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U.S. House passes $95 billion Ukraine, Israel aid package; sends to Senate

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Good for them. That’s one for the forces of light. Spend it wisely Ukraine!

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for doing the right thing.

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Donald Trump, who carries huge influence in the party, on April 12 voiced support for Johnson and in a Thursday social media post said Ukraine's survival is important for the U.S.

MAGA folks, your master has spoken. Time to jump on the bandwagon.

Bob Good, chair of the hardline House Freedom Caucus, told reporters on Friday that the bills . . . “don't reflect the American people."

Welp, Bobby, they obviously do because they passed overwhelmingly.

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 $26 billion for Israel

Genocide sponsored by US Tax payer money, should thanks for people who filled their taxes last week.

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I like Johnson more now than I did before.

He got the job done.

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@PM: MAGA folks, your master has spoken. Time to jump on the bandwagon.

The cult's master has spoken, but what's the over/under on how long until he flip flops, perhaps says he never said anything? He's got his politician hat on so expect him to be all over the board on this, too. He's further splintering the Republican Party along with the country.

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@sakurasuki

Perhaps it is worth noting how many major news websites, such as the BBC, are headlining this story as "US House passes crucial Ukrainian aid deal worth $61bn", and buried deep in the article almost at the end it mentions the $26 billion for Israel.

So at least JapanToday has the integrity to call it as it is from the get-go.

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Good to see patriotism winning out one final time...

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It prolongs the war and increases the death and destruction but the outcome of the war is not in doubt.

Ukraine does not prevail.

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TobleroneToday 07:44 am JST

It prolongs the war and increases the death and destruction but the outcome of the war is not in doubt.

Ukraine does not prevail.

Does it make the Russian mother less willing to support Putin's imperialism? Why yes, yes it does.

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This Mike Johnson is a perfect example of the total moral hypocrisy of the current US political elite: a far-right Christian Fundamentalist pro-lifer who uses the Bible to justify the genocide of Palestinian children.

The US is ruled by corrupt monsters, depraved sociopaths funded by AIPAC.

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For once Mike Johnson led the Republicans to an actual-world solution, instead of pretending that the MAGA faction represents the people. He needed votes, found them, and got a bipartisan vote passed. That's how democracy should work.

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The Russians are going to be really angry about this one. It basically means that they will lose the war, and likely another collapse afterwards like when the USSR crashed due to the incompetent leadership after Chernobyl.

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"american values"....feel sorry abt more UA people must die in conflict they have zero chance to win...

The Russian's feel bad for the people whose country they invaded and are murdering. Surrree. If you believe that, I've got a bridge in Moscow I'll sell you for some borscht.

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If Russia were to withdraw from Ukraine, it would prevent any further loss of life among Ukrainians and Russians.

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EastmannToday 07:57 am JST

worthless to say anything.

"american values"....feel sorry abt more UA people must die in conflict they have zero chance to win...

They are not opposed to continuing the war. I guess Russian values are raping, robbing, and murdering if their government is believed to represent them.

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Russian constitution requires it to protect any Russian. They occupy parts of Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova already and there are ethnic Russians in all the Baltics (NATO), Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Uzbekistan…. You are naive if you think Ukraine is going to win this conflict.

MAGA folks, your master has spoken.

Master? Wrong party

Time to jump on the bandwagon. 

No, but this goes through ok and it still won’t help in the end, but yeah, let’s waste more taxpayer money just $95 billion.

Welp, Bobby, they obviously do because they passed overwhelmingly.

No, they don’t. Just because Washington wants it, the majority of people don’t.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-russia-ukraine-american-war-94404b3269a1effc8d94482a36387657

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If Russia were to withdraw from Ukraine, it would prevent any further loss of life among Ukrainians and Russians.

That is just not going to happen. That’s like praying and wishing for a cool breezy Japanese summer.

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Ukraine does not prevail.

Even if this is true, the message needs to be sent that the U.S. will stand firmly behind it’s friends

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It prolongs the war

Oh sorry, isn't the enemy surrendering quickly enough? Did you have another invasion you needed to get to?

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Ramsey's KitchenToday 08:18 am JST

Good to see patriotism winning out one final time...

Translation - good to see the military industrial complex winning, more profit$ and payof$ all around, thats what its all really about as is burried down in the article. There fixed for ya , no charge. Nothing to do with patriotism. More Gaza women and children will be massacred but some on here are apparently happy about that.

