U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy

More correct:

a formal impeachment inquiry into U.S. President Donald Trump U.S. President Donald Trump over reports he

ONCE AGAIN

sought foreign help to smear a political rival

Good. Make Republicans sign their names to supporting a corrupt President. It will be there forever

Trump's done a good job of dodging bullets do far in his presidency, but one of them is going to get him right between the eyes.

But, Biden! And Hillary! And Obama! Globalists and damned open-border dems.

Mic. Drop.

Time to go GET HIM !!!

Any predictions on how the righties will somehow try to twist this into winning, and that it was actually ok because Trump?

On the news in my ride into work this AM Nancy Pelosi commented that the inquiry starting now, on this issue, is that it is the easiest one to explain to the American people. However, she also noted that once the process starts, it is not necessarily going to be limited to the Ukraine issue alone, as to her thinking, there are plenty of other issues that could be brought up as well.

Personally speaking, I wonder why it took so long. If it's about "explaining" it to the American people, she really is underestimating the ability of the people of the US to "understand" what the fruck is going on!

Get the popcorn! Always great entertainment, better than any Hollywood copy crap movie, watching a political party shoot themselves in the foot.

Yaaawn, ok, so we are here now, symbolic, the Senate will never convict him, but I get it, the Democrats need to get it off their chest especially with the sharks circling Hunter Biden and his dad and uncles shady Ukrainian business dealings. Go for it Democrats! ROFL!

Dems didn’t even wait to see a transcript. They are “all in” on the complaint they haven’t seen from an anonymous person who didn’t even hear the call first hand. Big mistake by the Dems, they took the bait.

Dems didn’t even wait to see a transcript. They are “all in” on the complaint they haven’t seen from an anonymous person who didn’t even hear the call first hand. Big mistake by the Dems, they took the bait.

This was the plan since the beginning, this was always the goal, not that it’ll get them anywhere, it’s all symbolic, but it’s still funny to watch though.

the Senate will never convict him

Because Moscow Mitch and the repubs are far more about their party than the integrity of our political system.

, but I get it, the Democrats need to get it off their chest especially with the sharks circling Hunter Biden and his dad and uncles shady Ukrainian business dealings.

Of which there is zero evidence. Your track record of predictions is poor at best. You've been randomly assuring us that Strzok and the Podestas would face indictments for how many years now?

We want a transcript! Fine, I will give you one. No, we want the complaint! Goalposts constantly shifting.

So how a specific person who didn’t hear the call interprets the transcript is more important than the direct words said?

This is just trying to undo 2016 election and fear that Dems can’t win 2020. Trump already has higher approval ratings than Obama did and this will just energize his support.

Dems didn’t even wait to see a transcript

Because of obstructionism by repubs. Given Donny can't control his mouth and has already admitted to pressuring the Ukraine to investigate Biden, we don't need to wait for transcripts.

I'm just glad they finally got it over with. This 'will they/wont they' nonsense was more of a waste of time than waiting for Ross and Rachel to hook up.

This is just trying to undo 2016 election and fear that Dems can’t win 2020. Trump already has higher approval ratings than Obama did and this will just energize his support.

Given the fact that you guys constantly live in the past, you must not have much confidence that Donny will make much of a showing next year.

Can’t even wait one day to see a transcript? Just shows it’s not even about this at all.

We want a transcript! Fine, I will give you one. No, we want the complaint! Goalposts constantly shifting.

Nope. It's called oversight, which the constitution grants congress over the president. Separation of Powers for Dummies.

@basfF but it’s still funny to watch though

Funny watching the US sink lower? I guess that's consistent with those who've said all along they want US systems brought down.

Actually “Donny” said he didn’t pressure them and Ukraine confirmed. Dont know how you got have missed those basic facts.

Can’t even wait one day to see a transcript? Just shows it’s not even about this at all.

Nope. Donny not being able to keep his mouth shut coupled with the refusal to produce the whistleblower complaint is why we aren't waiting for the transcript.

Reality clearly doesnt pierve the bubble.

Because Moscow Mitch and the repubs are far more about their party than the integrity of our political system.

As did the last administration under Harry Reid.

Of which there is zero evidence. Your track record of predictions is poor at best.

You've been randomly assuring us that Strzok and the Podestas would face indictments for how many years now?

