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Epstein, a well-connected financier whose friends have included President Donald Trump and former president Bill Clinton,

As F. Scott Fitzgerald is reported to have said, 'The rich are different from you and me'.

And as Hemingway is reported to have replied 'Yes, They have money.'

And perhaps more importantly the rich, especially the .01%, have friends in high level places that allow them to be protected from the scummy things they do.

No offense to Warren Buffet and the others seeming to live their lives with integrity.

May justice prevail.

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"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." 

-- Donald Trump

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

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But he avoided federal prosecution in those cases with a 2007 plea deal negotiated by his lawyers with Alexander Acosta

This could have been stopped a long time ago.

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A lot of prominent Democrats are suddenly very nervous.

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I imagine a lot of prominent men of various stripes are suddenly very nervous. Hallelujah! May justice prevail, indeed!

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Under the deal, he pleaded guilty to a state charge of soliciting prostitution from a minor and served 13 months in a county jail.

There are no underage "prostitutes". There are underage victims of rape and statutory rape.

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Someone in the Trump Administration was responsible for a pedophile going free, why does that not surprise anyone!!

Expect the usual denials and 'I didn't know him at all..... despite evidence to the contrary.

They backed Roy Moore till he lost......

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Someone in the Trump Administration was responsible for a pedophile going free, why does that not surprise anyone!!

Did you feel the same about Anthony Wiener? That was equally as bad the way it was handled.

They backed Roy Moore till he lost......

No, not after his incendiary comments and he did.

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A close sex fiend of Trump

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Just lock him in deep hole let him spend the rest of his natural life there....even better put him in maximum security with the general population..

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Too late, but before all the Trumpites get swept away by their hatred, it would be good for you to know:

Trump, meanwhile, was reportedly the "only one" to help a prosecuting attorney representing one of Epstein's alleged victims. The President is also said to have booted Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago club after he was found trying to recruit underage girls. 

Others on Epstein’s list

Ralph Fiennes

Alec Baldwin

David Blaine

Jimmy Buffett 

Courtney Love

Charlie Rose

Mike Wallace 

Barbara Walters

Ehud Barak

Tony Blair

David Koch 

John Gutfreund

Prince Andrew

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Bill Clinton is now on record as saying he "knows nothing" about the "terrible crimes" linked to Epstein. The same Bill Clinton who head faked his secret service detail so he could take flights on Epstein's "Lolita Express" (according to flight manifests) at least two dozen times.

Slick Willy has got a whole lotta 'splainin' to do.

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Did you feel the same about Anthony Wiener? 

Yes, my opinion of pedophiles is not colored by political affiliation.

No, not after his incendiary comments

Whatever that means!!

Trump defended Moore, saying, "He totally denies it ... He says it didn't happen. You have to listen to him also".

The ever so truthful Sarah Sanders "The president wants people in the House and Senate who support his agenda.

Kellyanne Conway "I'm telling you we want the votes in the Senate to get this tax bill through."

And then Moore lost.....

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Bill Clinton is now on record as saying he "knows nothing" about the "terrible crimes" linked to Epstein. 

Sorry to break it to you, Bill Clinton is no longer the President.

However if he is found to be involved in exploiting underaged girls he should go to prison.

But Trump said

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." 

Disgusting, don't you think?

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They backed Roy Moore till he lost......

No, not after his incendiary comments and he did.

You also supported Roy Moore, even on the day of the election.

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It's interesting that people are trying to turn this into a partisan issue.

You would think that sex trafficking minors, or rather, being opposed to it, would be a non-partisan issue. Shouldn't we all hate these people?

You people who have turned this into a partisan issue are beyond the pale.

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Trump defended Moore, saying, "He totally denies it ... He says it didn't happen. You have to listen to him also".

The ever so truthful Sarah Sanders "The president wants people in the House and Senate who support his agenda.

Kellyanne Conway "I'm telling you we want the votes in the Senate to get this tax bill through."

And then Moore lost....