Passage of the long-awaited legislation was closely watched by U.S. defense contractors, who could be in line for huge contracts to supply equipment for Ukraine and other U.S. partners.

The US defense industry is 3% of US GDP, but keep trying that narrative.

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Over half of Republicans voted against it. Puts Trump in a tough position after backing Johnson. Huge divide between Moscow-Marjorie and MAGA-Mike.

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bass4funkToday 08:11 am JST

If Russia were to withdraw from Ukraine, it would prevent any further loss of life among Ukrainians and Russians.

That is just not going to happen. That’s like praying and wishing for a cool breezy Japanese summer.

Russia withdrew in disgrace from Afghanistan. You never know what can happen under sustained pressure.

Russian constitution requires it to protect any Russian. They occupy parts of Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova already and there are ethnic Russians in all the Baltics (NATO), Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Uzbekistan…. You are naive if you think Ukraine is going to win this conflict.

The Baltics are NATO allies. Are you saying we need to show our strength by handing them over? And how are you an expert in the Russian constitution? Reading up on some fan fiction?

MAGA folks, your master has spoken.

Master? Wrong party

Your party is literally a cult now.

Time to jump on the bandwagon. 

No, but this goes through ok and it still won’t help in the end, but yeah, let’s waste more taxpayer money just $95 billion.

So even the aid to Israel is a waste. Got it.

Welp, Bobby, they obviously do because they passed overwhelmingly.

No, they don’t. Just because Washington wants it, the majority of people don’t.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-russia-ukraine-american-war-94404b3269a1effc8d94482a36387657

Only a minority believe in shrinking America's role, according this very article. American's are also in favor of eliminating taxes, but ya know, adults have to have a say at some point.

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bass4funkToday 08:33 am JST

In this corner we have MAGA-Mike, otherwise know an LINO (Leader in Name Only)...holy protector of evangelicals everywhere...

Wrong, but with a gun to his head and the math going against, he doesn’t have a lot of options

Who is putting the gun to his head?

And in the other corner is Moscow-Marjorie, otherwise known as the "Kremlin Crusher", Russia's favorite puppet...

Putin could care less and probably doesn’t know who this woman is

He is smart enough to keep track of all of his useful idiots.

Tune in tonight to see who will prevail in the MAGA-throw-down of the century...

?

So who are our MAGA-friends here cheering for?

America.

Could have fooled me when you come here to tell us that our treaty allies deserve to be more vulnerable.

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"Mike Johnson is a lame duck ... he's done," far-right Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene told reporters afterward.

Be careful when you go outside Mike, rather than a knife in the back like your predecessor got, MTG is aiming her space-based lasers at you...

Representative Bob Good, chair of the hardline House Freedom Caucus, told reporters on Friday that the bills represent a "slide down into the abyss of greater fiscal crisis and America-last policies that reflect Biden and (Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck) Schumer and (House Democratic leader Hakeem) Jeffries, and don't reflect the American people."

Hey Bob, you forgot to include YOUR Repub Speaker and 101 of YOUR Repub House team members...

Isn't it great they are joining Biden, Nancy, Schiff, Schumer, and Jeffries to stick it you you and your fellow Freedom Caucus crazies?

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Ukraine does not prevail.

Ukraine will not be conquered. I am willing to put up real money that Ukraine is not conquered in 2024 or 2025. Any takers on this board? Not holding my breath.

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Russian constitution requires it to protect any Russian. 

They should amend their constitution before someone does it for them.

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Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene is a gutter politician and will try to drag others into it.

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Over half of Republicans voted against it. Puts Trump in a tough position after backing Johnson.

Not really actually, more like the other way around.

Huge divide between Moscow-Marjorie and MAGA-Mike.

Not really, they’re on the same page, it just comes down in the end to math, do they have the numbers and they don’t. So the Dems care more about Ukraine, the globalist party that they are over US so that takes up priority for them. America, blue states and their exploding homeless crisis is over little concern to them.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/04/20/ukraine-flags-flown-after-house-passes-60-billion-aid-package-n2638067

Who is putting the gun to his head?

Democrats

He is smart enough to keep track of all of his useful idiots.

Has nothing to do with being smart that’s already a given, but unlike Dems he’s not going to threaten his caucus if they don’t tow the line, he’s not taking the Pelosi route.