No, it’s not actually, but to your point, the same will happen to Trump, nothing.

@blacklabActually “Donny” said

I stopped at 'said'. Only Trump's hardest core backers believe a single word coming from him.

Actually “Donny” said he didn’tpressure them and Ukraine confirmed. Dont know how you got have missed those basic facts.

Nope. I got the facts correct because I read multiple news sources, not just Fox "News" and Brietbart.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump ordered his staff to freeze nearly $400 million in aid to Ukraine a few days before a phone call in which he pressured the Eastern European nation's leader to investigate the family of political rival Joe Biden, a revelation that comes as more Democrats move toward impeachment proceedings.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/schumer-wants-senate-investigate-trump-143913961.html

Let me guess, the AP is a biased, liberal source.

Funny watching the US sink lower?

The US hit the Mariana Trench 8 years ago already bypassing OBL body.

I guess that's consistent with those who've said all along they want US systems brought down.

Dunno, looking at the economy, spending and the record profits retail outlets are making, the money flow says differently.

As did the last administration under Harry Reid.

Two wrongs make a right? Lmao! Is this all you have to defend Massacre Mitch's repugnance?

No, it’s not actually, but to your point, the same will happen to Trump, nothing

Sorry, I don't speak garble.

Nope. I got the facts correct because I read multiple news sources, not just Fox "News" and Brietbart.

Liberal sites you meant, which basically means more BS, but you can believe it if you wish. Lol

The Dems jumped the gun on this, even the whistleblower can’t recall the details of this call. Again, please go for it. The Dems are so greedy. This is fun or really funny to be more precise,

So the AP has a classified whistleblower report and a transcript of the call that Congress doesn’t even have?

or are they reporting their opinion based on what Dems have been screaming in TV?

Ah, so “no one is above the law!” But no need to even check out anything that Obama guy does because he is just so “enchanting” and wonderful.

First, it's probably because Obama wasn't operating in the gutter like Donny constantly had been since the 70s.

Oh no, It was definitely Putin who was promised flexibility. Without a doubt. The guy who said it should have received “oversight” and impeachment the moment that was said.

Instead, we waited until the next election and beat his chosen candidate. That’s how the USA works.

@blacklabEven a single word can’t be believed? Just shows how unreasonable some of you are

Pattern recognition. Key to survival. Anytime a known conman like Trump, someone who's told so many lies, says anything only fools and/or his true believers would trust what he says next.

no matter what he says or does or doesn’t say or doesn’t do, you just want him out.

Speaking for myself, I definitely do. I never wanted him 'in'. Since I first read about his self-promotions and disgusting lifestyle decades ago I've thought he was a repulsive individual. Since he's been in office my opinion of him is that he's even worse than I ever imagined. He's a disgrace to any political office.

Not Russia? Oh, I see, Ukraine! Right, facts... hahaha nice laugh ChipStar and friends. Thanks for guaranteeing Trump gets re-elected. You cannot win an election by simply not being the other guy, or by virtue of not being you! Your hero Clinton proved that point. 

Unlike the AOC or Greta crowd, reasonable people who want to continue living in our current record level of high standard of living without fear mongering, power grabbing politicians, will surely see through this.

Dems didn’t even wait to see a transcript.

Yeah, like we should keep waiting for his tax returns?

He may or may not produce the transcripts. I could even believe he'd try doctoring them first. Never thought that would be a plausible belief outside of movies before.

Even a single word can’t be believed?

Well yeah, duh. When a guy for three years speaks both lies, and things he thinks are true but are clearly outside reality, it calls into question everything they say.

You know, how it has worked in society, forever, since the dawn of time. There's even a story about it, you should check it out! It's called The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

Just shows how unreasonable some of you are and that no matter what he says or does or doesn’t say or doesn’t do, you just want him out.

It just shows how out of touch with reality the right is when they say 'but the boy never lied when he cried wolf, you guys are unreasonable and wouldn't believe the boy no matter what!'

Ah, so “no one is above the law!” But no need to even check out anything that Obama guy does because he is just so “enchanting” and wonderful.

Obama is responsible for every dead kitten in human history.

Except for the dead kittens AOC is responsible for. Which is all of them.

First, it's probably because Obama wasn't operating in the gutter like Donny constantly had been since the 70s.

But he did in the political streets of Chicago.

