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U.S., China remain at odds on numerous issues as Blinken finishes first day of meetings in Beijing

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An unapologetic assertion of Democracy, human rights and the rules based order.

Of course the CCP won’t like hearing it, but the rest of the world will, especially when it is asserted in the heart of Chinese hegemony.

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They put on a good show so far. Now Wang Yi should meet with him.

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The Chinese economy is in free fall right now, there are record numbers of young unemployed university graduates, about 20 million, who cannot find work. Western companies are leaving the country in record numbers because of the CCP's meddling in their businesses, 1000's have left or are moving, and going to India, Vietnam and other countries. And do not even ask about the corruption and shoddy infrastructure, so many of the high rise towers one sees in all the modern cities are falling apart because of corrupt builders and the kick backs they have to pay local officials.

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Of course they're at odds. China wants everybody, including the countries that already happen to be there, out of the South China Sea so China can declare it as its own territory.

Who could agree to that?!

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@RodneyToday 11:51 am JST

America lost, China won. USA controls world media so it is probably a draw.

IOW, "if I jump and down enough, I can claim victory while the adults in the room are busy".

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Slow and steady is the way to proceed.

The US secretary of state and Chinese foreign minister on Sunday (Jun 18) held what both called candid and constructive talks on their differences from Taiwan to trade but seemed to agree on little beyond keeping the conversation going with an eventual meeting in Washington.

Speaking after a 5-1/2 hour meeting followed by a dinner, US and Chinese officials both emphasised their desire for stable and predictable relations, but China was clear it regards Taiwan as the most important issue and greatest risk.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/antony-blinken-qin-gang-meeting-china-beijing-candid-talks-3570716

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@EyesWideOpenToday 01:59 pm JST

I am all for "managing competition in the most responsible way possible" just so long as Blinken and co shut up on democracy, human rights and the so-called rules-based order. The USA is currently in no moral high ground to to lecture anyone else on any of the above.

Wrong. Press Freedom rankings don't lie and China is at the rock bottom. That being said, we know China is a human rights abusing dictatorship, so it makes more sense to setup guardrails then to waste time with hot air.

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EastmanToday 01:09 pm JST

another US defeat after Afghanistan?

it seems so.

How ever will we survive? Oh wait, we don't even give a crap because dollar strong, stock market up, and troops safe.

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I'm sure these meetings are being followed by a certain someone in the Kremlin.

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken met on Monday with Wang Yi, the top foreign policy official in China, in the second day of high-level diplomatic talks in Beijing between the two governments to try to rebuild channels of communication that crumbled during an explosive clash over a Chinese spy balloon early this year.

The talks on a rainy morning in the Diaoyutai State Guesthouse were a prelude to a likely meeting between Mr. Blinken and Xi Jinping, China’s leader, in the afternoon. The two governments have not formally announced that meeting, but American and Chinese officials have spoken of the planning for it in optimistic tones in recent days. They have said the two days of diplomacy in Beijing would ideally lead to a series of visits soon to the Chinese capital by other cabinet-level American officials.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/18/world/asia/blinken-china-xi-diplomacy.html

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"It has always been easy to hate and destroy. To build and to cherish is much more difficult."

I got that fortune cookie fortune the last time we went to our favorite Chinese restaurant. I wish our world leaders would take it to heart.

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China has four times the population of the USA. It also has industrious, educated people, and lots of natural resources. It is inevitable that it will have a major role in world affairs. But, will its dictatorial system of government lead it inevitably towards militarism and aggression?

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@stormcrow Here's an informative video on that matter from the Republic of China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_fDk_Y8zQI&t=167s

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I am all for "managing competition in the most responsible way possible" just so long as Blinken and co shut up on democracy, human rights and the so-called rules-based order. The USA is currently in no moral high ground to to lecture anyone else on any of the above.

Ok, maybe they could lecture others on their rules-based order. Would anyone outside of the "western minority" care to listen? I highly doubt it. When the rules are ONLY for others, countries will wise up quickly.

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"We’re coming to Beijing with a realistic, confident approach and a sincere desire to manage our competition in the most responsible way possible,” said Daniel Kritenbrink, the top U.S. diplomat for East Asia and the Pacific.

Hahahaha

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America lost, China won. USA controls world media so it is probably a draw.

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another US defeat after Afghanistan?

it seems so.

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there are record numbers of young unemployed university graduates, about 20 million, who cannot find work.

so they work overseas. Help foreign countries economies and build friendly ties.

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Blinken get it right as finally maybe understand that power and influence of USA is thing of past.

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Cuba got a negative mention. A longtime member of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) which displays independence and sovereignty.

Shocking.

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

Just an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.

No sale. De-dollarization.

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