases of the agents involved — specifically, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page — may have affected the decision to do nothing about Weiner’s laptop.

It's even more reasonable to assume that yes, they did have a bias, but possible collusion with Russia simply has higher priority than email servers. One is about accidentally leaking information to enemy states, the other is about intentionally leaking information to enemy states.

So why is there not even one text about any crimes Trump or his people might have done? Hint: cause that narrative didn’t exist until after Hillary lost.

Would even one of the hundreds of anti trump texts mention that he shouldn’t be president because he is colluding/did collude with Russia? Not even one text mentions that topic.

So after reading 550 plus pages of anti Trump bias, thoughts and actions you can say with a straight face that “the FBI” helped Trump get elected? When the text message specifically said they are going to stop him and showed everyone crying about that he won?

Ah well, always gonna be some people who only see what they want to see.

Would even one of the hundreds of anti trump texts mention that he shouldn’t be president because he is colluding/did collude with Russia? Not even one text mentions that topic.

Nah, that sort of information is discussed in reports and meetings. Private texting isn't secure, so it's not surprising that all we have is them venting.

The inveterate denial of Trumpettes is a sappy and laughable sound communitcation nothing but a lack of self-respect. Have fun boys, you can join the DNC and their pathetic lot. One would think the RNC suckers would attempt to walk a higher road when in power but no. All they can do is line up grovel before the swamp monster. As un-American as any communist/christian and twice as flabby. Nemo me impune laccesit. Have fun teaching your children Trump's and Hillary's morals. There are still American's who will not compromise and bow to your RNC/DNC false dichotomy. Everyone here who defends any action by that disgusting swamp monster-in-chief is equal to anyone who would even think of voting for someone like Hillary Clinton. As the Bard would say, a pox on both your houses. Troll all you want, trumpettes, you do not represent America, you do not care for the Constitution, and you, like the PC road-to-hell types, will fail.

Ah thats convenient. They seemed to text about everything else, including what was said in meetings. Remember the text detailing all about "the meeting in Andy's office"? Anyway the facts are now out to the public and they serve as a factual basis for any criminal indictments or firings that are deemed necessary. Without a doubt, Comey's firing is now factually justified.

Plus, there is a classified appendix to this report as well as another sensitive law enforcement attachment that were not released.

So lets see what happens next.

A bombshell in the DoJ-OIG report can be found on Page Xii where it states numerous FBI officials accepted bribes from multiple media outlets including: “tickets to sporting events”, “golf outings”, “drinks and meals” as well as exclusive invitations and admission to “nonpublic social events”.

Let the firestorm begin. . . .

Left or right comically aligned folks on here, no matter what points each and everyone of you puts across, point of the fact is, nothing is going to change. Sure the 'con'gress will pratle on about accountability but we all know deep down, system's rigged to the core. So simply live your lives fully with this thought in mind. You will absolutely change NOTHING!!!!

Not to mention that Comey has a lengthy Op-ed already published in the NY Times within minutes of the IG report being released. Lets cover up for our homie, Comey.

Ah thats convenient. They seemed to text about everything else, including what was said in meetings.

There's also the fact that the report is only concerned with the actions of the FBI prior to the 2016 election. The Russia investigation was just something they thought they should look into at the time, hence the prioritizing over the older email case that was kind of going nowhere.

Anyway the facts are now out to the public and they serve as a factual basis for any criminal indictments or firings that are deemed necessary. Without a doubt, Comey's firing is now factually justified.

Even if that were true (which I disagree with), Trump didn't know these "facts" when he fired Comey. He was only concerned with the Russia investigation at the time, and he admitted as much himself.

Plenty of anti Trump bias was shown in what I read so far, it might not have been "political" bias, but it is definitely Trump hate to the maximum level.

Hahahaha you obviously missed the part where the IG concluded Comey did NOT act with any bias.

I get that you just love the Donster, but this is getting nuts. The IG reports that Comey acted inappropriately by announcing the investigation into Clinton's emails days before the election.

Did that help or hurt Trump?

Trump fans told us to wait for the report. The said it would be a bombshell. It was supposed to expose the Deep State and finally show once and for all that Comey was out to get Trump.

Duped again.

Go back to your media and demand to know how they got so wrong, Just like Benghazi. Just like the email investigation.

Stand up for yourselves and demand to know why these results were far from what you were promised. If the same media sources promise you another bombshell, have some discipline and don’t fall for it again.