From 1989 up until 2003, Epstein donated more than $139,000 to Democratic federal candidates and committees and over $18,000 to Republican candidates and groups, according to data from OpenSecrets. Notable recipients include former President Bill Clinton and former Senator Bob Packwood, a Republican. In 2003, a couple of years before a full-scale investigation into the allegations of sexual exploitation of underage girls, his political giving abruptly stopped. From 1999 to 2003, Epstein donated $77,000 to Democrats John Kerry, Richard Gephardt, Chris Dodd, and other high-profile politicians and committees. Dodd received a $1,000 contribution from Epstein during his reelection campaign in 2003, however, the contribution was returned in 2006.After a hiatus in political giving during the investigations into his sexual abuse, Epstein gave to independent Connecticut House candidate Gwendolyn Beck in 2014 and U.S. Virgin Islands Democratic Delegate Stacey Plaskett both in 2016 and the most recent midterms (Epstein owns a private island in the Virgin Islands called Little Saint James).Most recently, Epstein contributed $10,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in October 2018. It was swiftly returned by the committee four days later.

So even though the money was returned, it’s an irrefutable fact that Epstein gave heavily to Democrats and they were all in the same bed, so by your standards, all of these people are guilty then, guilty by association. Politics can be a very dirty business.

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Sorry to break it to you, Bill Clinton is no longer the President.

That doesn’t break friendship ties between the two just because he’s not president anymore. Lol

However if he is found to be involved in exploiting underaged girls he should go to prison.

But Trump said

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." 

Melania is younger, a lot younger, so how’s that bad?

So let me get this straight, the president should go to prison based on something that he said years ago and had no way of knowing what this man was doing? If you brought the allegation to quart room you’d get a laughed right out of court

Disgusting, don't you think?

That depends.

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ulyssesToday  09:57 am JST

But Trump said

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." 

Disgusting, don't you think?

Sorry to break it to you, but Mr. Trump was not a government official when he said that.

Get back to us when you find Mr. Trump's name on just one "Lolita Express" flight manifest.

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Sorry to break it to you, but Mr. Trump was not a government official when he said that.

So it wouldn't be appropriate if he said it now, but it's ok that he said it before he was president.

Hmm....

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The logic there seems to be that it's ok to think these things, it's just not ok to say them if you are president.

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Jeff is a well known Dem supporter.  DT did indeed call him out.

The rich live a different life to us.

US justice is a very selective affair.

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Jeff is a well known Dem supporter. DT did indeed call him out.

The rich live a different life to us.

US justice is a very selective affair.

Pretty much.

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That doesn’t break friendship ties between the two just because he’s not president anymore. Lol

If Bill is found to be associated with expiration of underaged girls then he should go to prison. Interesting to see that you find such crimes funny.

Melania is younger, a lot younger, so how’s that bad?

A justification for pedophilia by providing context. Wow, just wow!!!

That depends.

Sure, there are some who find such crimes normal!!

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Sorry to break it to you, but Mr. Trump was not a government official when he said that.

Sure, its fine to hang out with pedophiles if you are not President.

Get back to us when you find Mr. Trump's name on just one "Lolita Express" flight manifest.

Trump had his own plane, hopefully we'll get to know what all happened there.

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He served a 13 month sentence, but he was allowed to leave the jail six days a week, during the daytime, without supervision. He only had to sleep there at night. 

Acosta should lose his law license.

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Well, another customer of Donnie's book; "The Art of the Sexual Assault, or How to be a Pervert in 3 Easy Steps. Foreword by Roy Moore."

And now Bill Barr, the Attorney General, has recused himself because he used to work for a law firm Epstein used to get his previous charges reduced.

*Barr was right that Kirkland & Ellis was involved in the case. The firm’s senior partner, Jay Lefkowitz, was among high-profile lawyers like Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr who represented Epstein. The so-called all star cast of lawyers, with the apparent blessing of former federal prosecutor Alexander Acosta (President Donald Trump‘s current Labor Secretary), secured a plea agreement for Epstein that got federal sex trafficking charges taken off the table, and then some.*

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/william-barr-reveals-has-recused-himself-from-jeffrey-esptein-case-heres-the-reason-he-gave/

This sounds a lot like "18 angry Repub lawyers" helping a child molester beat his charges"....

