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Trump 4th U.S. president to face impeachment as Democrats unveil charges

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He will be impeached, however unless a miracle somehow happens during the trial in the senate, odds of him being convicted remain sadly slim!

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That's true.

But at least his legacy has been brought in line with his actions.

He's getting impeached because he's incompetent.

And Republicans claim they are for taking responsibility.

Yeah right, what a joke.

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He’s getting impeached because his own appointees have testified to impeachable offenses regarding Ukraine. That and he’s incompetent, yes. The GOP defending him are thoroughly despicable, so this won’t go anywhere as far as removal. But I haven’t given up on Americans in general, yet, and he will not win re-election next year. I do not believe there is a majority of American voters in the swing states willing to reward this clown with another term.

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He’s getting impeached because his own appointees have testified to impeachable offenses regarding Ukraine

Trumpophiles refuse to accept this. All they have as a defense is denigration; they can never point to any facts or evidence. It won’t be long before the usual suspects are here renegotiating the Democrats instead of defending Donny with actual evidence.

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This is good news for Trump supporters.

The more the Dems focus on this circus, the greater the chances of Trump’s re-election.

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Good

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Regarding the trial in the Senate:

If Republicans want defend Trump, good.

They have no game for decades.

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This is good news for Trump supporters.

Because it demonstrates they care more about power than our country. What country are you from? Your slavish support of Donny would be odd if you’re not American. Your constant disparagement of the US would be odd if you are American.

The more the Dems focus on this circus, the greater the chances of Trump’s re-election

Curcus is a strange euphemism for ensuring the integrity of our democratic republic.

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Good news for MAGA2020. The more the Dems push forward with this charade, the stronger he becomes for reelection. Loving it!

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Trump 4th U.S. president to face impeachment as Democrats unveil charges

May the farce be with you

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Strangerland

Trump is getting impeached because he abused used the power of the presidency for his benefit and the detriment of the America.

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A blind man can see that this joke of a President is guilty as charged.  And what a sad indictment on America that it is a forgone conclusion that the Republicans will say "not guilty" in the face of compelling evidence that say's otherwise.  How shallow these Republican senators are, that they will sell out the Constitution of their homeland for political and self serving reasons.  They are beyond the pale.

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Sadly Trump does not seem to care one bit either way! He comes across as if this is something to be proud of!

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So we're back to Pubs claiming this will help Trump in 2020.

They just expose their priority as party over the people.

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Trump is getting impeached because he abused used the power of the presidency for his benefit and the detriment of the America.

Yeah, pure and utter incompetence.

A competent president never would have done it.

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A competent president never would have done it.

A competent president wouldn't have gotten caught! In my mind, I dont think that there is any former president, looking to be reelected or otherwise, that wouldn't go to extremes to find dirt on his opponents.

Trump is just too damn stupid to understand the difference between what he as president can do and can not, and is trying to run it like it was his own private business.

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A blind man can see that this joke of a President is guilty as charged. And what a sad indictment on America that it is a forgone conclusion that the Republicans will say "not guilty" in the face of compelling evidence that say's otherwise. 

As you say, it is obvious that he is guilty - the evidence is irrefutable. What is tragic is not that the elected politicians support him (they would, wouldn't they?), but the ordinary voters who must know that he is guilty but either lie to themselves that he isn't, or simply don't care that he did it, because what Donny does is right, whatever the law says.

It is tragic that society has come to this level, and the political environment brought so low and so degraded. These people are victims of the society that made Trump a viable politician.

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All to be expected. Immediately after the FBI report was released Trump went back to one of his oldest chestnuts. That Obama spied upon him. This is a familiar tactic of a man who loves to keep the chestnuts moving while you are still trying to point out the pea on the table. Never, as in never, let reality emerge; keep the game going with one misdirection technique after another. That way the brain dead in his base will never ever catch up but just keep rolling along with him in his own alternate reality universe where up is down, white is black and truth is fantasy. And, Fox and Friends are always there to help out. 

I heard one talking head yesterday say he put out over one hundred tweets on Sunday. For a man who is , obviously, not in the best of physical condition his fingers must be in great shape. Oh, if he only had a brain and sense of decency to match.