Don’t be sheep. Demand to know why your President gave two different answers for why he fired Comey.

without any POLITICAL bias from Comey. key word there. Then the report goes on to talk about numerous instances of bias from FBI agents who worked for him. Especially Strzok who decided to focus on muh Russia instead of looking at Weiner's laptop until he was forced to.

Which led to your "days before the election" problem. It should have been a month earlier, if not for Strzok's bias and Comey and McCabe's refusal to force anyone to look at the laptop.

So if Comey and the FBI helped Trump get elected why were they so distraught about it in the texts after the election and why did they continuously talk in panic about what if he wins?

Also if Comey helped Trump get elected why didnt he help Trump stop the Russia investigation? The Flynn investigation? etc etc The FBI would have covered all that up for the guy they helped win, right? Yet....

15:07:41, Agent 1: “...I’m done interviewing the President – then type the 302. 18 hour day....”

15:13:32, FBI Employee: “you interviewed the president?

15:17:09, Agent 1: “you know – HRC” [Hillary Rodham Clinton]

15:17:18, Agent 1: “future pres”

15:17:22, Agent 1: “Trump cant win” 15:17:31,

Agent 1: “demographics dont line up” 15:17:37,

Agent 1: “America has changed”

Yeah this really sounds like the FBI is all in to help Trump win.

Obviously Comey didn't intend to help Trump, but his actions certainly helped him to the extent that he was able to win. Anybody who can't grasp that should really not be posting on here.

so if Comey helped Trump get elected why didnt he help Trump stop the Russia investigation? The Flynn investigation? etc etc The FBI would have covered all that up for the guy they helped win, right?

Exactly no one is saying Comey intentionally helped Trump. But Comey's announcement certainly didn't help Clinton, did it? And in doing so absolutely, undeniably benefited Trump.

ah, so he is such an idiot that his actions unintentionally influenced an election? in a manner that went against what he and all his anti Trump agents intended and had spent the last 2 years working towards? hahahaha thats hilarious!

I wonder how he must have felt! maybe shamed and embarrassed enough to try to get revenge on the President after his election and undo what he did? to get Trump impeached and put Hillary in her rightful place? to show his homies how awful he feels about his actions having the exact opposite affect? what an idiot, deserved to be fired.

@blackl Yeah this really sounds like the FBI is all in to help Trump win.

Did you mean to write there were some in the FBI who might have helped Trump win, some who might have not wanted him to win, and most who were just doing the jobs they were paid to do and were willing to accept the election outcome regardless who was winning?

Or are you trying to present this, too as binary, all vs none. Posters who distort and over-overgeneralize repeatedly in attempts to further divide lose all credibility.

Also if Comey helped Trump get elected why didnt he help Trump stop the Russia investigation? The Flynn investigation? etc etc

Because helping Trump was a mistake. Something he realized he shouldn't have done in hindsight.

The FBI would have covered all that up for the guy they helped win, right? Yet....

If you've convinced yourself of an FBI conspiracy to actively help one candidate over the other, yes.

But the whole point of this report is that the FBI messed up by creating the appearance of that, not that they're actually doing it. The report actually says there's no evidence of them acting on bias regarding investigations.

@wallacefred You will absolutely change NOTHING!!!!

I understand your job is to try to shred the remaining bits of US democracy, but you're sounding just a tad harsh here. Are you guys also going to beer halls with your messages?

So where are the pro Trump texts in the 556 page document? "F Trump!?" No thats not biased all ALL. Where are the texts that say, hey its ok, whoever wins just wins and we will deal with it? Strzok said "WE will STOP Trump." Who is WE? This is the guy who basically interviewed everyone about everything.

Where are the Russia collusion texts? There are none of those either. The entire upper leadership wanted Hillary to win, when that is the case it doesnt really matter what anyone else wants.

Its ok, the facts are out there. Sessions says it isnt over and that the prosecutor will be looking into these facts and any additional facts that are out there to identify who, if anyone, gets prosecuted or fired. Which is what we all wanted in the first place. Accountability for those who did wrong.

his actions unintentionally influenced an election? 

Well done. You got there in the end.

Sure, they cant PROVE it. Because you cant prove someone's motive if they dont admit to it. They all testified "oh us? of course we have no bias! just venting about work to friends"

But Im supposed to believe after reading hundreds of pages of anti Trump texts and thoughts that all the courtesies given to Hillary were just coincidences and every decision that went against Trump was just a judgement call that he didnt get the benefit of or was just a mistake?

