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Good news so far!

This region needs to cool down.

18 ( +20 / -2 )

What President Trump has accomplished in so short a time is simply remarkable.

After 8 years of darkness, there is light again!

-1 ( +23 / -24 )

What President Trump has accomplished in so short a time is simply remarkable.

I am sure the haters will find something negative about it, or say its because of Obama

5 ( +22 / -17 )

Yes Clamenza - the steady descent of 'strategic patience' has been halted. Good thing there is now some leadership at the helm. 'Strategic patience' - HAHAHA

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While there is reason for optimism folks should not forget that NK has a long-standing track record of making all sorts of promises when they are in need, and then when things get better, fall back to what they know best, stirring up the pot more and destabilizing relations in the region.

The proof will be in the upcoming months.

It's VERY hard to imagine Kim giving up his power so easily, when he is just as, if not more, vindictive than Trump, hell he KILLED his own brother because he feared he would be used as an option against him.

People sometimes have short memories when the light starts to shine a bit. Kim is a murderer and things need to be taken slowly.

20 ( +25 / -5 )

People sometimes have short memories when the light starts to shine a bit. Kim is a murderer and things need to be taken slowly.

same losing talk heard since 1953.

-21 ( +5 / -26 )

O way would this happen with Obama.

-3 ( +15 / -18 )

No way

-10 ( +8 / -18 )

I hope I'm wrong, but I think it will be a photo-op, nothing more.

Trump wants NK to denuclearise.

Kim wants total denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula. That means US nukes, too.

No way Trump is going to say OK.

As others have mentioned, Kim is not going to give up his power; the day he does, he's dead. (cf. Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi)

Trump is not going to give up his nukes.

Stalemate. Deadlock.

I only hope that after the brief period of lovey-dovey we have now, things don't rebound to worse than what they were before. (cf Iran)

We all want peace and prosperity of course, but it will in a way be sad if Trump pulls this off; it means that bluster, bullying and outright threats are the order of the day.

By hey, knock yourselves out, Trump and Kim.

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same losing talk heard since 1953.

Don't appreciate hearing fact? How easily you are willing to forgive and forget a mass murderer.

13 ( +19 / -6 )

an issue Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe sees as a top priority for his government.

You think the top priority would be the economy and the welfare of his own people rather than 17 people that went missing decades ago.

15 ( +18 / -3 )

For the love of nuts, the abductions occurred over 40 years ago. The onus was on the japanese government to make inroads and find swift solution. But no. They kicked the can down the road and now seeing as the so called arrows all missed their mark, this tired issue is served up for even more political posturing. Disgusting to say the least. Sorry but not sorry japan. You reap what you sow. It's Korea's turn to shine.

5 ( +10 / -5 )

With 2 unstable ego's meeting. It could be hilarious or very frightening!

2 ( +11 / -9 )

The Fatman summit is on!

Wonder if there will be chocolate cake?

all thiose claiming this as a major accomplishment,nothing has been accomplished except a meeting, nothing has been discussed, no agreement has been made, nothing has been signed and mr art of the deal has his own track record for gaffes when it comes down to meetings and communication.

8 ( +12 / -4 )

Let the GAMES begin.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Now, the big question : what does Kim want ?

10 ( +10 / -0 )

"United States agreed to formally end the 1950-1953 Korean War". Great approach in this modern history but unbelievable those 65 years of confrontations in the Korean Peninsula that could be a trigger to any conflict for many years. The current Secretary-General of the United Nations Antonio Guterres also should expose his presence in this Trump-Kim summit set for June 12 in Singapore to make this meeting realistic. (As much as twenty-one countries contributed to the UN force to support USA side in Korean war.)

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Now, the big question : what does Kim want ?

A 1960's song comes to mind, with the lyrics "all we are saying is, give peace a chance".

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Total denuclearization of the peninsula might be impossible while the US maintains their policy of neither confirming nor denying their nukes. There are no US forces or ship visits to NZ as a result of their opposing policies. How can US forces stay in SK. Kim knows this. Can of worms.

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My opinion is if Abe puts the abduction issue ahead of the nuclear and ballistic missile issue, the man is really clueless and needs to retire.

