U.S., Britain rush supplies to virus-stricken India

oldman_13

And then people here criticize Japan's handling of the coronavirus.

LOL! More faulty "What about...." logic!

You fell to mention that one reason for this problem in India is the Indian government was accused of down playing pandemic and hiding the true number. Looks very familiar like Abe/Suga.

Bolsonaro in Brazil is on the chopping block next.

All those trump supporting leaders Modi, Bolsonaro, Putin, and Abe are all facing the music now!

And then people here criticize Japan's handling of the coronavirus.

Why the Second Wave of the 1918 Flu Pandemic Was So Deadly - The first strain of the 1918 flu wasn’t particularly deadly. Then it came back in the fall with a vengeance.

Something worth mentioning about the Spanish Flu is that the vast majority died from bacterial infections.

So becsuse of antibiotics, we should not expect that to happen again.

India is what happens when there's runaway spread of the virus

It's a cautionary tale of letting the virus run free spreading

India is what happens when there is not a free flow of information.

India is what happens when there's runaway spread of the virus

It's a cautionary tale of letting the virus run free spreading

Wrong; viruses mutate in the face of adversity in order to get around vaccines. A vaccine will create variants. Just look at the Spanish Flu: there was never a vaccine, it simply ran its course.

First of all, the Spanish Flu ran its course while killing 50 million people along the way. (Are you willing to kill 50 million people to let this Covid virus run its course?) And yes, the Spanish Flu had multiple strains/variants even in the absence of a vaccine. (Why would anyone think it would not?)

"Why the Second Wave of the 1918 Flu Pandemic Was So Deadly - The first strain of the 1918 flu wasn’t particularly deadly. Then it came back in the fall with a vengeance."

https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence

Historians now believe that the fatal severity of the Spanish flu’s “second wave” was caused by a mutated virus spread by wartime troop movements.

Second, you're wrong. Viruses mutate regardless of anything. Whenever a virus copies itself (replicating), there's always a chance of copying errors - that's why it's called random mutations. (Replication is not perfect 100% of the time.) Most mutations amount to nothing much, but a small percentage amounts to something significant. But the more you spread the virus, you increase the number of times the virus makes copies, resulting in that small percentage amounting to a big absolute number. That's why don't spread the virus - don't increase the number of times the virus makes copies.

Third, the "adversity" you're talking about is natural selection - but you understand it wrong. Adversity (aka natural selection) selects the "fittest" variants (aka random mutations) in a given environment - that's why natural selection is called "survival of the fittest." But adversity (aka natural selection) does NOT prevent the creation of variants (aka random mutations). As mentioned, random mutations happen all the time - natural selection merely survives the fittest of the mutations. Natural selection does NOT prevent variants/mutations.

Fourth, a vaccine by itself is not "adversity." A vaccine itself does not "adverse" the original virus from replicating (it doesn't interact with the original virus at all), but a vaccine does train your body's immunity how to fight the original virus. Your body's immunity is the one that "adverse" the original virus from further replication - ergo your immunity is the "adversity."

But you'd want it that way! You'd want your immunity to be an "adversity" to viruses - because without your immunity, you'd die!

Wonder if China and Russia will send any Sinovac or Sputnik....

One thing we do know, if Trump was still in office the only way Modi would get any vaccine is if he traded it for some fake dirt on Hunter...

That Sputnik will be manufactured locally...

https://www.news18.com/news/india/no-supply-constraint-dr-reddys-may-roll-out-sputnik-v-by-quarter-end-ceo-deepak-sapra-3660518.html

Well if Trump was in Office he would have immediately lifted the ban on some of the vaccine raw material..that ban anyway impacts the vaccines supplies to the developed nations only..last year Trump requested Hydroxychloroquine and Modi allowed the exports, Biden off-course has very conveniently forgotten that.

Yea, and that HCQ sure kept Trump from getting the virus, huh....

If Trump were still in office he'd be bragging about his golf handicap while more Americans and Indians were dying of COVID...

But he might send Modi a case of Clorox and a box of blue lights...

its wearied information about usa on India they use them for one reason and give them everything before anyone to be like them ( in blind mode and i don't understand what happen ) and use there name in the news like they win a war against who need the cure or help in a war ( like always)

stormcrowToday 12:17 pm JST

"The U.S. and Britain rushed ventilators and vaccine materials to India . . . France, Germany and Canada have also pledged support to India . . . "

Where's China? What's China doing? After all, the're the ones who created this mess in the first place. Why aren't they helping to clean up their mess?