The senate may never convict comrade trump but his legacy will always be impeachment.

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Trump is the 4th President facing impeachment. But he is the first president facing impeachment for political reason, fear of his second term victory, hatred and resentment because opposition candidate failed in the people's choice. Happened to be a majority in the congress. It is a sad history for US. worst than a under-developed, barbaric nation's politics. More over it is a coup. Going to fail. Sure it will be thrown to waste bin in the senate. It will end up like a masturbation of democrats. and the fake media groups. Hope they will have a limited time enjoyment.

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1 Resolved That Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors

Any actual evidence of these crimes? No? Well, let's impeach him anyway!

The effort to force Trump out of the White House faces long odds of success.

Long odds indeed. They might be able to get that RINO Romney to vote to convict him, but that's about it as far as getting Republicans to vote to convict. Ain't gonna be no two-thirds of the Senate voting to convict.

This is a sad day for America and the Democratic Party.

Trump 2020 all the way.

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The GOP's best chance to avoid impeachment is to not elect documented con men to the presidency in the first place.

They did this to themselves.

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Trump is the 3rd President. Not 4th. You can't include Nixon. He was never impeached and Congress was never given the time to come together to discuss impeaching Nixon. Its just assumed that he would have been impeached.

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SerranoToday  07:49 am JST

Any actual evidence of these crimes?

None that you'll ever accept.

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Trump is the 3rd President. Not 4th. You can't include Nixon. He was never impeached and Congress was never given the time to come together to discuss impeaching Nixon. Its just assumed that he would have been impeached.

The house judiciary committee started the inquiry process, and when that happened, Nixon did the honorable thing and resigned before putting the country through the process of a full impeachment proceeding.

"Tricky" Dick may have been an arsehole too, but at least he saved the country the pain and embarrassment of the impeachment process.

I actually remember that incident quite well!

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Any actual evidence of these crimes?

None that you'll ever accept.

I don't accept BS, and the majority of American voters aren't going to accept it either in 2020.

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Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize, Trump gets impeachment.

Winners stick with with winners and losers stick with losers.

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Super: You’re really turning the knife today.

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This hopefully will be his legacy.

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To the democrats, these are the "crimes" The President committed:

Article 1 – Donald Trump won the 2016 election

Article 2 – See Article 1

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what happened to “bribery”? That was just a focus group for TV huh?

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This impeachment is going to be great. Whistleblower, both Bidens, Schiff, Chalupa.

plus Chuckie Schumer forbid the Dem senators to campaign during it. They have to sit there and say nothing all day long 6 days a week. Bloomberg might win just by not being a Senator.

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odds of him being convicted remain sadly slim!

Just replace "sadly" with "fortunately" and ye got it right! And "slim" is pushing it, it's virtually zero.

Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize,

For nothing. Go figure.

Trump gets impeachment.

For making America great again. Go figure.

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he more the Dems focus on this circus,

and its ringmaster Trump, the more examples of Trump shown to sell out his country - of birth - are shown, the more examples of Trump's ineptitude and self-serving greed, the more examples of Trump ripping off the taxpaying public to fund his golf outings that profit his properties, among other 'mores'

the more Americans will say enough is too much and be willing to vote for anyone other than the serial conman Trump. And the global elite backers paying to keep him in office.

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what happened to “bribery”? That was just a focus group for TV huh?

Perhaps. Do you have any comment on the actual articles of impeachment, or are you just whining that a word wasn’t used by the biased, liberal MSM?

This impeachment is going to be great. Whistleblower, both Bidens, Schiff, Chalupa.

You mean the trial. Accuracy, Blacklab. Those people can just ignore the subpoenas like Donny’s people did. Why would your rules not apply to the other team?

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Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize, Trump gets impeachment.

Winners stick with with winners and losers stick with losers.

The world loved Obama, and openly mocks and laughs at Trump.

You're so right.

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Now that the Trumpophiles are here with their what’s ours, falsehoods, conspiracy theories, and logic failures; it’s time for me to take my leave for a spell.

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A word wasn’t used as an article if impeachment. The main word you pushed for the entire period of testimony. Why?