Could have fooled me when you come here to tell us that our treaty allies deserve to be more vulnerable.

Allies? Utter BS! What I said was, I care more about our nation, but like I said, this money won’t change the outcome of Ukraine’s ticking and impending doom.

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Just because Washington wants it, the majority of people don’t.

Guess we will see in November, won't we?

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Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene is a gutter politician and will try to drag others into it.

Politics like law is a gutter business

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At last.

Now, let's kick the imperial invaders out of all of sovereign Ukraine, and get Putin and his cohorts to the Hague for their war crimes trials ASAP.

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Who is putting the gun to his head?

Democrats

How are the Democrats putting a gun to his head. Please be specific. Does that mean the McCarthy and Pelosi also had guns to their heads?

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UA gets its ammo and is back in the fight.

Well done Mike. I hate your social policies and you won’t be speaker after November, but you did a good thing this time.

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Politics like law is a gutter business

You got that twisted. Doing right by your constituents is the people's business.

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Russian constitution requires it to protect any Russian. They occupy parts of Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova already and there are ethnic Russians in all the Baltics (NATO), Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Uzbekistan…. You are naive if you think Ukraine is going to win this conflict.

And other countries have a duty to protect their own borders from foreign invaders.

But I seem to remember at the start of the war you were less of an apologist for Russian imperialism, but over time have moved to a position shared with the very openly Kremlin -supporting posters on JT.

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Let's get Ukraine to the negotiating table--it's the least the US can do after letting Russia waltz into Crimea and Ukraine during the Obama, and Biden administrations.

And get the money to Israel; this wouldn't be needed if Trump was properly in office.

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Zibala - Ukraine and Russia will eventually talk, as will Israel and Palestine, but much better to negotiate from your strongest possible position, no?

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Only speaking the truth, got nothing to do with whining

Care to truthfully help me out with this one then? You seem to be implying that the borders of Russia don't end as long as there are Russians there. You know who that sounds like?

Russian constitution requires it to protect any Russian. 

http://www.constitution.ru/en/10003000-01.htm

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Care to place a little wager on this impending doom, Bass?

Absolutely.

How are the Democrats putting a gun to his head. Please be specific.

They are the ones that want, push and demand that this aid go through, do they not?

Does that mean the McCarthy and Pelosi also had guns to their heads?

McCarthy was in the same position, and I don’t care about Pelosi because the Dems will never say NO to any spending especially overseas or whatever toxic polices they want to spend money on.

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Huge divide between Moscow-Marjorie and MAGA-Mike.

Not really, they’re on the same page,

ROFL - I guess you missed MTG latest post;

Mike Johnson betrayed America once again.

After doing nothing to secure America’s Southern border, reauthorizing FISA to spy on the American people without a warrant, fully funding Joe Biden’s DOJ that has indicted President Trump 91 times, and giving Biden’s political gestapo a brand new FBI building bigger than the Pentagon, Speaker Johnson just sent $61 billion to fund the proxy war against Russia in Ukraine.

House Republicans and the American people would be stronger without his disloyalty and betrayal of his principles.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/04/20/mtg-ukraine-bill-n2638068

So explain to us again how they are on the "same page" when one accuses the other of "disloyalty" and "betrayal"...

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ROFL - I guess you missed MTG latest post;

No, l didn’t miss, like I said, love MTG, but Johnson just doesn’t have the numbers, lose the fight, not the war, there will be other battles prepare, that’s about it.

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So explain to us again how they are on the "same page" when one accuses the other of "disloyalty" and "betrayal"...

They absolutely are on the same page, the difference is she is not how speaker, Johnson is with the hand that he dealt with, he pretty much has no choice, now if Marjorie thinks he’s disloyal, on paper it would seem so in spirit he’s actually 100% not, so I did both sides. Not blaming either of them, it is what it is for now.

For a man who hates politicians

Yes, I hate party line-towing Washington establishment swamp career politicians.

you sure do love a lot of politicians.

No, not really. Been very clear on that one for years.

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What’s the over/under on Zelensky wanting money again? 90 days?

they couldn’t win with this amount of money already given last time, so not sure why people think they can win this time.

34 trillion and counting in debt now.

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I hate party line-towing Washington establishment swamp career politicians.

For a man who hates party line-towing Washington establishment swamp career politicians you sure do love a lot of party line-towing Washington establishment swamp career politicians.