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Well, good luck and hopefully this will end in a positive outcome!

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Now, the big question : what does Kim want ?

I'm guesing huge amounts of aid cash and some tickets to a basketball game?

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Trump: "I'll give you whatever you want. Just make me look good so my base can shove it in liberals' faces."

What will Trump's achieve in North Korea? Being a mark to Kim Jong Un's diplomatic con game.

Kim is getting exactly what he wants from Trump: the lifting of economic sanctions and a weakening of the U.S. military relationship with South Korea. Kim is keeping the North's vastly superior advantage in conventional weapons. In exchange, Kim is giving up a feckless nuclear capability that's useless to Kim for conquering South Korea. In effect, Kim is trading a pawn for Trump’s queen.

Kim has tried this gambit with several previous U.S. presidents. In Trump, he finally found an American president gullible and desperate enough to fall for this con game. An appeasing leader in South Korea has also helped Kim's cause.

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all thiose claiming this as a major accomplishment,nothing has been accomplished except a meeting

Actually, even if nothing ultimately comes of it, I would consider being the first sitting US president to meet with a North Korean leader to be a major accomplishment.

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all the HATERS going crazy! Don’t you just love TRUMP!! He’s playing the left and the media. I love it!!

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I agree with cleo that this is likely one big photo-op and a chance for Trump to claim he saved the world. In reality I see little chance of actually defanging North Korea, at least not without them trying to pull one over on us. Anyone who has followed North Korea news over the past few decades is going to be very skeptical.

But, I'm not so sure if NK demands that US removes nukes from South Korea, (in return for North Korea abandoning their nuclear weapons) we can not agree to that. For one, the U.S. already removed all nukes from South Korea in the 1991.

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/20/world/us-to-pull-a-bombs-from-south-korea.html

Second, we have nuclear capability at sea, including submarines. While nuclear armed US naval vessels may not be able to call at South Korea ports, US submarines could sit off the North Korean coast undetected.

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extankerToday 08:33 am JST

all thiose claiming this as a major accomplishment,nothing has been accomplished except a meeting

Actually, even if nothing ultimately comes of it, I would consider being the first sitting US president to meet with a North Korean leader to be a major accomplishment.

If nothing is accomplished, how is it an "accomplishment"?

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Yeah the haters are out in force. Trump already won just by the hostages coming back and the meeting being scheduled.. 2 things of many that liberals said would never happen.

the last guy was even talking something about a magic wand that he didn’t have so he could do his own job. Well if that’s what was needed, Trump has one.

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

Singapore is a good pick. Seeing as it’s away from NK, the NKs will have to bring a lot to offer as there is no quick retreat and both parties will likely feel obliged to reach some sort of deal.

Only complete NK denuclearization and disarmament of ballistic missiles is acceptable at this stage.

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Kim has tried this gambit with several previous U.S. presidents. In Trump, he finally found an American president gullible and desperate enough to fall for this con game. An appeasing leader in South Korea has also helped Kim's cause.

Could you at least wait for the outcome of the meeting before mouthing off from your couch?

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@extanker

so are you saying that a man with no major accomplishment will have accomplished something by accomplishing nothing?

Well if that’s your logic I am not surprised:-/

trump supporters usually have Twilight zone logic.

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There's going to be a lot of pride at stake - who's got the better hairstyle, the whiter teeth, the wider girth, the bigger ego?

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Its pretty clear the lib/leftys on this site are terrified the summit will be successful!

-5 ( +9 / -14 )

Yeah, the goal posts just keep moving and moving but Trump just keeps scoring and scoring.

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Kim should not trust the Great Satan after the Iran debacle.

The ROK should insist the US stays out of talks and takeover the summit. If they are to succeed, they cannot trust the snake in the White House who speaks with a forked tongue.

Singapore is a lovely authoritarian choice, though. Well done!

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Trump already won just by the hostages coming back and the meeting being scheduled. 2 things of many that liberals said would never happen.

Neither of those is unprecedented. Remember when Obama sent Bill Clinton to successfully bring back two American journalists? Did you congratulate him for winning back then? I bet not. The right gave him crap for even talking to NK and legitimizing them.

