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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.Republican lawmakers storm hearing room, disrupting Trump impeachment inquiry
By Richard Cowan, Mark Hosenball and Patricia Zengerle WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
93 Comments
Jimizo
Trash talking spoiled brat.
He knows he’s in trouble....
Ah_so
If Trump declared himself President for life and locked up the opposition, there'd still be people, including on this site, who'd support him.
savethegaijin
^You're joking, right?
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
A rogues gallery of morons pictured here: You've got Matt Gaetz, who drink drives and gets bailed out by Daddy; Gym Jordan who turned a blind eye to sex abuse at Ohio State; and Louis Gohmert who had a meltdown about an alleged affair during the Strzok hearing. The very best and brightest Republicans, clearly.
SuperLib
It's pretty amazing that the bubble can convince their base that Republicans have been "locked out" of the "secret hearings."
Chip Star
They don't always.
It still exists. Why won't Donny practice it by letting people testify and providing documents in discovery.
They aren't. It's the investigatory stages before the grand jury hears evidence to hand down an indictment. Investigations and grand juries, as Trunpophilescwell know, are not open to the public.
The republicans in the senate can vote to have witnesses if they want to hear from these people. Witnesses are available for examination and cross-examination in the trial.
yamada1043
The vulgar current occupant of the White House, doing what he does best, with the help of his followers in the U.S. Congress.
It’s ironic that he was a registered Democrat most of his adult life and switched his political party affiliation as opportunists do.
lincolnman
What a disgusting show of immaturity and disrespect for our Constitution. But as has been mentioned, when you have a trio of clowns like Jordan, Gaetz and "Loony Louie" Gohmert, expect anything. I wouldn't put it past them to start waving Russian flags from the rafters. What an embarrassment...
Trump 2020 - 2030: Rikers Island...
Ah_so
Trump should do the honourable thing and resign and hope for a pardon
Unfortunately, honour is a quality he totally lacks. And so do many of his party, trying to disrupt a legal investigation like spoilt children.
plasticmonkey
This is a sign of worse things to come. Trump cultists will do anything to protect their Lord and Savior.
Truly appalling.
Pukey2
Repugnant. Sore losers.
Bass4funk: Having sex in private, no matter how disgusting you think it is, is not the same as letter foreign countries interfere with the security of your own country and bribing other leaders for your own financial and political benefit. And neither is wearing a tan suit or sleeveless dress a crime. Roll on 2020.
theFu
There were Republicans inside the SCIF, as part of the committee.
Testimony that is likely to contain national secrets should be given inside a secure facility.
The chairman agreed to make transcripts, sans national secrets, available to all of Congress. I believe that will happen.
Anyone who wasn't invited with a legal reason to be there needs to be arrested, lose their clearances, and be blocked from joining any committees where a clearance is required. Put the action on their "permanent record."
Anyone who entered the room without permission should be arrested and charged with a crime.
Lawmakers can't be prevented from doing their jobs according to the US Constitution, so any punishment would need to be a work-release program. Basically, if they break almost any law on the way to or from or during Congressional work, they get a pass. That's the hard part for the charges.
OTOH, when Democrats stole all the "W" keys off computers, they didn't get charged with theft of govt property, so ...
Simon Foston
Burning BushToday 07:07 am JST
I don't know why you're so bothered. You appear to think that Trump has nothing to hide and therefore nothing to worry about, so surely you're confident that Republican Senators will acquit him. So what does it matter how the Democrats go about these proceedings?
Laguna
Memory serves that the GOP Congress held their endless Benghazi investigation behind closed doors.
Look - this stage is like a grand jury. They gather and collate info and than make it public for consideration. Do the GOP feel that grand jury hearings should be open to the public? That would defeat the purpose.
rainyday
This looks like a stupid frat boy stunt.
And note from the picture that every one of them is a dude who looks like a stupid former frat boy.
stormcrow
What a bunch of crybabies.
wtfjapan
Testimony that is likely to contain national secrets should be given inside a secure facility.
remember all the retracted information in the public release of the Mueller report because the AJ didnt want shown because of national security reasons. The Republican suffer from selective amnesia
Simon Foston
BlacklabelToday 10:35 am JST
But they weren't Democrats. If they had been I would be shaking my head at such a pointless stunt. I assume though that you think it was up there with firefighters saving babies from burning buildings.
plasticmonkey
The usual rabidly zealous dingbats in that photo: Mark Meadows, Louie Gohmert, Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan . . .
