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U.S. has enough COVID-19 vaccines for boosters, kids' shots

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By TODD RICHMOND and KATHLEEN FOODY

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So, NO, as I mentioned EVERY single submission should be considered and resolved. Liberals messing with the system by putting "no side effects" or "x-rays"

You said that "x-rays" were a valid form of side effect, mostly because you don't know what side effects are. Now all of a sudden the things you said are legitimate side effects are the result of the evil liberals that lurk everywhere?

It's amazing how often the "do your own research" crowd post links to things they haven't read, then get indignant when it turns out their source disproves their assertion when you actually read it.

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As you mentioned, anyone can report anything. So of course some liberals would want to report "nothing" in order to push their side of the narrative.

I see. That's quite the claim. I'm sure that, correspondingly, you have quite the evidence to support it.

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If this isnt a sufficient way to capture side effects from people who get the vaccine, what is a better way and why isnt the government implementing it?

(hint: because they need a system that can be discredited by liberals so that they dont have to receive legitimate concerns and investigate them. they obviously dont want to hear about any side effects or deal with them. because there are supposedly "no side effects" to hear about.)

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But liberals here just want to try to discredit a Biden administration, government website instead.

It’s sad that you have only this.

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Anyway, I’m glad you came round to agreeing that it is not a credible source of data.

Its perfectly fine as a credible source of data. Each report should be investigated and a scientific conclusion reached. According to the other poster this is how the heart arrhythmia issues caused by the vaccine were found. so its perfectly credible, people reported heart issues and it was confirmed.

But liberals here just want to try to discredit a Biden administration, government website instead.

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Or maybe you genuinely believe that "no side effects", which was reported to VAERS multiple times, is a side effect.

As you mentioned, anyone can report anything. So of course some liberals would want to report "nothing" in order to push their side of the narrative.

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what CAUSES a person to get an xray is the side effect. like a sharp pain in your stomach after getting vaccinated.

you know this is what that entry means.

No, it isn't, actually. Because reports of "abdominal pain" are also included in the data. You don't understand what VAERS is, or what side effects are.

Or maybe you genuinely believe that "no side effects", which was reported to VAERS multiple times, is a side effect.

If you do, I think it might be a side effect of something. Vaccine derangement syndrome, perhaps?

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Exactly, for the young and healthy, the risks from the vaccine outweigh the risks from the virus.

You keep repeating this false information, but when asked to prove it you never bring any information, someone that actually wanted to be honest would understand at that point that your belief is false.

Are you saying that the many healthcare workers who are refusing the vaccines are semi-literate?

That is well known even before COVID, a third of the prescriptions of antibiotics on the USA are for things where antibiotics serve absolutely no purpose. A tiny minority of the people working in a field are deeply unprepared to the job they are supposed to be doing, healthcare is not different.

Why doesn't the US have a better system to document vaccine adverse effects? Its almost as if they don't want any record of the adverse effects...

On the contrary, the "flaw" of VAERS is that it registers absolutely everything that is reported first, to be corroborated and compared only later in order to be useful, so the problem is actually recording too much, so the risk of not recording something is minimized. It is not a perfect system (since it is easily misrepresented by antivaxxers to present anything recorded as if it was correlated with vaccines) but nobody has suggested something better.

none of this changes the fact that there has been close to no deaths of children from COVID.

How many kids do you think have died this year of hepatic or cervical cancer? because children are also being vaccinated to protect them of these diseases without any problem.

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"As of September 16, over 5.5 million children have tested positive for COVID-19 since the onset of the pandemic. Nearly 226,000 cases were added the past week, the third highest number of child cases in a week since the pandemic began. After declining in early summer, child cases have increased exponentially, with over 925,000 cases in the past 4 weeks."

https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

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Exactly, for the young and healthy, the risks from the vaccine outweigh the risks from the virus.

No.

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Strange that when it was politically advantageous to have everything be COVID, it was.

Murders, car accidents, suicides, falls in the home, severely obese people, old people die? COVID deaths!

now that is isnt advantageous, any negative side effect after vaccination? not COVID related all.

stomach pain right after vaccination? nothing to see here, they must have eaten some bad sushi.

then if it is actually is somehow found to be linked to vaccine somehow, its "rare", still nothing to see here.

at least 1500 deaths from vaccine? nah, thats not many, nothing to worry about.