Nah, Im not that stupid when I can read all the texts about how people felt. There was serious fear, panic and dread when talking about if Trump won. If they are stupid enough to send personal opinions on work devices and accounts during work time, that means they are bringing their personal feelings (and biases) to the job.

But the whole point of this report is that the FBI messed up by creating the appearance of that, not that they're actually doing it. The report actually says there's no evidence of them acting on bias regarding investigations.

, so he is such an idiot

Not an idiot, it was a tough decision, and ultimately the wrong one.

that his actions unintentionally influenced an election?

You are right. He should have said nothing, let the electorate nominate Hillary, and hope like hell that word never gets out, because the totally reasonable folks running the Benghazi investigations would have let that slide.

I wonder how he must have felt! maybe shamed and embarrassed enough to try to get revenge on the President after his election and undo what he did?

Totally Black. Trump knows his target audience well.

Ok, good what do I win? Just proves he was incompetent and should have been fired. Doesnt disprove that he and his leadership team were not working against Trump when they shouldnt have been. He just messed up and ruined the entire plan, cause he is a sanctimonious idiot.

Lets see Comey jailed for illegally influencing an election due to his misguided actions. no? Its not like you get set free if you shot someone else, not the person you were aiming at. mistakes have consequences.

Well done. You got there in the end.

So where are the pro Trump texts in the 556 page document? "F Trump!?" No thats not biased all ALL.

No one is denying a personal bias against Trump. Everyone is allowed opinions.

Where are the Russia collusion texts?

Again... The report and texts are about events prior to the election... Maybe we'll see texts about collusion once that investigation is over?

The entire upper leadership wanted Hillary to win

Wanting and actively working for are not the same thing. The report says there's plenty of evidence of the former, but no evidence of the later.

Uh oh....wasnt Russian collusion PRIOR to the election? oops (Well we all know it was made up AFTER the election loss, but there should be some texts about it PRIOR to the election, if that false narrative were true)

Again... The report and texts are about events prior to the election... Maybe we'll see texts about collusion once that investigation is over?

Uh oh....wasnt Russian collusion PRIOR to the election?

Yes... But once again, that's not the topic of this report. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Well we all know it was made up AFTER the election loss

No, we don't all know that. The numerous meetings between Trump campaign officials and Russia aren't made up and are worth looking into despite the Trump base's bizarre indifference to them.

there should be some texts about it PRIOR to the election, if that false narrative were true

Well, the IG noted that the FBI prioritized the Russia investigation over Weiner's laptop, right? (And you don't need political bias to think that potential interference by a foreign actor is more important to look into than a well-investigated email server case.)

But again... If you want to see more information on the Russia investigation, at least let it finish.

Comey is really stupid and idiot. He should know what he was doing.

But Im supposed to believe after reading hundreds of pages of anti Trump texts and thoughts that all the courtesies given to Hillary were just coincidences and every decision that went against Trump was just a judgement call that he didnt get the benefit of or was just a mistake? 

Sounds like you have a problem with the IG’s conclusion.

So, both Democrats and Republicans think the other side are crooks. Both sides think Comey helped the other.

My Republican friends have been telling me Clinton will go to jail for months (years) now, and Democrats thought Trump would have been in jail. Nobody’s opinion has changed.

Both sides ended up hating Comey, and I can see why. But the way Trump fired Comey was dumb.

So we know now that people used a private server when they shouldn’t have. That a President lied about when he knew of its existence. That when under investigation someone deleted over 30,000 mails and could just say “they were private”. We know FBI agents hated one candidate more than the other.

Nobody’s opinion has changed - and probably won’t.

Here’s an idea that will make everyone hate me.

How about we just forget both sides. Tell everyone to stop using private servers, don’t use work mail for your marital indescretions, don’t use private mail for official business, don’t talk privately with people when their spouse in under investigation etc etc.

This is all costing millions and taking up so much time. And it seems like when one side gets in, the other side starts trying to get them out from day one. In the end I hate to disappoint you all, but I don’t think HIllary, Comey, or Trump will be going to jail. Investigate anyone long enough and you’ll find something - but, I prediction neither HIllary or Trump will be in jail. And Trump will still be President, for the rest of his term.

There are a lot of pressing problems out there, and neither side is going to be happy with the results of any of these investigations.

But the whole point of this report is that the FBI messed up by creating the appearance of that, not that they're actually doing it. The report actually says there's no evidence of them acting on bias regarding investigations.