I agree with Cleo. I hope I'm wrong, but NK has come close to joining the rest of the world before only to go back to their old ways. I realize you're desparate for some positive news about Trump, but it's a bit to soon to be claiming "mission accomplished."

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No I laughed at Obama because he had to send Bill Clinton. No one in his own administration or himself could get it done, as usual.

so he had to outsource it to one of the best presidents of my lifetime, Mr. William J. Clinton

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There's going to be a lot of pride at stake - who's got the better hairstyle, the whiter teeth, the wider girth, the bigger ego?

You forgot "a bigger button" LOL

0 ( +4 / -4 )

Positive news about Trump every single day, just the liberal media not telling you. Captured 5 ISIS leaders yesterday. Who will NOT be traded for hostages or sent along with a plane of cash somewhere to claim “foreign policy” achievements.

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All the haters and "liberal"/"right" name calling. Face it, everyone needs to get off their high horse and hope that something good comes from these talks and quit comparing to what the "left" would do or how unreliable Trump is.

I hope this starts the movement of NK going in the proper direction.

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Its pretty clear the lib/leftys on this site are terrified the summit will be successful!

Yeah. Well, it's pretty clear where Trump is going with this: to disengage with NE Asia. Kim's no fool. He'll come up with a bone of sufficient face-saving size to toss at Trump, and as long as Trump gets the okay from the adults in his retinue, he'll snatch at it. I'm not saying this is necessarily bad. I am just saying that any president over the last few decades could have done the same. The only reason they didn't is because they had principals.

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So all this "the world is going to burn in nuclear annihilation* and Otto's death and all the suffering of the N Korean people was just because previous presidents wouldnt put aside their "principles"?

Knowing this, I appreciate that our President is willing to sacrifice his principles to save the world and make a better life for the people of NKorea. Wow, seriously that's all it was, "principles"? Anyone could have done this? that just makes me angry, as I was told it was much more complicated than that.

I am just saying that any president over the last few decades could have done the same. The only reason they didn't is because they had principals.

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

President Trump will be remembered as one of the greatest Presidents ever. What a great day this will be!

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Let's all pray that these two boneheads can put their heads together and make something truly magical happen.

On a side note, it would be funny if Kim Jong Un and his wife were to take advantage of this situation by seeking political asylum while they're in Singapore.

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I appreciate that our President is willing to sacrifice his principles to save the world

Comments section resembles The Onion, lately.

Your fake President has no principles. Did you see the news footage of the "welcome home"? It was staged propaganda, complete with dramatic music, slo-mo shots and Trump banging on about ratings.

Worthy of the DPRK, almost.

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I seriously doubt "making a better life for the people of NK" has ever broached Trump's consciousness. He's never been known for his concern of the welfare of others, as even you must admit. He just wants to cut and run - something he is well known for. Again, I'm not saying it's necessarily bad; however, it has zero to do with the welfare of anyoneb ut Trump.

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There is going to be an epedemic of ecstasy among trump sycophants, but someday they will have to deal with reality and facts about the one they adore so blindly.

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Your fake President has no principles.

Yes, the left keep saying that and they’re proven wrong every single time.

Did you see the news footage of the "welcome home"? It was staged propaganda, complete with dramatic music, slo-mo shots and Trump banging on about ratings.

Ok, so getting them out of that hole is not something to celebrate? Wow. Now we all know if this happened under the aanointed one that played all kinds of music from various pop stars for various events, not a single word would have been uttered. Come on...lol.

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@clamenza

What President Trump has accomplished in so short a time is simply remarkable.

After 8 years of darkness, there is light again!

wait till the fat.. lady sings....

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Outstanding news!! In such a short period,Trump is transforming the world for better. He is “dealmaker” and gets things done. Unlike Obama.I cant wait for this Summit, which will be televused live around the world.Who would have thought these 2 powers in USA and NK would come tigether as one!

Next on the agenda, will be Summit between PM Abe and Kim-San about 1 month later.Venue not yet decided.

