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U.S. records nearly 20 mass killings for the year so far

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By MARTHA BELLISLE and MEGHAN HOYER

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"There hasn't been an increase except in fear."

And it's fear that keeps gun owners buying more guns and ammo, putting more guns in circulation and in the hands of the portion of the population that fears the most.

Their fear is magnified by leaders constantly reminding them there are 'others' to be afraid of.

Their fear is further magnified by the guns and ammo industry saying guns will protect them - from the 'others'.

The more guns sold, the more guns used. The more guns sold, the more stolen and put in the hands of criminals.

The more guns sold, the richer the guns and ammo industries become.

And the cycle continues.

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I'm so upset about this....wish I had a gun. Then I could be manly

So stupid and so sad people die because of ease of access

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The country we live in has been manipulated to enrich the rich and keep the workers in their place. You're not getting healthcare nor meaningful gun control because most of our representatives don't represent the wishes of the majority, they represent their big donors who don't like unions, don't like regulation, don't like (what they call) socialism and don't really care for minorities who demand a place at the table. Profits before people, and don't forget it!

A garlic festival? A music festival? A local country/western dance bar? People are getting mowed down at schools, at work, on the streets, in stores - at church! The vast majority of the slaughter is committed by homegrown American terrorists - precisely what they are - and your homeland security won't use the term when the shooters are white.

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So stupid and so sad people die because of ease of access

"it's about lack of decent mental health systems" they'll say but when confronted with the reality of the rigorous testing and analysis that would need to happen, everybody who argues that point seems to suddenly go quiet about it.

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Sick that is what this is....if this isnt a National Emergency I really dont know what is...If Trump really wants to make America great again stop this pointless killing now get some serious gun reform into place..

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The country we live in has been manipulated to enrich the rich and keep the workers in their place. You're not getting healthcare

90.6% of Americans are insured and have healthcare coverage.

nor meaningful gun control because most of our representatives don't represent the wishes of the majority,

That’s a bunch of garbage! We have enough gun laws on the books.

they represent their big donors who don't like unions, don't like regulation,

Liberals support unions, regulations up to ans including shredding the 2nd amendment

don't like (what they call) socialism and don't really care for minorities who demand a place at the table. Profits before people, and don't forget it!

What?

A garlic festival? A music festival? A local country/western dance bar? People are getting mowed down at schools, at work, on the streets, in stores - at church!

Again, not true, with all the guns that are registered in Texas or even in Wisconsin, if people WERE getting mowed down with as many gun owners as these States have, there would be body piles of people every few minutes by the thousands because every time you have a conflict you would shoot someone.

The vast majority of the slaughter is committed by homegrown American terrorists - precisely what they are - and your homeland security won't use the term when the shooters are white.

Funny, when the suspect or the terrorist as you said is NOT White the media will do what it can to make sure the identity of the person is not mentioned. You will never get rid of guns regardless of what laws you come up with, you will never get rid of drugs or porn, it just won’t happen, they couldn’t even get rid of alcohol. There will always be a want and a need and access to these things and if they can’t get them legally, they will get them illegally. Either way this notion of wasting time to come up with more legislation to try and take guns off the streets or to eliminate them, will never happen as long as there is a US.

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only 20?! when any moron can but a gun that is surprisingly low

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Either way this notion of wasting time to come up with more legislation to try and take guns off the streets or to eliminate them, will never happen as long as there is a US

As long as gun culture is deemed more important than people's lives, the slaughter will continue.

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I'm wondering how many victims were registered owners who had been able to use their gun to protect themselves or others.

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It's the mass killings on the news which prompt people to think "I need a gun to protect me and my family."

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As long as gun culture is deemed more important than people's lives, the slaughter will continue.

I would say the opposite. I think not having them can be a problem. During Katrina, hundreds of people were robbed and had their homes or business looted, the ones with guns held the thugs off, so it was a good thing and they were the lucky ones, so you can easily make the counter argument.

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When you have hundreds of millions of guns and easy access to them, mass shootings are just a regular part of life. It's not rocket science.

