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"This fine nominee to the Supreme Court will receive a vote in this Senate in the near future," McConnell said on the Senate floor.

This is why she wants an official investigation. Republicans will vote to confirm Kavanaugh no matter what she says. They don't care if the accusations are true or not.

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By the time this farce is over and Kavanaugh is on the bench, he’s going to be so mad at the Democrats that his judicial opinions will be extremely conservative. Same thing happened with Clarence Thomas, his confirmation ordeal made him more conservative.

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"While I am frightened, please know, my fear will not hold me back from testifying and you will be provided answers to all of your questions," Ford wrote.

We will finally hear Ford's final version on Thursday. Maybe.

Republicans, with a 51-49 Senate majority, can confirm Kavanaugh if they stay united. So far, no Republican senators have said they would vote against him.

....."No innuendo has been too low, no insinuation too dirty," Hatch said, adding that the committee should proceed with its Thursday hearing and "then we should vote."

In other words, elected Democrats are still unable to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation. And it appears that elected Democrats will never be able to convince elected Republicans to change their position. Especially with their constant namecalling, and trumped up charges.

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cla68Today  06:32 am JST

By the time this farce is over and Kavanaugh is on the bench, he’s going to be so mad at the Democrats that his judicial opinions will be extremely conservative.

Any judge so petty and emotional as to rule on their own personal biases rather than what is written in the law is unfit to be on any court and their nomination must be withdrawn immediately.

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By the time this farce is over and Kavanaugh is on the bench, he’s going to be so mad at the Democrats that his judicial opinions will be extremely conservative.

If that's true, it show's he's both not appropriate to be a judge, nor GROP... I mean SCOTUS.

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katsu78 - Why do they think it is necessary to rush this confirmation? Why not slow down and take the time to investigate it properly?

The question has been answered. Ford's story has not been consistent over time. Ford's psychiatrist's notes do not agree with Ford's current story. Democrats claim that the psychiatrist miss-remembers what Ford had said way back when. Unfortunately for the Democrats, and Ford, psychiatrist take notes during their sessions with patients. Ford can only rely on her own faulty, politically-biased, memory.

It's well known that Democrats, including Ford, have made it clear that they will not, will never, support any Republicans nominee. There is absolutely no point in waiting for elected Democrats to check out the facts. Their decision was made many months ago.

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Any judge so petty and emotional as to rule on their own personal biases rather than what is written in the law is unfit to be on any court and their nomination must be withdrawn immediately.

Even the New York Times can't corroborate either of these women.

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Ford's story has not been consistent over time.

You could pick pretty much any story of mine from 30+ years ago, and I would imagine the details have changed to some degree over the years.

That doesn't mean I don't clearly remember the incident, and that it happened, just that I'm not able to remember all details of an event, exact and consistent, for 30+ years. It's this curse you see, that I'm human with a human brain.

You guys who set the bar of 'believable' as 'remembering every exact detail consistently for 30+ years' have no interest in finding out what happened, you're just trying to find reasons to discredit what she's saying. No one ever has remembered the exact details of anything consistently for 30+ years. Ever. You've set an impossible bar, so that you can then discredit everyone. Hyper-partisanship at its worst.

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Kavanaugh has no reason to withdraw, that would be the stupidest thing. Especially now with this second allegation and the accuser represented by Avenatti, that should give off Defcon 9 sirens that this is a scam.

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Of course Kavanaugh has to sound tough but let's hear what she has to say on Thursday and then decide. She doesn't seem to have anything to gain by making up a story about Kavanaugh. Chances are she is smart enough to have some kind of proof that nobody but she (and maybe a therapist) knows about.

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Kavanaugh has no reason to withdraw

That's correct. The American people for whom he will be deciding law have full confidence in him right?

...right?

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Kavanaugh has no reason to withdraw, that would be the stupidest thing. Especially now with this second allegation and the accuser represented by Avenatti, that should give off Defcon 9 sirens that this is a scam.

Funny that Dumpster Fire Donny hasn't attacked Daniels via twitter. That definitely demonstrates Avenatti is incompetent.

Before you go on a rant about bankruptcies and/or screwing business partners, remember your boy Trump is the master of both.

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This:

Even the New York Times can't corroborate either of these women.

is a completely irrelevant response to this:

Any judge so petty and emotional as to rule on their own personal biases rather than what is written in the law is unfit to be on any court and their nomination must be withdrawn immediately.

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Ford can only rely on her own faulty, politically-biased, memory.

Exactly like Kavanaugh.

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Of course Kavanaugh has to sound tough but let's hear what she has to say on Thursday and then decide. She doesn't seem to have anything to gain by making up a story about Kavanaugh. Chances are she is smart enough to have some kind of proof that nobody but she (and maybe a therapist) knows about.