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You guys can keep your "principles" excuses for inaction. The American people want action and results, and that is what we are getting.

Yep, thats how we do things. We celebrate success.

Did you see the news footage of the "welcome home"? It was staged propaganda, complete with dramatic music, slo-mo shots and Trump banging on about ratings.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

Of course the meeting will be a photo op. ALL leader summits are. the real work is done beforehand, behind closed doors, by staff and professional negotiatiors. Then the leaders can meet, sign papers, and shake hands in front of the cameras. I guarantee that the paperwork is already done, and was a prerequisite to the meeting being held. Don and Kim will be all smiles.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Its pretty clear the lib/leftys on this site are terrified the summit will be successful!

I am just pragmatic and cannot forget all the past failed diplomacy, which failed because of NK.

The new things here is Kim, years of sanctions, China not being as supportive of NK, and possibly NK developing nuclear weapons. Trump as a magic ingredient is ludicrous, unless Trump had a plan to bait and switch China. But, that gives Trump too much credit for rational thinking. China is going to try and destroy any agreement. I had some hopes that a Western educated Kim would bring rationality to NK, and maybe Kim is finally able to act the right way after consolidating his power. However, a cult of personality will be difficult to change. (talking about NK not Trump supporters).

Two possible outcomes:

(1) Trump is doing what any other president has done, falling for another NK negotiating tactic.

(2) Kim is actually making history. The question is how far will he go to unify Korea.

I am hopeful for the second outcome given the recent NK and SK meetings, but the first one is the more likely one, i.e., a Trump failure.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

We celebrate success.

Prediction: Kim keeps his nuclear weapons and missiles and, in exchange for incremental American withdrawal from the peninsula, promises not to flaunt them. Again, I'm not saying this is necessarily bad. It just depends on how you define "success."

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Like most insufferable people, Trump is even more insufferable when he thinks he's accomplished 'something' and boasts about it.

Nothing to do with left/right, the left has produced more than its fair share of insufferable/extremely annoying pollies, too (in different countries; Hillary Clinton & oz' Kevin Rudd come to mind).

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I like how the negative outcome has "Trump" as the subject, while the positive comment switches to "Kim". So Trump is a sucker or Kim makes history. I see.

1) Trump is doing what any other president has done, falling for another NK negotiating tactic.

(2) Kim is actually making history. The question is how far will he go to unify Korea.

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No I laughed at Obama because he had to send Bill Clinton. No one in his own administration or himself could get it done, as usual.

so he had to outsource it to one of the best presidents of my lifetime, Mr. William J. Clinton

If I had the most gifted politician of his generation and arguably America’s finest president in the postwar period on hand, I’d use him too.

Be honest, this meeting would have a far greater chance of success with a man as gifted as Clinton. The potty-throwing moron isn’t useful here. He’s best at trash and on Twitter. Clinton certainly can’t compete on that score.

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I like how the negative outcome has "Trump" as the subject, while the positive comment switches to "Kim". So Trump is a sucker or Kim makes history. I see.

A ton of Simple.

The power is with Kim. Only he can create peace.

Trump is trying what any other president, diplomat or even citizen has tried, so it isn't special. You are the one's pointing to Trump as the rain maker. In reality, it is Kim and only Kim with the power. Trump can only fail. If there is successful peace, it is success by not failing.

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totally agree with you, I would love for Bill Clinton to be at this meeting instead of Trump. Bill could have set it up when he was President but chose not to. So Trump earned it and deserves it and he will handle it. high risk/high reward.

But in Obama's mind and all the "thanks Obama!" people, this description is of him, not Bill Clinton. That was and is the problem. lack of self awareness.

If I had the most gifted politician of his generation and arguably America’s finest president in the postwar period on hand, I’d use him too.

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Saw something interesting on Twitter.

The last guy negotiates release of 1 hostage (Bowe Berghdal) in return for 5 terrorists.

Trump gets multiple hostages, not just 1, released.

While capturing, not releasing, 5 terrorists.

Who does the media praise for the deal? the last guy.

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Don't appreciate hearing fact? How easily you are willing to forgive and forget a mass murderer.