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Sad. There were at least 2 mass killings in Japan this year that I recall. The guy in Kawasaki who attacked children on a school bus and the Kyoto animation arsonist. Many of these mass killings in both countries seem related to mental health lapses.

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During Katrina, hundreds of people were robbed and had their homes or business looted, the ones with guns held the thugs off, so it was a good thing and they were the lucky ones, so you can easily make the counter argument.

Katrina hit deprived areas and was woefully handled by the govt of the time. That's what happens in disaster areas, all across the world. People need food and aid.

But this is the usual Trumpist deflection. How many more massacres before something is done?

Ten?

Twenty?

A hundred?

A thousand?

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When is the Government going to implement stricter gun control?

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@bas4f Either way this notion of wasting time to come up with more legislation t

Typical partisan extremist 'reasoning': if you can't solve one of life's many problems 100%, don't try. And yet these same people push for authoritarian regimes to 'solve' life's problems, which in their minds are almost always caused by the ubiquitous 'them' (they're everywhere), the 'others'. SMH

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When you have hundreds of millions of guns and easy access to them, mass shootings are just a regular part of life. It's not rocket science

Then the population of Texas would be wiped out. Sorry...

Katrina hit deprived areas and was woefully handled by the govt of the time.

Doesn’t matter, that’s not the issue, the issue is, a lot of people would have lost their wealth, livelihood and everything else had they not had firearms. The same goes for the LA riots, the majority of Korean store owners were being unfairly attacked and their stores burned down to the ground by those criminals and the same thing, if those people didn’t have guns, many more store owners would have lost their business or even their lives.

How many more massacres before something is done?

Like what? Everything I have said before, you will drive the gun culture underground and make it even bigger.

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There are people. There are guns. We can only get rid of one.

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Typical partisan extremist 'reasoning':

The truth is now extreme? Huh?

if you can't solve one of life's many problems 100%, don't try.

You can try, but succeeding is something entirely different.

There are other solutions to look at, but taking guns away, will never happen.

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@Toasted Heretic

As long as gun culture is deemed more important than people's lives, the slaughter will continue.

I think you are right, it's the culture that needs changed not the law.

And especially as it is exporting that culture to the rest of the world through its media.

People forget, and the vast majority of pro 2nd Amendment Americans are utterly ignorant to the fact, that Japan once had the high proportion of guns per capita in the world, and the best available ones at that time.

Yet it was able to make a conscious decision to wipe the culture out and now we have Japan today where single figure national gun death statistics are considered a national shame.

The solutions will not be found in unenforcable repressive laws but is resolving the problems that cause people to turn to guns.

What Japan and other evolved European nations proves, is that it can be done. That like does not end once you renounce your phallic substitute.

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bass4funkToday  08:30 am JST

The country we live in has been manipulated to enrich the rich and keep the workers in their place. You're not getting healthcare

90.6% of Americans are insured and have healthcare coverage.

Interesting point. We can then assume that 30+million people do not have access to health care, which I'm presuming indicates that they don't often consult doctors including mental health specialists.

Be an interesting metric to see how many violent gun crimes including mass murder, were carried out by those not being able to access psychological / physical health care. 30million is more than many countries pop. I guess we will never know. But that's besdides the point.

Sadly it's all too late. Saturation point has long been reached and any attempt at drying up the weapons pool is futile because vested interests - eg nra, politicians, businesses etc - just keep topping it up with a constant stream, a natural fountain head protected by archaic voodoo in the Good Old 2nd amen(dment).

What a mess.

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you will drive the gun culture underground and make it even bigger.

Right! The last thing the US needs is a gun culture like Japan's. The sheer size of the Japanese underground gun market is mindboggling.

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I read an article yesterday that stated if you include shootings that involve 4 or more deaths, there has been one a day on average.

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There are other solutions to look at, but taking guns away, will never happen.

As long as you repeat that mantra, as long as you accept the indoctrination and propaganda about guns and your rights, then yes, it will be a struggle.

But someday, a politician and/or a movement will come along to counter the gun lobby and the madness.

If you can wage wars on death cults like ISIS, you can certainly tackle the NRA.