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Ukraine and Russia will eventually talk, as will Israel and Palestine, but much better to negotiate from your strongest possible position, no?

Each day that goes by without Ukraine coming to the negotiation table, more women and children die.

Every day that goes by without the Hamas terrorists releasing the hostages, more terrorists die.

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

For a man who hates party line-towing Washington establishment swamp career politicians you sure do love a lot of party line-towing Washington establishment swamp career politicians.

No, not at all.

-9 ( +4 / -13 )

Each day that goes by without Ukraine coming to the negotiation table, more women and children die.

Yes, and that’s not going to change unless someone gets rid of Putin.

Every day that goes by without the Hamas terrorists releasing the hostages, more terrorists die.

Martyrdom is not always a smartest thing, it hasn’t saved their top leadership.

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So explain to us again how they are on the "same page" when one accuses the other of "disloyalty" and "betrayal"...

"They absolutely are on the same page, the difference is she is not how speaker, Johnson is with the hand that he dealt with, he pretty much has no choice, now if Marjorie thinks he’s disloyal, on paper it would seem so in spirit he’s actually 100% not, so I did both sides. Not blaming either of them, it is what it is for now."

I just love how he keeps digging...

if Marjorie thinks he’s disloyal, on paper it would seem so in spirit he’s actually 100% not, so I did both sides.

Marjorie doesn't "think" he's disloyal - read her tweet - she said it plain and clear - he betrayed the MAGA-cause and sided with the enemy. How do you conspire and collude with Dems and still be on the "same page"?

You need to read he post again; "After doing nothing to secure America’s Southern border, reauthorizing FISA to spy on the American people without a warrant, fully funding Joe Biden’s DOJ that has indicted President Trump 91 times, and giving Biden’s political gestapo a brand new FBI building bigger than the Pentagon, Speaker Johnson just sent $61 billion to fund the proxy war against Russia in Ukraine."

So, is she correct or is she lying?

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More like about the inevitable increase in casualties all around and prolonging the war.

There is one thing Russia can do to immediately end it. Ukraine will not be conquered.

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Largest money laundering scheme in U.S History, but I’m not surprised that the corrupt politicians and federal government are behind it. Very sad day for Americans, they have a government that no longer cares about their citizens.

The total amount of money given to the Ukrainian government by all the different countries, must be well over a trillion by now.

-6 ( +5 / -11 )

More money for genocide.

And this comes from the one and only country that does not want Palestine to become a full member of the U.N.

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No, l didn’t miss, like I said, love MTG, but Johnson just doesn’t have the numbers

lol did the bill pass or not? Did mtg oust him or not?

Who has the numbers?

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Who has the numbers?

The good guys.

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There is one thing Russia can do to immediately end it. Ukraine will not be conquered.

If that is true then they don’t need our money.

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

Europe owes the US government, its people (taxpayer) a huge debt of gratitude.

One day, maybe soon such funds, circumstance will not avail unconditionally.

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Yep, Im upset that more will die and be wounded especially civilians caught in the middle. 

Supporting Putins invasion is an odd way of caring about casualties.

Did Putin tell you that it’s all their own fault?

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lol did the bill pass or not? Did mtg oust him or not? 

Like I said, he had a gun to his head.

Who has the numbers?

Mike doesn’t.

The good guys.

The ones that rather spend more of our money overseas over our people in the U.S.?

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-money-congress-weapons-dd5076b30bf8fab5c914a1222186e7f0

Dumb as usual typical of the left

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“War is terrible, no way to put it, but giving in is just not an option.”

Well said Bass.

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I just love how he keeps digging...

No digging, the Dems made it clear, foreign countries over Americans, that’s your treason right there..

Marjorie doesn't "think" he's disloyal

She can think and say publicly what she wants, they’re both on the same page, but she’s not House Speaker he is.

So, is she correct or is she lying?

Not lying, but she’s correct and a bit misguided of some of the facts.

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lol did the bill pass or not? Did mtg oust him or not? 

Like I said, he had a gun to his head.

The correct answer would have been “yes the bill passed, no mtg didn’t do anything.”

But you do you.

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Supporting Putins invasion is an odd way of caring about casualties. 

Not support, just don’t care, I’m an American Nationalist.

Did Putin tell you that it’s all their own fault?

Putin will do what he wants and we are not going to stop him. Ukraine is toast basically.