The bottom line is that they weren't doing their job whether the blame falls on Clinton attorneys, prosecutors, the Justice Department or an anti-Trump bias.

The report says, “Comey, Baker, and other FBI witnesses told us that they believed the prosecutors were overly cautious about obtaining the laptops because they were intimidated by high-powered defense counsel like [Beth] Wilkinson.”

The report also describes other FBI witnesses who made the same claim — including Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, whose text messages in the report revealed their political bias against Donald Trump becoming president.

“Some FBI witnesses told us, consistent with text message exchanges between [Peter] Strzok and [Lisa] Page, that the FBI was concerned that the line [Network Security Division] prosecutors were intimidated by the high-powered attorneys representing Clinton and her senior aides and, as a result, did not negotiate aggressively with them,” the report states.

The hypothetical might be reality.

You mean, liberal reality? Sounds more like a raging nightmare.

We don't know what the FBI knows,

But we do know now that they are so corrupt that they make Hoover look like a Saint.

and they may be acting exactly as they should be to stop a criminal.

After hearing the IG report, looks like they need to arrest themselves.

How have they trampled on the constitution?

Bribery, pay for play, lying under oath, using the color of authority to mislead, intervene and overturn an election., threatening staff at the DOJ to subpoena them, you know, the usual Washington dirty stuff.

Also, I don't know how many times I have to ask this, but how does the FBI's helping in getting Trump elected square with your conspiracy theory that they're trying to oust them?

Happened inadvertently, that’s why you had Strzok say to Page’s concern, under no circumstances will he be President. You had Brennan threatening the House GOP, you had Rosenstein threatening to subpoena staff if they keep asking him for files on Trump and what information he has and has been asked by the House intelligence angency to turn documents over. The man is two steps being charged with contempt for failing to cooperate with the house oversight intelligence agency and overturn them.

I haven't read the comments in this thread, but I just read through the story. It seems to me Comey was in a damned if you do, damned if you don't position. We are looking at it from a position of hindsight, but if you look at it from his perspective at the time, it was a super acrimonious compaign, and all the polls looked like Hillary was going to win. He had an investigation on her, and needed to balance which parts of that were public, and which should be kept quiet. He made a bad gamble that she would be the president, and decided it was better to announce the investigation into her emails right before the election, rather than face the grilling he would face from Republicans if she became president and then the investigation was found out about afterwards.

At the time, I actually said that I agreed with his decision to announce the investigation right before the election. I also thought she would probably win, and like Comey, figured he would face a grilling for not announcing the investigation before the election.

From the article, it looks to me that if anyone should be angry, it should be the Democrats. But that puts them into the uncomfortable position where they are on Comey's side a few months later due to investigating, then being fired by, Trump.

But what that all kind of says to me is that Comey wasn't acting with a political bias. I actually think he was acting with a non-partisan bias, trying to figure out how to deal with investigations into presidents and near-presidents, in a super acrimonious environment, with a media that micro-analyzes everything everywhere. That ended up hurting the Democrats in the election, but not because he wanted to hurt the Democrats, but rather because he had information that required an investigation into Hillary. Then he had an investigation into Trump based on information that had come to light, so he investigated it, which ended up leading Trump to fire him. That investigation wasn't because he wanted to hurt the Republicans, it's because he had information that required an investigation into Trump.

I'm sure both sides are trying to spin this report to their own ends, but to me it looks like Comey did the best he could in difficult situations, and did quite well about it.

When kings clash, peasants die.

Well all I can say is that today in the USA should be an interesting day. It’s Friday which seems that be the day all the important stuff happens.

People are misunderstanding that this is the end or that this is all that happened. This is just the public, redacted version. There is a classified unredacted version as well which prosecutors can use. Plus there will be an oral presentation of this on the 18th with questions so that we can understand how biased people don’t make biased decisions, for example.

People are misunderstanding that this is the end or that this is all that happened. 

No, it is you who is misunderstanding. Just like you claimed it wasn't looking good for the Manafort case, just like you claimed the IG report would blow the lid off the deep state conspiracy, this too will blow over, and Donny will still be the same crook he always has been.

In October 2016, less than two weeks before Election Day, Comey sent members of Congress a letter disclosing that a probe into Clinton's emails was being reopened after new emails were found.

Trump camp delighted at that.

Two days before the Nov 8 election, Comey said the FBI found no additional evidence in the new emails,

Trump camp not so delighted at that.

but Clinton contends the letter contributed to her defeat by Trump.

