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OssanAmerica
Its not like the female escort team failed. The USSS failure was on the part of the men who checked all surroundings to ensure.they were secure..What a demented argument.
Underworld
What? I would imagine women would be excellent at this job.
Underworld
DEI is not racism.
falseflagsteve
It’s not a job for a woman. The ones we saw looked too short and out of shape, it was farcical.
Hervé L'Eisa
Have you seen the actual performance of the (significantly smaller) female agents? Bumbling to holster their weapons, crouching behind the other (male) agents, and shouting "What are we doing? Where are we going?". They were amateurs.
falseflagsteve
Herve
Youre nit allowed to say that stuff these days even though it’s true. A sad state of affairs where the west has lost the plot and the clowns make the policies.
Blacklabel
This is the problem. Gender based quotas under a new babe of DEI. Same as a certain job must be a (insert race) and (insert gender).
qualified women are just fine. But it appears there are not enough who are qualified or interested to make up 30% of this specific workforce.
wallace
It was chaos.
deanzaZZR
Height requirements and overall physical testing requirements should be gender neutral.
OssanAmerica
If the female SS agents were too small, too fat, too out of shape then they would have failed if they were male agents. In that case the blame is on the person responsible for having assembled and assigned this team. Not women agents as a whole. USSS does more than just provide protection. They investigate and pursue certain crimes such as counterfeiting currency.
dagon
When there were successful and attempted assassinations of Kennedy, Ford, Reagan were there calls for the SSS personnel to resign.
Presumably they were all male Caucasians then.
And authoritarian rightists aided by corporate mega money hadn't hit upon DEI and woke as a distraction for the white working class for how they are being exploited.
nishikat
As Crooks fired his first shots, one of the counter-snipers on the northernmost team flinched, he said, took his eye away from the scope, and reset his position
(News source)
Countersniper was a man. Sorry, no affirmative action here Trump people. Things just screwed up like with 9/11 attacks. By the way, did the Trump campaign bother to even pay for th needed local security detail (which he generally doesn't). Then it's Trump's fault for stiffing (as he always does) these people. No one works for free
itsonlyrocknroll
To protect Presidents politicians, public figures, the most qualified people, the most experienced, the most able to assess the risks, dangers, on the ground in real time.
"There should not be any women in the Secret Service. These are supposed to be the very best, and none of the very best at this job are women," right-wing activist Matt Walsh wrote on X, in one typical post.
To suggest or imply that women should be withdrawn as Secret Service protection officers simply because of a rather unfounded assumption that Women are simply "not up to the job" is puerile, rather childish.
All comes down to selection process. the women secret service personal chosen to protect Donald Trump saved his life, were willing sacrifice there own wellbeing.
First woman completes Navy special warfare training
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/first-woman-completes-navy-special-warfare-training-n1274125
* *DaDude
Some people just look at who is the best person for the job no matter what they look like. You only look at skin color and if they are white, they should be given no chance.
Chuck
Can anybody post a link to a photo of short, out-of-shape female SS agents at this event?
GuruMick
Female agents in this job since the early 1970's .
US wants to refight and re prosecute all things that women would have thought were settled.
Abortion rights another new culture war battle ground.
Bad Haircut
DEI or not, the entire thing was a setup designed to take out the establishment's biggest threat. More evidence keeps emerging, such as security staff finding a rangefinder in Crooks' possession well before the event started and failing to raise an alarm about it, the cops failing to secure the roof, attendees pointing out several minutes before the shooting that they could see Crooks moving into position... DEI in this case pales into insignificance compared to the Secret Service's and the cops' farcical security.
Norm
The fist-pump photo shows TFG surrounded by at least four agents, and three of them appear to be white dudes.
The brave woman covering TFG does appear to be a little on the wide side in this photo, but she’s also the one putting herself directly in front of him despite possible danger. A brave, selfless action.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Female agents can take a bullet just as well as male ones. Don't see what the issue is.
GuruMick
If this was a "set up designed to take out the establishment biggest threat " why choose a short sighted 20 year old with no military experience.
And Trump IS THE ESTABLISHMENT
Wealth, uses lawfare to stop paying his bills, property portfolio, world businessman, ....is not like he's some downtrodden average Joe at the meat packing factory.
Hervé L'Eisa
Perhaps the Bidens' and Harris' USSS teams should be all/predominantly female agents. Same with Schumer's and Schiff's.
itsonlyrocknroll
A thorough investigating into perceived failures, the processing of intelligence, of management, prior to the political rally need to be undertaken and report.
If guidelines have to be reviewed, the recruitment procedure need fundamental overhaul, then the sooner the better.
To openly/harshly proportion blame without evidence, without a clear knowledge of the crucial circumstances that led to the shooter assassination attempt is grossly premature and reckless.
The toxicity surrounding identity/cultural/racial political poisonous need to destroy communities, divide the values we all genuinely believe in, is being hijacked by a dishonest illiberal minority intent on a belligerent agenda of division, to furnish antagonism bitterness rancour.
dagon
And some people use DEI and woke as an excuse for dysfunction internally and externally.
Again, what happened to the Secret Service agents assigned to Kennedy, Ford, Reagan?
How were the lapses in security explained?
But a certain segment of society has been given the punching bag of woke DEI.
bass4funk
You think?
How about Lincoln and Roosevelt?
There are tons of books to find out a multitude of reasons why
Most of the nation.