Sacrificing thousands of innocents every year is something that belongs in medieval times.

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The National Rifle Association (NRA) still contends that people kill people.

A combination of assault weapons and mental illness does it.

Stop the madness ... enough is enough.

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There have always been mass killings by knife, ax, car, and guns. We have see an increase in the last couple of decades, I am the first to admit this, but, we also have seen an increase in children put on medication for everything and anything, here is a quote,

Children with "serious emotional problems" have these problems for a reason-—and the reason (or reasons) is/are most often in the child's family or social context. But discovering causes is a lot more difficult than counting up symptoms and medicating them away.*

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/suffer-the-children/201710/do-children-really-need-psychiatric-medication

No one seems to be able to communicate theses days, blame it on the technology, bad parenting, too many channels on the T.V, take your pick!

If all parents took the time to talk with their children and got to the root of their problems, a lot of these shooting would not happen, but in today's society it seems medicating is the easy option, but not always the right one!

Another interesting quote,

Stimulant medications may rarely increase the risk for agitation or psychotic or manic symptoms with stimulant medications use. Contact the doctor immediately if your child has sudden new or worsening behavior or sees or hears things that aren't real while taking stimulant medication.

"Rarely", but it still happens, and how many parents actually pay attention to how their children act, or actually act on any problems that may arise!

Criminals will always have a way of getting a gun, if they can't get a gun, then a car will do! Get to the root of the problem and there will be a decrease in these mass killings, until then they will find a way, gun or not, guns just happen to be the easiest option!

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Several studies have shown that the presence of a gun in a house vastly increases the rate of domestic violence. I don't know whether that's because gun owners are inherently more violent or whether the presence of a gun provides a means when one loses it (we've all had those days), but the conclusion is obvious: don't own a gun.

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The core of the issue at hand is far beyond guns and gun control.

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I thought the USA always liked to be number 1? Come on Americans, Mexico is beating you when it comes to killings. Already over 14,600 murders there from Jan to June. Time to step up your game.

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The Katrina comments about the people needed food and aid, so that's why they robbed and plundered. It's total bs. The people who were held off by armed property owners were not asking for food or water. They were looting people's personal belongings, trying to steal copper piping from homes, etc. The two are not even comparable.

It's the same bs when you see the LA Riots. Those looters were simply looking for an opportunity to steal anything they could because that's the mentality. Burn down your own community. You're so outraged by the police acquittals so you steal liquor, shoes, electronics, etc.

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And the whole easy access to firearms, dead wrong. There are no states in the US which allows a US Citizen to walk into a store and purchase a firearm by simply showing a photo ID. Stop spreading lies.

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I thought the USA always liked to be number 1? Come on Americans, Mexico is beating you when it comes to killings. Already over 14,600 murders there from Jan to June. Time to step up your game.

due mostly to the drug cartels killing off their enemies, vast majority of all weapons the cartels get are from the US

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The National Rifle Association (NRA) still contends that people kill people.

The NRA is a cult. TRUMP2ANRA members are paying for Wayne's private jet flights and his expensive custom Italian suits.

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Mental health screenings for everyone that currently owns a firearm or wants to purchase one is a great idea. It, however, is a very intrusive form of gun control. Such a system would require a great deal of extremely intimate personal information being stored by the government.

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And the whole easy access to firearms, dead wrong. There are no states in the US which allows a US Citizen to walk into a store and purchase a firearm by simply showing a photo ID. Stop spreading lies.

That's not the only definition of easy access to firearms, so why are you trying to spread that lie?

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USA should have sanctions against it and a UN peacekeeping force to collect all their guns.

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@ Chip Star

Japan has mental health screenings for everyone that currently owns a firearm or wants to purchase one and it seems to work okay, so why not? If you don't want your personal information stored by the government, don't buy a gun, simple.

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Right! The last thing the US needs is a gun culture like Japan's.

It didn’t stop prohibition.

The sheer size of the Japanese underground gun market is mindboggling

The US is not Japan, we have the 2nd amendment, in the US the Democrats will never get rid of it, that’s a promise.

Several studies have shown that the presence of a gun in a house vastly increases the rate of domestic violence.