You haven't laid out a single fact other than no one has been able to get the North Koreans to the negotiating table in 65 years. Trump managed it in 16 months.

And no one is forgiving or forgetting Kim. But here in the real world, you don't throw away a peace agreement and a de-nuclearized North Korea by threatening to haul Kim before a world court because he killed his half brother.

This is called "Realpolitik" and its not interested in idealogues. Its interested in results.

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@Kobe I've said several times this may be Kim being Kim, but this is unprecedented in our lifetimes.

Don't be afraid to give President Trump a little pat on the back. He deserves it.

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

Positive news about Trump every single day, just the liberal media not telling you.

Yeah well it IS hip and cool to bash Trump you know. Despite the best economy in years, best job data in years, highest stocks ever, NK on precipice of demilitarization, more illegal immigrants being deported and more dispensable income in people's pockets ever.... but we still must not talk about these things. We must talk about Russia and a porn star. Because... well because that is what the loser news people and c-grade comedians with late-night shows say.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Saw something interesting on Twitter.

The last guy negotiates release of 1 hostage (Bowe Berghdal) in return for 5 terrorists.

Trump gets multiple hostages, not just 1, released.

While capturing, not releasing, 5 terrorists.

Who does the media praise for the deal? the last guy.

Interesting. Sounds like your guy has made himself so hated, that people may be willing to do anything they can to ensure he's only a one-term president.

Maybe if he had been born in America, and had a name and a skin color that came off America, people wouldn't be so against him.

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Six Party Peace talks, 6 rounds, finally ended in 2009. 2003-2009

was Kim jung il involved? In a neutral country?

Nope.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Give peace a chance.

Leaders are not deciding on their own and within a blink of an eye if they want peace or War. They have family and friends and colleagues...as humans do.

In negotiation art, you can and should even obtain with the devil a good deal if you accept to give up your own pride.

Total amnesty to NK government members against cash, latest technologies and access to first world pleasures of life.

Trump is going to the Godwin point, like it or not.

Whether Kim will take it or not is the question.

I assume he has seen enough of the world to be willing to access those new pleasures for him.

We all can have opinions in a month instead of bickering like children in a huge sandbox.

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Sorry strangerland, it’s just taking people a little while to get used to expecting “results” again. That’s new in these last 10 years so people are still skeptical.

but once they really start to see the results aren’t going to stop, all this but Russia and porn stuff becomes irrelevant like it already is heading towards now.

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The point is that the trump hate is nearly dead except on the alt-left.

Stormy and Stormys lawyer now both under new scrutiny as far as motives. Comey “colluded” with Mueller to work out what he would say in his testimony before Congress. Fewer people “hating” Trump everyday as they see these things come to light in conjunction with his recent high profile successes.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

We must talk about Russia and a porn star. Because... well because that is what the loser news people and c-grade comedians with late-night shows say. well thats what democracy is based on , a governing party and the opposition. If your history is clear of corruption and immoral acts then you have nothing to fear from the opposition, if it isnt then youll get voted out or forced to resign or even imprisoned as we have seen in the last 18 month from numerous politicians and people in power. It doesn't matter which party is in power its the opposition that is there to keep them honest or expose them for all to see.

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Comey “colluded” with Mueller  lol thats a new one, its proper term is "make a deal" as Trump likes to state. I give your dirt on my employer and you give me a more lenient sentence.

recent high profile successes. what success are those he hasnt made any yet, releasing a few prisoners isnt new, Trump hasn't got NK to agree on anything concrete yet and NK Chinese overlords will be the one pulling NK strings on any future agreement. Trumps already ensured that a far more resourceful and wealthy Iran may start up its own enrichment in the coming year. Thats the thing with denuclearization it make take away the tools to make bombs but it doesn't take away the knowledge on how to make them

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Kim keeps his nuclear weapons and missiles unfortunatly Kim is going to want some major concessions before hell even contemplate that, I doubt Trump would agree to many of them. Trump wont accept anything that doesn't make those hes negotiating with look like cowering pets, NK is far from that.

