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Father of molested girls lunges at disgraced USA Gymnastics doctor in court

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quercetumToday  10:12 am JST

Medieval forms of punishment can be brought back for this case.

Do you think that would do anything for the girls he victimized?

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Father of molested girls lunges at disgraced USA Gymnastics doctor in court

And I don't blame him one bit.

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I am a pacifist, but I really cannot fault this father for having his parental instincts overcoming his common sense. I hope it doesn’t get him into too much trouble.

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Ever heard of the 'prison bitch' syndrome? Nassar is really punishing himself now and whether he believes in an afterlife or not, he's on the highway to hell. Hell on Earth, that is. Judge Cunningham was wise not to hold Margraves in 'contempt of court'. It would've served Nassar right if Margraves did get to beat him to a pulp. Either way, Nassar is going to get what he deserves because he was trusted in a job, he abused it and he's a sick scumbag.

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I can understand his reaction but it’s very fortunate he didn’t assault the molester as he would have been charged, incurred legal costs and a record, and further embarrassed and caused anguish to his long suffering daughters. His actions would have helped no one, not even himself.

This molester will pay, but vigilantism is a crime too

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Margraves didn't get to give Nassar the big slug that he deserves but others will! Nassar has disgraced himself and he will be a punching bag in the prison. This slime will pay, starting today.

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SerranoToday  03:22 pm JST

Anyone with feelings will stand with Mr. Margraves on this one.

Anyone with feelings would stand with the girls, I think you mean. Anyone with feelings would understand the father's anger, but that does not mean we should automatically agree with it.

And there is something very, very dangerous happening when we pay more attention to the rage of a male in the life of a sexual assault victim than to the person who actually experienced the sexual assault.

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Any father with daughters will stand with Margraves on this one.

Any father will stand with Margraves on this one brother. Don't need to have a girl to sympathize.

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Do you think that would do anything for the girls he victimized?

And 147 years would?

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Ya know who didn't believe one of the girls back then too?

"Meridian Police to publicly apologize to Larry Nasser accuser for not believing her in 2004, when she was 17"

http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/01/31/police-to-apologize-to-larry-nasser-accuser-for-not-believing-her-in-2004-when-she-was-17/

police in Meridian Township, Michigan, will apologize to Brianne Randall-Gay, who was 17 years old when she filed a report claiming Larry Nasser sexually abused her during an examination.

The detailed police report says the doctor touched her lower private parts for 20 minutes and her breast for 10 to 15 minutes while treating her for back pain.

Though Randall-Gay told police in 2004 that Nasser touched her breast and attempted to penetrate her vagina with his finger during a scoliosis test, authorities ultimately dismissed her complaint

Current city leaders are reportedly planning a public apology for Thursday to make amends for the treatment she received more than a decade ago. Township manager Frank Walsh has already addressed the issue.

“We missed it,” he said. “We’re not going to hide it. We were deceived.”

And that's why victim girls are afraid they won't be believed against powerful people

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quercetumToday  12:09 pm JST

And 147 years would?

I honestly can't say for certain. I've known sexual assault victims who express great relief knowing their attacker recieved a just sentence and is locked away, but we'd have to ask the girls he assaulted to know for sure.

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albaleoToday  07:45 am JST

I wonder whether whether the girls were more affected by the sexual assault or that no one believed them. I'm saddened by people suggesting that violent criminals in prison will give Nassar his just reward. Why do I suspect they would also be among those who wouldn't have listened to the girls in the first place?

Well said, I agree.

bass4funkToday  12:50 am JST

The man is a hero, the bailiffs should have let him go. Can’t blame him, I would have done the same.

When it's a coach, you support vigilante violence that violates the due process of the court, but when it's a Republican candidate from Alabama, you don't even want people to vote against the child abuser. Why is that?

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I find nothing praiseworthy about assaulting someone in a courtroom. Margraves disrupted proceedings for his own reasons.

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I find nothing praiseworthy about assaulting someone in a courtroom. Margraves disrupted proceedings for his own reasons.

Margraves was justifiably angry. A parents job is protect their children. If I were in his shoes I would have felt that I failed in my basic responsibility to my family. I don’t blame him one bit for going after him when he had a chance. But the judge should have given him some form of punishment beyond a token gesture. The reason there is a judicial system is to provide dispassionate justice in our behalf.

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bass4funkToday  05:30 pm JST

Taking someone on about an alleged crime that possibly happened 40 years ago is not an easy thing to do, 

Yes, it's not. Especially when members of the Internet peanut gallery hold a double standard regarding the rule of law depending on if they get a political advantage by ignoring the crimes committed against you.

There's no getting around it: you support vigilantism when the perp isn't a part of your political tribe and demand no one hold any opinion when the perp is a part of your political tribe.

And what's worrying about that to me is that if you can hold that double-standard, I have to question whether you actually care that much about victims of sexual assault. Because a person can't be said to really care too much about sexual assault victims if they are willing to slander them just to get a political advantage. So that leaves me to question, if you don't really care about victims of sexual assault, what's driving your violent fantasies to quote "crush this guys [sic] neck"?

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Anyone with feelings will stand with Mr. Margraves on this one.

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I understand why they keep going through the motions and tacking on more and more years when clearly after 70 years it won't matter to Nassar but it does at least give each person that suffered at his hands, some sort of closure.