Perhaps. Do you have any comment on the actual articles of impeachment, or are you just whining that a word wasn’t used by the biased, liberal MSM?

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First, none of those people have executive privilege. Second I don’t think you can ignore a subpoena for a “trial”. Third, unlike you, we can wait for a ruling by judicial to force them to appear. Fun times!

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It’s really quite simple. The Republicans will keep protecting Trump for a bigger goal of stamping Republicans values on the U.S. for decades long after Trump has won a second term. And that is waiting out Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s term and appointing a conservative replacement to the Supreme Court. Then with a firm conservative majority on the Supreme Court, the GOP will always be in Nirvana!

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This is serious business . . . not to be taken lightly. House Speaker was saying the other day the President was unethically involved with Russia!

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Will Nunes be testifying as to why he was talking on the phone with Parnas, the indicted Ukrainian that Rudy was using to dig up dirt on Biden?

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Unfortunately there is no chance of this succeeding and it's only going to hurt the dems. It reinforces Trump supporter views that the establishment is out to get him and after years of talking about impeachment they go after something that looks like they're desperate to do it before the election. Since he won't get convicted, he'll go into 2020 with very strong momentum, the Democrats will look like fools, and I fear that a lot of moderates will be turned off from them due to this whole circus.

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Mr President, you have been served.

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Thank you Democrats, you have just given new life and another term of 4 years to this President.

53% approval over the economy

52% of independents disapprove

47% overall split within the country pretty much evenly on impeachment.

Add to that a 3.5% unemployment rate.

USMCA passed (thanks Nancy) another win for the President.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/public_approval_of_the_impeachment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html

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SerranoToday  08:03 am JST

I don't accept BS...

What, you think anyone who isn't in the cult of Trump accepts your "greatest president in history... Trump landslide in 2020... etc etc..." stuff?

...and the majority of American voters aren't going to accept it either in 2020.

Given that the majority of American voters chose someone else in 2016 and appear to favour impeachment it's hard to imagine where such confidence comes from so I'll put that down to wishful thinking.

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What, you think anyone who isn't in the cult of Trump accepts your "greatest president in history... Trump landslide in 2020... etc etc..." stuff?

Well, when it comes to the economy, the numbers don’t lie and the Dems can’t even come close to touching the President or even making or persuading the opposite, unless they want to get laughed out into oblivion.

Given that the majority of American voters chose someone else in 2016

Ok, ok, we don’t go by the popularity vote in the US. We go by the Electoral College.

and appear to favour impeachment it's hard to imagine where such confidence comes from so I'll put that down to wishful thinking.

But he won’t be removed or convicted, so the Dems essentially helped this President win another term! Yippie!

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Well, when it comes to the economy, the numbers don’t lie

No, they don’t. Neither does the soaring debt.

When are the fiscal conservatives going to hold this impeached, big spender to account? Why is he piling on debt while the economy is good?

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No, they don’t. Neither does the soaring debt. 

Yeah, tell the economists, Amazon and every major retailer that and they’ll laugh every liberal out of the room.

When are the fiscal conservatives going to hold this impeached, big spender to account? Why is he piling on debt while the economy is good?

Don’t worry when the Democrats get into power one day in the far, far, far distant future don’t drive it up even further with the socialist programs and I don’t know about you but in my country we do tend to like a strong military.

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Madden: It reinforces Trump supporter views that the establishment is out to get him

Sure, that's a part of Trump's base, but it's not like we can coax millions of undereducated conspiracy nuts out of the basement and clean them up overnight. They are stuck in their own hell and no, we aren't going to let a con man president advertise he's for sale just because we can't change the mind of conspiracy loonies overnight.

Heck, some of them, including one here, still doesn't believe Obama was born here. Should we cater to that, too? I think you'll agree we shouldn't.

and after years of talking about impeachment they go after something that looks like they're desperate

You might think trying to hold a President accountable for breaking his oath and obstructing justice is just an act of desperation, but to others, myself included, we need to send the right message. Again, just because we can't straighten out the lives of losers in a short amount of time doesn't mean we should cater to their desire to let a corrupt President off the hook.