Second, you're so inaccurate your can't get your Rusdian leaders straight. In too much of a hurry to disagree by bringing Obama into the conversation.

Why are Trumpophiles do unhealthily obsessed with Obama?

Why are Democrats obsessed with this President and why are they obsessed with impeachment? But I’m not inaccurate, the Democrats didn’t even see the transcripts of the conversation and based on that without knowing they want to open up impeachment proceedings. Democrats are so badly digging a hole for themselves again, so if there is no quid pro quo then what? But hey, go ahead.

The floodgates have opened. It's time to Impeach the *****.

Excellent. They're on the right track. Get this thing focused, current, hard hitting and factual. Put the smartest, best interrogators on that thing. Pick a chairman who will maintain control and slam dunk the Republicans.

Let's roll!!

Hmm, the vote to start an impeachment inquiry was unanimous.

I think that means Republicans also voted for it.

Why are Democrats obsessed with this President

I'm not a Democrat, so can't speak for them. But I have to think many Democrats (even some Republicans plus most independents) value the Constitution and the democratic systems it allows, and worry that Trump is trying to undermine them. Many Trump supporters have said that's what they've wanted all along. Maybe many Democrats (and some Republicans) fear Trump's attempts to grab more powers for the executive and his measures allowing corporations to run amok over the citizenry. Why are so many Trump supporters obsessed with Democrtas/Hillary/Obama?

Donald Trump is a proven scammer and known pathological liar. What a great day for justice.

distracting war on Iran even more attractive...

It will be interesting to see whether dogs will be wagged.

At last.

Of course the corrupt one won't accept this, he still believes he was exonerated by the Muller Report.

Dellusional to the very end, no doubt.

Funny to see Donny’s choir boys out in full force trying to defend him against something they have no clue about.

Boy are they running scared.

Thanks for guaranteeing Trump gets re-elected.

Elections should be the least of Donny’s worry now.

You cannot win an election by simply not being the other guy, or by virtue of not being you!

When you figure out what you said , raise your hand.

Your hero Clinton proved that point. 

????????????

ROFL

The floodgates have opened. It's time to Impeach the *****.

Ok and then what? He won’t get convicted in the Senate if this goes forward which will be DOA.

Excellent. They're on the right track. Get this thing focused, current, hard hitting and factual. Put the smartest, best interrogators on that thing. Pick a chairman who will maintain control and slam dunk the Republicans.

Let's roll!!

Well, if Democrats want to waste their time, they’re allowed to do that, they definitely have the constitutional right to do that. Go for it.

Here comes that liberal optimism again.

And the dishonesty. What vote was held for this again? There was no vote just Pelosi not able to control her rabid left wingers anymore.

Hmm, the vote to start an impeachment inquiry was unanimous.

Why are the Democrats wasting time and energy on what is sure to be a dead on arrival in the Senate public relations disaster?

They need to avoid this stuff and concentrate on challenging President Trump with sound economic and border security policies that resonate with the working class voters they lost in 2016.

Unfortunately (and I mean it sincerely) this will make things worse for them.

This is so awesome. I love seeing Dems get their head over their skis then crashing and burning at the bottom of the hill - again. Cortez has Pelosi under thumb - she called for impeachment and Pelosi jumped in line. Dems will get nothing done in Congress- only creating more animosity and polarization. The impeachment inquiry will allow Republicans to put Hunter Biden and maybe the former VP himself under oath. Should be very entertaining.

With the violations of the Constitution, one has to wonder where is the respect for rule of law?

No-one is above the law. Tyrants eventually realise this, way after it's too late.

President Clinton was impeached and what good did that do? Nothing.

The Senate will have to waste a few days, then will vote "Not Guilty."

At least wait until next fall, when there is a chance to get a Democratic-controlled Senate elected.

Or does the House expect to waste about 13 months on this? That will just piss off voters.

With the violations of the Constitution, one has to wonder where is the respect for rule of law?

What violations?

No-one is above the law. Tyrants eventually realise this, way after it's too late.

Ok, so the Dems will try (unsuccessfully again) to get this President and the Republicans will investigate Biden, his son and brother, let the chips fall where they may.

Americans are sick and tired of these schoolyard political squabbles and games.

Has this been determined through studies done by the Internet Research Agency or another GRU organization, maybe one of their US based 'useful idiot' organizations like the NRA or KKK?