Ping AnToday 01:03 pm JST

Wonder if China and Russia will send any Sinovac or Sputnik....

China has arranged 800 Oxygen Concentrators and airlifted to Delhi (from HK) on 26 April. Another 10,000 will dispatch within this week.

China is busy with its propaganda machinery

Chinese airline suspends cargo flights rushing COVID-19 medical supplies to India

China's state-run Sichuan Airlines has suspended all its cargo flights to India for 15 days, causing disruption to private traders' efforts to procure oxygen concentrators and other COVID-19 medical supplies from China. The company part of the airline cited COVID-19 situation in India. This comes after China offered "support and assistance" to deal with the second COVID-19 wave.

https://inshorts.com/en/news/chinese-airline-suspends-cargo-flights-rushing-covid19-medical-supplies-to-india-1619431351411?utm_source=news_share

Their closeness is superficial: China on US' response to India's COVID-19 crisis

Chinese state media said, "This pandemic shows that the West's getting closer to India is more in a geopolitical sense." "Their closeness to each other is fragile and superficial," it added. Earlier, China's state-run airline suspended its cargo flights that were rushing medical supplies to India.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/china-looks-to-stoke-u-s-india-tension-over-slow-virus-response

Are you suggesting that the virus we have now in Japan is the same one we had in April 2020?

It isn't. That one is long gone, we now have variants, each one behaving differently.

Yes, it is the same virus in every kind of virological classification rules you can find. At least in any that is useful in any way, you could say every single virion isolated from a person is a "new" virus and behaves differently (thus the quasispecies swarm) but that would be meanigless.

Again, if you think otherwise it is not important, the scientific consensus is clear and the virus is still the same strain, showing the typical variability from RNA viruses but still considered even inside the same serotype of the same strain of virus. You provided no source that says this is a "new virus" different from SARS-CoV-2, do you intend people just to believe you based on your authority?

"India had its 'Mission Accomplished' moment with Covid and are suffering for it."

Modi is dumber than Dubya.

Dubya at least provided some laughs whenever he opened his mouth. Modi is too thin skinned to crack jokes on himself, the only laughs that he provides is when he tries to speak English in his vernacular accent.

The hypocrisy and sycophancy is amazing here..

"The standard attack on Santana Dharma, why not mention the religious festival which is currently underway.."

All Modi has to do is to impose a nationwide lockdown just like last year. But you omitted mentioning that Modi wants to win the election going on in West Bengal right now for which rallies are a must. Where both Amit Shah and Modi were seen without a mask and boasting about the number of folks they were able to gather.

"This T20 circus should be permanently canceled..but given the IPL is worth billions (in USD), it is not under presuure and barring maybe some newspaper..it gets all the coverage it will even need..it's all about the money..and the media in general works, rather only works for you know what.."

You do know who is the Secretary of BCCI right? Yes, Jay Shah the son of Modi's right hand man.

"Now this is as fake as it gets"

Anything that is inconvenient to Modi is fake news as per die hard bhakts.

Wonder if China and Russia will send any Sinovac or Sputnik....

One thing we do know, if Trump was still in office the only way Modi would get any vaccine is if he traded it for some fake dirt on Hunter...

That Sputnik will be manufactured locally...

https://www.news18.com/news/india/no-supply-constraint-dr-reddys-may-roll-out-sputnik-v-by-quarter-end-ceo-deepak-sapra-3660518.html

Well if Trump was in Office he would have immediately lifted the ban on some of the vaccine raw material..that ban anyway impacts the vaccines supplies to the developed nations only..last year Trump requested Hydroxychloroquine and Modi allowed the exports, Biden off-course has very conveniently forgotten that.

Wonder if China and Russia will send any Sinovac or Sputnik....

China has arranged 800 Oxygen Concentrators and airlifted to Delhi (from HK) on 26 April. Another 10,000 will dispatch within this week.

I think there are other "hygienic commodities" that India could do with.

Japan should help out too. they have stacks of vaccines just sat there, and no plan to use them.

Nice one.

Japan should help out too. they have stacks of vaccines just sat there, and no plan to use them.

It turns out that vitamin D deficiency is extremely high in India, I think due to their diet and avoidance of sun exposure...

Avoidance of sun exposure..what ??.. so where does that light/dark Indian tan comes from..