The Trump and Repub cesspool on full display....

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Jeffrey Epstein signed a non-prosecution agreement in his previous case, which was overseen by President Trump's current Secretary of Labor, Alex Acosta.

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If Bill is found to be associated with expiration of underaged girls then he should go to prison. Interesting to see that you find such crimes funny.

He should gone to prison for other things, so I don’t think even if her were found to have been with any of these young girls it would matter to be honest.

A justification for pedophilia by providing context. Wow, just wow!!!

Not at all.

Sure, there are some who find such crimes normal!!

Melania was not underage.

Trump had his own plane, hopefully we'll get to know what all happened there.

Trying to go fishing again? Trying to catch guppies? Lol

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Jeff is a well known Dem supporter.  

The right wing solution to all problems, label them as Democrat.

When Acosta gave Epstein his sweet deal in 2008, he was a rising republican star.

His lawyers included Alan Dershowitz and Kenneth Starr.

Yes that Kenneth Starr!

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Not at all.

A justification for pedophilia this week and another one for killing people because 'thy are different' last week.

Thats some strong conservative values right there.

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"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." 

Trump calls everybody a "terrific guy", if you haven't noticed. Especially people who are not terrific guys, like North Korean dictators. It's a subtle way of referring to people he doesn't trust, not unique to Trump. I see it often in business.

As noted above, Trump was just about the only one of all these high society people to offer assistance to the lawyers pursuing this case the first time around. He was pretty clearly not happy with Epstein and Clinton morals. Read up on it. Normally, pedophiles don't make comments like "they are on the younger side." Just the opposite.

Lastly, Epstein escaped scot-free without revealing anything about all his co-pedophiles thanks to the one and only Robert Mueller. Remember him? The guy who tried so desperately to put Trump behind bars for anything he could find. Yet, he cut an easy deal with biggest underage sex trafficker in recent history. Almost certainly, Mueller is part of this who scandal.

In fact, I find it very likely that Epstein's arrest might be the result of Trump pushing for it behind the scenes. So people who are hoping he will implicate Trump are going to be in for a nasty surprise.

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Trump and the Trumpers defending yet another pedophile. Surprise surprise.

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You people who have turned this into a partisan issue are beyond the pale.

It's a partisan issue because he would already be in prison, and his co-conspirators would be now as well, if not for the intervention of the Clintons and their gang. If it were in Trump's lap, you would be singing a different tune, I think.

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"Jeffrey Epstein signed a non-prosecution agreement in his previous case, which was overseen by President Trump's current Secretary of Labor, Alex Acosta."

That would explain why our right-wingers are trying so hard to paint this as a left-wing problem.

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Trump calls everybody a "terrific guy", if you haven't noticed. Especially people who are not terrific guys, like North Korean dictators. It's a subtle way of referring to people he doesn't trust, not unique to Trump. I see it often in business.

So we should take Trump's words to mean what we think he should have said, rather than what he said.

Interesting. Isn't that what the right is complaining about the left?

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It's a partisan issue because he would already be in prison, and his co-conspirators would be now as well, if not for the intervention of the Clintons and their gang. If it were in Trump's lap, you would be singing a different tune, I think.

I would? I'd be saying that we should ignore underage sex trafficking?

Um... weird. I'm pretty sure I'd be against that no matter the perpetrator, or more specifically, their party affiliation. I'd say I've been pretty consistent on that at all times.

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The right wing solution to all problems, label them as Democrat.

Difficult to disprove, Clinton has been the closest to Epstein for years and years.

When Acosta gave Epstein his sweet deal in 2008, he was a rising republican star.

True, True and what about the other liberals that worshipped Epstein, don’t forget those people as well

His lawyers included Alan Dershowitz and Kenneth Starr.