Proof? Like what, some old DNA samples? Look, I want this woman to testify because both of them will be under oath, Kavanaugh knows what that means and the consequences of perjury, Ford on the other hand, I'm not too sure, but let's see what she has to say.

That's correct. The American people for whom he will be deciding law have full confidence in him right?

...right?

Depends, if you are fair-minded you will keep an open-mind and if not,  you will be more objective, but hearing the creepy porn lawyer involved in this is tells me that this is looking more and more like a scam.

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Anita Hill spoke, they heard what she said, then they confirmed Thomas. Repubs could have done the same thing here.

But the GOP in 2028 has too many toxic nut jobs who start talking about payoffs and secret plans and deep state and yadda yadda yadda which leads them to idiotic positions.

Lets hope it continues so we can win more votes in the midterms.

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Depends, if you are fair-minded you will keep an open-mind

So you are open to the possibility that her claims may be true? You haven't already decided she's lying? Ever post you've made would indicate you've already decided.

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In any case, the usual squawking suspects here have posted reams of comments here, but not one of them has had the courage to step up and directly answer my question: Why do they think it is necessary to rush this confirmation? Why not slow down and take the time to investigate it properly?

I'd like an answer to these questions as well. That said, this thread will be closed before any conservative will give an acceptable answer.

It is likely that we'll get the intellectually dishonest answer that it's important to have the seat filled before SCOTUS starts its next term in October. This answer, of course, fails given repubs weren't concerned about filling Scalia's seat for almost a year during Obama's administration.

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This:

but hearing the creepy porn lawyer involved in this is tells me that this is looking more and more like a scam.

demonstrates a lack of this:

Depends, if you are fair-minded you will keep an open-mind and if not, you will be more objective, but hearing the creepy porn lawyer involved in this is tells me that this is looking more and more like a scam.

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Especially now with this second allegation and the accuser represented by Avenatti, that should give off Defcon 9 sirens that this is a scam.

Allow me to teach you something. The way the DEFCON system works means that DEFCON 1 is the highest, most severe alert. The lowest level, DEFCON 5, indicates peace and safety. So DEFCON 9 would mean the situation is incredibly safe and secure, and that this is not a scam. I agree with you, therefore, but not for the reasons you wanted.

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Kavanaugh has no reason to withdraw, that would be the stupidest thing. Especially now with this second allegation

Does he become more innocent the more accusers there are?

Well I suppose Clinton always denied everything despite, but he was barely able to keep his pants up.

I guess it doesn't matter what political persuasion you are.

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Anita Hill spoke, they heard what she said, then they confirmed Thomas. Repubs could have done the same thing here.

Yes and the same thing will happen with Ford, she will be heard and then Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

It is likely that we'll get the intellectually dishonest answer that it's important to have the seat filled before SCOTUS starts its next term in October.

Gee, who's the dishonest person beyond a reasonable doubt?

This answer, of course, fails given repubs weren't concerned about filling Scalia's seat for almost a year during Obama's administration.

You mean with a so called Semi-conservative to fill Scalia's seat? No, that's not what the Republicans wanted, they wanted a solid conservative on the bench and not a question mark on conservatism.

So you are open to the possibility that her claims may be true?

Slightly

You haven't already decided she's lying? Ever post you've made would indicate you've already decided.

probably as much as you believe Kavanaugh is telling the truth.

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"I will not be intimidated into withdrawing from this process,"

Preppy boys from privileged backgrounds like Kavanaugh (and Trump) are accustomed to being the bullies. When they're faced with situations they can't bully their way out, they end up calling daddy and his fellow powerful friends to rescue them.

In this case it's the Republican Party serving as daddy and friends.

The Republican Party's primary purpose for the last few decades has been to preserve and maintain the wealth and power of America's most privileged class.

Scary that someone like Kavanaugh could be considered fit for the Supreme Court when he's shown he has little if any regard for the majority of Americans, especially women, i.e. half the population.

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Proof? Like what, some old DNA samples? Look, I want this woman to testify because both of them will be under oath, Kavanaugh knows what that means and the consequences of perjury, Ford on the other hand, I'm not too sure, but let's see what she has to say.

Trump supporters, just like The Great Orange Groper, just can't seem to help themselves when it comes to insulting women.  "Dr Ford, you have a Ph.D, but you're not smart enough to understand what perjury is...."

Depends, if you are fair-minded you will keep an open-mind and if not, you will be more objective, but hearing the creepy porn lawyer involved in this is tells me that this is looking more and more like a scam.

I think what you meant to say was "her attorney who is the same one representing Story Daniels who the President had an affair with when his son was just four months old, lied about having it, then lied about paying her off."  Ask Melania who the creepy one is....

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"Judge Kavanaugh is an outstanding person. I am with him all the way," Trump said

Sure you are. One confirmed sexual predator sticking up for another possible.

