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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2018.Father of molested girls lunges at disgraced USA Gymnastics doctor in court
By Steve Friess CHARLOTTE, Mich©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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katsu78
Do you think that would do anything for the girls he victimized?
Aly Rustom
Father of molested girls lunges at disgraced USA Gymnastics doctor in court
And I don't blame him one bit.
CrazyJoe
I am a pacifist, but I really cannot fault this father for having his parental instincts overcoming his common sense. I hope it doesn’t get him into too much trouble.
starpunk
Ever heard of the 'prison bitch' syndrome? Nassar is really punishing himself now and whether he believes in an afterlife or not, he's on the highway to hell. Hell on Earth, that is. Judge Cunningham was wise not to hold Margraves in 'contempt of court'. It would've served Nassar right if Margraves did get to beat him to a pulp. Either way, Nassar is going to get what he deserves because he was trusted in a job, he abused it and he's a sick scumbag.
dcog9065
I can understand his reaction but it’s very fortunate he didn’t assault the molester as he would have been charged, incurred legal costs and a record, and further embarrassed and caused anguish to his long suffering daughters. His actions would have helped no one, not even himself.
This molester will pay, but vigilantism is a crime too
starpunk
Margraves didn't get to give Nassar the big slug that he deserves but others will! Nassar has disgraced himself and he will be a punching bag in the prison. This slime will pay, starting today.
katsu78
Anyone with feelings would stand with the girls, I think you mean. Anyone with feelings would understand the father's anger, but that does not mean we should automatically agree with it.
And there is something very, very dangerous happening when we pay more attention to the rage of a male in the life of a sexual assault victim than to the person who actually experienced the sexual assault.
Aly Rustom
Any father will stand with Margraves on this one brother. Don't need to have a girl to sympathize.
quercetum
And 147 years would?
lostrune2
Ya know who didn't believe one of the girls back then too?
"Meridian Police to publicly apologize to Larry Nasser accuser for not believing her in 2004, when she was 17"
http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/01/31/police-to-apologize-to-larry-nasser-accuser-for-not-believing-her-in-2004-when-she-was-17/
And that's why victim girls are afraid they won't be believed against powerful people
katsu78
I honestly can't say for certain. I've known sexual assault victims who express great relief knowing their attacker recieved a just sentence and is locked away, but we'd have to ask the girls he assaulted to know for sure.
katsu78
Well said, I agree.
When it's a coach, you support vigilante violence that violates the due process of the court, but when it's a Republican candidate from Alabama, you don't even want people to vote against the child abuser. Why is that?
worthless
I find nothing praiseworthy about assaulting someone in a courtroom. Margraves disrupted proceedings for his own reasons.
Wolfpack
Margraves was justifiably angry. A parents job is protect their children. If I were in his shoes I would have felt that I failed in my basic responsibility to my family. I don’t blame him one bit for going after him when he had a chance. But the judge should have given him some form of punishment beyond a token gesture. The reason there is a judicial system is to provide dispassionate justice in our behalf.
katsu78
Yes, it's not. Especially when members of the Internet peanut gallery hold a double standard regarding the rule of law depending on if they get a political advantage by ignoring the crimes committed against you.
There's no getting around it: you support vigilantism when the perp isn't a part of your political tribe and demand no one hold any opinion when the perp is a part of your political tribe.
And what's worrying about that to me is that if you can hold that double-standard, I have to question whether you actually care that much about victims of sexual assault. Because a person can't be said to really care too much about sexual assault victims if they are willing to slander them just to get a political advantage. So that leaves me to question, if you don't really care about victims of sexual assault, what's driving your violent fantasies to quote "crush this guys [sic] neck"?
Serrano
Anyone with feelings will stand with Mr. Margraves on this one.
KnowBetter
I understand why they keep going through the motions and tacking on more and more years when clearly after 70 years it won't matter to Nassar but it does at least give each person that suffered at his hands, some sort of closure.
The sad part is that I highly doubt that Nassar will actually live long enough in jail to really suffer for the hell he put all those girls through. If only those in jail could restrain themselves.
kurisupisu
The accused should 'never' be released-a danger to society!
mmwkdw
Medical examinations of young Girls by a Male Doctor without a Female Nurse being present.... ? Something should be changed.
albaleo
No, he's not. By his own words, he failed his daughter. His behavior was understandable but wrong. He seems to admit that himself, for which I respect him.
