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© Thomson Reuters 2024.U.S. election officials decry Trump's threat to jail them if he returns to White House
By Tim Reid and Nathan Layne WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Underworld
And yet there is no evidence of "corrupt" election officials. This is just Trump preparing another attempt at stealing the election again.
Peter Neil
he just wants some company when he’s there.
John
For starters, there was no fraud and there will not be any fraud. American elections are incredibly transparent and secure.
The idea that there was some vast conspiracy to defraud Trump and only Trump, not the down ballot Republicans who won on the same ticket is logistically so implausible as to call into question the basic cognition and sanity of anyone dumb enough to postulate it.
And while Trump could direct his DOJ to prosecute as a tool of vindictiveness, charges would have to be issued by a grand jury, not thrown out by a judge and then unanimously agreed to by a jury after a trial with witnesses and testimony where Trump himself could be called as a witness.
Good luck with that.
The real danger here is his band of self-styled citizens militia and their willingness to follow his wink and nod to commit acts of political violence on his behalf.
And he knows it. We have seen him do it before. He thinks he got away with it last time.
So he is doing it again.
aaronagstring
For me, that’s the end of the story. Any further discussion is not only unnecessary, but utterly ludicrous.
WoodyLee
The only ""corrupt election officials " the U.S. has ever had is the Candidate himself.
dagon
MAGA is turning the US into a 3rd world autocracy.
And GOP state legislators are the are the main ones who have run, and are planning to run election interference for Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/us/politics/republican-election-campaign-2024.html
Trump is all about projection, and the more he rants about election interference it means that is his Plan number 1.
WoodyLee
Trump will go down in U.S. history as one of the most "corrupt" X Presidents if not the most.
Yrral
Nobody fear insecure Trump but Republican
rocketpig
Trump will get sabotaged by his own people. As long as he gets elected, all the other wannabes like Pompei, Rubio, Cruz, Cotton, DeSantis etc have no future.
theFu
Actually, that isn't true. A number of officials related to elections in some states have been charged and brought to trial for attempted election fraud. They weren't anyone that Trump or his team suggested, however.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-alternate-electors-indictment/
Mark Meadows and Rudy Giuliani are also charged with a number of election related crimes.
https://apnews.com/article/giuliani-2020-election-georgia-defamation-moss-freeman-6f6446c4f5224f521db8ff7763fb12d1
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/13/nx-s1-5072977/colorado-clerk-found-guilty-of-giving-election-deniers-access-to-voting-equipment A county clerk in Colorado too. She was found guilty.
So it seems the only proven election fraud was from Trump fanatics and they've been caught.
For the most part, attempts at election fraud were prevented by honest people who oversee the elections at the state level. The smart ones knew they wouldn't get away with it, Precinct results aren't counted directly by the state in most states. They were honest and refused Trumps significant efforts get get them to break their oath of office. That's what happened in Georgia.
Peter Neil
the fu nailed it.
the people indicted and charged in election crimes have all been republicans.
mic drop.
lincolnman
My, my, that's quite the 'Little Dictator" talk, even for Trump...
So he's going to "jail" people without their Constitutional right to trial by their peers and conviction based on evidence...
Just another example that MAGA-world wants to mirror Putin-world...he is a "genius" according to them...
bass4funk
Yeah, no one believes that anymore, the only people with the mic will push the narrative because they want a one-sided political narrative, everywhere else that is not the case and the voices, witnesses and testimonies say something different. The left cannot force feed or bully people into accepting a political view that they think you should accept, sorry.
Uh-huh..lol
If Trump wins, luck won’t have anything to do with his DOJ looking into this and the left can’t and won’t stop it.
No, the REAL danger is the left trying desperately to avoid being transparent and to be forthcoming with all the political hit jobs and hit list they used to go after their political opponents and the biggest threat to their authoritative establishment empire.
Just like the Dems summer of so called peaceful protests that costed the nation $1 billion and $2 billion in insured losses. This makes it the costliest civil unrest in U.S. history, surpassing the damages from the 1992 Los Angeles riots.These numbers only account for insured damages, meaning the total economic impact, including uninsured losses, business disruptions, and lost revenue. They affected multiple cities across the U.S. over several months, further compounding the overall costs and who suffered the most small minority businesses, businesses that many will never see return.