Since he won't get convicted

It's the GOP's choice to let a guilty man go free and I want them to sign their names to it. They will be judged harshly for it, especially with the next generation of voters.

he'll go into 2020 with very strong momentum

No, he won't. He doesn't accomplish anything except slowing down a growing economy that he inherited with spastic trade wars. Wanna know how much the stock market has gone up in the last two years after tax cuts and lower interest rates? Less than 1,800 points. Pitiful.

Just like his Daddy's money would have been worth more if Trump had put it in the stock market, Trump should have done nothing at all and the gains would have been greater.

Oh, and he's accomplished nothing. That, too. China, North Korea, Iran, the Middle East, the wall, the environment, healthcare, all losing bets on Trump with no end in sight.

the Democrats will look like fools

The higher you go up the education ladder, the more left you lean.

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SerranoToday  08:03 am JST

Any actual evidence of these crimes?

As if on cue, the daily Trumper refrain of "what's the crime" and the daily answer;

52 U.S. Code 30121; Contributions and donations by foreign nationals, which prohibits "solicitation" a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election. 

They'll ignore it and ask the same question tomorrow...along with more of their other delusions and fairy tales.

Yesterday was a very bad day for Donnie and his supporters - their fairy tale world came crashing down;

No evidence of political bias by FBI or DOJ in investigation of Russian links to Trump, No "spying" on his campaign, no wiretaps, no informants, Page and Strzok had no influence on the investigation, The Steele dossier was not used to request the FISA warrants - in fact, it was not yet given to the FBI when the warrants were requested...

All disproved by a member of their own team - their IG.

But the truth hurts, so they ignore it and continue plying their falsehoods - just like Donnie's mentor Putin does...

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Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, a leading figure in Clinton's impeachment, warned that Democrats were setting a dangerous precedent.

"Future Congresses will inevitably make impeachment a political tool to be used anytime a President of the opposing party occupies the White House," he said in a statement.

Elected Democrats have set a brand new precedent for future impeachment "inquisitions". Politically-based judgments by the majority party will be turning over U.S. governments faster than your average parliamentary systems.

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Trump is the first president to face an attempted coup.

Comey came out claiming victory but even he didn’t defend the Steel dossier- the Hillary funded and foreign written insurance policy meant to at first prevent Trumps election and later to perpetuate the Russia hoax. Comey is in serious jeopardy of being prosecuted for signing off on false FISA warrants long after he knew the Steele dossier was a partisan opposition research document. Barr and Durham are going to begin laying out the case and it isn’t going to look pretty for the opposition party. In the end you will probably even have Dem Senators voting to acquit.

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to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election. 

So what was the express or implied promise that Trump supposedly made? Didn’t see that in the call transcript.

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Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, a leading figure in Clinton's impeachment, warned that Democrats were setting a dangerous precedent.

"Future Congresses will inevitably make impeachment a political tool to be used anytime a President of the opposing party occupies the White House," he said in a statement.

Elected Democrats have set a brand new precedent for future impeachment "inquisitions". Politically-based judgments by the majority party will be turning over U.S. governments faster than your average parliamentary systems.

You mean good 'ole Lindsey who said this in 2016?

"I not going to get into the head of Donald Trump because there's not a lot of space there.."

"I think he's a kook, I think he's crazy, I think he's unfit for office, and I'm a Republican and he's not"...

"Any person who says George Bush is responsible for 9/11 is not a Republican, they're an extremist, they're crazy"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKLO4lXYaGI

Yea, Lindsey sure calls them straight...nothing hypocritical about him...

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So what was the express or implied promise that Trump supposedly made? Didn’t see that in the call transcript.

Because you didn’t see the transcript; you saw a summary transcript. You did, however, hear from multiple other witnesses that that is exactly what Donny was doing.

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Trump is the first president to face an attempted coup.

That’s not how you spell impeachment.

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This is all just payback for Clinton being impeached. It has zero to do with Donny’s corruption!

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Trump is the 3rd President. Not 4th. You can't include Nixon. He was never impeached and Congress was never given the time to come together to discuss impeaching Nixon. Its just assumed that he would have been impeached.

Exactly. Even Reuter’s can’t get their facts straight, but I guess to a lemming, 4 looks better than 3, and yet they still don’t see the cliff the MSM is leading them to. LOL.