Trump camp delighted at that.

And today's news, which is the correct response? Winning or losing?

Winning. Because Trump is president and will be for 6.5 more years.

Plus, you don’t have to be found as “biased” by the IG to still be prosecuted by the DOJ prosecutors for a crime. That was 550 pages full of things you shouldn’t say and do “at work.”

on the 18th with questions so that we can understand how biased people don’t make biased decisions, for example.

Well, it’s pretty easy. I’m sure everyone at the FBI has a political leaning or political positions. Some are Democrats, some are Republicans. Believe it or not, they can still be professionals just like the rest of us.

Unless you think they only hire people with completely neutral political views and somehow these guys fell through the vetting process or something? I really don’t know what you expect and I suspect you don’t either.

The fact is you heard a political opinion and you assumed it meant they would hide evidence, or plant fake evidence, or coach witnesses, or whatever it is you were imagining. You eagerly awaited the IG’s report, even telling me to “wait for it” because it was a bombshell that would confirm all of your suspicions.

In the end it proved you were wrong. None of those things happened. The IG clearly said there was no evidence of bias in their decision-making process.

I understand that that’s not good enough for you. There must be something else there. You hoped and waited for so long and now you’re demanding your version be true despite the evidence all because of your disappointment. Are you hoping the redacted information will prove the IG wrong? Good luck. You’re just going to frustrate yourself.

Strangerland: It seems to me Comey was in a damned if you do, damned if you don't position.

Yep. And imagine if we were reading a report saying Comey reopened the investigation and kept it a secret. Imagine What Trump fans would be saying right now. They would be using it as “evidence” that he was helping Clinton and didn’t want to hurt her before an election.

Instead they are forced to justify his firing by saying he helped Trump instead of Clinton with his announcement, and they won’t stand for that!! Heh.

Okay how to I delete that last comment.

hopefully this is fake news, but it’s reported that Comey stated that he didn’t know Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin were married .....

So, is he a bigger liar than Hillary who deleted 30’000 emails and said she was under sniper fire and had to run ?

or is Comey and the FBI the most incompetent, ignorant , uninformed “intelligible” organization in the world?

really? Did the name Carlos Danger throw him off the scent?

I guess their surnames were different...

will the trump-hating late night show comedians play with this or not?

They were glad glad to have him on when his book came out.

Comey....

I’m fine with the IG report. The actual facts will lead to justice in the end. I wasn’t proven wrong, it was hundreds of pages of bias and wrongdoing just as I thought.

it was hundreds of pages of bias and wrongdoing just as I thought.

Wow, you've already read hundreds of pages of it? Impressive.

Slightly difficult to believe, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

THe libs are out in force (as usual) on this thread defending their poor excuse for an FBI director (Comey) and their formerly golden gal HRC. Good luck with that!

Trump the Nobel laureate will serve to full terms.

Great. So you agree with his conclusion that bias didn't play a part in the investigation.

Yes I do. But lack of bias doesn’t mean lack of criminal activity. And yes I read the whole report by now.

 But lack of bias doesn’t mean lack of criminal activity.

So after reading the entire 500+ report, Mr. Prosecutor, where is the criminal activity?

Go right ahead Charlie, punt that football. "Lucy" means it this time. ;)

So 13 obama people used non government email to speak to each other. What were they talking about？

yes I read the whole report by now.

That's a weird turn of phrase you've chosen there.

So 13 obama people used non government email to speak to each other. What were they talking about？

Who knows. Maybe Trump will call out to the Russians at his next rally in Minnesota and miraculously it will appear.

Hey, what's up with Mikey P's private email usage? Friendly note: If I were you, I wouldn't bark up that tree. Source: half a dozen Benghazi investigations lead by the GOP's most idiotic members.

Well, it’s pretty easy. I’m sure everyone at the FBI has a political leaning or political positions.

There’s a difference between having political leanings and to overtly plan on taking out a duly elected President.

Some are Democrats, some are Republicans. Believe it or not, they can still be professionals just like the rest of us.

Yeah, they should, but when you read things like....

From the IQ report..

“I find anyone who enjoys [this job] an absolute f---ing idiot. If you don’t think so, ask them one more question. Who are you voting for? I guarantee you it will be Donald Drumpf,” Agent 1 sent.

“I forgot about drumpf…that’s so sad and pathetic if they want to vote for him,” Agent 5 responded. “Someone who can’t answer a question. Someone who can’t be professional for even a second.”