Strangerland
Why are Trumpets so afraid of due process and the rule of law? Why do they hate the constitution?
CrazyJoe
I will not be satisfied with just Trump's impeachment and removal from office. I want all the congressional Republicans who have stone walled and supported Trump to be censured and expelled. Those individuals who have actively supported Trump should be charged with criminal conspiracy.
Sneezy
Republicans, the party of Wall Street. Pathetic.
dmacleod
"Non-committee members are not allowed in the room during the deposition. Those are the rules. No exceptions made." -- Republican Trey Gowdy - June 15, 2015
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
And witness tampering. Let's not forget Matt Gaetz's little stunt. https://www.vox.com/2019/2/26/18241996/matt-gaetz-michael-cohen-trump-twitter-threat
theeastisred
Republican committee members are allowed to view the evidence and are allowed to interview witnesses. Nobody is required to 'except' the allegations, and the authorised Republicans, i.e. committee members, are most certainly allowed to take part in the political process, as they are doing. Your comments are totally unfounded.
elephant200
Trump has deployed his "Stormtroopers"! Except they were inplain clothes instead the brown shirt uniforms!
SuperLib
Oh I think Trump will survive all of it. But, before the end, it will be obvious that he broke the law for personal gain, and it will be obvious that Congressional Republicans helped him get away with it.
That's how it will be written in the history books.
dmacleod
Let's see here: There are about 45+ GOP committee members who are present at these hearings. They get to listen to witnesses and then ask them questions. What is so secretive about that? As far as the Republicans who were not allowed into the room, if they really wanted to be there, then maybe they should have asked for better committee assignments from their own leadership.
Oh, and if the Republicans really want to hear witnesses like Ambassador Taylor speak in public, why not invite them to read their opening statements on the White House steps? Let's see how that works out for them.
Be careful what you wish for.
dmacleod
You do realize that the higher the DEFCON number, the lower the threat is, right?
u_s__reamer
We are witnessing the "last days of the Trumpian Empire". The cowardly Repug enablers, "tired of winning", refuse to fall on their swords and instead storm the secure hearing room in an attempt to distract from the spectacle of Trump's falling house of cards. If justice were to be served, this would all end in a presidential perp-walk out of the Oval Office with the hapless dummy Pence waving his former boss bye-bye.
nishikat
When did they ever do this during Benghazi or PizzaGate hearings?
Yes
lincolnman
To protect our democracy - something the GOP - Guardians of Putin - would never do, unless he ordered them to...
Work, instead of playing golf....
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-150-days-presidency-trump-golf-club-1090729
Spent 27 years in the US military working with DIAM 50-3 and ICS 705-1 - want to compare knowledge?
dmacleod
That it never existed in the first place and was the product of the imaginations of Dmytro Firtash (also known as "Dmitry Firtash"), Rudi Guliani, and other Trump henchmen which later got amplified by right-wing conservative media and then spread like manure by loyalists on websites like this one.
B. Jay
Really? Lawless lawmakers.
Strangerland
Just following advice from Republicans with experience in the matter on how to hold effective hearings:
Link: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trey-gowdy-who-led-11-hour-benghazi-hearing-declares-public-congressional-hearings-utterly-useless
wtfjapan
Trump's allies sought to put the focus on what they portray as unfair Democratic tactics rather than on the president's conduct.
WTF Trump uses his executive privilege every chance he gets to go around the house and congress, explain to me how democratic that is, hypocrisy of Republicans is thicker than shite
Jimizo
The ‘orange man bad’ meme is a useful one. Apparently it can be employed without even bothering to think about what Trump actually did in a specific situation.
smithinjapan
Blacklabel: "if these had been Democrats we would be reading about their bravery and courage and how they are motivated only by wanting to protect our Democracy from the evil of OrangeManBad."
So, you suppor this action and think these men are brave and courages, and protecting democracy? Okay, noted. Don't forget this when you backtrack and say you didn't support it, or didn't know what they did was illegal and a major breach in security when they took in electronics.
Numan
It looks like a scheme to:
1) impress the boss
2) identify and intimidate a whistleblower (how many cameras and smart devices did they bring into that room illegally?)
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter because more whistleblowers are coming forward. It doesn't matter who the original whistleblower is. There is too much evidence and too many witnesses to discredit the original whistleblower. The tactics that they used on the Mueller report aren't working, so the Republicans and the President are freaking out!
Chip Star
If he is re-elected and if he continues to blatantly break the law, yes.
If this were even remotely the standard, we'd still be stuck with Obama. You people are hypocritical to the n-th degree.