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Blacklabel

What’s the over/under on Zelensky wanting money again? 90 days?

This aid should last until November when the Democrats take back the house.

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The correct answer would have been “yes the bill passed, no mtg didn’t do anything.”

And Ukraine won’t win this.

Hope and money won’t save that country.

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I am reviewing adequate Ukrainian telegram channels on the topic of American money... Ukrainians are terrified! Most of them cannot leave the territory of Ukraine. Borders are closed, people are locked inside the country like in a cage. Zelensky and Co have already developed their escape routes.

Americans have "poured gasoline on the fire" and are raging here. Congratulations to you! Another step towards nuclear hell has been taken!

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

Hope and money won’t save that country.

Oh well, maybe mtg will do something about it. Probably some kind of tweet I’d imagine.

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Ramsey's Kitchen

There is one thing Russia can do to immediately end it. Ukraine will not be conquered.

Probably not I agree , but when it all settles down the borders will likely end up more or less where the frontline is now. Question is how much longer and how many lives will be lost until that happens.

Your calls for peace are misguided, because Putin doesn't want peace.

He wants more of Ukraine.

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I heard a rumour that if MTG calls for a motion to vacate, more Republicans will resign. Which will give the majority to the Democrats.

That's how frustrated normal Republicans are with the RINO Twitter faction, lead by MTG.

If she continues this disfunction, they will press the detonate button.

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Good old US is so happy to waste thousands of millions and millions in lost causes while it's own country in literary on fire..

Lost causes as:

kyiv regime..

Chinese province of Taiwan..

Israel genocide..

What a decadent circUS..

-3 ( +5 / -8 )

Chinese province of Taiwan..

Independent

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

No digging, the Dems made it clear, foreign countries over Americans, that’s your treason right there..

How many Republicans voted for this bill Bass? Which party does speaker Johnson belong to Bass?

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I was replying to a completely different idiot

Liberal? Not me

Enough libs here though.

Oh well, maybe mtg will do something about it. Probably some kind of tweet I’d imagine.

As an American Nationalist probably nothing.

I heard a rumour that if MTG calls for a motion to vacate, more Republicans will resign. Which will give the majority to the Democrats.

As you said, for once you got it right, it’s a rumor, nothing more

That's how frustrated normal Republicans are with the RINO Twitter faction, lead by MTG.

Depends on who you’re asking.

If she continues this disfunction, they will press the detonate button.

Hardly

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

Hope and money won’t save that country.

You don’t know that.

It sure won’t help the Russians you not so secretly favor.

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How many Republicans voted for this bill Bass? Which party does speaker Johnson belong to Bass?

Ear wax? Again, it doesn’t matter at this point, that money will not save the inevitable. Ukraine will fall. Just a matter of time

-10 ( +4 / -14 )

When are they gonna pass civil rights,women rights and gay legislation,it cause the government nothing but people like Johnson do not want to pass it

-9 ( +0 / -9 )

Predictable. This will enrich the US and further ruin Ukraine and cause more Ukrainians to die because of the Kyiv-regime.

Won't amount to a hill of beans.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

You don’t know that. 

Yes, I do know that.

It sure won’t help the Russians you not so secretly favor.

Sticks and stones? It doesn’t have to help Russia, it has what it needs, raw manpower.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

Ukraine will fall.

Putin has taken over the Trump party

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Bass, war is terrible, no way to put it, but giving in is just not an option.

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Glad they got this done!

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Johnson is no different from Trump and other Republican trash ,they all cut from the same cloth

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The vote on passage of the Ukraine funding was 311-112. Significantly, 112 Republicans opposed the legislation, with only 101 in support.

> "Mike Johnson is a lame duck ... he's done," far-right Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene told reporters afterward.

Anyone else waiting for her to do something significant in Congress? The only thing she's "good" for is trying to sink anything the Democrats and most of America want passed. Utterly useless.

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And the pathetic congress waving Ukraine little flags..

The will look so stupid when Kyiv regime collapse..

LOOOOOL

-10 ( +4 / -14 )

The only thing she's "good" for is trying to sink anything the Democrats and most of America want passed.

No, most Americans didn’t want it passed, and good on her for trying, America and Americans should come first and foremost, most of the Democrats and this administration wanted it passed.

Utterly useless.

Never liked Biden.