Yes that Kenneth Starr!

Ok and?

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This is the kind of thing that makes it so easy for, let's say, the Russians to meddle in American elections and the American political process on the whole. There is a tendency (more like a pathology) in America now, where the zealots on both sides to take a story like this and twist it ( sometimes in the most convoluted manner) into some kind of "evidence" or even "proof" that their political opponents are despicable, hateful people.

Right now, the Left is honing in on what they want to believe. That being, Trump was behind it all and should be prosecuted for child prostitution. While the Right chants "Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton"

Jeff Epstein is a pedophile. He used his wealth and powerful connections to facilitate his pedophilic inclinations. He preyed on the naivety and lack of life experience of his victims to satisfy his sexual deviance. He is a despicable individual and deserves every bad thing that comes his way. He's the bad guy, He's the story. Not Bill Clinton and the Dems or Donald Trump and the GOP.

The victims have a story to tell and, who knows, maybe there is a powerful testament and lessons to be learned from those stories. But what do we see? "Bill Clinton rode the Lolita Express two dozen times" or "Trump said he was a great guy" By politicizing this story for points against the other side, downplays the vileness of Epstein and the experiences of the victims.

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That being, Trump was behind it all and should be prosecuted for child prostitution. 

Really? Must have missed that scrolling past the Trump fanatics shrieking about Bill Clinton.

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Clinton has been the closest to Epstein for years and years.

And Donny gave a commendation on what a fine guy Epstein was and how he shared Trump's taste in young women. You might have forgotten that Trump used to walk into the dressing room at the Miss Universe contests where a lot of the girls were really really young.

what about the other liberals that worshipped Epstein

But the republican prosecutors were the one who went easy on him, knowing fully what crimes he had committed.

Ok and?

Ignorance definitely is bliss for some.

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Berman also told reporters he would have no comment on "speculation" about any individuals other than Epstein whose names have been raised previously in the case.

Hold every single person accountable, no matter who they are.

Justice must come down on them like a ton of bricks.

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This is the kind of thing that makes it so easy for, let's say, the Russians to meddle in American elections and the American political process on the whole. There is a tendency (more like a pathology) in America now, where the zealots on both sides to take a story like this and twist it ( sometimes in the most convoluted manner) into some kind of "evidence" or even "proof" that their political opponents are despicable, hateful people.

Right now, the Left is honing in on what they want to believe. That being, Trump was behind it all and should be prosecuted for child prostitution. While the Right chants "Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton"

Jeff Epstein is a pedophile. He used his wealth and powerful connections to facilitate his pedophilic inclinations. He preyed on the naivety and lack of life experience of his victims to satisfy his sexual deviance. He is a despicable individual and deserves every bad thing that comes his way. He's the bad guy, He's the story. Not Bill Clinton and the Dems or Donald Trump and the GOP.

The victims have a story to tell and, who knows, maybe there is a powerful testament and lessons to be learned from those stories. But what do we see? "Bill Clinton rode the Lolita Express two dozen times" or "Trump said he was a great guy" By politicizing this story for points against the other side, downplays the vileness of Epstein and the experiences of the victims.

Well, I'd tend to agree with you, but have to respectfully disagree on a couple specific points;

I don't see any non-Trumper here saying that Trump was "behind it all and should be prosecuted for child prostitution." There is clearly no evidence of that; though let me add the Trumpers favorite conspiracy theory caveat - "yet"...

No, this is an issue of character, or lack of it. We have these facts;

Trump has told New York magazine in 2002 that Mr. Epstein was a “terrific guy” whom he had known for 15 years. “He’s a lot of fun to be with,” the president said at the time. “It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

Trump has hosted Epstein multiple times at Mar-A-Lago and Epstein's estate is less than one mile from Mar-A-Lago.

Trump Attorney General Barr has had to recuse himself because he was a member of a law firm that defended Epstein in his first molestation trial.

