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Turkish-led forces advance into Syrian border town

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Why? Why, Why? Do news agencies still quote from the Syrian Observatory on Human rights? The “Observatory” is actually one man, Rami Abdul Rahman an anti-Assad and Syrian regime exile living in a semi detached house in Coventry, England. The numbers and information it gives are all unverified, often exaggerated or simply fabricated.

The western press, also anti Assad, know its information is junk but still publish as it fits the narrative it wants to publish.

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Beacon of freedom

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I had no idea ethnic cleansing was a U.S policy. Nore did I know that working with the U.S actually gives the green light to ethnic cleansing. Who would have thought being stabbed in the back is an actual policy by a not a the supposed beak on of freedom.

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This is an interesting interview - Trump talks about getting us out of the endless wars:

As he orders more troops to Saudi Arabia. Trumpophiles don't seem to understand when they are being taken for a ride.

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lincolnman: Don't remember any ISIS attacks in China 

Don't remember any ISIS attacks in the U.S. either. Al Qaida, yes, ISIS no. And yet the U.S. has helped the Kurds in Syria and Iraq for years.

Please, do a little research before you post...

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/01/16/two-us-troops-two-american-civilians-killed-in-isis-attack-in-syria/

This is an interesting interview - Trump talks about getting us out of the endless wars:

President Trump joins 'Justice with Judge Jeanine'

Two crackpots if there ever were...Judge Jeanine is a joke...and Donnie's a Dimwit....put the show on the Comedy Channel where it belongs.

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History tells us that ISIS didn’t exist until the Obama administration. 

Who's history? Putin's?

Most historians of the Islamic State agree that the group emerged out of al-Qaeda in Iraq as a response to the U.S. invasion in 2003. They also agree that it was shaped primarily by a Jordanian jihadist and the eventual head of al-Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The Jordanian had a dark vision: He wished to fuel a civil war between Sunnis and Shiites and establish a caliphate.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/isis-origins-anbari-zarqawi/577030/

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Seeing shades of grey and nuance, is something above the intellectual capacity of most of our members of the right.

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This is Genocide of the Kurds.  The same Kurds who fought along side the US forces.  Now abandoned.  It will take many years before people trust America again as an reliable partner.  Trump has treated the Kurdish troops and civilians in the same manner as he did Michael Cohen.  No longer of any use to him, he doesn't give a flying whatever about them.  And they are being decimated.  This is a war crime.

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Trump decided to abandon our allies after a phone call to one of his major donors, the Turkish president. Amazing to think that if only the Kurds were in a position to offer the American president a huge bribe, they might have kept American support.

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It clearly states that the Syrian Rebels are the ones attacking the Kurds.

Are you seriously claiming there is only one faction of Syrian rebels?

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Left, who are supposedly anti-war and against the military industrial complex, are now arguing for more American military engagement in the Middle East and for placing American troops into an area of active conflict to act as a tripwire that could force America into a greater war against a fellow NATO ally. Huhh?

Incorrext. We are arguing for a well thought out withdrawal, not a knee-jerk reactionary withdrawal that leaves our allies flapping on the wind like Donny implemented. Why is it so difficult for a Trumpophiles to understand nuance; the world is not black and white.

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@lincolnmaN

And ISIS, which was being destroyed under President Obama, now grows and becomes a greater threat to the US and Europe under Donnie the Dimwit...

Wrong!

Please read up on your modern day history...

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So the anti-Assad Syrian rebels who are attacking the Kurds and taking their territory, are they the good guys or bad guys?

Bad guys - Russians, Assad, ISIS. Good guys - everyone else.

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Pay attention; three years ago Turkey imprisoned it's Military leadership and hundreds of thousands of turkish leaders just for trying to enforce Turkeys Constitution as their Constitution demanded they not peermit a religious leader to take over their secular government.

The hundreds of thousands of turkish political prisoners languish in jail and Islamist Ergoan is now trying to enlarge Turkey by occupying as much of Syria as he can get away with.

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The Kurds should have put in with ISIL. They seem to be surrounded by terrorists and should take some as allies before they get wiped out.