I'm proud of Democrats. Everyone knows Trump is a self-serving piece of garbage, even his supporters. Telling me that other Republican garbage won't vote to remove one of their own pieces of garbage is absolutely meaningless to me. Someone needs to go on record for the country to say what we believe in and the things he is doing aren't right.

The GOP base can roll around in the mud and smile all they want. They can obstruct, distract, spread disinformation, team up with the Russians, make up false accusations, engage in bath faith arguments and false equivalency. It's what they do and I expect nothing less. But they're still in the mud where they belong.

I hate to say this but Pelosi might want to beef up her security. The death threats are going to come streaming in from Trump's base. Just last week they caught another right-wing domestic terrorist targeting the Left.

According to the NYT article, updated 10 min ago,

Currently, The New York Times counts

179 members who say they favor impeachment proceedings, 73 who say they oppose them or are undecided, and 183 who have not responded to the

question.

So ... unanimous doesn't mean the same thing to me as it does to others here.

I'd like Trump gone, but this will be a huge waste of time. Sadly.

Well, I wasn't for impeachment - I thought just cataloging all the crime and corruption of the Trump sewer was a better strategy - and let the voters throw him out.

But this Ukraine scandal - openly inviting a foreign power to interfere in our election - then boasting about it, has convinced me the time is right.

And while I was sure the Repugnant Repubs in the Senate would rally around their Crime Don, I'm not so sure now. Donnie has essentially proved that Russian collusion in 2016 occurred - by doing the same thing with the Ukrainians in 2019. There's only so much treason even they can stomach.

Toss him out so he can then face all the charges from the New York District Attorneys Office...

See you at Mar-A-Lockup Donnie...

What violations?

Oh, the emoluments clause, using a foreign Govt to influence US elections, bribing foreign Govts to influence US elections, sharing classified information with Israel/Russia, obstruction and of course; blocking people on Twitter, etc.

For starters.

Ok, so the Dems will try (unsuccessfully again) to get this President and the Republicans will investigate Biden, his son and brother, let the chips fall where they may.

Fine with me. As I've said previously, am no fan of Biden.

PTownsend: Has this been determined through studies done by the Internet Research Agency or another GRU organization, maybe one of their US based 'useful idiot' organizations like the NRA or KKK?

Step off the ledge and wait for at least some evidence. All we have now is hearsay reporting. Is there any evidence from a court of law or maybe just from groups like Marxists or national socialists. Whoops - taking a step back.

I'm proud of Democrats.

Why? That they’ve completely and utterly made laughing stock of themselves or that they’re gunning for possibly losing the House?

Everyone knows Trump is a self-serving piece of garbage, even his supporters.

Sorry, but you’re wrong, he almost has 91% approval rating among Republicans and registered voters.

Telling me that other Republican garbage won't vote to remove one of their own pieces of garbage is absolutely meaningless to me. Someone needs to go on record for the country to say what we believe in and the things he is doing aren't right.

Well, it may be meaningless to you and to me as well, but it is amusing to watch the Democrats slide down the abyss on this one once and for all. They are doing all of us a favor.

The GOP base can roll around in the mud and smile all they want. They can obstruct, distract, spread disinformation, team up with the Russians, make up false accusations, engage in bath faith arguments and false equivalency. It's what they do and I expect nothing less. But they're still in the mud where they belong.

Anyway, in the meantime, Biden will be more scrutinized especially with the lucrative ties it would seem his son and brother have with the Ukraine’s and the Dems can stall all they want, but Biden is finished and that leaves Warren which Trump will have zero problem shredding to pieces. I have never seen the Democrats so willing to go to the point of self destruction.

I hate to say this but Pelosi might want to beef up her security. The death threats are going to come streaming in from Trump's base. Just last week they caught another right-wing domestic terrorist targeting the Left.

Trump should tell Nancy, “you’ll get used to the threats, believe me.”

Time to watch the Dems crash and burn, again, and then try to memory-hole this debacle, again.

Can't believe I was a Dem in college!

it is amusing to watch the Democrats slide down the abyss on this one once and for all. They are doing all of us a favor.

True. In the absence of representation (even if it is wishy-washy center right Joe et al), the opposition will swell grassroots socialism and then a genuine force for change will come.

America has to go to the very brink of madness under this crazed monarch and his followers, perhaps, in order to become a bona fide socialist republic with international standing.