The left as well.
wallace
Trump speaking like a dictator claimed he wanted to be from day one. The election fraud came from Trump's team.
Underworld
bass4funk
It's not Trump's DOJ. The DOJ work for the people and Trump can't use it to bully his enemies.
wallace
What democrat demonstrations are you referring to?
dagon
Zzzzzz...
Trump /MAGA better bring a better game to the debate tomorrow.
I hope Harris has it in her to not back away, but to address the Trump attacks in all their absurdity.
And she has a lot of material with this election interference.
bass4funk
The real dictators are the people with the mics trying to silence the opposition. That is the biggest fear to democracy to not allow any dissension when it comes to the civil discourse.
Wick's pencil
It's the deep state's DOJ, and they go after whoever threatens the deep state.
bass4funk
Huh??? Oh, dear lord…
Hmmm..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-biden-doj-continues-its-war-on-christian-americans/ar-BB1iL6HG
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-doj-collects-list-of-every-person-who-followed-retweeted-or-mentioned-donald-trump-on-twitter/ar-AA1kJUTw
wallace
The Democrats did not organize any demonstrations during 2020. Your claim is make-believe.
bass4funk
The left will wake up and not too happy either.
I think you mean Harris. She’s going to focus so much on not making a mistake it will cause her to make mistakes
50 days without a single conference and one interview with her sideman Walz doesn’t give a lot of hope.
Her star is losing its shiny luster.
TokyoLiving
Kamala vs Trump is like AIDS vs Cancer..
LOL
ClippetyClop
Lol, what feebleness. How does Hunter Biden's conviction fit into your pretend illuminati world?
bass4funk
Non of the rioters that rioted, looted in the major blue states were not Trump supporters
wallace
bass4funk
The Democrats did not organize any demonstrations during 2020. Your claim is make-believe.
Do you have any evidence that the Democrats and the Democrat Party organized the demonstrations?
*
"The BLM movement has remained overwhelmingly non-violent.
Approximately 94% of all pro-BLM demonstrations have been peaceful, with 6% involving reports of violence, clashes with police, vandalism, looting, or other destructive activity.
In the remaining 6%, it is not clear who instigated the violent or destructive activity. While some cases of violence or looting have been provoked by demonstrators, other events have escalated as a result of aggressive government action, intervention from right-wing groups or individual assailants, and car-ramming attacks.
In contrast, demonstrations involving right-wing militias or militant social movements have turned violent or destructive over twice as often, or nearly 14% of the time."
A Year of Racial Justice Protests: Key Trends in Demonstrations Supporting the BLM Movement
https://acleddata.com/2021/05/25/a-year-of-racial-justice-protests-key-trends-in-demonstrations-supporting-the-blm-movement/
Underworld
Wick's pencil
It's not Trump's DOJ. The DOJ work for the people and Trump can't use it to bully his enemies.
There is no such thing as "the deep state". That's more of a Q thing...
ClippetyClop
...equals they were all Trump supporters. You stand corrected.
lincolnman
And another of our now daily Trump mental meltdowns....they get worse each day...
"In a recent gaffe-filled, nonsensical speech, 78-year-old Donald Trump seemed to imply that 80-year-olds are incapable of signing important documents. Speaking in the battleground state of Wisconsin on Saturday, Trump suddenly poked fun at the elderly, during a rant about Georga District Attorney Fani Willis.
“Great patriots have been indicted by Fani and her boyfriend, and it’s a disgrace. You had people that are in their eighties, ‘Uh would you sign here?’” said Trump, with no real explanation of how the two thoughts connected.
It’s unclear which 80-year-olds he is ridiculing: whether that be his great “innocent” patriots or some cabal of elderly people in cahoots with Willis. What is clear, however, is that Trump’s offhand comment only throws himself under the bus. In case Trump has forgotten, he will turn 80 in 2026. And he is running to serve a four-year term as president, during which he would presumably be signing documents” quite often."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-78-accidentally-skewers-himself-203530889.html
The Moron disses the elderly - which includes himself...