Trump Labor Secretary Acosta was the Federal Prosecutor during this trial and agreed to a much reduced sentence and plea bargain for these molestation charges.

Trump supporters Allan Dershowitz and Ken Starr also helped defend Epstein.

So you have multiple people within Trump's orbit, to include himself, that know, have assisted, and socialized with Epstein. So we get back to the old Stormy Daniels analogy - what kind of a person cavorts with porn stars and Playboy Bunnies? What kind of person pals around with and defends a child molester? It speaks to their character. Or as I said before, complete lack of it...

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Trumps own words are that "perverts" (ie. pedophiles and the like) should be fast-tracked through the courts and given the death sentence. Let's see if he follows through when it's an old pal and fellow Republican.

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Melania Trump should have a say. Where's her voice?

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Epstein's 'procurer' of flesh was one Ghislane Maxwell, daughter of Mossad agent Robert Maxwell (real name Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoc).

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=191222

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Nancy Pelosi’s daughter has just warned Democrats that they have to get ready to see some of their favorite people fall over this case.

Btw, Bill Clinton flew on Epstein’s “Lolita Express” 26 times, several times inexplicably ditching his secret service detail and flying without them.

As for me, I hope all scumbags involved, regardless of political affiliation, go down hard over this.

Trump, btw, is not among them.

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As much as I despise Donny, it's beyond reasonable to blame him for everything his friends and Trumpophiles do.

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I don't see any non-Trumper here saying that Trump was "behind it all and should be prosecuted for child prostitution."

Well to be honest that was hyperbole on my part. Just like the line about the Right chanting. You're right no non-trumper has specifically said those words but in your response you spent six paragraphs attempting to connect Trump and members of the administration with Epstein. The only mention of Epstein was in relation to Trump. This story is about a rich and well connected perv that used his wealth a connections to live out his pedo fantasies. This story should also be about the young girls lured into his depravity.

@CrazyJoe previously posted that "Justice must come down on them like a ton of bricks." and I agree. Justice for Epstein's victims. But making the story all about Trump and trying to find any which way you can to tie this to him doesn't do much for the girls. In fact they seem to be being used as just props in the Orange Man Bad narrative.

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@Lincolnman,

a spin worthy of CNN.

Get back to me after the Epstein rat has spilled all the beans.

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As for me, I hope all scumbags involved, regardless of political affiliation, go down hard over this.

Trump, btw, is not among them.

Once again the Trumpets show they are willing to accept any behaviour by trump.

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@Strangerland,

Why would you say that?

Get back to me after Epstein has spilled all the info.

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Btw, Bill Clinton flew on Epstein’s “Lolita Express” 26 times, several times inexplicably ditching his secret service detail and flying without them.

A false comment without any evidence. Clinton stated he took four trips on Epstein's plane. One to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa. All in connection with is work for the Clinton Foundation.

What's more, Clinton's staff, supporters of the foundation and his Secret Service detail travelled with him on every leg of the trip.

Just another smear campaign against Clinton.

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Why would you say that?

You said it. You hope all the scum don’t go down, but trump isn’t part of that group.

If it’s found Trump is one of the scum, you exclude trump from being of the group you want to go down.

Maybe you just worded it poorly.

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I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." 

-- Donald Trump

That's it then! Trump is definitely guilty of having sex with minors! Well, that's what you're implying, Black Sabbath, with that post. Trump said that 17 years ago before Epstein was accused of anything and no one thought anything of it.

Russiagate, obstructiongate and Stormygate didn't work out, and guess what Black Sabbath, neither is Epsteingate.

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If its guilt by association then Epstein knew Trump, Clinton and Prince Andrew. Clinton and Trump had a relationship too.

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If its guilt by association then Epstein knew Trump, Clinton and Prince Andrew. Clinton and Trump had a relationship too.

And Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have had a relationship too! Oh my! Lock her up!

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@Zichi,

its not a false comment, and subsequent investigation will prove it.

@Strangerland,

no, not poorly worded. My words stand.