Remember Trump's ex-wife Ivana and what she accused him of doing to her?

This is your government, America.

Violent, entitled men who treat women with contempt.

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There’s a reason why Trump fans say he’s honest when he says he didn’t sleep with Stormy Daniels. They discredit any accusation from any woman.

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Here are three legitimate questions Kavanaugh should be asked to answer under oath:

In your high school yearbook from your senior year, you ask your classmate and friend Mark Judge whether he has "boofed" yet. Can you explain to the Senate what that term refers to?

You also make reference to kegs and the "FFFFFFFourth of July". I understand at the time you were in high school, alcohol was prohibited for minors under law and for students at Georgetown Prep under school rules. Did you at any time abuse alcohol at Georgetown Prep?

In his book, your friend Mark Judge refers to a certain "Bart O'Kavanaugh" as someone who couldn't control his liquor. In his senior yearbook, Judge asks "Bart" whether he has "boofed" yet. Do you have any recollection of a Bart O'Kavanaugh?
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I'll be interested to hear what Ford has to say. The latest accuser was reported by NBC to have been drunk as well. She says the incident happened in 1983 or 1984. There is nobody who will collaborate her story. Others say Kavanaugh wasn't there. At some point you have to really wonder what is going on.

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If she’s not credible then we will see it in her answers.

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@plastic. You da man!

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I think it’s cool and not at all idiotic or hypocritical that rightwing nuts who for over a year been screaming that Trump should refuse to testify in the Mueller investigation under oath because the very act of testifying would be a “perjury trap” are now demanding that someone they think is lying must be forced to perjury herself.*

*I don’t think she would perjury herself, as I don’t think she’s lying.

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Kavanaugh denied even knowing Ford, who was a couple years younger. “We did not travel in the same social circles,” he told McCallum. *“I was never at any such party.**”*

He’s a judge. Maybe important one. There were witnesses. Are witnesses not important for judges?

just another point...she was a couple of years younger. So that may mean he sexually assaulted a drunk minor.

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Still not convinced that any of this disqualifies him from being a supreme court judge.

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How happy is Judge Kavanaugh to have an admitted sexual predator showering praise on him this morning? LOL

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@Plastic

I think it would be legitimate to ask Dr. Ford some questions as well.

Like why did she go drinking with four older boys in the first place? And in light of the fact that she can't remember when it happened, of where, or how she got there, or how she got home; I think it would be fair to ask if she was drinking at the time of the alleged assault.

Alcohol has a way of playing tricks with people's memory and if she was drinking at that party it could be a significant factor in what she remembers and how she remembers it.

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Sadly the GOP seems to have learned a really horrible lesson from recent political events.

Donald Trump wins in 2016 = sexual abusers are OK

Roy Moore loses in 2018 = sexual abusers are OK, but pedophiles are a bit too much.

So Brett Kavanagh being a sexual predator doesn't really register as an issue with them since they've already got one as their leader and since Kavanagh was himself a teenager when these alleged attacks occurred he doesn't really fall into pedophile territory like Moore did even though his victims were teenagers too.

its a really sick situation.

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Christine Blasey Ford + Deborah Ramirez + Mystery Woman #3 = PATTERN

The FBI has to be brought in to investigate, something which Kavanaugh apparently doesn't want to see happen. Why the hell not?!

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There is no victim. There is an accuser who has yet to present any evidence that she was a victim of anything except perhaps her own foggy memory. When evidence does surface, we can re-evaluate.

Remember this was the 80s. I was also a teen at that time, and the world was not like today. More freewheeling, less restrictions, very hedonistic. Also remember that while Kavanaugh went to an elite prep school, so did Ford. They both enjoyed the same privileged upbringing and displayed the same entitled bratty behavior. Whether or not that led to anything else is still to be determined.

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Attlilathehungry,

Great question, except there are no victims. There are accusers who have yet to present any evidence that they were victims of anything except perhaps their foggy memories.

The fact that we're talking about victims, 2 or 3 and maybe more, and not victim is important to note here.

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Singular or plural, it doesn't matter until there is compelling evidence to raise them to the status of victim. At the moment, it's just he said/she said. That, and hazy memories of bad behavior as teenagers. Hardly enough to ruin a person's career and reputation over.

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stormcrow - The FBI has to be brought in to investigate

The FBI doesn't investigate state crimes.

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James Roache (9/24), Kavanaugh's freshman year roommate states the following:

" . . . although Brett was normally reserved, he was a notably heavy drinker . . . he became aggressive and belligerent when he was very drunk . . . Based on my time with Debbie . . . I cannot imagine her making this up. Based on my time with Brett, I believe that he and his social circle were capable of the actions that Debbie described."

It's time to bring in the FBI to get to the bottom of this.