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Has anyone ever read Korean folklore? There are many stories of "the rabbit and the tiger". The outline is all similar like this. The tiger tries to eat the rabbit. The rabbit tells a lie to the tiger, which foolishly believes in the lie. The tiger dies miserably because of the lie, and the rabbit lives happily ever after.

They are going to add the story of "Kim the rabbit and Trump the tiger" to their library.

NK will not promise denuclearization for free. Trump has to give Kim a huge concession in order to secure Nobel, no, world peace. NK gets the concession and breaks the promise as they did a couple of times so far.

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Cute story. But you forgot the last part. The part where we remove little Rocket man for deceiving us, build a yuuuge Mar-a-lago NK and it’s airport and parking lot, give everyone a job and everyone lives happily ever after.

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was Kim jung il involved? In a neutral country? Nope.

Hater's gonna hate. Trump is just one in a line of many that have brought NK to the table, as Zichi rightly noted.

And if scheduling a meeting alone is such a great accomplishment then I guess you believe that Trump probably deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

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He makes peace with one country while he makes potential war with another. I'll believe Trump is truly for world peace when he extends the same diplomacy to Ayatollah.

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they should meet in the octagon, 3x 5min rounds. winner takes all.

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That was and is the problem. lack of self awareness.

Facts don't require awareness to be facts. The GoP's version of self awareness is self-delusion.

The fact is that negotiations have been tried many many times by Republicans and Democrats, and resolutions have been reached only to be broken by NK time and time again.

Just last year and during Trump's presidency, NK was perfecting missiles and its A Bomb.

Now, NK released three individuals. How hard is it for a totalitarian to release three people from a jail. Great for those individuals, but it is no big concession. NK promised to stop testing nukes, but in reality their testing area was destroyed. So, that's no real concession either.

Kim walks across a border, great. Kim goes to Singapore to meet Trump, great for Kim. He got his wish for legitimacy.

Now, Kim is honorable, trustworthy, excellent. Kim is playing Trump like a fiddle. Everyone knows that you just need to stroke his ego a little.

It will be many years before what NK is up to is revealed. Based on history, it is just a ploy at concessions.

It is good news, and we should give peace a chance. But, don't act like this makes Trump some genius or that somehow the game is different because Trump is involved.

Trump also see this as a path to a legitimacy he desperately needs.

America and the world have been open for peace, but NK holds all the power to make peace.

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How convenient. Just like Russian collusion I’m sure liberals will spend those many years telling us that actual evidence of your false claims is “coming”

It will be many years before what NK is up to is revealed.

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How convenient.

Facts are seldom convenient. It is no claim, it is historical evidence generating pragmatism unclouded by MAGA dreams.

For you, alternative facts are extremely convenient. Reality not required.

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I’m sure liberals will spend those many years 

Can you even admit that the chance of something favorable resulting (other than some token gesture like the release of those three individuals) will be low and even extremely low?

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All praise Lord Emperor Trump!

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Sure I could, if I had loser mentality. Or if I looked to past failures as accurate predictions of a yet to be decided future. New coach, new team. Doesnt seem to matter, as liberals already saying they still wont "trust or believe" it even if we get every single thing we ask for. Good thing we just want results and dont care about anything but that.

Can you even admit that the chance of something favorable resulting (other than some token gesture like the release of those three individuals) will be low and even extremely low?

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

And if scheduling a meeting alone is such a great accomplishment then I guess you believe that Trump probably deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

Guess you missed the part where its KIM himself at the table.

And yes, if anything comes out of this, the Nobel committee will have no ethical choice but to award it to the President.

They won't of course.

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As much as I dislike DT, I hope that these two old adversaries get together and hopefully they will sit down and both back down a bit/alot and try and reconcile there differences, if DT pulls this off , well I take my hat off to him in admiration.

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As much as I dislike DT, I hope that these two old adversaries get together and hopefully they will sit down and both back down a bit/alot and try and reconcile there differences, if DT pulls this off , well I take my hat off to him in admiration.

So will I, but it will be for not messing it up. And, I will be astonished and will try to rationalize it in the only way that makes sense, Trump's ego drove him to do it. Maybe the idea of a peace prize is driving him now.