In the meantime, as the impeachment process begins, it might be wise of the UN to send in peacekeeping troops or at least, monitors, as the elections approach.

There's no telling what depths Trumpists will sink to, in order to hang on to the White House. Even if it means putting their backing behind a mentally ill PotUS.

What violations?

-The Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits the president from accepting personal benefits from any foreign government or official.

-Trump has retained his ownership interests in his family business while he is in office.

Thus, every time a foreign official stays at a Trump hotel, or a foreign government approves a new Trump Organization project, or grants a trademark, Trump is in violation of the Constitution.

For example: shortly after he was sworn into office, the Chinese government

gave preliminary approval to 38 trademarks of Trump’s name. Then, in June, China approved nine Donald Trump trademarks they had previously rejected.

-And every time he goes to golf at a Trump property, he funnels taxpayer money into his family business—violating the Domestic Emoluments Clause.

There are many examples of abuse of executive powers, such as the power play in attempting to pressure the Department of Justice to prosecute political adversaries like Clinton, or attempting to get Comey to drop an investigation into NSA, Michael Flynn. He has continually shown a disregard for basic responsibility as defined by the constitution, including giving cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville, where he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence. He has also repeatedly attacked the concept of an independent press, and shown favor to Fox, as his network to try and control the narrative of 'fake news' and journalism as 'the enemy of the American people' and led him to try and interfere in the AT&T/Time Warner merger, dismissing free speech. Trump wants a fascist state controlling 'his' media. He has continually shown an unwillingness to uphold and respect the constitution while showing disdain for the crucial foundations to our free society.

Trump fired back quickly on Twitter, calling the inquiry "Witch Hunt garbage."

lolz

Clever way of calling Pelosi a witch and a piece of garbage at the same time!

Also, don't forget, that the Senate decides whether or not to hold impeachment hearings, even if it passes the House.

The Republican Senate has the Constitutional right to simply dismiss the entire proceedings. :D

"If the House passes such an impeachment resolution, then the process moves to the Senate. Under Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution, the Senate has the “sole Power to try all impeachments.”

The Senate, in essence, becomes a trial court with all of the senators sitting as the judge and jury. Based on historic practice, members of the House can act as prosecutors.

It is important to note, however, that it is entirely up to the Senate to decide whether to hold a trial. There is no obligation under the Constitution to do so.

This means that even if the Democratic majority in the House votes to impeach President Trump, the Republican majority in the Senate could decide to not even consider removing him from office. House Democrats opposed to impeaching Trump say there is no point in passing an impeachment resolution because it would most likely be dead on arrival in the Senate."

Clever way of calling Pelosi a witch and a piece of garbage at the same time!

Thinking calling it a witch hunt and a double meaning with Pelosi is clever by Trump isn't clever at all. Do remember he called it a witch hunt with Mueller, too.

True. In the absence of representation (even if it is wishy-washy center right Joe et al), the opposition will swell grassroots socialism and then a genuine force for change will come.

And would completely destroy the country.

America has to go to the very brink of madness under this crazed monarch and his followers, perhaps, in order to become a bona fide socialist republic with international standing.

What? So we should give Europe a pass? What’s their excuse?

In the meantime, as the impeachment process begins, it might be wise of the UN to send in peacekeeping troops or at least, monitors, as the elections approach.

There's no telling what depths Trumpists will sink to, in order to hang on to the White House. Even if it means putting their backing behind a mentally ill PotUS.

Uh-huh, well...anyway back to reality, as for the Democrats and liberals they are jumping out of the plane with no parachute and the ground is coming fast to meet them.

In all sincerity, this is something the Democrats should not have done. First, it will fail in the Senate. Second it proves again that they don't care about the working class. Trumps policies have led to record employment levels especially for minorities.

Dems supporters should urge their party ditch the identity politics, impossible to fund job killing climate change proposals and nothing burger investigations and get back to sticking up for the working class. Will they ever learn?

In all sincerity, this is something the Democrats should not have done. First, it will fail in the Senate. Second it proves again that they don't care about the working class. Trumps policies have led to record employment levels especially for minorities.

They hate this President so much, they could care less, they can’t even see how bad they’re damaging their own party, it’s definitely something to behold.

Also, don't forget, that the Senate decides whether or not to hold impeachment hearings, even if it passes the House.