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There is no victim. There are accusers who have yet to present any evidence that they were victims of anything except perhaps their foggy memories.

What an obnoxious comment.

People don't go from being "accusers" to "victims" by some magical process. You either are a victim or you are not. Its a question of fact and nobody can definitively say that Ford wasn't a victim. You can certainly say she "may not have been a victim" depending on the evidence, but there is no evidence that she is making this up which would justify dismissing her allegations out of hand.

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There is an accuser who has yet to present any evidence that she was a victim of anything except perhaps her own foggy memory. When evidence does surface, we can re-evaluate.

Demanding proof while simultaneously refusing an investigation.

Cute.

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Trump supporters, just like The Great Orange Groper, just can't seem to help themselves when it comes to insulting women. "Dr Ford, you have a Ph.D, but you're not smart enough to understand what perjury is...."

It seems like most liberals don’t either. Due process and evidence means nothing to them.

Sure you are. One confirmed sexual predator sticking up for another possible.

If you say Kavanaugh is a predator then we can say Ford is a liar.

Remember Trump's ex-wife Ivana and what she accused him of doing to her?

So that makes him guilty. I mean, women are always innocent for the simple fact they’re women.

This is your government, America.

Sadly.

Violent, entitled men who treat women with contempt

And crazy opportunist women that will make frivolous claims for personal or political gains.

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Like why did she go drinking with four older boys in the first place? And in light of the fact that she can't remember when it happened, of where, or how she got there, or how she got home; I think it would be fair to ask if she was drinking at the time of the alleged assault.

Ah, there it is. The old victim-blaming approach; she knew what she was getting into/she was drunk etc. Next up we'll have someone dismissing her as crazy or out to make a profit.

And crazy opportunist women that will make frivolous claims for personal or political gains.

And there you have it, folks.

Never mind having to endure the assault - the legacy of which can last a lifetime - now she has to endure clueless misogyny, character assassinations, death threats.

It's sad to see apologists for sexual assault. Sad but not surprising. But sure, keep asking why victims don't come forward sooner.

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calling for his role in the post-9/11 torture program to be highlighted.

This is a platform for different people, different peoples views.

but reality, I wasn’t there, but it seems he triried to rape at least two drunk young/women, and now torture? What kind of judge?

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It seems like most liberals don’t either. Due process and evidence means nothing to them.

Stop making me laugh, this coming from the same person who was chanting "lock her up" without an indictment, trial or conviction.....It's spelled H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y...

And crazy opportunist women that will make frivolous claims for personal or political gains.

Female readers, more evidence of how Trump and his supporters view you...remember this when you're in the voting booth...

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It seems like most liberals don’t either. Due process and evidence means nothing to them.

He is getting due process, way more due process than anyone else responding to credible sexual assault allegations in what is effectively a job interview would normally receive. How is the process he is being subjected to in anyway unfair to him, the whole procedure is being determined by members of the committee who want nothing more than for this whole allegation to go away?

If you say Kavanaugh is a predator then we can say Ford is a liar.

Its not particularly helpful to define a factual question solely on unrelated partisan political calculations. Of course I understand that everyone on both sides is doing that anyway, but there is a factual truth in which either Kavanagh is a sex offender or Ford is a liar, and that is to be determined basically based on who has the stronger evidence (this isn't a criminal trial, so we are basically dealing with a balance of probabilities standard of proof here).

Personally I think it is more likely that she is telling the truth than he is. My own biases might be partly to blame for leading me to that conclusion, but at the same time I have a very hard time objectively buying the argument that she is just making this up out of thin air for some political ends and all the other explanations for why her story is wrong just don't add up to me either. I'll wait until hearing their testimony to make a final judgment, but the steady stream of subsequent allegations coming out now are not making me doubt my judgment so far on this.

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Ah, there it is. The old victim-blaming approach; she knew what she was getting into/she was drunk etc. Next up we'll have someone dismissing her as crazy or out to make a profit.

Not saying that, but you can twist it around and say, the middle-aged White man that can't keep his hands to himself, that is a pedophile and a conservative, so the crime by default is, being White and being a man.

And there you have it, folks.

Exactly!

Never mind having to endure the assault

Never mind due process, innocent until proven guilty.

- the legacy of which can last a lifetime -

Oh, I wish the Democrats would heed those words.

now she has to endure clueless misogyny, character assassinations, death threats.

And the same goes for Kavanaugh and his entire family.

It's sad to see apologists for sexual assault.

Alleged as in this case.

Sad but not surprising. But sure, keep asking why victims don't come forward sooner.

It's also sad that innocent people get pulled into alleged phony allegations based on speculation or vindictive verbal, mental or physical assaults on any person especially a woman that is seeking revenge on a man.

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How about we split the difference and call Ford the alleged victim and Kavanaugh the alleged offender? Shouldn't be too long until all the actual evidence is in.