The national debt — which measures what the U.S. owes its creditors — increased to $34,583,094,965,544.54 as of Wednesday afternoon, according to the latest numbers published by the Treasury Department. That is down about $6.6 billion from the $34,576,488,508,928.92 figure reported the previous day.

Well, Joe definitely surpassed Trump, now it’s more than official.

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Who gonna fund American citizens when they need help

-3 ( +5 / -8 )

Interesting math there. Nice to see the Moscow regime will face some resistance again. Seems a waste that a lot more Russians to die.

Predictable. This will enrich the US and further ruin Ukraine and cause more Ukrainians to die because of the Kyiv-regime.

Won't amount to a hill of beans.

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Who gonna fund American citizens when they need help

That will never happen, Republicans don't allow for a social safety net. So it's a non-issue.

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Americans better hope Republicans aren't in charge if America is invaded. The Republicans would surrender in a minute, especially if it was a strong enough dictator doing the invasion.

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most Americans didn’t want it passed

Correction: Most MAGA don't want it passed.

Remember, most of America didn't want MAGA. And they do want to support Ukraine.

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lol last year you claimed Biden increased the debt BY $34 trillion. Remember that little gem? 

Yup.

I’d hold off on the predictions for a while.

$34,583,094,965,544.54 

As of now nothing to predict. Tick, tick…

Remember when you claimed that getting the House would end aid to Ukraine?

Yup, and Russia is still there

How’d that pan out? 

For me or the Ukrainians?

It’s just not going your way is it?

Neither for Zelenskyy.

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Putin government, with the vast energy resources, Nord stream pipelines an example, chosen a path of peace, become a true European statemen. Russia a leader.

However Putin couldn't see past the old decrepit soviet despot ideology.

His invasion of Ukraine, his war crimes, a needless unnecessary war, has also revealed Europe/EU/UK refusal to protect it peoples.

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lol last year you claimed Biden increased the debt BY $34 trillion. Remember that little gem? 

Yup.

So do you believe the debt is now $64 trillion or are you finally going to admit you were wrong?

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Correction: Most MAGA don't want it passed.

Correction: most Americans don’t want it passed.

https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/us-news/most-republicans-oppose-us-aid-to-ukraine-trust-trump-above-all-for-info-on-war-poll/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/14/briefing/ukraine-us-aid.html

Remember, most of America didn't want MAGA.

Half

And they do want to support Ukraine.

Then there wouldn’t be any opposition.

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You can spend all the money you want when you have a terminally ill patient and in the end, that patient will still die, you’re just prolonging the inevitable.

So just give up whenever something is difficult? That is the principle you wish US foreign policy to be based on? How well do you think America is going to survive in a world dominated by China, Russia, Iran, North Korea and all the countries in the world that absolutely despise America? That is what you are rooting for.

And just because Ukraine is having a hard time due to ammunition shortages, which are about to be remedied, doesn’t make it “terminally ill”. Cutting off life support to a patient who would otherwise survive, which is what you Putin apologists have been cheerleading for, so you could use that excuse to do nothing is just pathetic and delusional.

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So do you believe the debt is now $64 trillion or are you finally going to admit you were wrong?

Wrong?

$34,583,094,965,544.54 Tick, tick, tick…

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Wrong?

Yes. You claimed Biden added $34 trillion to the debt. Then dug your heels in as you always do when you are wrong. Then pretended you didn’t.

Don’t remember?

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Grab your popcorn for the Republican Civil War. They are not serious people and they are not fit to govern anything.

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itsonlyrocknroll

a needless unnecessary war, has also revealed Europe/EU/UK refusal to protect it peoples.

Let's leave "war crimes" to decide to courts.

About "refusal to protect its own people. Absolutely! For me it was an unexpected discovery. I am very pleased to see such a reasonable thought here. Here today in the midst of this sabbath.

Unfortunately, America will not stop. It's a matter of prestige. The prestige almost completely lost.

The first is revenge for Crimea. The lost Crimea is an unforgettable personal insult to someone in the governing American (world) elite. And the second thing...Many Ukrainian riches have already been bought out by global corporations and individual money bags. This is the property on the Ukrainian territory that America is fighting for...Russia doesn't need to expand its territory

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Yes. You claimed Biden added $34 trillion

True.

Don’t remember?

Yes

Grab your popcorn for the Republican Civil War. They are not serious people and they are not fit to govern anything.

Come again?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/09/13/americans-trust-trump-biden-economy/70845445007/

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