My gratitude will be to Kim for accepting peace. Sure, Kim should be seeking peace, but he has no reason to do so.

Trump doesn't get credit for doing what he should be doing, ending a war that should have ended in 1953. It is like congratulating a father for paying alimony, he is supposed to do that.

No, Kim is in the drivers seat, and we are all along for the ride. Trump can only mess it up, but that is even a bit too crass because Kim will never accept full peace, unification or get rid of his A bombs.

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after what japan and the usa did to korea neither has the right to complain about anything - let's get some justice for korea first

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Trump or Kim getting a Nobel Peace Prize would be a very sick joke, given their repugant vanity and dodgy backgrounds. Can you imagine either of these receiving such an accolade? Chancers, the pair of them.

Kim sends his people to gulags and Trump bullies and threatens his way to getting what he wants.

If the summit is to be any kind of success, they need to check their egos in at the door.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

wow, lets give gratitude to the person accepting something, while ignoring the giver? liberal logic I guess.

Thank me for allowing you to give me something that benefits me more than you. Im awesome to receive this!

CNN.com is calling Trump "Global Man of Action" in their top headline. Kinda catchy.

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Good thing for the world that no ones listening to the leftys postings or the summit would be canceled as a complete waste of time. Your fears are obvious: success with the summit, Nobel prize for Trump ( or the widespread certainty that he should have got it) and re-election in2020. Its already showed up Obama for the ineffectual 'class act' that he was as president.

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Sure I could, if I had loser mentality.

Now I'm called a loser for being rational. I feel so sad.... for the state of America.

No, I push pragmatism and facts. Things like that cause people like Trump to sweat and lie.

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Wonder what kind of concessions Pyongyang wants? It would be good if average North Koreans can benefit and not just the regime itself. These people have been brainwashed for a long time.

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Good thing for the world that no ones listening to the leftys postings or the summit would be canceled as a complete waste of time. 

They would obviously go forward because Trump needs a little me time on TV.

Your fears are obvious: success with the summit, 

You optimism shows how deluded Trump fanatics are. Ate a Trump steak lately?

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Its so interesting to see the 7 stages of grief being played out by the liberal fanatics.

Some here are still stuck on SHOCK AND DENIAL. Most are still mired in DEPRESSION, while a brave few have graduated to ACCEPTANCE AND HOPE.

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The fear IS palpable!

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It's deeply refreshing that the "wipe them off the face of the earth" crew have graduated onto liberal bashing. It shows that the fortitude and resolve of Moon and his DPRK counterparts have paid off. And those of us who advocated dialogue all along.

For it is dialogue that will bring us closer.

And I'm optimistic that dialogue will restore the Great Satan to a modicum of decency. If the DPRK can do it, so can the US - when the Trump junta is deposed by the people.

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Trump is just one in a line of many that have brought NK to the table

haha so funny, if Trump cured cancer you would probably say "yeah but what about leukemia!"

No US leader has had direct talks with an NK leader, ever. Just stop already. Next thing you will be giving Obama credit for Trump's economic policies (oh, that already happened)

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"if Trump cured cancer you would probably say "yeah but what about leukemia!"

If Trump walked on water his detractors would be complaining he didn't swim.

Oh my...

American detainees released, media bias still prevails

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkWYPUzq_10

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Geraldo Rivera: Trump attained a tremendous triumph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPzp6_336E4

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TRUMP HELPS FREE AMERICANS FROM NORTH KOREA AMID PEACE TALKS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsdSjanPI2c

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Clinton struck a deal with NK when he was president. It collapsed when Bush took office. I think part of the mistrust we have for NK is because of situations like this.

So let’s review what we know...

NK greatly accelerated their nuke program when Trump took over. They tested more missiles in Trump’s first year than 8 years under Obama. The assumption is that NK is a nuclear power now.

NK meets with China. NK begins a reconciliation with the South and talks with Trump are announced.

My guess is that Un will sit across the table from Trump as the leader of a nuclear nation and will make his positions based on such. The hard part is waiting to hear just what they are.

