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U.S. abortions rise: 1 in 5 pregnancies terminated in 2020

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Safe, legal and rare was the best policy. Now the right wants to ban all abortion and the left wants abortion even during viability. I can’t support either side.

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I basically don’t want to pay for the consequences of other people’s choices - people should pay for the choices they make themselves, in principle. Of course there are extreme exceptions.

But having seen women go through miscarriage, there is something that really sucks about seeing other people elect to terminate pregnancies, or seem to take pride in the idea that killing unborn babies is their right.

Ok. It’s your body, your choice. But I don’t want to pay a single yen for that sort of thinking.

It takes two to tango, but don’t bring us third parties into it.

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We all make choices in our lives, and having a child is one of them, my feelings are when a woman makes that choice she needs to be fully aware of the responsibilities, I do accept the fact that some are forced to or even sadly raped in some cases, some also may be faced with medical complications, only then I agree that a woman can have an abortion if they choose to.

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I am very much "pro choice" ... but those numbers are quite disturbing. Abortion is not and should not be used as a form of contraception.

Mr Kipling, if you're pro-choice, you shouldn't be disturbed, because that means you don't recognise the fetus as a human. However, it's good to be disturbed. That means you are actually pro-life, but haven't quite realised it. I love many of your posts, by the way.

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When the going gets tough! the tough is giving up and leaving a life behind.

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I just wish that all of the people who oppose abortion showed as much zeal when it came to raising children.

We do.

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Fighto!Today  05:50 pm JST

Your post, and those of other hardline "pro-choicers" (noting the irony that the babies don't have a choice) just reek of narrow-mindedness.

Says the individual who states "the whole point of sex is to create a baby."

Did you sleep through biology class at school?

The fundamental point of sex is to create a new life. The fact that is feels good and is fun is an incentive to do it, but the recreational side of it isn't the initial purpose. Just bear in mind that there's often a risk, even if tiny, that sex will lead to a baby. If you can't be responsible for the consequences of your actions, don't do it. The principle isn't that hard to grasp.

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For those parrotting the "women's right to choose" mantra- could you be specific as to how far that extends? Are there any exceptions? How about gender selection abortions (very common in certain cultures where females are not valued)- no problem?

Are you serious? Right to choose is right to choose, no questions or cherry picked examples!

No exceptions! That is what "right to choose" is all about!

Giving options, is totally another subject all together. But at the end, it is a woman's choice! People who come up with esoteric or off the wall examples are just showing their hypocrisy about "women's rights"

I suggest that men who do not 100% support women's right to choose, be made into eunuchs' by no choice of their own. (Meaning FORCED surgery) so the world doesnt have to deal with their off-spring! They should have no rights what-so-ever to reproduce!

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Incredible that leftist extremists support the ending of a fetus' life but go nutso over the constitutional right to own firearms.

Incredible that this is how you have chosen to represent this complex and sensitive issue.

One of the main problems in this whole debate is the inane framing of the issue into left vs right. I know plenty of people who traditionally vote 'right' but support the right to have an abortion. Similarly I have some 'left' friends who are uncomfortable with abortion.

The main reason I see affecting their stance on this issue in particular is how religious they are. Those more religious are generally against abortion, whereas those who have very little to no relationship with religion see it very differently.

Simplifying this issue in a flippant way does very little but illustrate just how far we have fallen as people able to debate issues rationally.

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What if that same woman chooses to decline the covid vaccine?

What if the man chooses to decline the covid vaccine? It's HER choice, or HIS choice!

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@Yubaru: My statement was totally rhetorical. I am totally pro-choice. No ifs, buts or maybes. Totally agree with you.

Got ya! Thank you!

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the women who become pregnant as a result of rape or abuse should have practiced personal responsibility?

The complete straw man argument about viability.

1 in 5 women who get pregnant are not raped or abused, lol, talk about straw man.

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Wakarimasen- data indicates that, per capita, the black abortion rate is 4 times that of whites.

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Surprised we don't get these numbers broken down by racial origin - every other number you get from the US is.

My guess is the majority of these are black mothers aborting their kids - this is essentially state sponsored genocide of the black unborn.

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For those parrotting the "women's right to choose" mantra- could you be specific as to how far that extends? Are there any exceptions? How about gender selection abortions (very common in certain cultures where females are not valued)- no problem?

The life-positive side is constantly having to defend various scenarios. How about you follow the same rule?

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Women's bodies, women's choice.

What if that same woman chooses to decline the covid vaccine?

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Nemo; the vast majority of people would allow abortion in the case of abuse/incest/rape, myself included. Particularly if it can be done quickly. That is a trope that does not have any real traction. So, if an exception were made to allow abortion for those unfortunate women, would YOU then agree that there should be no abortions past the point a fetus becomes viable (usually about 24 weeks)? That seems to be a reasonable compromise as a starting point.

And for those who say sex is all about procreation, it is complicated. It isn't, but it is also not all about recreation either. We all know that there is a chance of pregnancy, however small, whenever we do the act. So we are taking the risk that a child will be created.

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They are quite obviously a genetically distinct living being. They are literally the most vulnerable among us. They should have the opportunity to thrive.

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Your post, and those of other hardline "pro-choicers" (noting the irony that the babies don't have a choice) just reek of narrow-mindedness.

Says the individual who states "the whole point of sex is to create a baby."

For most people, it is not.

