U.S. envoy taking Putin's comments on Ukraine ceasefire proposal to Trump, Kremlin official says

Putin will delay this indefinitely and the Trump administration is too stupid to realize it or doesn't care.

It is worth noting we are in day 54 of the Trump administration with no peace in Ukraine.

Putin has added some completely unacceptable demands and this goes nowhere.

Trump really doesn’t know what he is doing.

*Trump said “that there is a very good chance that this horrible, bloody war can finally come to an end.”*

First minor correction(s):

*Trump said “that there is a very good chance that his (Putain's) horrible, bloody genocide can finally come to an end.”*

Of course, once those Russian aggressors are defeated, once all of Ukraine, including Crimea and all other illegally occupied areas are liberated and reunited with Ukraine, of course once those war criminals in the Kremlin are sentenced, of course once Russia pays reparations to Ukraine, and so on.

Oh, and did you hear, Putain had Witkoff wait for 8 hours - the "boss-man" showing his "servants" the way it works, how a dictator deals with you!

After hammering out the Zelenskyy deal, the Trump people said the ball is now in PUtin's court, and it was a matter of PUtin saying yes or no. It looks at this point that he has rejected many parts of the US proposal., ie, "nyet." Now let's see if Trump piles tons of pressure on Putin.

Primus,

in case you can read and understand:

"As of 19 February 2025 UNESCO has verified damage to 485 sites (in Ukraine) since 24 February 2022 – 149 religious sites, 249 buildings of historical and/or artistic interest, 33 museums, 33 monuments, 18 libraries, 1 archive and 2 archaeological sites."

Won't even charge you for the time it took me to find this!

On the territory of Kursk region approx 5000 (4000 or 6000, no matter) Ukrainian military are in encirclement... to 6.00 msk time they should surrender. Foreign mercenaries ( americans, brits , polish and others) are not considered prisoners of war.

Ukrainians (EU and your Trump as well) are requesting (Ursula - demanding) a humanitarian corridor for the thousands of soldiers who have committed numerous crimes against civilians in the Kursk region. Putin said yesterday: either surrender, or...There is no third way out. Zel said that the Kursk plan has achieved its goal! All your questions are for Zel. 70,000 dead are sanitary losses, so don't worry...

ok1517, in your quote there is no words that it has done by Russians. But there is a lot of information on the Internet about how Ukrainians demolished their monuments, buildings, and churches in terms of decommunization. Ukrainians have destroyed their entire history. They left only the monuments to Bandera untouched. Don't try to search, I don't read Wikipedia anyway.

Primus,

playing Putain's mouthpiece?

How about this one?

"Independent analysts have challenged those claims, and Ukraine’s military on Friday rejected them."

I think the both of us are not in any position to predict or state anything concerning the Kursk area at this time.

Ukrainian sources have confirmed the explosion of a cafe in Krivoy Rog. Photos are already present on the net. Foreign soldiers gathered in the cafe. Three dozen were killed.... Guys, stay at home, don't go on Russian safari in Ukraine.

Putin will delay this indefinitely and the Trump administration is too stupid to realize it or doesn't care.

No, they know, but I’m sure Russia will in some form capitulate, if he doesn’t, the administration can heavily sanction his oil imports and in his already weakened economy that would be very disastrous to that nation. So let’s wait and see if Vlad will do the right thing.

Well this may be a bit overstated....

It's more like Putin pushes a button, and Trump's mouth moves - and out comes Putin's words...

Trump is PPP - Putin's Poodle and Puppet...

Ukraine’s military on Friday rejected them."

Really rejected???

For what purpose then did Trump ask Putin to have mercy on them? And why are Ursula and Macaroni bothering and demanding? Are you sure the Internet is working chez toi?

Typo in headline: for "comments", read "orders".

Trump is a weak man trying hard to look strong. A small thinker acting like he’s a genius. Someone with no morals but loves to preach about them to others. He starts fights then quickly retreats and plays the victim.  In sum, he’s just a scared, ignorant coward and degenerate.   

And there is no doubt he is Putin's Lapdog...

“there is a very good chance that this horrible, bloody war can finally come to an end.”

That’s very different from what he said dozens of times as a campaign issue.