In September, Agent 1 and 5 conversed again, bashing Trump supporters as “retarded.”

“I’m trying to think of a ‘would I rather’ instead of spending time with those people,” Agent 5 sent.

Agent 1 asked, “stick your tongue in a fan??”

Agent 5 later wrote: “I would rather have brunch with trump and a bunch of his supporters like the ones from ohio that are retarded.”

Unless you think they only hire people with completely neutral political views and somehow these guys fell through the vetting process or something? I really don’t know what you expect and I suspect you don’t either.

Uhhhh....not plotting to undermine the people and thinking they have the right to unseat a duly elected President in the process and by the way, if Obama had been President and FBI agents did the exact same thing, the Democrats would move the Earth off its axis to break every law....(well, they’re already doing that, but....) to make sure every single agent was fired, hung, drawn and quartered.

The fact is you heard a political opinion and you assumed it meant they would hide evidence, or plant fake evidence, or coach witnesses, or whatever it is you were imagining.

No, I didn’t imagine anything, unlike liberals, I see the world not as how i want it to be, but as it is.

You eagerly awaited the IG’s report, even telling me to “wait for it” because it was a bombshell that would confirm all of your suspicions. 

Actually, I’m really happy to hear these hateful messages because it invalidates the witch hunt investigation because now Giuliani has more than enough amo to back him up should Mueller try and force a subpoena on him, because if he can prove there is a resentment and a hateful bias in their attempt to.....lol...find the truth! Trump should easily win, hands down.

In the end it proved you were wrong. None of those things happened. The IG clearly said there was no evidence of bias in their decision-making process.

In the Hillary case, but honestly, I don’t care about Hillary, she’s not President, I just think the woman is funny, whiny, complaining, Hey, suck it up. You lost and now move on.

I understand that that’s not good enough for you. There must be something else there. You hoped and waited for so long and now you’re demanding your version be true despite the evidence all because of your disappointment. Are you hoping the redacted information will prove the IG wrong? Good luck. You’re just going to frustrate yourself.

No, I really got what I wanted and that’s aa huge gift. 2nd term on its way.

In the Hillary case, but honestly, I don’t care about Hillary, she’s not President, I just think the woman is funny, whiny, complaining, Hey, suck it up. You lost and now move on.

And yet you wrote a whole paragraph about her. :D

Funny, whiny, complaining, sounds like a Trumpy :D

And yet you wrote a whole paragraph about her. :D

Yes, to make a point.

Funny, whiny, complaining, sounds like a Trumpy :D

No, elated because she’s not President. :D

Fact: Hillary Clinton violated the Espionage Act. But she has not yet been indicted.

The Clintons and the Deep State are powerful indeed.

So 13 obama people used non government email to speak to each other. What were they talking about？

Why not speculate, then use the speculation to launch another investigation. 

It could be a bombshell. You know, explosive.

Bass: Actually, I’m really happy to hear these hateful messages because it invalidates the witch hunt investigation

So you don't believe the IG's conclusion? Maybe he is corrupt? You know, Deep State.

Why not speculate, then use the speculation to launch another investigation. 

There was.

It could be a bombshell. You know, explosive.

Actually, it was, but as usual, the liberals really don’t understand about incrimination.

Strange coming from a guy who only a month or two ago was throwing insults at Kim Jong UN, his father and grandfather and even opposed Trump meeting him unless first he gave up all his nukes.

Yes, but I’m not smart enough to be President, so I couldn’t do what Trump did or anyone else for that matter.

How far you have fallen from grace now supporting the brutal dictator who has murdered many including his step brother.

Sorry, that would be the left cheering this guy on, especially the way they’re moaning and groaning about Trump. All these people need to shut up because none of them had a better solution on how to dangle a carrot in front of Kim’s face, but since they all jump on the President, they would rather smuse around with the Cubans or Iranians.

Shameful that American president should be praising Kim Jong Un who not so long ago called him little rocket man.

Are you wholeheartedly saying you didn't know that it was all a game. I think it was kinda smart of Trump to play Kim's game, and I think they both had a lot of fun with it. Some of us knew there would never be war/nuke attack, and I think they did to. And the result? Hands shaking and smiles. It worked like a charm. Replacing a little banter with cold suits and ties and paper shuffling. Normally the summit comes at the end of negotiations, not the start.

THAT'S why Trump is ten times better than many of the last Presidents. Throw the book out!