The Republican Senate has the Constitutional right to simply dismiss the entire proceedings. :D

Yea, maybe like they did yesterday....

The Senate unanimously passed a nonbinding resolution Tuesday calling for the whistleblower complaint related to President Trump's communications with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to be released to the House and Senate Intelligence Committees.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/867423/senate-votes-1000-release-trump-whistleblower-complaint

Maybe Moscow Mitch has more treason they even he can stomach....

Chip Star - Of which there is zero evidence. Your track record of predictions is poor at best. You've been randomly assuring us that Strzok and the Podestas would face indictments for how many years now?

LOL. Zero evidence has been the Democrats forte. Which is why they continually fail to meet their own extravagant expectations/dreams/fantasies. THIS time we have him. THIS time he won't get away. THIS time we may actually have some evidence of wrong doing. Maybe. Maybe not.

Did Trump just wait until Pelosi gave the go-ahead for a Democrat impeachment INQUIRY before he announced he would release the transcript of this much anticipated phone call? Now that the Democrat candidates are on record for believing a leaked tall tale from a whistleblower who didn't actually hear the phone call in question, it will be interesting to see how fast they can all backpedal.

"Strzok and the Podestas" actions should have been officially investigated a long time ago. No serious effort was made until Barr took over the job. Now it's only a matter time before the Strzok and Podesta-types end up in prison.

Isn't it amazing - Donnie says the Mueller report exonerates him of any collusion with the Russians - so evidently he felt to secure, that he then turned right around and tried it with the Ukrainians - but this time he got caught by the Whistle Blower.

And now he openly admits it - he said he discussed Ukraine launching a bogus investigation into Biden's son - at least 8 times on one phone call - this right after he, and he alone, put a freeze on Ukraine's military aid - an aid package that both SECDEF and SECSTATE said was essential.

There's no need to connect the dots - the dots are in plain sight and he's confessed to them; he colluded with a foreign government to interfere in an election.

But that's just typical Donnie - unethical, immoral, illegal, and stupid...

Toss the Orange Idiot out!

Is he going to release the transcript the same way he released his tax returns ?

"Is he going to release the transcript the same way he released his tax returns?"

Highly doubtful. These transcripts should've been released weeks ago, but Trump has been playing a crooked shell game with them just as he has with his tax returns.

Let's hear what this whistle-blower has to say. That would be more credible than any fake info dribbling out of the Trump administration.

Dem crash and burn. The IG found “political bias” from the whistleblower during his investigation. Against Trump and for a “rival candidate”. Wonder who that could be

So when the transcript doesn’t show “eight times” I am interested how liberals will move the goal posts again.

Dem crash and burn. The IG found “political bias” from the whistleblower during his investigation. Against Trump and for a “rival candidate”. Wonder who that could be

It's so gratifying to see the Trumpers here meltdown and reach for bottom-barrel excuses - they know Donnie stepped in it big time - and that his Presidency is in real jeopardy.

So when the transcript doesn’t show “eight times” I am interested how liberals will move the goal posts again.

Oh yea, I'm sure the transcript will have "8" crossed out and "0" written in Black Sharpie....

It will surely fail in the Senate and just add to the public's perception that the working class friendly Democratic Party of old is dead and buried, having been usurped by identity politics embracing, racist against whites, anti men, pro dismembering and slaughtering the unborn up to 40 weeks, etc. politicians to whom the welfare of the average worker is an just afterthought.

Dems, please let go of the above and nothing burger and petty investigations and focus on gradual increases of the minimum wage, wisely implemented single payer health care (similar to Japan or Australian Medicare) and strong economic and border security policies.

So when the transcript doesn’t show “eight times” I am interested how liberals will move the goal posts again.

so what if its 1, 8, 100 times only takes 1 illegal doing to make a person guilty of a crime, or are the moving of the goal posts about discrediting the Dems because they got the number of times Trump did something illegal wrong so it somehow makes trump innocent, LOL

increases of the minimum wage, wisely implemented single payer health care (similar to Japan or Australian Medicare)  but the Republicans don't want this form of socialism

And if it does? Hmm? What are you intending to do if it does show “eight times”? 

then theyll just try and discredit the whistleblower, just like they did Comey , Mueller, CIA, FBI, anybody that previously worked in the white house after all Trump cant be wrong, everybody else is.