But of course he didn’t mean it. So why should he mean it now? When do you know if he is being serious or not? maga is a form of mental illness at this point.

I estimate a 75-85% likelihood that Trump is a Putin-compromised asset, leaning toward the higher end (around 85%) due to the cumulative weight of historical patterns, financial incentives, and his unwavering refusal to challenge Putin.

And there is no doubt he is Putin's Lapdog...

As usual, the only solution the left has is to call the guy names and then they wonder why they lost everything…lib logic at its finest.

But of course he didn’t mean it. So why should he mean it now? When do you know if he is being serious or not? maga is a form of mental illness at this point.

The only thing that matters is that this war ends, Putin is on a tight leash, Zelenskyy gets to keep his country and rebuild what is left and the U.S. can finally get a payback on what we invested as well as assurances they will be protected. Slowly but surely coming together.

“Trump has the understanding of a fifth or sixth grader.”

Gen. Jim Mattis,

Trump’s first Secretary of Defense

I estimate a 75-85% likelihood that Trump is a Putin-compromised asset, leaning toward the higher end (around 85%) due to the cumulative weight of historical patterns, financial incentives, and his unwavering refusal to challenge Putin.

It's the last one that's the kicker. He'll go off on any and all world leaders, but will never say a single word against his master.

I estimate a 75-85% likelihood that Trump is a Putin-compromised asset, leaning toward the higher end (around 85%) due to the cumulative weight of historical patterns, financial incentives, and his unwavering refusal to challenge Putin.

You estimate or you factually and verifiably know beyond a shadow of a doubt Trump is compromised not concerned with what you feel, just is he or is he not and prove it please.

You estimate or you factually and verifiably know beyond a shadow of a doubt Trump is compromised not concerned with what you feel, just is he or is he not and prove it please.

Oh sorry Bass. I should have been clearer. My post was a direct quote from Musk’s AI Grok. Grok analysed all publicly available data since 1980 to come to the conclusion.

Grok also concluded that Democrats are better for the economy that Republicans.

You’ll have to trash AI now, take it up with Elon. He claims its accurate.

I estimate a 75-85% likelihood that Trump is a Putin-compromised asset, leaning toward the higher end (around 85%) due to the cumulative weight of historical patterns, financial incentives, and his unwavering refusal to challenge Putin.

You estimate or you factually and verifiably know beyond a shadow of a doubt Trump is compromised not concerned with what you feel, just is he or is he not and prove it please.

Bob used the word “estimate,” which in English means”estimate,” so I’m sure he means “estimate.” Bob, correct me if I’m wrong.

Putin is on a tight leash, Zelenskyy gets to keep his country and rebuild what is left and the U.S. can finally get a payback on what we invested as well as assurances they will be protected. Slowly but surely coming together

I told you that conclusions depend on the skills to interpret. I must say that the level of interpretation is very high.

It's abundantly clear what the American people think about Trump's bumbling and stumbling foreign policy...

CNN’s latest poll finds that 59% of Americans think it’s not too likely or not at all likely that Trump’s approach will bring long-term peace between Russia and Ukraine, while 41% say it’s at least somewhat likely. More broadly, nearly 6 in 10 Americans disapprove of Trump’s handling of the US relationship with Russia (59%), and 55% disapprove of his handling of the situation in Ukraine.

Half of Americans think that Trump’s approach to the war between Russia and Ukraine is bad for the US, compared to only 29% who think it’s good for the US (20% say it does not make a difference). This mirrors Americans’ broader views of Trump’s foreign policy moves so far in his second term: while 30% say his decisions have helped America’s standing in the world, more than half (54%) say that they’ve hurt America’s standing.

Notice the trend here? In every case, a MAJORITY of Americans believe Trump is failing and damaging our reputation around the world...

Which is what you'd expect, if he was Putin's Puppet...

Oh sorry Bass. I should have been clearer. My post was a direct quote from Musk’s AI Grok. Grok analysed all publicly available data since 1980 to come to the conclusion. 

Back in time…

Grok also concluded that Democrats are better for the economy that Republicans. You’ll have to trash AI now, take it up with Elon. He claims its accurate.

I doubt he thinks that now.