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Remember this was the 80s. I was also a teen at that time, and the world was not like today. More freewheeling, less restrictions, very hedonistic. Also remember that while Kavanaugh went to an elite prep school, so did Ford. They both enjoyed the same privileged upbringing and displayed the same entitled bratty behavior. Whether or not that led to anything else is still to be determined.

So you're basically saying that because it was the 1980s it was fine? This isn't some hedonistic Brat-Pack film starring Matthew Broderick where everyone's doing drugs and booze, and engaging in meaningless sex while still at high school... this is real life.

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Don't put words in my mouth TB. I said what I said, accurately described the situation at that time and place. Context is an important part of any accusation like Dr. Ford's. Not to mention I personally would be challenged to remember every party and activity I took part in when I was in my teens. Human memory is fragile and often inaccurate, and easily influenced. That is why corroborating evidence is so important when accusing a man of a crime committed when Reagan was president.

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Educator; again, interesting but irrelevant. Patti Davis' experiences and opinions do not constitute evidence. If any actual details and evidence surface that implicate Kavanaugh, I would say his nomination must be withdrawn (to say the least). Until that time, I will assume that he is not guilty. It's all just craven political machination.

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If any actual details and evidence surface that implicate Kavanaugh, I would say his nomination must be withdrawn (to say the least).

Er....you mean like an actual victim (possibly victims) coming forward and directly testifying under oath that this guy tried to rape me?

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How does Trump keep this production line of crooks, liars, idiots and sexual predators going? It's a remarkable talent to be able to sniff out such losers and then give them a job.

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If he is not confirmed, I hope Judge Kavanaugh sues these "women" for slander. If nothing else but to ruin them financially form the enormous legal fees. What's that saying "payback is a b*tch."

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If he is not confirmed, I hope Judge Kavanaugh sues these "women" for slander. If nothing else but to ruin them financially form the enormous legal fees. What's that saying "payback is a b*tch."

Truth is a full defence to any slander claim. If he doesn't get confirmed its probably because his accusers are found to be more credible than he is by an extremely sympathetic Republican led committee that wants to believe him. If he can't convince them, he won't succeed in a court of law either.

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Just like old paedo Republican Judge Roy Moore did, Vern?

Heh, I hear he dropped that lawsuit like a hot potato once he'd lost his election bid.

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RainyDay; yes, that would be a great start. Hasn't happened yet though. As of now, I think the only people to actually give sworn testimony are Kavanaugh and his three friends, all of whom don't remember the incident in question.

I'm waiting to hear the other side, not sure why it has taken so long. Testifying doesn't depend on an investigation or hearing. Just tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

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"Republicans will vote to confirm Kavanaugh no matter what she says."

Yeah, because, considering all the information we have on this case, they won't believe her unless Kavanaugh actually says she's right, which ain't gonna happen.

You gotta hand it to Kavanaugh, it takes balls to admit you were a virgin for quite a long time after high school. Wait a minute... so he was a virgin in high school... which means he must have been dying for some of that stuff that Trump grabbed so many, many times... so... he had the motive for this sexual assault on this poor woman... so he must be lying... or not! I think not, actually.

Full Interview | Judge Brett Kavanaugh and his wife Ashley speak out in their first television interview since Dr. Christine Blasey Ford levied accusations that derailed Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxEGNt5EwGo

Oh my...

RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel says the Democratic Party is using smear tactics to prevent Judge Brett Kavanaugh from being confirmed by the Senate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KdnbE2AfEY

"If he is not confirmed, I hope Judge Kavanaugh sues these "women" for slander."

He'll be confirmed and I hope he sues these women for slander, but being who he is, he'll probably just concentrate on his duties as a SCOTUS judge.

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Avenatti has his accuser ready for TV by Wednesday- how convenient. Says he doesn’t know what channel it will be.....yeah right! CNN likely or MSNBC if the accuser is particularly unbelievable.

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That’s the problem. The truth doesn’t make the chips fall where they have to in order to get the desired outcome.

Just tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

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"or MSNBC if the accuser is particularly unbelievable."

Guess it'll be MSNBC then.

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Boozey Ford will be a no-show on Thursday. Rameriz' version of the truth is so weak that even the failing NYT wouldn't publish her story. So, now the democrat clown show has to pin all of its hopes of derailing the nomination on The Creepy Porn Lawyer. Good luck with that.

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A problem when you display a pattern of dishonesty is that, when people suspect you're lying and you deny it, they don't believe you. He's dug his own grave.

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You guys voted for a man who bragged about grabbing women by the p**** and gave him high fives when he cheated on his wife.

But sure, we can trust your judgement here.

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arrestpaulToday  06:56 am JST

The question has been answered. 

It hasn't, though many of the people pretending to be conservative on here have likewise pretended to answer it because actually answering it is scary and threatening and they aren't ready to face the question.