Numan
Moscow Mitch will go whichever direction the wind is blowing!
Mitch McConnell Contradicts Trump's Claim They Spoke About His Ukraine Call
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/mitch-mcconnell-denies-trump-ukraine-call.html
Chip Star
Incorrect.
Being in the minority sucks.
Bit Senate republicans will be on record as not opposing Donny's corruption. That's gonna sting in an election year.
ulysses
As one witness put it, 'It was a bunch of Republicans eating pizza and pretending to be brave'.
Brave is a funny word for these sorry excuse of human beings who offered their balls as sacrifice to their orange God!!!!!
lincolnman
The only thing this clown is going to get elected to is Library Custodian at Rikers Island. Maybe Manafort can run his campaign and Cohen can be his assistant...I was going to say Crazy Rudy but he'll be locked down in the Psych Ward...
Huh? They brought electronic devices into a SCIF? That's a big time foul - what are they doing, beaming everything back to Moscow? This needs investigated.
Agree, but Loony Louie Gohmert looks like a reject from a Hee-Haw audition...
smithinjapan
I'm only surprised that in jeopardizing the country's national security for their butt-kissing of Trump, they didn't demand to know where Hillary's emails were, declaring it a breach of national security.
Honestly, Matt Gaets, who has been seeking a higher office while making racist comments and having to walk them back time and again, should be arrested, and all of these lawmakers, some of whom ran when questioned, should go on the record as obstruction justice in an impeachment trial, and ultimately this act, supported by Trump, become yet another article of impeachment against him. I love how these clowns think that the actions they are taking are actually helping him, when in fact they are just adding to his woes, and their own. Supporter of sexual predator Jim Jones sure has forgotten his hypocrisy on national security.
Chip Star
With Moscow Mitch refusing to bring over 100 pieces of House-passed legislation to votes, what's the point of continuing to legislate? Didn't think that one through, did you?
Chip Star
Well put!
Chip Star
Incorrect. Try again.
They are aboutcas accurate as the polls that showed Donny losing.
Chip Star
A limited number of republicans, but what they get to see and hear is the same as the limited number of Dems who also get to see and hear the same evidence. Keep trying.
Moscow has already put out campaign ads saying he won't I've the evidence a fair hearing, so this is no surprise. If the senate had to follow thecaame rules as actual, unbiased juries; Murder Mitch would already be removed from participation.
Chip Star
Democrats do try to be correct. Smooth.
Glad you agree the economic models you cited aren't accurate. Smooth.
Numan
Nixon was also re-elected!
elephant200
Trump is dismantling the American democracy with "Thug Actions"! When will you guys realise he is working for Kremilin? There is no stupidest people, only more stupid people!
Strangerland
Extremism is not an appropriate response to extremism.
If they've conspired criminally, they should be charged. If you start retroactively charging people for supporting a duly elected leader is the path to fascism.
Anyone who has done anything criminal should be charged. But it needs to be carefully considered whether their actions are just distasteful, or actually criminal. The former deserves derision, the latter derision and prosecution.
Pukey2
typo: letter - letting
Numan
Neither does the current president! I wonder why..........
Maria
Blinded by the white.
Chip Star
Never mind the growing pile of evidence to the contrary.
You literally went from brandishing economic models to disparaging them when referenced by Warren. Smooth.
You praise Moscow for obstructing but disparage the Dems for allegedly doing the same? How is it different?
Even conservative judges respect the law enough to not allow Donny to break it. Even moderate righties and lefties are growing weary of his shenanigans.
Speaking of the courts, Donny recently lost again. The appeals should be enjoyable to watch unfurl.
wtfjapan
Trump is not going to be removed from office.
nobody is expecting that especially when the Republicans will block it in the Senate, what wont be removed is all the illegal corrupt things Trump has done, still a year to go far more shite to dig up about Trump , and as that mountain of shite continues to grow come 2020 well see if people want to keep smelling the foul odor that comes from the oval office or they want to clear shop. Trump not being impeached doesn't take away the proven corruption illegal doings by him and his administration and certainly doesn't make him innocent.
theFu
retracted or redacted? Very different things.
WilliB
And what exactly is "BS" about the Biden scandal? Afaics, it is real, unlike the string of hoaxes that the swamp has created to hurt Trump.
Blacklabel
On the positive side we finally found something that Dems in Congress will even work Saturdays to do.
next thing you know they will be working through vacation days too.