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Trump threw the Kurds to the wolves without even attempting to negotiate. What a wuss!

Trump: Uuuuhhh! I give up! Putin, Erdogan and Assad . . . You guys can take over from here! I don't want to be involved with trying to help anybody. America first!

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The US has failed in Syria. Assad will stay. Russia, Iran and the people of Syria are the winners.

Turkey has no interest in gaining territory. It does however, have at its core, the desire to keep Turkey as it is. The US knows that Turkey will never permit a Kurdish state, regardless of any sanctions or even war.

The present situation is just Trump bending to reality.

Sad to say but Trump is right on this... (that hurts) The Syrian civil war was an Obama/ Clinton experiment so Trump can easily duck out.

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Please read up on your modern day history...

It's a little early in the day to be trying to revise reality, isn't it?

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And the Trump-Putin-Assad-Erdogan plan to make Syria, Turkey, and Russia Great Again continues....

"The Turkish invasion is no longer threatening the revival of Daesh (Islamic State), rather it has revived it and activated its cells in Qamishli and Hasaka and all the other areas," SDF official Redur Xelil said, noting car bombs in each of the cities in the last day.

And ISIS, which was being destroyed under President Obama, now grows and becomes a greater threat to the US and Europe under Donnie the Dimwit...

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@lincolnmaN

And ISIS, which was being destroyed under President Obama, now grows and becomes a greater threat to the US and Europe under Donnie the Dimwit...

Wrong!

Please read up on your modern day history...

Thank you for offering such a knowledgeable and fact-filled reply...

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I'm having difficulty keeping up with the ever evolving Syria narrative here.

Do some research instead of intentionally over-simplifying things in a disingenuous attempt to make liberals look back.

So the anti-Assad Syrian rebels who are attacking the Kurds and taking their territory, are they the good guys or bad guys?

Here, you are creating a false duality in another disingenuous attempt to disparage liberals.

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Liberals on Monday: "Trump is bad for not supporting the Syrian Rebels"

Liberals on Tuesday: "Trump is bad for not opposing the Syrian Rebels"

No. You're intentionally misrepresenting what liberals say.

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This is an interesting interview - Trump talks about getting us out of the endless wars:

President Trump joins 'Justice with Judge Jeanine'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz1fSJ7ieUE

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@lincolnmaN

And ISIS, which was being destroyed under President Obama, now grows and becomes a greater threat to the US and Europe under Donnie the Dimwit...

Wrong!

Please read up on your modern day history...

Thank you for offering such a knowledgeable and fact-filled reply...

History tells us that ISIS didn’t exist until the Obama administration. They began and flourished under Obama’s reign. The ISIS caliphate was created under Obama. It was not rolled back until he left office and Trump unleashed a new policy and the military in Syria and Iraq. That is history - plain and clear.

Obama initiated American involvement in Syria and he invited Russia into the region when he bailed out on his failed Red Line policy.

I am enjoying the back and forth on Syria from both the Left and Right. The Left, who are supposedly anti-war and against the military industrial complex, are now arguing for more American military engagement in the Middle East and for placing American troops into an area of active conflict to act as a tripwire that could force America into a greater war against a fellow NATO ally. Huhh?

When the US Congress voted for war in Afghanistan and against ISIS the American Left turned against it as-soon-as they found a political advantage. The best thing America can do now is to disengage from the post WW2 world policeman role that there is no longer a domestic consensus for. I hate seeing American troops get handcuffed and cut off at the knees by a fickle American Left who have no qualms with turning its back on wars they voted to begin.

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zichi: When will the American people start PEACEFUL protests against Trump and US foreign policy? It seems many US citizens are not in agreement with the US withdrawal from Syria, so they should exert their democratic right and protest, right?

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The U.S. has helped them for years. Tell the Chinese to take over. They won't because they're too smart to do that.

lincolnman: Don't remember any ISIS attacks in China 

Don't remember any ISIS attacks in the U.S. either. Al Qaida, yes, ISIS no. And yet the U.S. has helped the Kurds in Syria and Iraq for years.

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