I agree. I wonder whether whether the girls were more affected by the sexual assault or that no one believed them. I'm saddened by people suggesting that violent criminals in prison will give Nassar his just reward. Why do I suspect they would also be among those who wouldn't have listened to the girls in the first place?
clamenza
as much as I wish Margraves was given his moral right to settle things with Nassar, prison life will be hellish and short for Nassar. He will be treated for what he is; the lowest of the low.
He will get the justice he deserves.
Nadège
If women were put in charge of girl instead of a male that train them like men, this would not happened.
Luddite
What on earth are you talking about. On several occasions he abused girls when their mothers were in the room.
quercetum
Medieval forms of punishment can be brought back for this case.
bones
Let’s just hope he goes to general population in prison and the inmates get the details on what he did and the guards get distracted while it’s chow or shower time...
robert maes
I would do what that father did, but i can not help but thinking, there was a lot of attention seeking her from the father. His questions to the judge were childish and this was not in a rage , he planned it.
If really in a rage , a spur of the moment, I am totally with him. If he planned it, also with him, but you don't forewarn judge and security by those questions.
This man wanted attention, it does not exclude that he also wanted to avenge his children, rightly so. No, we should not accept everything There are limits to what is endurable and if my wife would get raped, I will not to court, because the law does not provide justice anymore in most cases. Luckily it does in this case. But, anyone touch my wife or son, or my dogs for that matter, I will go after myself.
bass4funk
The man is a hero, the bailiffs should have let him go. Can’t blame him, I would have done the same.
YuriOtani
The father should serve some time in jail. It is bad to allow violence in a court of law. Not serving time shows it is allowable for people to take the law in their own hands. The doctor is headed for a lifetime of solitary confinement for his protection. He will be in a cell by himself for 23 hours a day with some time outside of it. The doctor is being punished and the father allowed his emotions to overrule his intelligence.
Slickdrifter
@Daniel Naumoff. ?????
Please sir go on an elaborate on your last.
Dads with children can understand this mans anguish.
I stand with Nassar. Way to go Dad.
toshiko
No one oposiing 175 years sentencing.
bass4funk
If there is hard evidence supporting the allegation then you can make a judgement, if not and you condemn someone based on emotion is grossly irresponsible, that’s a fact, especially if the perceived crime took place 4 decades ago and then to continue me out during a serious election and you have multiple accusers come out exactly the same time. Highly suspicious.
Not at all. I just don’t believe and would never just accept someone’s word especially after such a length of time without a shred of evidence and multiple people claiming the same thing, why did they wait so long, why did some of them embellished and tweaked their stories? I am not calling them liars, but it is very suspicious that so many came out at the same time, now if you want to blindly accuse someone based on zero tangible evidence then that’s your prerogative, I don’t and would never do that. I’m cautious, always have been and always will be. This case is very different as there was enough tangible evidence to go by, so once again, good on the father for what he tried to do.
I’m not double-standard in any way.
I do, I’m just not a dumb fool.
Like I said, you can believe what you want and so shall I. You believe in condemning someone without a shred of evidence, I don’t.
I do care, that’s why I’m on the fathers side.
toshiko
Police started believing girls an victims now, The swimming coachs for. girls are arrested now .
macv
prison will take very good care of him some things in USA still work
bass4funk
First of all, there was tangible evidence, DNA and over 100 witnesses, so what Nasser did is totally verifiable and irrefutable and as a father, yes, I would crush this guys neck. And as he said in court to the judge, what would you have done?
Different, we are talking about something that allegedly happened 40 years ago, so who knows? None of us were there, so because a few women said it happened, we have to blindly believe them, what evidence, why now make a claim during a heated election campaign so suddenly? When you factor in all of these details, the wise thing and responsible thing to do is proceed with extreme caution. Taking someone on about an alleged crime that possibly happened 40 years ago is not an easy thing to do, not to mention some of the witnesses where shown to have stretched the truth and even lied. so it’s not the same thing.
Daniel Naumoff
It is not anyhow your fault, Randall. It is the system and society you happened to be born in...