After delaying Brexit vote, May looks set to face leadership challenge

You’ve done all you can do, Ms. May. Let the Brexit gang—Farage, Johnson, et. al.—take over from here since they have all the answers. If you can find them, that is.

You’ve done all you can do, Ms. May

Indeed. May is a Remainer, which is the nub of the problem. Not to mention Hammond, Carney and all the other power brokers tasked with doing a job they object to.

The conservatives should have appointed a Brexiteer PM, who appreciates the will of the people. But dismissing the needs of regular folks is pretty popular these days among the mainstream politicians, (right, Mr. Macron?).

Democracy on the back foot.

 If you can find them, that is.

I guess you don't follow the news. They've been appearing in the media a lot these days. The narrative that they've "run away" is another Remoaner lie.

We know that the Tories as a whole are Remainers (around 187 voted Remain compared to the 140 who voted Leave), but let's just hope enough of them want Theresa May replaced. If she is, there are only two people that those who voted Leave will accept as PM. Rees-Mogg would be the preferred choice, but if not, Boris. Boris is seen as unreliable though. Anyone else (Gove, Leadsom etc) won't be trusted by the public as they have all flip-flopped over the last few days.

My god, I was fearing Boris, forgot about Ferange, and Robinson.

The conservatives should have appointed a Brexiteer PM

Except that they all bailed when their lies came home to roost.

The narrative that they've "run away" is another Remoaner lie.

They ran away, simple past tense. Now that they smell blood some of them, like the carrion scavengers they are, are starting to circle the dying carcass.

the options open to Britain range from a chaotic no-deal Brexit to risking the wrath of Brexit backers by calling the whole thing off

Then by all means call the whole thing off. Only 52% of 72% of the electorate (ie some 37% of the adult population) voted for the idea of Brexit, and surely some of them will be seeing sense now that the absurdity of the thing has been spelled out properly for them. For the sake of the remaining 63% who didn't vote for chaos, not to mention those too young to vote but who will certainly be affected, it's time to step back from the edge, take a breather, have a good look at the real world, and if necessary come back to the topic in 5 or 10 years' time.

Europe should offer no concessions. This is a disaster of the UKs making. Where are Boris and Nigel now after all their lies have come out?

Europe should and must take the hard-line, if nothing else, to prevent other countries from following similar disasters.

@cleo

You do know that using expressions like "carrion scavengers" and "dying carcass" don't add any weight to your argument? It actually has the opposite effect.

Regarding the "running away" / "ran way" issue:

Most people are referring to Nigel Farage, Boris Johson and Micheal Gove when talking about this.

Farage - Was leader of UKIP. Not a Conservative. Not an MP. He had no ability to do anything in British parliament. He stood down as leader of UKIP, but he remained an MEP in the EU parliament. He is still heavily involved in Brexit, In fact, rumour has it that he's going to set up a new Brexit party. So, hasn't run away.

Boris - Wanted to be PM and was going to stand as a candidate. Was betrayed by Gove and knew he wouldn't be able to win, so he stood aside. Yet, he still wants to be PM and everybody knows he's waiting for the opportunity. Also said on TV on Sunday that he feel personally responsible for Brexit. So again, hasn't run away.

Gove - Betrayed Boris because he wanted a shot at being PM, but because of his actions he was rejected. Was unable to become PM. Still a major player in the Conservative party and still wants to be PM. So, hasn't run away.

All three of these people were unable to take control of Brexit because they were all unable to become PM even though all three wanted to be. Yet, Boris and Gove still had positions on the Cabinet and are still promoting Brexit. No one has run away. Except Cameron, who was a Remainer.

Even if Lying Johnson or David "thick as mince" Davies replace May they still won't be able to force through a no-deal Brexit: they just don't have the numbers.

"call the whole thing off", "only 37%", etc

This is just an immature attitude.

72.2% of the British electorate voted in the EU referendum. That is one of the highest in modern British history.

In addition, 17,410,742 people voted for Brexit. That is the highest democratic mandate in British history.

Millions more were eligible to vote, young people especially, but didn't bother. We also don't re-run elections or referendums again because those affected by the result were too young to vote for it at the time. That isn't democratic.

"63% didn't vote for chaos".

It is a chaos because of a Remain Parliament, Remain Government, Remain PM, Remain Media and a minority of Remainers who can't accept a democratic result.

Only 34% of the British population voted to Remain. It is very easy to make the argument "66% of the British public didn't vote to Remain".

Only 34% of the British population voted to Remain.

56% of NI/6 counties voted to Remain. But nobody cares about them.

@Toasted

Who said nobody cares about them? Northern Ireland has been the centerpiece discussion for 6 months.