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Sure, that's a part of Trump's base, but it's not like we can coax millions of undereducated conspiracy nuts out of the basement and clean them up overnight. They are stuck in their own hell

What hell, according to the economy, most Americans think it’s getting close to heaven.

No, he won't.

He probably will and now looking at how this impeachment forest has been falling apart it seems like more and more people are coming his way and then you look at his rallies none of these democrat candidates can get anywhere close to that and especially now the Democrat party is full of old white people, where is there a diversity that is so probably claim.

He doesn't accomplish anything

over 280 accomplishments and add the USMCA to that list.

https://jimbakkershow.com/news/president-donald-trumps-accomplishments-the-list-is-growing/

The economy is roaring, there isn’t a single socialist can can veer people to their dark side.

Oh, and he's accomplished nothing. That, too. China, North Korea, Iran, the Middle East, the wall, the environment, healthcare, all losing bets on Trump with no end in sight.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/border-wall-going-up-south-texas/

As far as China that will eventually happen as well since both sides are hurting from it as for Iran in the Middle East you can blame that on the last three administrations and Trump is trying to get us out of it, but it seems like the Washington swamp wants to keep us in it and especially with the report that came out yesterday we know that the establishment are a bunch of liars, as far as the environment is concerned Bloomberg will take care of that and when talking about the healthcare, what are the Dems doing about it? Oh, that’s right, they’re doing nothing about it. They’re too busy trying to impeach this president.

The higher you go up the education ladder, the more left you lean.

...and then once you get older and come to your senses and realize do you have bills to pay and a family to take care of you swing conservative.

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This is all just payback for Clinton being impeached. It has zero to do with Donny’s corruption.

Yes, and I’m making him stronger with the stupid farce just like with Clinton.

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It is unclear whether Trump himself will testify...

No. It's not unclear. It is quite clear: Trump is a coward so dishonest of himself that he never does things personally. He employees minions, many of whom are currently imprisoned.

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The more the Dems focus on this circus

Calling this impeachment a circus is an insult to circuses. It's despicable.

Hey anti-Trumpers - watch this! Tee hee!

Trump holds rally in Pennsylvania after Dems unveil impeachment articles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJt_3CCPWTo

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Demos are crying that President Trump is not above law. But they lapped Biden, Sir. Biden is above the law. No law above him, If you want to become above the law then do two things. Join the democrats, be an ex-vice president. Second be a candidate for the US election with democratic party ticket. Bingo! you are above the law..

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The obstruction charge is dead-on-arrival. There are still three branches of government in the U.S.. Elected Democrats would like the voters to believe that anyone who receives a subpoena from the U.S. House is no longer entitled to the usual legal protections, or rules of law. Since there is very little existing impeachment law, there will be many new situations that require a court's ruling, but only if the majority party intends to treat the defendants fairly. Of course, that's not a problem with the current crop of Hillary-worshiping Democrats.

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Demos are crying that President Trump is not above law. But they lapped Biden, Sir. Biden is above the law. No law above him, If you want to become above the law then do two things. Join the democrats, be an ex-vice president. Second be a candidate for the US election with democratic party ticket. Bingo! you are above the law..

Amusing! Since when are the actions of the sons and daughters of politicians who may or may not have been thrown a job or two because of their daddy or mommy’s position in the WH? If so, all of Trump’s spawn and Guilliani, and Barr’s spawn would also be in jail! I think there should be a law prohibiting the children of politicians benefiting financially, but this is so case by case. Some children are just bright and well connected—not Trumps. But Biden has to go, this Hunter Biden gig is the same nonsense as Hillary’s emails. It won’t go away and will be parroted for 20 more years, mindlessly.

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Trump is a coward so dishonest of himself that he never does things personally.

So that’s what the liberal surrogate establishment pundit lemmings on TV keep telling you?

He employees minions, many of whom are currently imprisoned.

Which has nothing to do with him and all the more reason why the Democrats keep trying and they keep failing, these people were never the goal to get locked out, it was always the president they wanted to get and they will continue to fail

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The more the Dems focus on this circus

Calling this impeachment a circus is an insult to circuses. It's despicable.