FYI, Trump would not have one but for this assist from Comey.

And that, perhaps, more than anything is why Trump hated Comey.

Not joking here....

Fox is already pimping the next investigation into an investigation, this time with Trump and Russia.

Front Page: FBI braces as IG 2.0 looms, next report will examine Trump-Russia probe.

“The country is still digesting Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s scathing report on the FBI and the DOJ’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation, but more bombshells could be looming from the same team of investigators.”

And the right wingers will fall for it again.

Comrade Manafort had his collar felt today.

I hope he likes prison food.

So you don't believe the IG's conclusion? Maybe he is corrupt?

I do think as far as Clinton is concerned, but she’s not and never will be, so it’s all good.

You know, Deep State.

Exactly

Shameful that American president should be praising Kim Jong Un who not so long ago called him little rocket man.

Yes, so Crazy as Kim is, so volatile and so unpredictable, he should according to Democrats and their whacky liberal lunar logic call Kim out, so confused ts pople are, he talks smack, the left scream, he shouldn’t provoke him, he’s stupid fo calling him out, we will get into a WWIII conflict, Now Trump has him by the cahones he uses car salesman style pitch of kid buttery talk just to sell a deal and now the left are still complaining, he was too kind, overly flattering and praising him too much.

The left as usually so confused, tough talking is bad, Trump did the right thing and none of these idiot Democrats could have done better, in fact, they would have made the situation worse.

Fox is already pimping the next investigation into an investigation, this time with Trump and Russia.

Front Page: FBI braces as IG 2.0 looms, next report will examine Trump-Russia probe.

Oh, the left, bless their ignorant hearts, FNC is right to keep the pressure on, because with all the corruption of Hillary and her getting a slap on the wrist and to a former soldier who is suing her for the exact same thing Hillary is did and to have a judge rack Mueller and calling his witch hunt for what it is and now having unveiled the truth about the FBI and what they have been doing, cheating the system and seeing that the system treats one partisan group one way and the other an entirely different way.

*“The country is still digesting Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s scathing report on the FBI and the DOJ’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation, but more bombshells could be looming from the same team of investigators.”*

And the right wingers will fall for it again.

Not really, now that the people can see and call out what this witch hunt really is, not only are they ginning up the conservative vote and faster than anyone thought and with the Presidents popularity slowing rising and conservatives polling closer to Democrats is kinda scary. Dems should have this locked up and NOT be so close to the Republicans, not good, not good at all and add to that this IQ report was a goldmine for Trump and gives him the much needed boost and confidence he needs to know bring his case to the Supreme Court should Mueller get in his head to subpoena Trump, the end of the Mueller is slowly coming to an end. All the right need to do is pound the story, get more texts from these corrupted leaders at the department they're helping the GOP and don't realize it. Good job, Mueller and Rosensten. LOL

https://www.myajc.com/news/poll-democrats-advantage-midterm-election-support-shrinking/1HI48mSGK4sgw8uaxtQQdI/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trumps-improved-standing-energized-gop-voters-worry-democrats/2018/05/13/70d04af8-5479-11e8-abd8-265bd07a9859_story.html?utm_term=.4bb161dbb22f

With holes and doubts like these, Trump has way more ammunition now to prove that this witch hunt is totally invalid. Meuller, take your best shot now. ROFL sorry but if Mueller has conclusive evidence of Trump collusion, then no amount of conspiracy theories , counter narratives or whataboutism will save Trump. Well just have to wait until Mueller has finished his investigation.

Fact: Hillary Clinton violated the Espionage Act. But she has not yet been indicted.The Clintons and the Deep State are powerful indeed. man so many fools fall for this whataboutism as a type of proof that Trump is innocent. If Mueller has evidence then Trump is guilty , Hillary's guilt, wont suddenly wash away Trumps crimes, this only happens in the fantasy land of conspiracies. LOL

The IG wrote in his report:

“these text messages also caused us to assess [Mr.] Strzok’s decision on October 16 to prioritize the Russia investigation over following up [on the Hillary Clinton inquiry] the investigative lead discovered on the [Anthony] Weiner laptop. We concluded that we did not have confidence that this decision by Strzok was free from bias.”

You bet the FBI was biased. The swamp is indeed a swamp of lies and deceit. They are working overtime to protect their own.

sorry but if Mueller has conclusive evidence of Trump collusion, then no amount of conspiracy theories , counter narratives or whataboutism will save Trump.