It is interesting that the 48% who voted Remain is something we are not allowed to ignore, but 44% of Northern Irish people are not important?

If after Brexit, the majority of Northern Irish people want a referendum to leave or stay in the UK, that's fine. Where you and I differ, is that you think they want to be part of a United Ireland more than being part of the UK. I think if you give them the choice, they'll choose being part of the UK anyday. I am also very happy for them to have that choice as soon as possible.

Farage - Was leader of UKIP. Not a Conservative

He was active in the Conservative party (not an MP) from youth until he left after the Maastricht Treaty. He campaigned hard for Brexit, and left as soon as the votes were in. Lots of muck-raking, no intent to see things through.

Boris - Wanted to be PM

...but not with the poison chalice of negotiating Brexit held to his lips. After the referendum he was visibly subdued, shocked that the polls had been wrong and stepped down from the PM election.

Gove - Betrayed Boris because he wanted a shot at being PM

Polls showed he had no chance: but as Boris' campaign manager, he could have played a major role in a Johnson Cabinet. Considering his back-stabbing tendencies, probably a good thing he didn't.

"call the whole thing off", "only 37%", etc

This is just an immature attitude.

Nah, just like when the British public voted to call a spanking new AUV Boaty McBoatface, the grown-ups stepped in and decided to call it the Sir David Attenborough instead, there are times when immature 'decisions' need to be handled sensibly.

The 52% were lured by lies - '350 million pounds a week for the NHS', 'Take Back Control', 'Take Our Country Back'. Now it's time for the grown-ups (assuming there are any left, gawd 'elp us) to soothe the temper tantrum and put things back the way they were.

If after Brexit, the majority of Northern Irish people want a referendum to leave or stay in the UK, that's fine.

Before Brexit, the Scottish people were given a referendum to leave or stay in the UK, and one very strong reason they chose to stay was the threat of Scotland being excluded from the EU after independence. And now they're being dragged out of the EU after 62% vote to Remain.

Nah, the grown ups have already made a decision. People trying to get a second referendum is akin to a temper tantrum.

"The 52% were lured by lies". Sigh. I can't believe there are people who refuse to acknowledge that there are genuine reasons why 17.4 million people could vote leave. You'll probably come out with the whole "I'm not saying it was all of 17.4 million, but......"

Just think about this. The majority of the British public still voted leave despite the best attempts of the Government, Media and Establishment to make them vote otherwise. No doubt it'll be "Yeah, but some people are really stupid and......"

I also happily support the Scottish having another UK Independence referendum after Brexit is finished. Again, like the Northern Irish, the majority of SNP voters don't want to leave the Union to hand all of their sovereignty to the EU - it makes zero sense to Scottish nationalists.

"You’ve done all you can do, Ms. May."

Nah, actually she could still do some more damage before she is ousted. Trump was wrong when he said she was doing a great job, but then that was right in front of her on her turf, he was just being polite.

Theresa May will, or could just offer stand down, if or when an election is called.

This is about jobs, first and foremost MP's jobs.

It is an outrage, these duplicitous MP will throw there wife's and children overboard to save there careers.

These snivelling, craven Tories are too busy trying to grab power rather than think about the country. Scumbags, the lot of them. It's going to bite them on the bum, though, as May will win this no confidence vote.

@Cleo

Except that they all bailed when their lies came home to roost.

Every time Ive turned on the BBC this week, Gove, Johnson, Farage, etc. are pontificating about Brexit in front of the cameras.

What about the Remoaner lies about a pro-Brexit vote triggering a financial markets meltdown and capital outflow?

May won the vote. Quelle Surpise. I hope the glory seeking back stabbers lose their seats in the next GE.

Every time Ive turned on the BBC this week, Gove, Johnson, Farage, etc. are pontificating about Brexit in front of the cameras.

After spending two years not negotiating Brexit. It's easy to stand back while someone else does all the hard work and then step in at the eleventh hour to pick holes in what she's done. If they could have done better, why didn't they?

Because they knew whoever tried to sort out a sensible Brexit deal was on a hiding to nowhere, is why.

What about the Remoaner lies about a pro-Brexit vote triggering a financial markets meltdown and capital outflow?

Dunno about anything about financial markets and capital outflow, but I do know the pound dropped from ¥160+ before the referendum to around ¥130 after it, and it still hasn't recovered to more than around ¥145.

Looks like May survived the no-confidence vote. If Conservative MPs can have a second say about who they want as leader (duly elected by the members), why can't the electorate have a second say about what kind of relationship they want with the EU? If the 'choice of the people must be respected', why did the Con politicians not respect their own choice of leader?