And it's despicable what Donnie has done to to the term "witch hunt"...I mean, what an insult to Ivanka...

Hey anti-Trumpers - watch this! Tee hee!

We had a similar saying to this when I was in the military - "Hey Carl, watch this!"... It was about this time that the APC turned over.

Comey came out claiming victory but even he didn’t defend the Steel dossier- the Hillary funded and foreign written insurance policy meant to at first prevent Trumps election and later to perpetuate the Russia hoax. Comey is in serious jeopardy of being prosecuted for signing off on false FISA warrants long after he knew the Steele dossier was a partisan opposition research document. Barr and Durham are going to begin laying out the case and it isn’t going to look pretty for the opposition party. In the end you will probably even have Dem Senators voting to acquit.

Here's a perfect example of what I was saying earlier - even though debunked in the Horowitz report, Trumpers keep on flogging the same old dead horses. Horowitz clearly said the Steele dossier was NOT used to request the initial FISA warrants - in fact, the FBI didn't even have the dossier when starting the investigation.

But they ignore that because it makes their heads explode and continue to foster the same old lies and fabrications.

Sick and weak - just like their craven House counterparts Devin "Let's call Parnas" Nunes, and Jim "I have OCD" Jordan...

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Trump is the first president to face an attempted coup.

The above is the alt right's oft parroted perspective.

Another is Trump's the first president LEADING A COUP, the first to attempt to undermine the Constitution (see attacks on separation and balance of power, attacks on congress and the courts); attack and undermine a free, for-profit press; accept and approve 'meddling' from foreign powers; allow his family to get richer by using his office.

And his coup has the financial backing of the globe's elite, aka the establishment, especially those in big banking, big oil and big defense, all getting richer and more powerful during Trump's reign.

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Good news for MAGA2020. The more the Dems push forward with this charade, the stronger he becomes for reelection. Loving it!

your making it sound like all those who voted for trump will stick with him, afterall his corruption and those around him that have been imprisoned because of that corruption. and many people that voted against Trump will suddenly change their minds. history has shown the higher the voter turnout the higher the chance of a democrat POTUS. Im guessing 2020 will see a larger voter turnout

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Demos are crying that President Trump is not above law. But they lapped Biden, Sir. Biden is above the law. No law above him

I wasn't aware of any legitimate proof of Bidens crimes, if the Rethuglicons have concrete evidence that will hold up in a US court and not some manufactured evidence they think will fool a US judge/jury then show us what you have, anything else is just hearsay and conspiracies

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Yes, and I’m making him stronger with the stupid farce just like with Clinton.

and how you making Trump stronger, you can only vote once

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You did, however, hear from multiple other witnesses that that is exactly what Donny was doing.

None were first hand witnesses - would you like to be convicted of a crime on hearsay?

That’s not how you spell impeachment.

No, it isn’t. A coup is a coup. Walls closing in on Comey and his biased lackeys. After Trump is exonerated the rest of the year leading up to the election will be about corruption in the Obama administrations FBI.

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"No one, not even the president, is above the law," Nadler said at a news conference. 

This is funny. It's like the Democrats decided to adopt every stupid idea the Republicans have ever had and build a platform around it.

Impeachment that nobody outside our political faithfuls cares about? Check.

Pompous and transparent moralizing posturing? Check.

Anti-Russia hysteria? Check.

Reintroduce dead absolutist concepts like treason and traitor? Check

We are watching the Democratic party eating itself alive. Best case. Worst case, they are creating a new generation of intolerant fascists with no respect for justice.

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The integrity of our elections would be shattered, and we would never again have a legitimate president — a president, who, whether or not you liked him or her, was at least seen as legitimately elected. That would be a prescription for permanent political chaos, as no future presidents’ authority would be respected if they were elected on the basis of foreign interference.

But that is what Republicans are courting by blindly defending Trump’s indefensible enlistment of Ukraine’s help to take down Biden and by echoing Trump’s conspiracy theory — originated by Russian agents — that it was Ukraine that hacked the Democratic National Committee’s emails in 2016, not Russia. They also argue that the D.N.C.’s server was shipped off to Ukraine before the F.B.I. could look at it. This is right out of “The Twilight Zone.”