They can afford a space program and nuclear weapons, but apparently not medical equipment. Once again it's the Anglo-Saxon nations that have to rescue them

Well the Anglo-Saxon nations have been getting vaccinated for decades from vaccines made in India..post something more palatable.

France, Germany and Canada have also pledged support to India..

Almost half of the Canadians half been vaccinated by vaccines made in India, had India banned the exports, this hyped minimal support would not have been forthcoming..

India's Hindu-nationalist government is facing growing criticism for allowing mass gatherings across the country in recent weeks..

The standard attack on Santana Dharma, why not mention the religious festival which is currently underway..

The glitzy Indian Premier League is also under pressure, with a leading newspaper suspending coverage..

This T20 circus should be permanently canceled..but given the IPL is worth billions (in USD), it is not under presuure and barring maybe some newspaper..it gets all the coverage it will even need..it's all about the money..and the media in general works, rather only works for you know what..

On Sunday, Twitter confirmed it withheld dozens of tweets -- including from opposition lawmakers

Now this is as fake as it gets, the lawmakers are 100% with the government, with the High Courts threatening to hang anyone who gets in the way of critical supplies..

Haha.....! Another trump moment!

The same poster told us the virus was pretty much burned out last year.

The conspiracy theorists aren’t doing too well on this one.

That was predictable.

"The U.S. and Britain rushed ventilators and vaccine materials to India . . . France, Germany and Canada have also pledged support to India . . . "

Where's China? What's China doing? After all, the're the ones who created this mess in the first place. Why aren't they helping to clean up their mess?

Once again it's the Anglo-Saxon nations that have to rescue them.

Bigots will be bigots!!!

India had its 'Mission Accomplished' moment with Covid and are suffering for it.

Good on the US and other nations to help with equipment , the scale of this outbreak seems to huge and requires a strong concentrated effort.

Um, no. Dr. Fauchi says you’re wrong. Viruses that cannot find a host because people are vaccinated means the virus cannot mutate.

Also, if the infected all passed away before passing it on, or all viable hosts left before being infected. All these scenarios mean a virus can't replicate itself in a new host which would create a new mutation.

@Joe Blow

Wrong; viruses mutate in the face of adversity in order to get around vaccines. A vaccine will create variants. Just look at the Spanish Flu: there was never a vaccine, it simply ran its course.

Wrong! @Joe is just blowing hot air.

But these three versions of the virus are just a few among thousands of SARS-CoV-2 variants that have sprung up since the pandemic began. “We are creating variants like gangbusters right now because we have so many humans infected with SARS CoV-2,” says Siobain Duffy, a vial evolutionary biologist at Rutgers School of Environmental and Biological Sciences.

Oh......................my!!!

The coronavirus is mutating—but what determines how quickly?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/the-coronavirus-is-mutating-but-what-determines-how-quickly

Um, no. Dr. Fauchi says you’re wrong. Viruses that cannot find a host because people are vaccinated means the virus cannot mutate.

The dangers of having a large mostly unvaccinated population like India means that virus will mutate faster eventually creating a more contagious and deadly variant.

Wrong; viruses mutate in the face of adversity in order to get around vaccines. A vaccine will create variants. Just look at the Spanish Flu: there was never a vaccine, it simply ran its course.

Once again it's the Anglo-Saxon nations that have to rescue them.

Well, the Anglo-Saxons did carve up India and leave it in a mess a few decades ago.

Modi, Bolsonaro, Trump - beginning to see a pattern here.

Once again it's the Anglo-Saxon nations that have to rescue them.

Dogwhistle! Walkies! Come on Rover!

They can afford a space program and nuclear weapons, but apparently not medical equipment. Once again it's the Anglo-Saxon nations that have to rescue them.

Wonder if China and Russia will send any Sinovac or Sputnik....

One thing we do know, if Trump was still in office the only way Modi would get any vaccine is if he traded it for some fake dirt on Hunter...

I can already foresee how shameless Modi's IT brigade will spin this -'Modi helped so many countries using his vaccine diplomacy that is why India got help from other countries when it was in trouble.'

Never mind the fact that all countries take care of their citizens first. But then, they don't have megalomaniacs in power who would do anything for headlines if it translates into a few more votes.

The right and humane thing to do.

Fun fact! The Indian variant has already reached the shores of Japan.

The dangers of having a large mostly unvaccinated population like India means that virus will mutate faster eventually creating a more contagious and deadly variant.