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word play,

what CAUSES a person to get an xray is the side effect. like a sharp pain in your stomach after getting vaccinated.

you know this is what that entry means.

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certainly, if you feel something wrong in your stomach right after getting the vaccine.

You think that getting an x-ray is a side effect? Do you know what side effects are? If you get the vaccine and then the sun sets right after, that's not a side effect of the vaccine.

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Exactly, for the young and healthy, the risks from the vaccine outweigh the risks from the virus.

Um, no. No they do not. The risk of young and healthy people getting infected and ending up hospitalized is several orders of magnitude larger than the infinitesimal risks of vaccination.

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VAERS database, and that's just the USA only.

The VAERS database is a self-reporting database that refers to ANY side effect that is at the point of reporting, unverified. It could be something as small as a minor rash to an unrelated fever.

AFTER reporting, the FDA investigates to see if there is any relevance of any kind related to vaccination and takes action accordingly. It's how the FDA originally warned of a rare heart arrhythmia in young men and action was taken.

To conflate a self-reporting system with verified, known side effects is either an effort to willfully distort the truth or the result of a stunning level of ignorance towards basic science.

To be fair, it could be both. I'm am going with both.

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Do you think that getting the vaccine means you spontaneously get a stomach x-ray?

certainly, if you feel something wrong in your stomach right after getting the vaccine.

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Looking through the VAERS data, some side effects listed include "abdominal x-ray", "sars-cov-2 test", and "no adverse event".

Do you think that getting the vaccine means you spontaneously get a stomach x-ray?

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Why doesn't the US have a better system to document vaccine adverse effects? Its almost as if they don't want any record of the adverse effects...

Oh for Pete’s sake. Make your minds up.

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VAERS is not a great system, it has serious problems, but it is the best the US has.

Why doesn't the US have a better system to document vaccine adverse effects? Its almost as if they don't want any record of the adverse effects...

BTW, similar systems in other countries show similar results; the deaths and other adverse effects from these vaccines are off the charts.

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It's the official federal database.

Do you have a more reliable source for the United States.

READ the disclaimer on the site.

”As an early warning system, VAERS cannot prove that a vaccine caused a problem. Specifically, a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event.”

Anyone can submit a report to VAERS — healthcare professionals, vaccine manufacturers, and the general public. VAERS welcomes all reports, regardless of seriousness, and regardless of how likely the vaccine may have been to have caused the adverse event.

The same exact case can be reported by the recipient of the vaccine, the Doctor who gave the shot, the nurse in the room, the recipient’s second cousin, anybody.

That is the ‘official federal’ information.

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Why is there a need for a vaccine with dangerous side effects for teenagers who have almost zero chance of serious illness from the virus?

Exactly, for the young and healthy, the risks from the vaccine outweigh the risks from the virus.

I believe only one healthy kid in the US has so far died from Covid, all others had other serious health issues.

This is a pandemic of a semi-literate cult.

Are you saying that the many healthcare workers who are refusing the vaccines are semi-literate?

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https://vaers.hhs.gov/

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And there are ZERO documented wide-spread negative side effects. 

Zero?

He didn’t say zero, he said widespread. Unlike the virus which is certainly widespread. Get the shot.

VAERS database not a reliable source of COVID side effect data in the same way that Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information and should not be presented as such. Billions have taken the vaccine, of course there will be isolated side effects. Get the shot.

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There are thousands of young children with covid with many in ICU's and many develop long covid.

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Why is there a need for a vaccine with dangerous side effects for teenagers who have almost zero chance of serious illness from the virus?

Because 25% of cases currently hospitalized are children, Einstein.

Children are ending up on vents. Southern States have few if any beds in the Peds ICU facilities.

And there are ZERO documented wide-spread negative side effects. Your chances of suffering a negative event as a result of taking a Covid vaccine are less than being struck by lightning.... Multiple times....

Please try to keep current on the basic, knowable, objective facts before posting.

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Why is there a need for a vaccine with dangerous side effects for teenagers who have almost zero chance of serious illness from the virus?

A surprising question. This has been discussed and answered repeatedly over the past few weeks.

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Why is there a need for a vaccine with dangerous side effects for teenagers who have almost zero chance of serious illness from the virus?

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Now all we need is for the moronic anti-vaxxer’s and “Freedumb!” idiots to take it and to let their kids be well-protected against illness and death as well.

This is a pandemic of a semi-literate cult.

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