Bob used the word “estimate,” which in English means”estimate,” 

Estimate: to judge tentatively approximately the value, worth, or significance of..

about, around, like, more or less, much,near, plus or minus, roughly, say, some

so essentially: guessing

I doubt he thinks that now.

Well he tweeted it yesterday.

In MAGA-world, this is how you appease a criminal that invades and occupies your house...

false and repetitive premise.

he hasn’t invaded MY house, but yours. And we aren’t even close to being in the sane neighborhood.

so my responsibility is quite very different in the situation that your home is invaded.

And ANOTHER poll showing clearly a MAJORITY of Americans think Trump is Putin's Lapdog...

"A majority of Americans think President Trump is too closely aligned with Russia, including more than a quarter of Republicans, a poll released Thursday found.

The Reuters/Ipsos survey found 56 percent of respondents agreed with the statement that the president is too close to Moscow, which included 27 percent of Republicans and 89 percent of Democrats."

Primus,

Are you sure the Internet is working chez toi

Nope, the Internet is not working "pour moi", to use your wordings.

But spreading fake stuff, humiliating, insulting, and representing the side of the aggressor doesn't work!

By the way, who is Putain to set conditions for a cease fire?

He is the aggressor, the invader! The only conditions that should be set have to come from President Zelenskyy.

Has Trump claimed Putin has a 4% approval rate yet?

Should be getting something like that soon.

I don’t know if calling Putin a dictator will be regarded as an insult.

Correct again.

Thousands are surrounded in three separate pockets from the Kursk adventure. There is no way out.

Russian armed forces --- We’re not just going to let you walk out of here.

Wow, talk about a bad week...

Trump's surrender plan for Ukraine gets a cool response even from it's author - Putin...

Trump's tariffs cause the US stock market to tank wiping out $5 TRILLION in wealth in three weeks...

For the first time, polls show a MAJORITY of Americans think his policies are bad for the economy...

His best bud and shadow President Musk says the Holocaust was fake...and Hitler didn't murder millions...

JD Vance gets heckled and booed wherever he shows up...

He loses four major court cases in one week...

If that's MAGA "winning", please keep it up...

They should take advantage of this graceful opportunity and surrender.

Not necessary to die surrounded.

JJE

Correct again.

Thousands are surrounded in three separate pockets from the Kursk adventure. There is no way out.

Russian armed forces --- We’re not just going to let you walk out of here.

Yeah, right.

https://t.me/GeneralStaffZSU/21994

Now the 'tightening' of sanctions, meaning oil:

Cutting the EU off from Russian oil will hurt the EU far more than Russia - not only will oil profits rise, but the EU itself will be hurt economically, suffer more inflation and be in an even worse position.

Washington understands this and is precisely the purpose. Only a few decent EU countries have actively realized and voiced dissent towards peace. They will still receive it via Turkey.

Putin made Trump's Special Presidential Envoy Steve Witkoff wait 8 hours.

Putin did not make him 'wait' 8 hours. The day before yesterday he worked - meaning meetings, including with heads of state etc - until 1:30AM before going home.

Plus, he flew in on his jet via Baku and had multiple appointments. Called building bridges. His assistant is quite the sort. Decent escort for the black German automobile they rode in to beat the traffic on a rainy day too.

https://news.sky.com/story/trumps-fixer-was-made-to-wait-eight-hours-to-meet-putin-it-felt-like-a-classic-power-play-13328525

And still it won't matter in the end because they do need to talk and Russia will be pushed into doing a deal or he will get hit with harder and crippling sanctions that would seriously damage his country. Give it time.

Hats off to the article for providing an interesting montage of photos: one can see evidence of the fighting that took engulfed the Sudzhansky District of Kursk. Photo 2 is a smoked artillery position, unprimed 155 shells of various origin scattered about. 10 has the investigator being kindly assisted by the hospitable local lady (civilian target). First one has the tank looking a bit out of commission, ERA blocks hung ornamentally.

It’s quite disgusting and bloodthirsty to expect people who are totally surrounded to die this week for a war that will be over next week.

In photo 2, one can see the fuses lying in the foreground amongst the boxes. End caps are still in place. Powder charges stored separately.