A belief from another century that reeks of narrow-mindedness and misogyny.

Women's bodies - Women's choice.

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If US want to end abortions, it is very easy. Education on how to exercise sexuality responsibly and facilitating access to contraceptive methods are the key.

Does the morning after pill sounds strange to the medievals of GOP??...

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I would be willing to hazard a guess that these are all the arguments of men.

Think whatever you like. You are aware, though, that there's an enormous number of women who are pro-life, right?

My wife and I are waiting to adopt a baby, so we're ready to put our money where our mouths are. Your post, and those of other hardline "pro-choicers" (noting the irony that the babies don't have a choice) just reek of narrow-mindedness.

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So these adoption posters gonna put their money where their keyboard fingers are? (Spoiler alert: they aren’t.)

the women who become pregnant as a result of rape or abuse should have practiced personal responsibility?

The complete straw man argument about viability....

I would be willing to hazard a guess that these are all the arguments of men.

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I am very much "pro choice" ... but those numbers are quite disturbing. Abortion is not and should not be used as a form of contraception.

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theResidentToday  04:23 pm JST

@Algernon: Yep, A woman's body, her choice. Unless as pointed out YOU want to finance these unwanted pregnancies.

Ever heard of personal responsibility? The whole point of sex is to create a child, so anyone who does it without the proper precautions to avoid pregnancy in the first place is a fool, and has to own the consequences of their actions. Why should taxpayers always pay for others' mistakes? As I said above, there are huge numbers of people who can't have children of their own and are more than happy to pay for the medical expenses etc to ensure an unwanted child is born and has a loving home to go to.

For the record, a few members of my extended family have adopted babies over the years, and I cannot fathom how someone would just toss them away before term out of some distorted political ideology. This isn't about religion - I'm not particularly religious. It's about respecting an unborn child's right to a future. He or she didn't choose to be conceived, as you and I didn't, but once conception has occurred, that child has as much right to be born as anyone now living outside the womb. I accept there are cases where abortion may be necessary and accept those as exceptions that prove the rule, but I'm wholeheartedly opposed to abortion because a woman/couple doesn't want to raise a child. There are plenty of people who would be happy to do it for them and give their children a loving home.

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@Yubaru: My statement was totally rhetorical. I am totally pro-choice. No ifs, buts or maybes. Totally agree with you.

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A woman's choice to abort a viable child? This is a radical position that is held by very few Americans. Most people would support abortion in the first trimester, but after that...support falls dramatically. So please, no more bumper sticker sloganeering.

Anyone who would support a woman deciding to terminate a pregnancy in the 7th month or later, when the child is completely whole, is a monster. By that point, barring risk of death, the option to abort should be removed.

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Whatever your position, I think most can agree that the less abortions, the better.

The best way to reduce abortions is to provide good sex/health education, make contraception easily available, and support mothers/families through and after birth (health care, child support, child care leave etc.).

The countries with the lowest abortion rates are those that address these issues. These matters should be, but unfortunately are not, non-controversial. Whatever your view on when or whose choice it should be - if the focus was on prevention of unwanted pregnancies, the results would be favorable to everyone.

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When you understand that so many couples who can't have a child of their own would give anything to adopt one, yet so many unborn babies are tossed away for convenience because, ya know, my body my choice, the world is on the brink of hell. Unborn babies have just as much right to live as anyone else.

Let me guess, you are a guy, and you want to dictate what choices a woman makes. Yet you would scream bloody murder if a woman told you to get a vasectomy before you had sex with her!

I am a guy, and 100% support a woman's right to choose.

Whether I agree with abortion or not does not matter! I am not a hypocrite, it's a woman's choice, and I support that 100%. I believe that guys who talk about supporting women's rights, but then come out as anti-abortion, are hypocrites!

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Unless as pointed out YOU want to finance these unwanted pregnancies.

Nope, even if the financial backing existed, no one has the right to dictate what a woman, or man for that matter, chooses to do with their bodies.

Providing options is a different story, yet no woman should be forced to have to carry to term any child, if they dont want it, even if someone pays for everything!

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@Algernon: Yep, A woman's body, her choice. Unless as pointed out YOU want to finance these unwanted pregnancies.

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I just wish that all of the people who oppose abortion showed as much zeal when it came to raising children.

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Just to be scientifically correct, the fetus is not the woman's body.

Just how ignorant are people today? Let's see you raise a fetus without a "woman's body"

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Women in China have more "rights" to their own bodies regarding abortions than the US.

Sad fact, but true!

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Algernon LaCroixToday 03:51 pm JST

When you understand that so many couples who can't have a child of their own would give anything to adopt one, yet so many unborn babies are tossed away for convenience because, ya know, my body my choice, the world is on the brink of hell. Unborn babies have just as much right to live as anyone else.

Exactly,very well said.

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When you understand that so many couples who can't have a child of their own would give anything to adopt one, yet so many unborn babies are tossed away for convenience because, ya know, my body my choice, the world is on the brink of hell. Unborn babies have just as much right to live as anyone else.

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Incredible that leftist extremists support the ending of a fetus' life but go nutso over the constitutional right to own firearms.

Especially when looking at the below figure, one must ask, Doesn't America love its children?

more than 930,000 abortions in the U.S. in 2020.

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Women's bodies, women's choice.

Religious creeps should butt out unless they are prepared to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to every woman to raise each child.

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