The closest anyone has gotten to answering it is inventing reasons why Bart's accuser shouldn't be believed. Which doesn't actually answer the question. The question is not, "Whose side do you take?" The question is, "Why shouldn't we take our time to find out the facts completely before rushing to judgment?"

Nobody wants to answer that because they don't actually have an answer, they just have talking points and spin handed down from the Trump propaganda network.

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"A problem when you display a pattern of dishonesty is that, when people suspect you're lying and you deny it, they don't believe you. He's dug his own grave."

What pattern of dishonesty are you talking about, Laguna?

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I'll withhold my judgement until some facts are provided. What I know today:

groping at a teen party is alleged by 1 person.

2 other people supposed to be there don't remember it.

the alleged victim doesn't know which year it happened.

the alleged victim doesn't know where it happened.

no other attendees have been found.

the alleged victim didn't tell her best friend.

the alleged perp has a calendar showing limited available time for the events to have happened. BTW, I have calendars from the same years still, this isn't nearly as strange as people think. A life recorded ...

the alleged victim didn't tell anyone about the incident until 2001-2002 and her therapist has notes from 10 yrs later that are incorrect.

I know that my memory of things that long ago isn't even close to perfect. I can't remember everyone I "kissed" back then and will admit not remembering all their names or where the "kissing" happened now. If asked about those times, I'd have to say "I have no clear memory of that event." This is for events with absolutely zero drugs or alcohol consumed.

What we have here is she said and nobody else remembers anything at all. Rumors aren't enough to harm someone's career.

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theFuToday  09:40 pm JST

Rumors aren't enough to harm someone's career.

You know the candidate in questions is a privileged white man when not getting the top promotion possible in their field is equated with "harming their career".

What, do you think if he doesn't get the SCOTUS nod he just gets stuck under a bridge for the rest of his life? Assuming he hasn't committed perjury, or course. Which if he has, that's totally worth harming someone's career over.

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What pattern of dishonesty are you talking about, Laguna?

Gee, I guess there are a few patterns. I'm talking about all of them, collectively.

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I honestly kind of can’t wait to see what kind of total nonsense creepy porn lawyer tries to put on TV on Wednesday. That will be the final nail in the coffin of this.

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Oh no cause you won’t stop there. You will then try to use his lack of getting that job due to allegations as a way to use those same allegations to remove him from his current job too.

Cause your team is like that. You would love to make him and his family homeless if you couid as a “message” to anyone else who might accept a Trump appointment to anything.

What, do you think if he doesn't get the SCOTUS nod he just gets stuck under a bridge for the rest of his life? 

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Ah, yes. The creepy porn lawyer. The guy defending the porn star that Trump still denies sleeping with even though he paid her off.

Because why wouldn't he deny it, right? Just keep denying until it goes away.

Just like this case.

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Nobody cares what Trump did or didn’t do consensually back in 2006. 

But they do care about how he handled it later, in the autumn of 2016 - just as they care about Kavanagh's seemingly casual relationship with the truth. We'll see, but his quote on Fox, 'I did not have sexual intercourse or anything close to sexual intercourse in high school or for many years thereafter,' doesn't portray much truthfulness.

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You gotta hand it to Kavanaugh, it takes balls to admit you were a virgin for quite a long time after high school.

"Yes, I do think this is odd at a time when people were quite active sexually..."

People were more sexually active in the eighties than they are now?

"speaks to how out of touch he may be with women’s issues."

Dozens of women who have known him for years would disagree with that.

Have fun bashing Kavanaugh, everyone, he will be confirmed as a SCOTUS judge shortly.

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Black: This isn’t about Trump

This is about your credibility. If you're willing to support an obvious lie about past bad behavior from Trump, why should I trust you with Kavanaugh?

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Dems are so desperate to protect their lawmaking ability via the Supreme Court they are remorselessly willing to slander their fellow citizen without any due process or fair treatment. It’s sad really. They are so caught up in their hatred they are willing to destroy this man based on allegations from 36 years ago that cannot be proven barring a confession. Kavanaugh categorically denied it that it occurred. That doesn’t necessarily mean he is innocent but the only person Ford identified as a witness swore to the Judiciary Committee under penalty of perjury that he was not present at the alleged crime.

It may be true that Kavanaugh did all of the things he is accused of but allegation does not equal guilt. This is especially true under the suspicious circumstances under which the allegation surfaced only at the last minute after being known by Dems for months. This is a desperate delaying tactic in hopes that they will regain the Senate and thus prevent a new justice from being seated until after 2020 or 2024 when they hope to win the presidency again.