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A false comment without any evidence. Clinton stated he took four trips on Epstein's plane. One to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa. All in connection with is work for the Clinton Foundation.

What's more, Clinton's staff, supporters of the foundation and his Secret Service detail travelled with him on every leg of the trip.

Just another smear campaign against Clinton

Yes, I'd trust Clinton's word every time. Wait, didn't he also say something along the lines of "I smoked marujiana but I didn't inhale," and "I did not have sexual relations with that woman?"

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The liberals at DU have been in full-blown meltdown mode all night. Even they know the Clintons' gooses are cooked as pilot logs filed with the FAA (aka, government documents) show even Hillary and Huma flew on a few "Lolita Express" flights to Epstein's Pedo Island.

Breakout the popcorn, folks, things are about to get really interesting.

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What a laugh - watching the Trumpers here turn up the spin cycle to overload - Donnie's neighbor who he's hosted at Mar-A Lago and known for 15 years is a pedo. He "grabs em" by the ____, he just does it to underage ones.

And half Trump's administration worked as crooked lawyers getting him off his first charge.

Hey Mr Labor Secretary, explain that sweet plea deal that got Epstein out of a federal molestation charge when you were the Prosecutor...

Filth begats filth....

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@TexasA&amp,

Thats for sure!

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Epstein pleaded guilty back in 2007 to a reduced federal prostitution charge in Florida and had to register as a sex offender. As part of his plea agreement with the feds, his 13-month sentence included enabling him to get out of the Palm Beach County Stockade six days a week to work from his office -- unsupervised -- and return at night to his jail bunk.

So, who was the FBI Director at that time involved OK'ing Epstein’s deal? None other than Robert Mueller. Yes, that Robert Mueller.

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Texas: So, who was the FBI Director at that time involved OK'ing Epstein’s deal? None other than Robert Mueller. Yes, that Robert Mueller.

Why would the head of the FBI be "OK'ing" deals by DOJ lawyers in Florida?

This has been pushed out there by a guy named Charlie Kirk. It's already been debunked. Looks like Texas doesn't know that, just learned about the fake news, then came her to spread it. Not the sharpest (or fastest) tool in the shed.

Next up will be the Russia propaganda that the uneducated, male base of Trump will eat up and spit back out.

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stein pleaded guilty back in 2007 to a reduced federal prostitution charge in Florida and had to register as a sex offender. As part of his plea agreement with the feds, his 13-month sentence included enabling him to get out of the Palm Beach County Stockade six days a week to work from his office -- unsupervised -- and return at night to his jail bunk.

So, who was the FBI Director at that time involved OK'ing Epstein’s deal? None other than Robert Mueller. Yes, that Robert Mueller.

Wrong! The FBI Director has nothing to do with indicting and prosecuting a suspect - they just investigate and hand the evidence to the Prosecutor. What to charge, whether to indict, and whether to accept a deal all falls to the Dept of Justice and Federal District Attorney - that person is now Trump Labor Secretary Acosta.

And the Attorney General and Justice Dept head n 2007 was Repub and Bush Jr cabinet member Micheal McMukasey. Epstein's attorneys were Repubs Allen Dershowitz and Ken Starr - yes, that Ken Starr. Trump Attorney General Repub Bill Barr was a member of that same firm.

Repubs in cahoots protecting molesters.... Definitely the party of Roy Moore....

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@Superlib,

You got lots of surprises coming from theDem icons.

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Pedophilia is incurable. That's the reason these subhuman predators continue to defile and enslave young girls. Yet if you're wealthy and have the "right" connections, you can escape appropriate punishment. 

14 year old girls were forced to "service" old, white, bald, perverted rich guys. All who participated in these disgusting crimes and the coverup (Alex Acosta) must be held accountable. Regardless of political party affiliation or measure of wealth.

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The FBI was involved in investigating Epstein in the run up to the 2007 conviction. As such, they had to sign off on the disposition/plea agreement of the matter. Guess that kind of information is still on the slow boat to Japan.