Inquiry. Nothing has changed rather than the modifier. With or without it, investigations will illuminate. Wait for it, as I tell my dog.

And Trump releases the transcript today - surprisingly it was all written in Black Sharpie;

"Zel, my man - it's your main squeeze, The Stable Genius......

Hello Mr President....

Zel, there's one one thing I want to get out of the way - I in no way shape or form mentioned to you Joe Biden or his son Hunter in this phone call, correct?

Mr President, you spent the past 30 minutes talking about them and your desire that we launch a bogus investigation...

Zel, let me say again, I in no way said anything about the Bidens....

But Mr President.....

Zel, Zel, let's change subjects, could you use a few more tanks and anti-aircraft missiles?

Yes, yes, Mr President we could....

Great, they're on their way - as soon as you remember that we in no way discussed the Bidens....."

So the argument of the pubbies seems to be "you guys are stupid doing what's ethical when you're going to lose the election".

Now, it's entirely speculation, so the actual speculation is irrelevant, as it's just a fantasy they've made up in their head rather than how things actually will play out. But that said, the fact that this is where their minds went in criticism for the Democrats dealing with Trump on an ethical issue is...

Well to be frank, it's entirely graceful. Remember when the two parties were united in expecting the president to represent the people, and ashamed as a nation when they didn't?

They just gonna make the base stronger and better. These weirdo Dems, 2020 cant get here soon enough.

So the argument of the pubbies seems to be "you guys are stupid doing what's ethical when you're going to lose the election".

Take out the reference to ethics, and you are about right. This has nothing to do with ethics, unless you believe there is a Santa Claus. Very few people see the Democrats as having any ethics at all. The Republicans are not much better.

Isn't it amazing - Donnie says the Mueller report exonerates him of any collusion with the Russians - so evidently he felt to secure, that he then turned right around and tried it with the Ukrainians - but this time he got caught by the Whistle Blower.

So that is what the nightly liberal news shows are talking about? Anyway this whistleblower has admitted they don’t know the details of the conversation. Opps, foiled yet again, Democrats.

And now he openly admits it - he said he discussed Ukraine launching a bogus investigation into Biden's son - at least 8 times on one phone call - this right after he, and he alone, put a freeze on Ukraine's military aid - an aid package that both SECDEF and SECSTATE said was essential. 

I Think now more than ever Biden and his son and his brother are going to be looked at more and they’re going to have a deeper investigative look into his shady business ties to the Ukrainians. Something odd about a drug user and a man that sleeps with his dead brothers wife with very zero corporate experience make $50,000 a month.....yeah, ok..lol

There's no need to connect the dots - the dots are in plain sight and he's confessed to them; he colluded with a foreign government to interfere in an election.

But that's just typical Donnie - unethical, immoral, illegal, and stupid...

Toss the Orange Idiot out!

Looks like the dots are being connected and the Dems are scrambling and in DEFCON 9 mode. If Biden gets sacked and we nominate Warren, she’s going to get beat like a drum. Biden and family in cahoots with a foreign country, he’s so done. Might not even make it before next year summer.

Long past due for impeachment proceedings. Whether the Republican held Senate would convict should be irrelevant to the House. Whether this will blow back politically should be irrelevant. This shouldn’t be a political calculation. This president, in plain sight, has committed impeachable offenses and there’s good reason to believe more during Ukrainegate. The House must proceed because it’s the right thing to do. Otherwise the Orange egomaniac would be right to believe he could literally shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue in broad daylight and get away with it.

Isn't it amazing - Donnie says the Mueller report exonerates him of any collusion with the Russians - so evidently he felt to secure, that he then turned right around and tried it with the Ukrainians - but this time he got caught by the Whistle Blower.

So that is what the nightly liberal news shows are talking about?

Yep.....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-expected-to-announce-formal-impeachment-inquiry-against-trump-at-5-pm-et

And now he openly admits it - he said he discussed Ukraine launching a bogus investigation into Biden's son - at least 8 times on one phone call - this right after he, and he alone, put a freeze on Ukraine's military aid - an aid package that both SECDEF and SECSTATE said was essential. 