And there are studies that show the opposite, of course you can find a study that will support your argument, we can find one that support ours.

I don't know whether that's because gun owners are inherently more violent or whether the presence of a gun provides a means when one loses it (we've all had those days), but the conclusion is obvious: don't own a gun.

What? When you go to Oregon to protest, those idiots don’t use guns, but they don’t need it, they can be just as violence and will use anything and everything To physically hurt anyone they hate or disagrees with their radical philosophy.

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Japan has mental health screenings for everyone that currently owns a firearm or wants to purchase one and it seems to work okay, so why not? If you don't want your personal information stored by the government, don't buy a gun, simple.

That is exactly my point. And, anyone proposing such a system is for some extremely stringent firearm control laws.

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CrazyJoeToday  07:45 am JST

The vast majority of the slaughter is committed by homegrown American terrorists - precisely what they are - and your homeland security won't use the term when the shooters are white.

They don't properly identify the shooters when they are non-white, so saying that they don't label them terrorists because they are white is in actual fact saying they don't use the term terrorist at all.

Maybe they should, I agree with that if that was the shooters intention (to commit terror), but to shoehorn race into this discussion is clutching at straws.

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Prohibition is unrelated to firearms culture. Completely irrelevant. A bad faith argument.

Love the disco Bring actual studies by claiming we can find studies that support the opposite. It's complete nonsense and not how the credibility of studies is determined.

The difference betweeem using a firearm and a concrete milkshake or other non-explosive weapons is that firearms allow for far more people to be injured or killed. Some people simply refuse to employ any modicum of logic in their flailing arguments.

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It'll never be fixed.

With capitalism and lobbying the problem can never be solved just like other major issues in the US such as healthcare and transportation

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To add on, I feel that US probably has more mass killings may be influenced by the culture of having freedom of expression with little to no consideration to others.

While other countries that have freedom of speech are just more considerate somehow.

As to why this happens, perhaps education and media?

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@Middleoftheroad

Along with the gun industry lobby's other mantras, like "taking guns away, will never happen (aka cold, dead hands)" and "people kill people", is "criminals will always have a way of getting a gun".

But, again, as I wrote about the disarming of Japan, it's clearly not true.

The good thing about limiting society's access from assault weapons to kitchen utilities, is that it slows down the delivery of death and reduces its distance of effectiveness, until all you need to restrain the perpetrator is a big shepherd's crook (sasumata).

No one would dream of suggest Japan does not have a criminal underworld, even a vicious criminal underworld, and yet what do we find, even they eschewed guns ... so let's look at how and why the culture was successfully changed and even criminals accepted it.

Has Japan not got sufficient remote rivers and bays that any amount of guns could be flooding the country, and yet even the criminal underworld don't partly because it's uncool, partly because they have evolve highly specific and effecient deterents.

You could, however, buy one from an Iranian or a Korean foot soldier yak in the old days. No idea how it is now.

It's a wonder with such a problem that the US does not study and adopt successful models from Japan, including its prison system.

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Yeah, take the guns away; just like in Venezuela, so only the police and paramilitary have guns -- how is that working out. When are people going to get it; most of the mass shooting incidents have a mental health component. Progressive politicians (on both sides of the aisle) have put laws in place over the years that make it almost impossible to commit someone to a mental institution. I admit mental instability is only one part of the gun violence problem, but just like cutting entitlements, strengthening mental health screening is the third rail of politics in America; everyone has rights, even the crazies...

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in America; everyone has rights, even the crazies...

Well, Vern, the constitution does say that all people in the US enjoy equal protection of the laws. If you don't like it, feel free to leave. America, love it or leave it; isn't that what your team always says?

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take the guns away; just like in Venezuela, so only the police and paramilitary have guns -- how is that working out.

Yes, take the guns away; just like in Japan, so only the police and paramilitary have guns -- just look at how that's working out!

It's weird you guys choose a 3rd-world nation that's mostly a dictatorship, and filled with corruption, as your baseline. Is that really how low you see your country?

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Was that 20 mass shootings a day? Can't be for the year Chicago has had more than that along. What are they considering a mass shooting 10 victims?