My other guess is that this would have played out regardless of who was President. The problem from the beginning was that a military response wasn’t an option, so Trump’s threats were empty and everyone but his base understood that. Sanctions are expected but China and Russia helped to mitigate the damage, and China will never let NK collapse financially due to the refugee crisis that would happen right after.

The change was about NK becoming a nuclear power. If Clinton were in office I think the meeting would be between her and Un. NK is finally capable of some pretty horrorific things outside of their borders and that’s the big change they were working towards.

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@bones

@extanker

so are you saying that a man with no major accomplishment will have accomplished something by accomplishing nothing?

Well if that’s your logic I am not surprised:-/

trump supporters usually have Twilight zone logic.

Doing something that has never been able to be done before, yes that is an accomplishment. Even if Trump sits down at the table with Kim, they end up arguing and no agreement is made, the sitting down face to face with the leader of North Korea for the first time in HISTORY is an accomplishment. Just because you don't like the guy, doesn't negate the meaning of the word.

I think someone here has some twilight zone logic, but its not me.

It's also funny how if you don't hate every single thing Trump does, you are suddenly labeled a 'Trump supporter'. I think he does as much boneheaded stuff as the next guy, but I'm also able to see reality without the tinge of the far left colored glasses and able to recognize the rare times when he has actually done something that might have a positive outcome. This is one of them.

As someone who has personal experience on the Korea peninsula, I am about as trusting of the Kim regime as I am of trusting a liberal to support my right to own an AR-15, but I am still hoping for the best.

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extanker, well said. Im in the same position - not a huge Trump fan but automatically labelled as one if not following the Liberal line.

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After leaving from historical nuclear pact signed between Iran And six nations including United States,now The trouble maker Donald wants To meet Kim.Can we trust this TV man? Any agreement between Kim And this kama sutura Man should be signed In The presence of Russia And China.Donald can not play Hell against Kim.

of course we need peace.if there Is any agreement United States should withdraw all

ameriçan from this région.( Japan And South Korea)

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Se are no so sûre that this man Donald Trump Will stay till The official terms Is expired.

since he Is having some mental problems like his pecular hair style And often mental troubles,he won't stay till for The full terms And obviously there Will be another élection To choose a News President .Whatever The agreement he signes with Kim has To be

renewed or removed.

is he ready To remove All warships And forces from South Korea And Okiniwa for kim's total dénucléarisation ?Can he stop from now onwards All these joint naval And military

exercices with South Korea? He often changes his statements And words.As said by Mr.Kim that The western countries would not have destroyed Iraq And Lybia ,If these two countries had nuclear Bombs.Now they want To destroy Syria And Iran because these two countries are against The Israelis illégal occupation of Palestine.These western countries

never asked Israel to free All occupied territories of Palestine.I wish To Tell here that Israel remain as a big Karma for world Peace .

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Had a vision of this last night....

It'll be a grand Ceremony, with Trump waiting on the Tarmac for the NK plane to land. It'll land, and taxi over to the meeting place, then Boom! Kim will deliver his Nuke, wiping out the US President , and most of Singapore dealing a huge blow to the Western Financial System, whilst he's sitting comfortably within his bunker, and preparing Launching the remaining Missiles he has towards Japan, S.Korea and the US.

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I thought all Nobel prize awards had been cancelled this year due to being nobbled by some nob activity between some members.... or was that just the Literature prize ? (or has the rest not been published yet).

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Jeeez, the hair alone in the photo speaks volumes!!! The clowns control the fate of nuclear war!!!! Good luck with that!!!

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Two totalitarian despots meeting in another totalitarian nation for a cup of tea. These two bullies better watch themselves - walking on the grass or not flushing the toilets will get you beat up in totalitarian Singapore. The founder of Singapore has a personality cult and so do Kim and the traitor Trump. This is not like the 80s where it was democracy and Communism meeting in summits or dialog. Reagan and Gorbachev this ain't.

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I like those pictures for this article. Looks like high school senior photos. All they need are captions.

Kim: "I'm your friend. Trust me."

Trump: "#fakenews"

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Good stuff. I hope it can be pulled off, whether with Trump's support, or in spite of his bumbling. Good luck!

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