Dems have morphed the #MeToo movement into #McCarthyismTwo. They are seeking to establish guilt by association or mere accusation - a standard they would never accept if it were applied to themselves. This authoritarian tendency among Progressives is going to ever more extreme lengths. It’s as if America is going through its own Maoist Cultural Revolution with all of the inevitable misery and damage that were it’s result.

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Dems are so desperate to protect their lawmaking ability via the Supreme Court they are remorselessly willing to slander their fellow citizen without any due process or fair treatment. It’s sad really. They are so caught up in their hatred they are willing to destroy this man based on allegations from 36 years ago that cannot be proven barring a confession. Kavanaugh categorically denied it that it occurred. That doesn’t necessarily mean he is innocent but the only person Ford identified as a witness swore to the Judiciary Committee under penalty of perjury that he was not present at the alleged crime.

It may be true that Kavanaugh did all of the things he is accused of but allegation does not equal guilt. This is especially true under the suspicious circumstances under which the allegation surfaced only at the last minute after being known by Dems for months. This is a desperate delaying tactic in hopes that they will regain the Senate and thus prevent a new justice from being seated until after 2020 or 2024 when they hope to win the presidency again.

Dems have morphed the #MeToo movement into #McCarthyismTwo. They are seeking to establish guilt by association or mere accusation - a standard they would never accept if it were applied to themselves. This authoritarian tendency among Progressives is going to ever more extreme lengths. It’s as if America is going through its own Maoist Cultural Revolution with all of the inevitable misery and damage that were it’s result.

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This is a desperate delaying tactic in hopes that they will regain the Senate and thus prevent a new justice from being seated until after 2020 or 2024 when they hope to win the presidency again.

This is a desperate attempt by the GOP to ram through a candidate before an election where they might lose control, and this is after waiting 8 months when Obama was President because “the people had to have their say.”

The GOP is terrified that the Democrats will return the favor. That’s what’s driving everything here.

I told you you’d regret changing the rules and making this the new normal, but you were so drunk of the thought of stopping Obama from choosing that you ignored the consequences.

Now we are all in this mess.

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Trump says what politicians are afraid to say. Oh my...

Trump accuses Dems of playing 'con game' with Kavanaugh nomination

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojarvM2JOY4

The Democrat guest on this panel is the only one who doesn't make any sense.

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So the Avenatti accuser will be revealed today for an Anderson Cooper interview on CNN, right?

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Wowowow.

Some people seem to have already convicted him by accusation alone while hypocritically shouting how full of hatred others are.

I don't care about whether he's a dem or a con, since both are two sides of the same corrupt coin in a 'two party democracy'... whatever that means. ;)

It just shocks me how people immediately jump on the bandwagon to chastise him without any substantial proof just because he's a political 'enemy'.

She should make her point in a court of law - and if it turns out he did it, he should get convicted. If it turns out there's reasonable doubt that he did it, he should not be convicted and he may sue her for false accusation and/or slander.

Seeing how there seem to be neither proof nor facts supporting her claim and how she only brings it up now, her credibility is severely damaged by default. What people conveniently forget is that the burden of proof lies with the accuser, not the accused.

Downvote me all you want, but I think people who partake in witch hunts like that should never become a public servant and if they are, I want them to resign for clearly not understanding and/or denying the right to fair process.

Innocent until proven guilty, get it into your thick skulls and deal with it.

Truly disgraceful.

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Innocent until proven guilty, get it into your thick skulls and deal with it.

Are you speaking to your fellow posters or those who have been crowing "lock her up" about Hillary Clinton?

Conversely why are some people so desperate to believe that rich and powerful men are innocent of sexual assault?

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BlacklabelSep. 25  10:34 pm JST

Oh no cause you won’t stop there. You will then try to use his lack of getting that job due to allegations as a way to use those same allegations to remove him from his current job too.

Ummm...

You do realize I'm not a US Senator, right?

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Are you speaking to your fellow posters or those who have been crowing "lock her up" about Hillary Clinton?

I have nothing against Hillary, and she isn't part of this discussion so I'll take this as a rhetorical question.

Conversely why are some people so desperate to believe that rich and powerful men are innocent of sexual assault?

I'm not desperate to believe anything, read my post again. He's innocent until proven guilty PERIOD.

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I have nothing against Hillary, and she isn't part of this discussion so I'll take this as a rhetorical question.

You told us to get it through our thick skulls that people are innocent until proven guilty. Hence my rhetorical.

I'm not desperate to believe anything, read my post again. He's innocent until proven guilty PERIOD.

If he's innocent, I wonder why the situation is described as a witch hunt. Is that the fate in store now for everytime a woman speaks up against sexual assault? She's hounding a poor, innocent man and her credibility is in question because she only brings it up now...

There's a reason why not every victim come forward immediately after something like that.

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Toasted Heretic

If he's innocent, I wonder why the situation is described as a witch hunt. Is that the fate in store now for everytime a woman speaks up against sexual assault? She's hounding a poor, innocent man and her credibility is in question because she only brings it up now...