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Chip Star: I've lived in Japan for 35 years. In the US, state and local politicians started closing down mental health facilities in the 80's to save money and their thinking was to give the mentally ill medication -- they will take it if you give it to them -- that worked out really well, didn't it...

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Probably on course for yet another record year... With 380 million firearms in circulation and a climate of suspicion, anger, fear and racism, what else would you expect?

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started closing down mental health facilities in the 80's to save money 

Funny, that's about the same time semi autos started selling more and more. Is the solution more powerful military grade fully auto machine guns to fight the semi autos?

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90.6% of Americans are insured and have healthcare coverage.

Do you think it's a good thing that 9.4% of the population are uninsured? Do you think those people should have access to medical treatment, or is it just tough luck / serves them right for being losers etc.?

The fear of being fired and losing their healthcare keeps many employees from demanding better wages, longer holidays etc. Instead of wasting trillions of dollars bombing dumps in the Middle East, why not spend the money defending Americans from disease by giving everyone access to treatment?

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Mental health facilities still exist in the US at hospitals. It sounds like a conservative is advocating for bigger government to ensure a certain segment of the IS population takes their medication.

Talk about a dictatorship.

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When it comes to gun homicide and mass shootings America is on sick puppy with the highest rates of gun homicides in the developed world. The people who can change that are also the ones resisting any changes to the gun laws or the type of weapons available. They even put their own gun rights above the rights of little children going to school without the fear of being shot and killed. Shameful is what I can say.

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Honestly, it's a shoulder shrug. They do it to themselves, 100%. Any of the supporters on here, protecting gun rights, are probably hiding in basements with 24 or so guns, bragging about rights, and are so paranoid they'd shoot someone who knocks on their door in two seconds. This is the state of the US -- mass killings to common that they make war zones look like paradise. NRA is the only one laughing, except for all the infighting (imagine if they allowed guns near their meetings!).

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As always liberals try to make the baseless issue that guns are the problem when they are clearly not. If it were, millions of people would be dead, half of my neighbors would be gone, that just isn’t true, but it’s easy to focus on a few incidents and make them as if is a widespread epidemic when it’s not, Opioids kill more people and in greater numbers than guns, but since the Democrats don’t have any real policies to go on, the gun debate, although a waste of time to peddle to get rid of guns or abolish the 2nd amendment will never and because the Democrats are so dishonest, they campaign something should be done and they know nothing can or will be done because many of their constituents are gun owners they would be shooting themselves in the foot. People have the right to hunt, go target practicing and use it for protection.

Been raised around guns my whole life, my kids a NRA member as well and as a law abiding citizen, I have that right and people don’t walk on the street and just randomly shoot people, it just doesn’t happen like that. There should be more awareness and more education about guns, and as I said before I think we should look into re-opening mental asylum‘s for people that are mentally disturbed and that need help and change the laws so that people that don’t qualify or meet the safety standards should never be allowed to own a firearm. But confiscating guns will never, ever happen.

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bass4funk

As always liberals try to make the baseless issue that guns are the problem when they are clearly not. 

But they are, because its the guns which killed the victims. If there were no available guns the killers might decide against a mass killing or they might decide on another weapon like a knife or even a truck. But a gun has a single use, to kill. Trucks and knives have many uses.

but it’s easy to focus on a few incidents and make them as if is a widespread epidemic when it’s not, 

America has the highest rates of gun homicide and mass shooting than any other developed country. Unacceptable rates that would not be tolerated in Japan. UK European countries. Much more than a few incidents. Shows you have no empathy for the victims.

Opioids kill more people and in greater numbers than guns,

Simple case of you deflecting. Sure but cancer and heart diseases kill a million every year.

People have the right to hunt, go target practicing and use it for protection.

Tighter more restrictive gun laws and gun registration, testing and mental health checks does not remove those activities. You don't need to go hunting with an assault rifle. You are happy to live in a country, Japan without any gun ownership rights? How so?

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Bass: Don't forget that you are pro-stringent firearm control and big government in the form of requiring mental health checks for all current firearms owners and anyone that wants to purchase one.