Folks, can you imagine what Russia’s President Putin is saying to himself today? “I can’t believe my luck! I not only got Trump to parrot my conspiracy theories, I got his whole party to do it! And for free! Who ever thought Americans would so easily sell out their own Constitution for one man? My God, I have Russian lawmakers in my own Parliament who’d quit before doing that. But it proves my point: America is no different from Russia, so spare me the lectures.”

If Congress were to do what Republicans demand — forgo impeaching this president for enlisting a foreign power to get him elected, after he refused to hand over any of the documents that Congress had requested and blocked all of his key aides who knew what happened from testifying — we would be saying that a president is henceforth above the law.

We would be saying that we no longer have three coequal branches of government. We would be saying that we no longer have a separation of powers. We would be saying that our president is now a king.

Conservative NYT Columnist Tom Friedman
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wtfjapan - I wasn't aware of any legitimate proof of Bidens crimes,

Maybe you missed the video of old Biden bragging about how he quashed the Ukrainian investigation into Burisma Holdings Ltd. I guess nobody is above the law unless you're Obama's VP, and trying to protect your son's employer from investigation.

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Is that the video Rudy shot in Ukraine in an effort to exculpate (look it up) Trump with the assistance of ex-prosecutor Lutsenko and the others who lost their jobs when Selensky started cleaning house?

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Impeachment that nobody outside our political faithfuls cares about? Check.

Yes, because corruption is defined by how many people care, right?

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Yes, because corruption is defined by how many people care, right?

People don't care because they see no corruption, or see a sea of corruption and can't see why this most insignificant transgression is singled out while much worse is and always has been ignored. So we are back to number 2 on my list: moral posturing.

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this most insignificant transgression is singled out while much worse is and always has been ignored

Okay, what do you think Trump has done which is much worse and has been ignored?

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It's a wonderful Xmas present, for sure. The tinsel on top is the amount of MAGA-vision goggles flying off the shelves.

How else can the Trump cult see this as a coup?

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Here's a perfect example of what I was saying earlier - even though debunked in the Horowitz report, Trumpers keep on flogging the same old dead horses.

Naw, we’re just patient that Durham has a bigger and wider jurisdiction to really dig deeper into this.

*Horowitz clearly said the Steele dossier was NOT used to request the initial FISA warrants - in fact, the FBI didn't even have the dossier when starting the investigation. *

Durham stated something different...

“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”

But they ignore that because it makes their heads explode

Seems like liberals heads are exploding that Barr and Durham going to take their time in uncovering which seems to be the FBI spying on Trump.

and continue to foster the same old lies and fabrications. 

Seems like the FBI are supporting their own lies and the Dems, the people that used to hate the Feds are now lovers of the FBI....huh...

Sick and weak - just like their craven House counterparts Devin "Let's call Parnas" Nunes, and Jim "I have OCD" Jordan...

I’m just happy that we now have 4 more years of Trump, just wonder how the Dems will handle it.

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If WH witnesses could exonerate Trump, why aren’t they being allowed to testify or provide documents? If the Hunter Biden "scandal" was really as they claim, why was it not an issue until his dad launched his presidential bid?

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It was an issue as early as 2015, per George Kent testimony. there were also media reports in 2016. Not like Obama admin was gonna take and action against the kid of their own VP.

If the Hunter Biden "scandal" was really as they claim, why was it not an issue until his dad launched his presidential bid?

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snore fest the impeachment has NO chance in succeeding, just a very desperate Democrat party

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Black SabbathToday 07:16 am JSTStrangerland

Trump is getting impeached because he abused used the power of the presidency for his benefit and the detriment of the America.

I barely remember Nixon but he resigned, implying his guilt - and he was caught on tape red-handed. Clinton was impeached for something stupid that Newt Gingrich and other Congressmen have admitted to and / or have been caught doing themselves.

Donald Trump has been committing impeachable offenses every single day since Putin put him in the WH. He is far worse than Nixon and Clinton combined, many times over - exponentially.

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Here's a perfect example of what I was saying earlier - even though debunked in the Horowitz report, Trumpers keep on flogging the same old dead horses.