Keep reminding everyone you're too mentally gone to sign your own documents Donald...
Idiot...
wallace
Voters should question Trump's mental state.
Underworld
bass4funk
It's not Trump's DOJ. The DOJ work for the people and Trump can't use it to bully his enemies.
None of this has anything to do with the White House. The DOJ is working independently.
Bob Fosse
Ok.
If you say so.
bass4funk
Non of the rioters that rioted, looted in the major blue states were not Trump supporters
Yes, Trump supporters were in the Capitol and Cali the protesters there as well as Chicago, Philly, Portland and Seattle those are not Trump supporters
And that movement is under scrutiny for not having done much of anything to help blacks, but they amassed a lot of money though
And what positive things are they doing for the community,
They know
https://youtu.be/eRC9Iuy4gPQ?si=7cEV7C6bbjuq2cr-
Peaceful??
https://youtu.be/NH8nhqQbd28?si=PGF5QGOOYsaUXz-9
Where? What damage exactly. The Capitol sprayed with graffiti? What’s the jail record of Trump supporters rioting and looting? Take your time Wallace.
https://nypost.com/2022/02/06/black-lives-matter-is-imploding-in-scandal-a-lesson-about-causes-deemed-beyond-question/
wallace
bass4funk
Hundreds, even thousands of rioters and looters were extreme right-wing Trump supporters.
A Year of Racial Justice Protests: Key Trends in Demonstrations Supporting the BLM Movement
https://acleddata.com/2021/05/25/a-year-of-racial-justice-protests-key-trends-in-demonstrations-supporting-the-blm-movement/
DaDude
The one that you(dem) encouraged and supported in the summer of 2020.
Let's go in chronological order and you provide the evidence that he stole the 2016 election.
Underworld
DaDude
And yet there is no evidence of "corrupt" election officials. This is just Trump preparing another attempt at stealing the election again.
He didn't. Trump won the 2016 presidential election.
bass4funk
Not in the blue states where all the businesses were destroyed and by the way, why was it that none of the msm lib networks interviewed these business owners (mostly people of color) and listened to their stories and pain? Now why is that? I wonder.
And now they’re under the investigation loop for a multitude of crimes, and again, what specifically has the group done to better the lives of Black people? Can you share that with us?
The Ripper!
If those election officials don't act corruptly then they don't have to worry about anything.
Although the rampant corruption in the Democratic Party is something to be concerned about.
Bob Fosse
Many J6 rioters received sentences over 10 years. 22 years is the longest.
890 participants have been found guilty of federal crimes connected to that day.
Underworld
The Ripper!
Yup.
No need to be concerned because it doesn't exist.
bass4funk
And when Trump gets back in office that will end
That as well, yes.
TaiwanIsNotChina
We have attorney generals for such things, not losers jumping up and down on streets or at Mar-a-Lardo.
DaDude
So you swear you never once in your life said it was a hoax....ever?
lincolnman
I guess all the dictator talk is just a cover-up for his latest business failure...
"The value of former president Donald Trump's Truth Social meme stock has cratered — in a drop that's wiped out a whopping $4 billion of Trump's personal 114.75 million share stake before he's even free to sell the dodgy stock.
Shares of Trump Media & Technology Group hit an all-time low last week, dropping below $18. That's a tiny fraction of what they were worth after the company merged with a blank check acquisition company in March, when they initially spiked to nearly $70 per share.
The company's recent slide was expedited by a number of executives selling off millions of dollars worth of shares, including CEO Devin Nunes, COO Andrew Northwall, and CFO and treasurer Phillip Juhan.
The company has yet to find a viable business plan and is bleeding money at an alarming rate, raking in a mere $4.1 million in revenue last year while losing a staggering $58 million over the same period.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-loses-4-billion-truth-204543962.html
So Trump has taken his social media stock price from $70 down to $18, and has only made $4.1 million in profits while having expenditures of $58 million....that's a net $53.9 million loss...