Mental health screenings for everyone that currently owns a firearm or wants to purchase one is a great idea. It, however, is a very intrusive form of gun control. Such a system would require a great deal of extremely intimate personal information being stored by the government.

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But they are,

No, they aren’t.

because its the guns which killed the victims. If there were no available guns the killers might decide against a mass killing or they might decide on another weapon like a knife or even a truck.

Oh, gee...as if other weapons that kill people more acceptable. Lol

Again, it won’t happen, I’m not even worried by it. Let this be known, if any liberal nutty Democrat that becomes President and would go after the 2nd amendment, the Democrat party would cease as we know it.

Simple case of you deflecting. Sure but cancer and heart diseases kill a million every year.

Guns can also save people, protect and provide food. I find it laughable that rich people and entertainers, politicians can hire people with guns to d9 the same thing I can do. Again, thank God for the 2nd amendment.

People have the right to hunt, go target practicing and or use it for protection.

Tighter more restrictive gun laws and gun registration, testing and mental health checks does not remove those activities.

But it oils greatly help and curb mentally disturbed people from obtaining guns.

You don't need to go hunting with an assault rifle.

That is not for you or anyone else to say or decide what a person needs, wants or can have. Liberals are so bold...funny. Lol

You are happy to live in a country, Japan without any gun ownership rights? How so?

I live mostly in the States so I have gun ownership and us it as ell as my family and wife who is Japanese who loves our 2nd amendment and when I’m in Japan, I do as the law tells me and it’s not a problem, never was and never will be.

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requiring mental health checks for all current firearms owners and anyone that wants to purchase one.

That is one solution.

Mental health screenings for everyone that currently owns a firearm or wants to purchase one is a great idea.

I think so.

It, however, is a very intrusive form of gun control. Such a system would require a great deal of extremely intimate personal information being stored by the government.

It should be with the exception for those that have a serious and historical problem with mental health problems, everyone else that pass the basic tests would be waived from giving too. Ich information they feel could disturb their privacy.

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That's not the only definition of easy access to firearms, so why are you trying to spread that lie?

The term "easy access" is exactly how people who say it want to make it sound - as if you can walk over to Walmart, the local gun store, or online, plop down some cash or credit card and a photo ID and walk out with a handgun or assault rifle.

Only someone who's actually gone thru the process of obtaining a firearm would be an accurate source of knowing how "easy" it is to obtain one. And I can tell you that there's nothing quick or easy about it.

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Several studies have shown that the presence of a gun in a house vastly increases the rate of domestic violence.

Laguna - Can you provide links to those studies that show having a gun increases the odds you will become a domestic abuser. I'm aware of studies that show having a gun increases how lethal the violence is but not aware of any study that says if you own a gun it increases the rate of violence from that person.

As long as gun culture is deemed more important than people's lives, the slaughter will continue.

Toasted Heretic - That is basically a requirement for anything to be legal, because as soon as you say one person is an acceptable cost for xyz to be legal you are basically saying that xyz is more important than people's lives.

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The term "easy access" is exactly how people who say it want to make it sound - as if you can walk over to Walmart, the local gun store, or online, plop down some cash or credit card and a photo ID and walk out with a handgun or assault rifle.

Only someone who's actually gone thru the process of obtaining a firearm would be an accurate source of knowing how "easy" it is to obtain one. And I can tell you that there's nothing quick or easy about it.

I can tell you that the firearms I have purchased from people required me to do one thing: hand over the cash. That's pretty easy access.

Not to mention all the firearms that aren't secured in safes that are stolen on a daily basis. That's pretty easy access.

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Only someone who's actually gone thru the process of obtaining a firearm would be an accurate source of knowing how "easy" it is to obtain one. And I can tell you that there's nothing quick or easy about it.

Fair enough. My image is that it is pretty quick and easy - walk into the store and within a few days or a week you can have a gun. How long does it actually take, and what are the difficult parts?

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Fair enough. My image is that it is pretty quick and easy - walk into the store and within a few days or a week you can have a gun. How long does it actually take, and what are the difficult parts?