Blacklabel
I have google too, where both of those documents are posted in unclassified form.
you sure didn’t start referencing DNI.gov website docs when classified emails were being sent all over the place in public email systems. Got a google reference for that one?
bass4funk
But limited of what they can view. They still can’t call witnesses. Anyway, he won’t be removed, so it’s all good.
Yeah, wished Dems thought that way about Reid....
bass4funk
Yeah, we keep hearing that for years now. Lol
Not me, I invest, this is what everyone is saying. Anyway, Wall st. hates her and she won’t get minority votes, not to mention the political body slam from the President should she be the nominee.
Payback.
bass4funk
You mean allegedly done, but never, ever proven. So after 3 years of wasted and extensive searching there wasn’t anything. Also, the Dems wouldn’t sell out to remove Clinton, the GOP will not do so with Trump as well.
Oh, I’m sure the Democrats will try hard to find anything.
...or if they want to lose money and pay double taxes under the Democrats and less prosperity, go ahead, but I doubt it, that’s why we are all here.
Uh-huh...ROFL...sure.
bass4funk
And they’ve been failing so far. 3 years attempt is a long time...
Not me, Warren said they would work, every other Economist said the opposite, but she won’t be President especially she can’t get the Black vote.
bass4funk
McConnell knows that. Lol
Yeah, sure. But thank God we have the courts now that Mitch put in more conservative judges and then there’s the SC. Either way, it won’t be good legislatively doesn’t the Dems.
bass4funk
I also see the polls in Swing States where 53% oppose impeaching the President, which helps Trump.
bass4funk
As well as opposing it in Key Swing States in just a few days.
WilliB
...err, and are they wrong about this? My understanding is that impeachment proceedings have always been in the open, and not conducted in secret by a partisan cangaroo court. Maybe some Trump hater can explain that.
Afaic, this article is a wonderful example of how to twist a story into the opposite of what it is.
bass4funk
No, but the Dems have and failed so far...
No, if you look at every economists model, No one is Wall St. likes these Democrats and if taxes go up and people don’t spend....
But liberals never think about this things. They can only think of RUSSIA or UKRAINE! Lol
bass4funk
That’s what the Democrats continue to do and continue to fail.
Yup, they all said that including FNC in 2016....lol
bass4funk
That’s not entirely true.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/10/15/hume_pelosi_delaying_impeaching_vote_smart_politically_she_can_hold_secret_hearings_and_selectively_leak.html
This way, she gets all of the fruits of this peculiar investigation that she announced going on and none of the downside. And they are conducting a very unusual investigation. You look back to the Nixon impeachment, which is the most widely accepted impeachment inquiry that we ever had.
It was overwhelmingly voted for but in addition to that the proceedings were very balanced, very fair, Republicans had their -- Nixon had his lawyers involved in the process in the House, they were allowed to call witnesses, take testimony. None of that is happening here. This is all being done behind closed doors, it is being done with the Republicans permitted to attend and asked questions but not to call witnesses, and what happens of course is the witnesses come, they appear, and then select portions of their testimony, which is not being made public, are leaked and they are creating the impression you would expect leaks from that side of the aisle to create and it's working like crazy.
Blacklabel
So I assume Dems will just start trying to impeach Trump again the day after he is re-elected. Never ending, these first 3 years shouldn’t even count for his 8 year limit.
Serrano
Wow Republicans really hate the law.
No, but the Democrats do.
bass4funk
What legal process? Shutting the GOP out of hearings is legal? Hmmmm...
Yes, but the GOP didn’t hold them against Obama or were trying to impeach him.
bass4funk
Let me tell you in the US back in 1998 if you don’t know this, but the Democrats were just out rage at the way Republicans were handling the impeachment against Bill Clinton. How do you call a political process when you’re being shut out and you’re not allowed to view any evidence, you’re not allowed to interview any witnesses, you’re just supposed to except the allegations are not allowed to confront them or be allowed to take part in the political process? This is what the Democrat party has become a complete donkey joke.
Serrano
The Democrats have made the House of Representatives a total joke.
Trump is not going to be removed from office.
bass4funk
The Democrats bubonic plague of the United States.
as did the Democrats back in 1998 when it wasn’t working for them.
Serrano
Republican lawmakers, encouraged by President Donald Trump to get tougher in fighting Democratic efforts to impeach him, stormed into a high-security hearing room
Trump is a BOSS.
Trump 2020
Blacklabel
if these had been Democrats we would be reading about their bravery and courage and how they are motivated only by wanting to protect our Democracy from the evil of OrangeManBad.