U.S. begins troop withdrawal from Afghanistan

The Taliban have won

Which President is commander in chief of the military the Taliban defeated? Say it, I know you can do it.

Seems Burning Bush, zichi and Chip Star would rather have us in Afghanistan forever.

Good thing ya'll ain't in charge.

Since no-one is releasing any prisoners, I guess the US can go ahead and prime the pumps.

The British in the 1880s , the Soviets in the late 70s /80s left with their tails between their crotches and bloody noses.

Now it the US's turn to experience the humiliating taste of defeat , or as they phrase it ............withdrawal , peace agreement

Now it the US's turn to experience the humiliating taste of defeat

Nothing humiliating about pulling troops out of a country where we've been for 20 years and could bomb back to the Stone Age if we wanted. Trump, however, is not interested in killing millions of people, but is interested in getting our troops out of there. We're not going to police Afghanistan any more.

Now it the US's turn to experience the humiliating taste of defeat 

Defeat?

The whole region is in chaos. Mission Accomplished.

invalid CSRF

Great! Our troops can leave that quagmire, good riddance!

The whole region is in chaos. Mission Accomplished

Exactly!

Great! Our troops can leave that quagmire, good riddance!

I thought you supported Bush 2 ( a president you and your non-partisan historians regard as a successful president) and his wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

When did you change opinion?

I thought you supported Bush 2

Yes! I did originally.

When did you change opinion?

Many reasons.

I thought you supported Bush 2 

Yes! I did originally.

Have your non-partisan historians who regard him as successful president also changed their tune?

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¥2 trillion in costs for what? Started by a republican president and ended by another one.

The Obama Admin. Decided to keep 8,400 indefinitely and at a cost of $741 billion that was maintained until now.

I thought you supported Bush 2

Yes! I did originally.

When did you change opinion?

Many reasons.

Must be great being so easily fooled. Whoop, cheer and flag hug when a new war starts with some backward tribesmen, do the same when the army abandons the quagmire they've created. In the meantime blame it on someone who neither started it nor ran away from it.

Must be great being so easily fooled.

I’m sure Biden, Clinton, Schumer, Kerry and Reid think so

Whoop, cheer and flag hug when a new war starts with some backward tribesmen, do the same when the army abandons the quagmire they've created.

And that Obama and these people continued. The very same people that put together the disastrous Iranian deal

In the meantime blame it on someone who neither started it nor ran away from it.

I blame both Bush and Obama. Double your pleasure...or anger.

But Obama did take out Bin Laden.

Rob O’Neill did, a staunch Trump supporter.

But the defense budget under Obama was less than that now by Trump which is now $1 trillion

That’s because Obama dismantled our military, and Trump is spending all that money to rebuild an upgrade to military, so yes, it’s going to cost a lot more and It’s money well spent, I might say.

Cut and run in Syria, now cut and run in Afghanistan, next it will be cut and run on NATO...

Trump following the orders of his Master Putin...

@fizzbit

The whole region is in chaos. Mission Accomplished.

The whole region has been in chaos for a long time, and if you want to spread blame, you can distribute that to all US presidents of both fake parties. Starting the Reagan, who made the tragic mistake of arming the mujahedin with Stinger missiles.... a boost for the worldwide jihad that changed things forever.

But we (starting with the media) have short memories, dont we.

Cut and run in Syria, now cut and run in Afghanistan,

You don't get it, do you? We're done with the endless wars. Trump has got the troops out of the most dangerous areas in Syria and temporarily re-deployed some of them around the oil fields. Not that we need the oil, but with the current economic crisis gripping most of the planet now due to the panicking idiots, a lot of people are happy to see the re-deployment. They're not going to be there forever though.

Nah, Trump's got the other NATO members finally paying more for their defense, so we'll probably keep troops there for awhile.

Why don't you people understand? This is capitalism. Canon Fodder has nothing to do with this. It is economics, and I am sorry, but none of us on this site can do anything about it.

I am glad I am retired and that there is no one in my family at risk for being anywhere near a place like Afghanistan.

Cut and run in Syria, now cut and run in Afghanistan,

You don't get it, do you? We're done with the endless wars. Trump has got the troops out of the most dangerous areas in Syria and temporarily re-deployed some of them around the oil fields. Not that we need the oil, but with the current economic crisis gripping most of the planet now due to the panicking idiots, a lot of people are happy to see the re-deployment. They're not going to be there forever though.

What you don't get is he's cowardly abandoned our allies and friends - and the thousands of civilian casualties in Syria, and next in Afghanistan are all his responsibility...

next it will be cut and run on NATO*

Nah, Trump's got the other NATO members finally paying more for their defense, so we'll probably keep troops there for awhile.

That's not what Putin's bargain was for - out of NATO too, for Russia's 2020 campaign help...it's in the minutes of the meetings and phone calls - the one's Trump had destroyed...

@Zaphod

The whole region has been in chaos for a long time, and if you want to spread blame, you can distribute that to all US presidents of both fake parties. Starting the Reagan, who made the tragic mistake of arming the mujahedin with Stinger missiles.... a boost for the worldwide jihad that changed things forever.

But we (starting with the media) have short memories, dont we.

No argument here on that.

then the same would apply to Trump and did not kill the terrorist al-Baghdadi?

I agree, like to shake the hand of the guy that did though.

But if Trump no longer wishes to police the world or maintain the 883 oversea bases why does America need such a massive military?

Why? Why have a lock on your door or the top of the line security? There are a lot of people that would love to destroy the US, I prefer to have the strongest military to make sure that doesn’t ever happen. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Trump basically played copycat. He ordered around the same number of planes and same number of ships as Obama had already planned for.

Obama didn’t though and Trump did.

Nothing humiliating about pulling troops out of a country where we've been for 20 years and could bomb back to the Stone Age if we wanted

I heard that "Stone Age" thing from armchair imperialists a lot over the years. Usually, they had little grasp of world affairs, history or lack of education. Some of them said they could do that to my home country, as well.

Anyone who knows any history of the region in question, will know that it's impossible to run it the way you want it.

I'm not saying that the way things are done in Afghanistan is in any way good. Quite the opposite. But it's never been resolved by warfare and threatening to bomb any country "back to the Stone Age" is for kids.

Was it all worth it, I wonder?

The whole region has been in chaos for a long time, and if you want to spread blame, you can distribute that to all US presidents of both fake parties. Starting the Reagan, who made the tragic mistake of arming the mujahedin with Stinger missiles.... a boost for the worldwide jihad that changed things forever.

Keep going back for mistakes. The US was supplying Saddam before Reagan.

Glad to read a non-partisan view of this - plenty of blame to go round for Republicans and Democrats. That said, you can guarantee easily fooled partisans will immediately do a screeching 180 if Trump changes his mind/has his mind changed.