It depends on the state. In most cases, it takes no more than a week.

The difficult part is waiting. Beyond that, it's providing your ID and social security number.

Purchasing firearms from private parties requires handing over the cash. Ridiculously easy.

Pretty arduous, isn't it?

I own multiple firearms. That said, I am not an unreasonable idiot when it comes to firearms control laws. It's far too easy to purchase firearms in the US.

Let's not conflate purchasing firearms with access to firearms.

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How many killings in Chicago so far this year? Sorry, that’s still not news worthy, is it?

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How many killings in Chicago so far this year? Sorry, that’s still not news worthy, is it?

No, it’s not, because that means Democrats would have to deal with a serious problem in that city and Chicago hasn’t done that, the politicians don’t care have not confronted this problem for over 50 years and it hasn’t changed, it’s only gotten much worse.

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It's a disgraceful state of affairs and what is equally disgraceful is certain posters trying to reason like it's normal or something.

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I am very sure that the 20 mass shootings in 2019 is twisted to fit the articles narrative. The Wiki says there were 196 mass shooting for a total of 196 killed, and that's a mass shooting?? Since there is no clear definition of a mass shooting it's best articles stop using the term unless they define the term. Actually Large cities such as St. Louis, Chicago, Baltimore, on and on, are of more concern, because just in one of these cities. in one year, surpasses the mass shootings, gangs are far and away a bigger problem than mass shooting will ever be.

Some of these states in the US are lax on gun laws while others are so strict that they seem to go against the US Constitution, whatever the law is in any particular State, it seems to have little bearing on murders by gangs in cities.

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I am so happy to be an expat. Will never visit America ever again. But I will be sure to stay away from Anime studios here as well.

Sounded sarcastic and I was being so. Bad things happen to good people everywhere. mankind is not kind. That word needs to be erased from the English Language.

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Year to date 270 people shot and killed in Chicago and people are worried about mass shootings, and that's just one US City, most of them had absolutely nothing to do with legal gun owners.

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A killer with a gun becomes a mass killer. Take his gun away. He's still a potential killer but what weapon will he use without a gun. Knife, baseball bat, truck, bomb?

Without the guns there wouldn't be mass shootings. The two are linked.

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Yea, whatever you do, don't mention the paperwork, the background and mental health check. Don't mention that not everyone will qualify. And sorry, but saying you bought a gun privately with cash exchanging hands only - if you didn't already have a permit for such weapon, then what you did was illegal. Sure the laws vary state to state, but lots of states require a visit to the local police station for finger printing, paperwork, background check and that's just to get a long rifle card. Handguns require a separate permit all together.

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CrazyJoeAug. 1 07:45 am JSTThe country we live in has been manipulated to enrich the rich and keep the workers in their place. You're not getting healthcare nor meaningful gun control because most of our representatives don't represent the wishes of the majority, they represent their big donors who don't like unions, don't like regulation, don't like (what they call) socialism and don't really care for minorities who demand a place at the table. Profits before people, and don't forget it!

A garlic festival? A music festival? A local country/western dance bar? People are getting mowed down at schools, at work, on the streets, in stores - at church! The vast majority of the slaughter is committed by homegrown American terrorists - precisely what they are - and your homeland security won't use the term when the shooters are white.

The media calls these militia trash 'patriots' but they are terrorist trash. If you are black, you're a 'thug'. If yu're a foreigner (esp. Arabic), you're a 'terrorist'. That's American Newspeak Lesson 1 for ya.

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Purchasing firearms from private parties requires handing over the cash. Ridiculously easy.

Actually more and more states are passing laws that require a background check and transfer through a licensed gun dealer for private sales. We the law in Washington. Also, as of July 1st here, you must show proof of attending an approved gun safety course before you can buy a semi-auto rifle.

People think there is not action being taken, but new laws are being added to make it more difficult for guns to get into the wrong hands. It's just some folks want to see it happen overnight. Like whoever said above that the UN needs to come in a take them all away (What??). Back here in reality, it takes time to fix things.

Gun confiscation just isn't going to happen, but it is becoming less easy to buy a firearm than people like to think.

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