There's a reason why not every victim come forward immediately after something like that.

Rape utilizes FEAR as a major element. It is the use of a sex act to terrorize and it is an act of violence. It is one of the worst things that can happen to a woman - or a man. The victims have the burden in their minds, some of them put the violent act of assault in the back of their minds for years, decades. Some male victims just try to 'suck it up' like well, a man.

The very fact that the allegations have come to the fore and a bunch of politicians want to ignore all this shows a total lack of regard for the law and a lack of morals on behalf of many Congressmen. The suspect is calling the scandal a 'witch hunt'. His endorser Donald Douchebag Traitor also uses that term to describe the allegations on the crimes that he HAS done. Birds a feather, folks.

Kavanaugh's sponsor Spankee Boy Trump has some very ugly issues himself. He brags about assaulting and groping women like a preteen,  he's popped off his chops with hateful sexist talk to pageant contestants and has bragged about watching them undress in the locker room. And his lustful blubbering about his daughter is absolutely nauseating! So when he endorses this creep, what does that tell you? Birds a feather....

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"So when he endorses this creep, what does that tell you? Birds ( of ) a feather...."

Other than these unsubstantiated accusations by liberals, what makes Brett Kavanaugh a "creep"?

Oh my...

Isn't Kavanaugh entitled to due process?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwH2G2CHCKc

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Trump's Supreme Court nominee Kavanaugh rejects 'false accusations' - Headline

For the simple reason that she's clearly lying and is a puppet, bought and paid for by radical leftist political hacks, a pawn in a deliberate vile attempt to delay and abuse the advise and consent process.

And on Thursday, she'd be committing perjury if she dares appear, probably plead the fifth or risk time in a jail cell along with other penalties.

But by golly, the company you libs keep: Avenatti (who would hire this guy?), a porno film actress (role model for your daughters?), Rep. Maxine Waters (no description necessary), Rep. Keith Ellison (the gf beater), the MS 13 gang (Pelosi's "children"), advocates for open borders and abolish ICE, fervent champions for Maduro and lately for Hasan Rouhani. 

You can't make this list up. 

A century from historians will ask: What were these now-defunct Dems thinking?

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katsu78- It hasn't,

Yes, it has. You just don't like the answer. That doesn't change anyone's opinion. It also doesn't change the fact that Democrat accuser No-1 KEEPS CHANGING HER STORY over the decades, and that her chosen alleged-witnesses DENY her story. Democrat accuser No-2 has said, "it might not be him". Not very strong accusations. Only the usual suspects insist that the extremely poor memories of these accusers are proof that these accusers are telling the truth.

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Other than these unsubstantiated accusations by liberals, what makes Brett Kavanaugh a "creep"?

Oh my...

Isn't Kavanaugh entitled to due process?

This isn't a 'liberal' or 'conservative' or even political issue. It's right or wrong. And Kavanaugh is getting due process right now and he's got egg on his face and mud on his shoes! Maybe his 'skeletons in the closet' aren't so nakedly visible as that of the traitor Trump but they are being exposed as they should be.

Oh my...

And yes, Trump's shameful boorish talk, mannerisms and actions do reflect something on Kavanaugh as well. Trump has shown himself to be an uncouth disgraceful lying Mussolini who is not to be trusted. He hasn't revealed his taxes, he's done nothing about the children he kidnapped, he flip-flopped with Kim and he cozies up to Putin every time. He keeps showing time and time again that he is **not to be trusted. **So why believe and trust him now? Gimme one good reason.

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I have faith in God and I have faith in the fairness of the American people," Kavanaugh said.

Now he's using the Lord's name in vain - as a cover to get what he wants. He's being desperate now. We can't trust him.

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I have faith in God and I have faith in the fairness of the American people," Kavanaugh said.

"Now he's using the Lord's name in vain"

Not only that he's using the American people in vain!

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SerranoSep. 29 01:47 am JSTI have faith in God and I have faith in the fairness of the American people," Kavanaugh said.

"Now he's using the Lord's name in vain"

Not only that he's using the American people in vain!

The old 'faith in God, country, family, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet' routine.  A desperate plea from a power-hungry phony. This guy makes me sick! I ain't buying his spiel or his crybaby story about how 'he and his family are suffering from all this scrutiny'. I ain't buying it!!! 

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Remember Sarah Palin and the type of 'hero' SHE turned out to be. Don't fall for this faker either.

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Remember Sarah Palin and the type of 'hero' SHE turned out to be. Don't fall for this faker either.

Fake, strong, conservatives, worked as a journalist, actually ran a State, took on the oil industries of Washington, gee did Harris, Booker do anything remotely close. She never belittled men, groped a man or talked someone's ear off and told all men to shut up.

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