This incompetent idiot couldn't run a curbside lemonade stand...
Bob Fosse
Neither of those things will happen mr law and order.
bass4funk
Well, you won't be able to make that decision, but when he is President, he will, so just relax and take it in. But like you said, Mr. Law and order.
wallace
The question is not whether anyone will vote for Trump, but rather, whether enough people will vote for him to win the election. It was Trump's election to lose, but now the tide is turning in a different direction.
Garthgoyle
So... Is he going to start by sending himself to jail for the crimes he committed against democracy back in 2020-21?
GBR48
The Democrats are lucky to be going head to head with Trump. His amusing rants and threats keep young Democrats engaged with the party, when the Vietnam-style US-backed bloodshed in Gaza would normally have seen them leave it in droves.
Yrral
Bass4, Trump has no authority over the Justice department,not even Biden,if the President tell not prosecute a case,that call obstruction of Justice,a charge Trump is under
lincolnman
Wow, this is a major takedown - using his own handpicked, "best-ever" team member's words against him...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6oQXN2WNtU&t=59s
bass4funk
So far it looks like he will win the EC the way things are going.
Kamala had a bump, a honeymoon which is over and now it is losing steam.
Bob Fosse
If it happens I will stand corrected. But it won’t happen.
Will you stand corrected?
bass4funk
Which you won't be because you won't be President, ever.
Yes, without a doubt when he wins.
John
As I said, it makes one question the cognitive function and or sanity of anyone who thinks there was fraud.
It didn’t happen.
u_s__reamer
Only the Electoral College will enable Trump to plunge the country into further chaos. Most votes will go to Harris. The safety of the republic now lies in the hands of judges, Merchan, Chutkan, McAfee and the replacement for the incompetent and corrupt Cannon.
Bob Fosse
Huh?!
lincolnman
With all of Trump's unhinged rants and mental meltdowns over the past several months - each one more worse than the previous one, it's interesting that Nikki Haley is STILL taking such a prominent public role...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/nikki-haley-says-trump-vance-need-change-way-speak-women-rcna170225
She's doing interviews on all the Sunday political shows and major newspapers....almost LIKE A CANDIDATE...
It's quite the contrast - Trump self-imploding and her providing a calm, stabilizing self-portrait...
It's almost as if Repub senior leaders know their guy is going down in flames and have the backup all set and ready to go...
I don't compliment Repubs often but in this case I'll give them a kudo for smart planning...
The Ripper!
Good old Democratic denial.
You don't follow actual news it seems.
'A bad look': Shocking Menendez scandal casts a shadow over Democrats in 2024
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/menendez-bribery-charges-democrats-resign-2024-election-rcna117399
bass4funk
That's ok, you won't change our minds so....
Jonathan Prin
I would like fair elections in the USA like in any part of the world.
I can read and see what seems proofs that some inhabitants can vote without ID showing a potential voter is a US citizen. If so, of course vote results can be corrupted with the million immigrants flowing in the USA.
Any opinion on that concerning matter ?
Peter Neil
fear to democracy? what does that mean? you mean threat?
oh, the irony of trump and civil discourse in the same sentence.
you know what? i want to see trump called out on his lies tomorrow.
and harris saying something to the effect that people are tired of it and presidents of the untied states should have wisdom, be thoughtful, act in the best interest of the nation and last, but not least, not act and speak like a 12-year old spoiled brat.
nishikat
Trump can't change the minds of state court juries
lincolnman
I wonder if Rupert Murdoch has changed his mind on election fraud after he had to pay out $787 million when his network lied to YOU saying there was fraud...
Or if Rudy Giuliani changed his mind after losing a suit and having to pay $148 million for wrongly claiming the Georgia election workers were engaged in fraud...
Too bad some of the posters here can't be similarly sued for spreading clearly false and misleading election fraud fairy tales...
TaiwanIsNotChina
They'd have to have the name of a citizen they want to vote for and hope that person doesn't show up as well. And it would be a felony. Just not worth it for a single vote.