Actually, that’s not true, because his lawyers can now prove in a court of law that the entire investigation was predicated not on the Russia mythology, but on the anger and hatred of a few law officials that harbored extreme bias towards the President and felt they had the right to dispose and undermine a sitting President and these mails and report and one judges statement proves that. That would undercut Mueller’s investigation as being unbiased.

Well just have to wait until Mueller has finished his investigation.*

He can investigate all he wants and take his time. Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Strzok, Page all left a goldmine of ammunition that will help Trump and his lawyers wrap this up.

The top echelon in the FBI were all corrupt and a greedy under Comey. Comey had to re-open the investigation on Clinton cause he would have been prosecuted for lying to Congress. The Clinton's have operated through their networks for 40 years insulating themselves. The Clinton campaign had Bernie Sanders knocked out of the election and then they went after Trump. The IG report was an eye opening and good honest investigation in how things work in Washington.

They failed.

This made the most sense to me.

REP. TREY GOWDY (R-SC), CHAIRMAN, HOUSE OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM COMMITTEE: Just what a dark day it is for the FBI and the DOJ, two institutions of our country desperately needs and we desperately have to be able to have confidence in them. And this level of bias and animus, not only did they want to stop the Trump campaign, he wanted to stop the Trump presidency. This is an FBI -- 

BAIER: You’re talking about Peter Strzok.

GOWDY: Peter Strzok, the FBI agent who was on Hillary Clinton's investigation and arguably the lead Russia investigator not only wanted to stop his campaign, but once he wanted, got on the Mueller probe because he wanted to impeach him. That is a level of animus and bias that everyone should reject. 

Politics do not belong in the DOJ, FBI. ATF, CIA. ICE, Secret service. DEA, FBS, USCP, None of it. When you have agents and lawyers trying to derail a Presidential election. These are acts of treason in my view.

JT readers people are going to go to jail when this is all said and done with. Trump or Clinton will never see the inside of jail cell. Though Clinton deserves to be jailed but not over this or the server and the mails. Obama and thirteen others even used a public email account under a an alias to the (clintonemail.com) account. Remeber Obama said. He was unaware of Clinton's private server. But he is emailing her. The email thing debate for another time.

She needs to be prosecuted for Benghazi. That is her biggest crime. I understand she acid washed hard drives and destroyed devises. But this IG report is very interesting read. A real bombshell.

This has nothing to due to with which side of isle you are on. We simply can not have politics in high levels of Federal law enforcement. The two do not mix well.

zichi: "shameful that American president should be praising Kim Jong Un who not so long ago called him little rocket man."

What exactly would you have Trump do, zichi?

And guaranteed, if Obama or Hillary had done what Trump did at this summit all the anti-Trumpers would be praising them, lol

Well, zichi, look at the results. Assuming NK doesn't get a brain fart and stops cooperating, the Korean peninsula will be de-nuked and the war formally ended.

Of COURSE No; there's no bias.

This article is clearly written based on the summary. If you read the whole thing, there is a lot more that they didn't want in the summary.

Dave P

but it is definitely Trump hate to the maximum level. so youve got a habitual liar, denying everything even when hes shown to state many of his denials on record. Youve got a base that support him no matter how corrupt he is , even insinuating that hell pardon himself and his goons even if found guilty of crimes against America, basically immunizing themselves against the American legal system, all because they got some delusional vision that the deep state conspiracy is out to get Trump with only whataboutism & counter-narrative to support their claims. Basically its the delusion of a dictatorship not a modern democracy, whats not to hate!?

THAT'S why Trump is ten times better than many of the last Presidents. Throw the book out!

No No hes 1000 times Yuuuuge than any other president, yeah throw out that book yes! hold on they already have , Its called "Trump University Guide Book"

That would undercut Mueller’s investigation as being unbiased. and that what counternarrative is all about, proving one thing is corrupt in Muellers investigation (eg the two FBI agents having an affair who were sacked nearly a year ago) makes the whole of the FBI organisation corrupt. It was done effectively well in OJ Simpsons trial, basically a murder went free. It the same counteractive and whataboutism that Hannity and friend continue to sprout hoping to change public opinion before Mueller investigation ends giving Trump the excuse to sack him before he releases his findings. Trump may as well pardon himself and everybody else around him now and bypass the legal system altogether, because you know the whole system is corrupt which means Trump must be innocent!? Even an elementary school kid can see that this logic is ridiculous.