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Trump had barred Epstein from his Mar-A-Lago estate “because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club.”

@lincolnman - That was not only a one-sided presentation of facts. Some weren't even facts. It's OK to be biased, but don't pretend you are being objective.

Trump has hosted Epstein multiple times at Mar-A-Lago and Epstein's estate is less than one mile from Mar-A-Lago.

Fact: Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago after he assaulted an underage girl there.

So you have multiple people within Trump's orbit, to include himself, that know, have assisted, and socialized with Epstein.

Epstein socialized with everybody who was anybody in New York and Washington high society. It would be odd if Trump didn't know him. Why do you single out Trump, when he was the only one in New York to try to help prosecute Epstein the first time around.

So we get back to the old Stormy Daniels analogy - what kind of a person cavorts with porn stars and Playboy Bunnies? 

Jealous? Just a bit? What does that have to do with anything? Except it's hard to believe anyone who likes little girls would go for big and busty Stormy Daniels. Keep fishing!

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The FBI was involved in investigating Epstein in the run up to the 2007 conviction. As such, they had to sign off on the disposition/plea agreement of the matter. Guess that kind of information is still on the slow boat to Japan.

Wrong! You better consult your pedo defending lawyers Dershowitz and Starr - they'll tell you all prosecutorial decisions are made by the Federal Attorney - the FBI has no authority with regards to judicial matters, just law enforcement. In fact, the Repub Prosecutor undercut the FBI's case..

Although Acosta insisted that he pursued a harsh plea deal with Epstein’s lawyers, the resulting sweetheart deal smothered the FBI’s investigation and forced Acosta to spend only 13 months in jail. Records cited by the Herald show that Acosta did not seek a harsh sentence—instead, he repeatedly caved to lawyers’ demands and even worked with Epstein’s legal team to limit the scope of the FBI’s investigation.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-labor-secretary-alexander-acosta-helped-contain-scandal-in-epstein-abuse-deal

The "go easy" decision was made by the Federal Prosecutor, now Labor Secretary Acosta...

Repubs protecting molesters...

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commanteerToday  09:29 pm JST

Trump had barred Epstein from his Mar-A-Lago estate “because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club.”

Trump used to walk into dressing rooms of Miss Universe , so seriously doubt he would have any moral outrage over Epstein.

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Trump had barred Epstein from his Mar-A-Lago estate “because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club.”

@lincolnman - That was not only a one-sided presentation of facts. Some weren't even facts. It's OK to be biased, but don't pretend you are being objective.

Trump has hosted Epstein multiple times at Mar-A-Lago and Epstein's estate is less than one mile from Mar-A-Lago.

Fact: Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago after he assaulted an underage girl there.

You mean alternative fact. The only one pushing that lie is the Federalist Papers - the alt-right conspiracy theory publisher and Trump cover-up machine. Epstein was Trump's buddy and neighbor - and as Trump admitted, they both "like girls"....

Want to now who's been invited to Mar-A-Lago this weekend? Robert "I visit massage parlors" Kraft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2I1c4G4tzY

Donnie keeps great company...

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Epstein lawyers were big Republican supporters. They colluded with a republican prosecutor to hide Epstein’s crimes.

Yet the Trumpets want to turn it into a Democratic conspiracy!

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The common opinions expressed in this thread are a huge reason why I stopped being a feminist.

What is being called pedophilia isn't. The word sex trafficking is always used in a way to mean involuntary even if it was voluntary. What is being called a lack of consent isn't. What is being called exploitation isn't. What is being called rape by some isn't. And by this I am not saying NONE of it was, just that people feel free to call all of it that even without clear cases of it for examples and most of all PROOF.

And worst of all is that if any of the worst claims are true its all driven by 1) overzealous laws which has created black markets for things that will NEVER cease to be in demand 2) money and power which are the primary means to access the black market 3) people who will do anything to get that money and power to partake in the black market 4) a division where some get the money and power and get to partake in the black market, and those who don't whose only remaining pleasure seems to be to condemn those who did ( out of jealousy ) 5) those who realized they could have gotten more out of the deal trying to belatedly alter the deal today 6) people lying about their opinion to be on the safe side.