I Think now more than ever Biden and his son and his brother are going to be looked at more and they’re going to have a deeper investigative look into his shady business ties to the Ukrainians. Something odd about a drug user and a man that sleeps with his dead brothers wife with very zero corporate experience make $50,000 a month.....yeah, ok..lol

Don Jr and Eric: "We get all the money we need from Russia...." Ivanka: Get's 16 Chinese trademarks approved while working in the White House...while her father gets his ties made in China...

There's no need to connect the dots - the dots are in plain sight and he's confessed to them; he colluded with a foreign government to interfere in an election.

But that's just typical Donnie - unethical, immoral, illegal, and stupid...

Toss the Orange Idiot out!

Looks like the dots are being connected and the Dems are scrambling and in DEFCON 9 mode.

And the Trumpers panic as their "Stable Genius" admits to soliciting a foreign government to interfere in our election...and watch as Rudy Giuliani does a Charles Manson impression when interviewed....

Bye-bye Donnie.....

Clever way of calling Pelosi a witch and a piece of garbage at the same time!

If you understand English language, then a 'Witch Hunt' is a hunt for a witch.

So Trump called himself a witch and garbage at the same time!!!! Not clever at all.

Anyway he is too fat to be a witch, more like a Goblin hunt.

@WTFJapan

increases of the minimum wage, wisely implemented single payer health care (similar to Japan or Australian Medicare) but the Republicans don't want this form of socialism

That's my point. The Dems ought to focus on offering the best of what Trump has to offer (sound economic policy, booming economy, job and border security, etc) + the above. They will surely win if they do.

They just gonna make the base stronger and better.

actually I think its the opposite, history has shown that the higher the voter turnout the more likely of a Democrat POTUS. Democrats outnumber Republicans by far, only the elctoral college whhich saves them. why do you think the Republicans dont want weekend vote days. The more people get sick and tired of this cretin of a POTUS the more likely people will turn out to vote. Midterms just showed Republicans of what is to come.

No such level, DEFCON 9??

yes there is that is a thing, like 4D chess

This has nothing to do with ethics, unless you believe there is a Santa Claus.

Yes, the president asking the leader of a foreign nation to dig up dirt on his political opponent has nothing to do with ethics.

Got it.

That's the opinion of the Republican party above folks.

That's my point. The Dems ought to focus on offering the best of what Trump has to offer (sound economic policy, booming economy, job and border security, etc) + the above. They will surely win if they do.

Sure, but now is not the time for that. Right now it's the race for the leadership of the party, not the race against the deplorables. The topics will change when it gets to an interparty race, rather than a uniparty race.

Yes, the president asking the leader of a foreign nation to dig up dirt on his political opponent has nothing to do with ethics.

No the dirt was already dug up. He was asking them to investigate a likely crime. Something like when the Dems asked the Russians for dirt on Trump during the election - but with actual evidence of a crime this time. Dictators and fascists throughout history have always claimed they were the ethical ones. But actions speak louder than words. As I said, the Dems have no ethics. The Republicans are not much better.

That's the opinion of the Republican party above folks.

LOL. As usual, you misquote me or claim I said something I didn't say. Go ahead, blame it on grammar again.

@Strangerland

That's my point. The Dems ought to focus on offering the best of what Trump has to offer (sound economic policy, booming economy, job and border security, etc) + the above. They will surely win if they do.

Sure, but now is not the time for that. Right now it's the race for the leadership of the party, not the race against the deplorables. The topics will change when it gets to an interparty race, rather than a uniparty race.

By that time it will be too late. The public perception of the Democrats will have sunk too low.

How sad the demise of the once great worker friendly Democratic Party.

Anyway he is too fat to be a witch, more like a Goblin hunt.

More like Jabba the Hut

Question: Why would the president be impeached for a story that the Democrats literally cannot explain?

Oh my...

Impeachment seemed like a fleeting prospect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtTP2jzlIaM

Get your popcorn and snacks, this is gonna be entertaining, Trump will be loving this, the Democrats cant prove a thing, it wont pass the Senate, all this will do is make more voters vote for Trump 2020.

Trump will be loving this, the Democrats cant prove a thing,

Since you don't know either way, another statement based on zero facts.

Trump seems pretty rattled, his twitter feed is goin crazy.

all this will do is make more voters vote for Trump 2020.

55% of Americans believe Trump should be impeached if the transcript shows he asked Ukraine to intervene.

Trumplets busy defending their leader with zero facts, blind faith must be nice.