The sad part is that I highly doubt that Nassar will actually live long enough in jail to really suffer for the hell he put all those girls through. If only those in jail could restrain themselves.

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The accused should 'never' be released-a danger to society!

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Medical examinations of young Girls by a Male Doctor without a Female Nurse being present.... ? Something should be changed.

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The man is a hero

No, he's not. By his own words, he failed his daughter. His behavior was understandable but wrong. He seems to admit that himself, for which I respect him.

And there is something very, very dangerous happening when we pay more attention to the rage of a male in the life of a sexual assault victim than to the person who actually experienced the sexual assault.

I agree. I wonder whether whether the girls were more affected by the sexual assault or that no one believed them. I'm saddened by people suggesting that violent criminals in prison will give Nassar his just reward. Why do I suspect they would also be among those who wouldn't have listened to the girls in the first place?

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as much as I wish Margraves was given his moral right to settle things with Nassar, prison life will be hellish and short for Nassar. He will be treated for what he is; the lowest of the low.

He will get the justice he deserves.

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If women were put in charge of girl instead of a male that train them like men, this would not happened.

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Medical examinations of young Girls by a Male Doctor without a Female Nurse being present.... ? Something should be changed.

What on earth are you talking about. On several occasions he abused girls when their mothers were in the room.

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Medieval forms of punishment can be brought back for this case.

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Let’s just hope he goes to general population in prison and the inmates get the details on what he did and the guards get distracted while it’s chow or shower time...

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I would do what that father did, but i can not help but thinking, there was a lot of attention seeking her from the father. His questions to the judge were childish and this was not in a rage , he planned it. 

If really in a rage , a spur of the moment, I am totally with him. If he planned it, also with him, but you don't forewarn judge and security by those questions. 

This man wanted attention, it does not exclude that he also wanted to avenge his children, rightly so. No, we should not accept everything There are limits to what is endurable and if my wife would get raped, I will not to court, because the law does not provide justice anymore in most cases. Luckily it does in this case. But, anyone touch my wife or son, or my dogs for that matter, I will go after myself.

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The man is a hero, the bailiffs should have let him go. Can’t blame him, I would have done the same.

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The father should serve some time in jail. It is bad to allow violence in a court of law. Not serving time shows it is allowable for people to take the law in their own hands. The doctor is headed for a lifetime of solitary confinement for his protection. He will be in a cell by himself for 23 hours a day with some time outside of it. The doctor is being punished and the father allowed his emotions to overrule his intelligence.

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@Daniel Naumoff. ?????

Please sir go on an elaborate on your last.

Dads with children can understand this mans anguish.

I stand with Nassar. Way to go Dad.

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No one oposiing 175 years sentencing.

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Yes, it's not. Especially when members of the Internet peanut gallery hold a double standard regarding the rule of law depending on if they get a political advantage by ignoring the crimes committed against you.

If there is hard evidence supporting the allegation then you can make a judgement, if not and you condemn someone based on emotion is grossly irresponsible, that’s a fact, especially if the perceived crime took place 4 decades ago and then to continue me out during a serious election and you have multiple accusers come out exactly the same time. Highly suspicious.

There's no getting around it: you support vigilantism when the perp isn't a part of your political tribe and demand no one hold any opinion when the perp is a part of your political tribe.

Not at all. I just don’t believe and would never just accept someone’s word especially after such a length of time without a shred of evidence and multiple people claiming the same thing, why did they wait so long, why did some of them embellished and tweaked their stories? I am not calling them liars, but it is very suspicious that so many came out at the same time, now if you want to blindly accuse someone based on zero tangible evidence then that’s your prerogative, I don’t and would never do that. I’m cautious, always have been and always will be. This case is very different as there was enough tangible evidence to go by, so once again, good on the father for what he tried to do.

And what's worrying about that to me is that if you can hold that double-standard,

I’m not double-standard in any way.

I have to question whether you actually care that much about victims of sexual assault.

I do, I’m just not a dumb fool.

Because a person can't be said to really care too much about sexual assault victims if they are willing to slander them just to get a political advantage.

Like I said, you can believe what you want and so shall I. You believe in condemning someone without a shred of evidence, I don’t.

So that leaves me to question, if you don't really care about victims of sexual assault, what's driving your violent fantasies to quote "crush this guys [sic] neck"?

I do care, that’s why I’m on the fathers side.

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Police started believing girls an victims now, The swimming coachs for. girls are arrested now .

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prison will take very good care of him some things in USA still work

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When it's a coach, you support vigilante violence that violates the due process of the court,

First of all, there was tangible evidence, DNA and over 100 witnesses, so what Nasser did is totally verifiable and irrefutable and as a father, yes, I would crush this guys neck. And as he said in court to the judge, what would you have done?

but when it's a Republican candidate from Alabama, you don't even want people to vote against the child abuser. Why is that?

Different, we are talking about something that allegedly happened 40 years ago, so who knows? None of us were there, so because a few women said it happened, we have to blindly believe them, what evidence, why now make a claim during a heated election campaign so suddenly? When you factor in all of these details, the wise thing and responsible thing to do is proceed with extreme caution. Taking someone on about an alleged crime that possibly happened 40 years ago is not an easy thing to do, not to mention some of the witnesses where shown to have stretched the truth and even lied. so it’s not the same thing.

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It is not anyhow your fault, Randall. It is the system and society you happened to be born in...

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