Naw, we’re just patient that Durham has a bigger and wider jurisdiction to really dig deeper into this.

Uh-huh, that's what you said about Horowitz until he blew all your nut-job conspiracy theories out of the water..

Horowitz clearly said the **Steele dossier was NOT used to request the initial FISA warrants **- in fact, the FBI didn't even have the dossier when starting the investigation. 

Durham stated something different...

Durham said nothing that contradicts what Horowitz said about the Steele dossier - that it was not used as part of the FISA process. Sorry - that one's debunked...

But they ignore that because it makes their heads explode

Seems like liberals heads are exploding that Barr and Durham going to take their time in uncovering which seems to be the FBI spying on Trump.

Really? Given Barr has Crazy Rudy under criminal investigation for 8 different charges, seems like he'll have something to say about that too. Wonder what will happen to Donnie's head when Rudy's indicted?

and continue to foster the same old lies and fabrications. 

Seems like the FBI are supporting their own lies and the Dems, the people that used to hate the Feds are now lovers of the FBI....huh...

What? Horowitz just exonerated the FBI. Just another example of Trumpers denying reality...

Sick and weak - just like their craven House counterparts Devin "Let's call Parnas" Nunes, and Jim "I have OCD" Jordan...

I’m just happy that we now have 4 more years of Trump, just wonder how the Dems will handle it.

Four more years...that sounds like Manafort, Stone, soon Gates and Flynn...

And once Bolton tells us all about the "drug deal", and Rudy opens up about his "insurance policy", POTUS 45 will then become Inmate 45...

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snore fest the impeachment has NO chance in succeeding, just a very desperate Democrat party

I sometimes feel that some people aren't watching the same reports, reading the same reports or aren't even aware of the same reports that the rest of us are.

Trump is being investigated on numerous fronts, this is only the (most high profile) tip of the iceberg.

His blinding stupidity and endless gaslighting can only go so far before justice is eventually served.

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Clinton was impeached for

....perjuring himself, huge difference and he was on videotape doing it and their were 11 felony counts against him and he lost his law license. If it were just sex, you might have a point.

Donald Trump has been committing impeachable offenses every single day since Putin puthim in the WH. He is far worse than Nixon and Clinton combined, many times over -exponentially.

Ok, so where’s the proof?

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I sometimes feel that some people aren't watching the same reports, reading the same reports or aren't even aware of the same reports that the rest of us are.

Yes.

Trump is being investigated on numerous fronts, this is only the (most high profile) tip of the iceberg. 

Ok, but he won’t be convicted and removed and re-elected, so the purpose of this farce was for....

His blinding stupidity and endless gaslighting can only go so far before justice is eventually served.

Huh? Based on what? If you want to see stupidity in motion, look at Schiff.

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He thinks FOX screwed him:Trump enraged at FOX, his impeachment bulwark

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Then the Democrats basically shot themselves in the foot when it comes to the rule of law and are in no position to even impeach the President if you look at it from that viewpoint.

This is the tired, fake narrative being peddled by Trumpists, that the impeachment process is somehow unlawful.

what bigotry

Again with the disingenuous question. This has been answered on an almost daily basis for several years now. Trump's racism is well documented, recorded and reported on. Not my fault if Trumpists ignore it or are too lazy to do the research. Myself and many posters have done the research, we've seen the videos, we've given the links, the citations, the quoted... and all for Trumpists to routinely dismiss it.

That's why Trump's followers aren't taken seriously.

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*Donald Trump has been committing impeachable offenses every single day since Putin put him in the WH.*

Gosh, starpunk, even Pelosi doesn't claim that, she's just claiming this one phone call is impeachable.

And, oh yeah, even after two and a half years and $40M, Mueller couldn't come up with any evidence that Putin put Trump in the White House.

Oh my...

Senator Barrasso: They don't have the evidence and they don't have public support

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBjcO9SEB5c

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I think this guy knows what he be talkin' about. Oh my...

Former Whitewater Independent Counsel Robert Ray: Neither impeachment article is a high crime or misdemeanor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYGpGPwOlwA&list=WL&index=3&t=0s

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