I may no longer be a feminist but I do feel sorry for any woman or girl who was forced, tricked, coerced or whatever to participate. However I do feel that was a minority and that by lumping them in with the majority who deserve no sympathy what is going to happen is that Epstein and others are probably going to either walk away scot free or get a really light sentence. And when they do I want the majority of fire and brimstone people here to imagine me laughing in their face. Keep hurling those tomatoes for all the good its going to do.

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You mean alternative fact. The only one pushing that lie is the Federalist Papers - the alt-right conspiracy theory publisher and Trump cover-up machine.

I see you are rather fond of alternative facts yourself. The quote came from Bradley Edwards, a lawyer who represented Jefferey Epstein’s victims, and is recorded in court documents.

All verifiable, but it will burst that little bubble - so most don't bother and instead stick with their left wing propaganda rags that tell them what to think.

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I see you are rather fond of alternative facts yourself. The quote came from Bradley Edwards, a lawyer who represented Jefferey Epstein’s victims, and is recorded in court documents.

All verifiable, but it will burst that little bubble - so most don't bother and instead stick with their left wing propaganda rags that tell them what to think.

Hah! Epstein's lawyer - that's a real credible source. How come Donnie's lawyer hasn't verified it?

So explain why Trump Labor Secretary Acosta gave Epstein a sweetheart deal?

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Texas: The FBI was involved in investigating Epstein in the run up to the 2007 conviction. As such, they had to sign off on the disposition/plea agreement of the matter. Guess that kind of information is still on the slow boat to Japan.

Oh, they investigated. And they had so much incriminating information people are wondering now why Trump's boy Acosta created the plea deal. They did their jobs. Acosta didn't.

Look, you're a basic foot soldier. Your job is to get in, spread BS, then get out. It's best if you don't respond again when you've been exposed.

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What a laugh - watching the Trumpers here turn up the spin cycle to overload

As basically a centrist I find most of both sides in this to be jokes that long ago lost their ability to make me laugh. I just can't believe you all are not just completely sick of these sex scandals by now. You could take it back to Fatty Arbuckle or even Julius Caesar. People create the societal norms that create the unnecessary taboos, hysteria, desperation and frustration, which forces people to actions worse than they were actually interested in the first place, all of which creates ever greater scandals and victims. Have you not all got sick of this stupid cycle by now? I don't know. Seems to me if some of you got out in the real world and had lively sex lives of your own you would see how stupid all this crap is.

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Clinton only admitted to 4 trips because his statement limited the response to 2 specific years. What about all the other years Bill? Don’t worry liberal media will never ask him.

I somehow knew Trumps name would appear in this article before a Clinton was mentioned.

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The daughter of James Comey is the prosecutor for this, no?

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@Comanteer,

Excellent posts. I agree on all counts.

The Trump haters here are in obvious denial. A big part of their world is about to fall apart.

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BlacklabelJuly 9  11:03 pm JST

Clinton only admitted to 4 trips because his statement limited the response to 2 specific years. What about all the other years Bill? Don’t worry liberal media will never ask him.

They'll still be more questioning of the Clintons than the likes of you ever are of Donald Trump.

I somehow knew Trumps name would appear in this article before a Clinton was mentioned.

It's not that hard to figure out why, is it? Trump is the sitting president. There's probably more interest in his possible involvement as most people in America are liberally-inclined and the media outlets are just meeting the greater demand.

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The Republican Party - the Pervert Platoon Protecting Pedophiles.....

As for Bill Clinton - he's a pervert too - just like Donnie. It wouldn't surprise me if they were sitting side by side on the Lolita express. Clinton and Trump - two of a kind.....

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@Lincolnman,

Youre right about Bill Clinton, but dead wrong about Trump.

Clinton is going down, others too. But Trump isnt among them.

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