Hawk
Great question. Especially one who wasn't allowed to join his school's rifle club because he was an incredibly poor shot.
This was a competency failure, pure and simple.
zibala
Those people on the right have the right to criticize.
bass4funk
Not sure what that has to do with guarding the President
How about hiring 1. Taller women? A woman who's 5'1 can hardly protect and shield a man who is 6'3. 2. Hire people that are not afraid of taking a bullet because that is after all in the job description, you are supposed to take a bullet for the President and not panic or run away.
Ken
I'm not surprised they found a different excuse to put the blame on as well. Trump is alive so they did their job of protecting him. Can't imagine what it's like disrespecting and thinking so lowly of women when you have mother, sister, wife or daughter. It really is back in the 50s again
Quo Primum
The agents who were actually up there on stage with Trump -- all of them -- did a very good job of protecting him once the shots rang out.
The issue here isn't that there were one or two female agents protecting Trump.
The issue here is that this shooting wasn't prevented in the first place.
It was easily the most preventable assassination attempt in U.S. history. And the Secret Service, plus the state police, dropped the ball on multiple levels.
It was a disgustingly glaring level of incompetence that these two agencies are actually incapable of -- which leads to the undeniably logical conclusion that someone up the chain of command ALLOWED this to happen.
So, female agents aren't the issue here.
BeerDeliveryGuy
The article completely omits the fact that the agent in question ducked behind Trump, using him and other agents as a shield rather than protecting him, fumbled while drawing, holstering and handling weapons, and was completely clueless as how to react.
Male or Female, I wouldn’t trust an agent of that caliber to guard the splash mountain queue at Disneyland.
Quo Primum
Such a bad dropping of the ball, that its only explanation is that it was on purpose.
zibala
But they, along with their boss Kimberly Cheatle -- only the second-ever woman director of the federal agency tasked with protecting presidents current, former and would-be -- are now caught in the intense scrutiny over the nearly catastrophic attack.
The intense scrutiny should end as soon as Cheatle has the decency to resign.
BeerDeliveryGuy
Other female agents did react professionally and bravely, but having an SS agent use the protectee as a human shield and fumble with a pistol is not a good look, and indicative of failures in the training and screening process.
Blacklabel
ummm no. Someone was able to fire 8 shots and missed killing Trump only because he turned his head. No one protected Trump nor the man who was killed.
One of the females actually hid behind everyone and then couldn’t even draw or holster a weapon.
BeerDeliveryGuy
Like I said earlier, this is not about Male or Female.
It’s about, “maybe it is NOT a good idea or good PR for the agency to have an agent use the protectee as a human shield.”
FizzBit
More useless dividing stories from the MSM.
From a couple of nobodies posting on twitter.
Bad Haircut
You do realise MK Ultra was a real program, don't you? To believe it was shut down after it was brought to light is just naive, especially given the lengths to which some government agencies will go to spy on their citizens and eliminate threats, then lie in cover-ups when things go wrong. Too many things ore off in this case to take the lone gunman scenario at face value.
And if Trump IS THE ESTABLISHMENT, why are they doing everything they can - even assassination as things are shaping up as - to stop him running for office again?
Fundamentally, it's not who Trump is as a man but what he represents: the chance for Americans to cast off a government-bureaucracy-financial-etc complex that has got way out control. Trump is far from perfect, but he is a symbol of hope for millions. If he's taken out, things will get very dark indeed.
bass4funk
No need, we have the videos to see what flunkies they were
itsonlyrocknroll
At RNC Day 3, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, insisted that "not an assassins bullet could stop him, God almighty intervened because America is one nation, and he is not finished with President Trump.
This rhetoric is beyond rational logic, of religious fervor, of well reasoned political judgement.
It is irrational inexpedient gibberish.
Joe Biden would best take note.
The unquestionable courage of a Secret Service duty regardless of gender saved the day, and Donald Trump life not divine intervention.
Norm
I’d love to see video of that. Anywhere, of course, than on TikTok or Twitter.
Ken
SS agents aren't cyborgs capable of doing the impossible. They aren't protection for everyone because if some bystander got stabbed at an event like that their number 1 priority is getting their client out of there, everything else comes second. They didn't have the means to kill the sniper before he got at least one kill but if they could have they would have seeing how dangerous a sniper can be. The only fail was the SS agents that did not report what they found out in the beginning
JJE
Fact is DJT, when he appeared at the RNC Day 1, had what looked to be a full compliment of male agents who matched or exceeded his height.
https://x.com/MailOnline/status/1813232767460909153
Chabbawanga
Not sure if it has anything to do with gender, but the female security officer fumbling to holster her sidearm was comical. She certainly shouldn't have been part of the immediate security team.
finally rich
*U.S. right criticizes Secret Service for using cowering/short/incompetent agents that can't holster a gun to protect Trump.*
Fixed for you
Antiquesaving
I have watched multiple videos of news pointing out the problem with the females on Trump's team that day.
The majority point out size and most add in that if a man was as short in comparison to the protectee then they also shouldn't be on the team in the same position.
Place them on the crowd or some place else, but what is the point of placing a nan or a woman that the protectee stands up and their head is full exposed.
Now for the physical difference.
If a male applicant to the Secret service is 170 cm tall and s female is also 170 cm do they both have to pass the same physical training?
The answer is NO!
The women are held to a lower physical standard.
From the secret service website.
The mile run.
A woman can get an score of "Excellent or very good" but a man running the same time ould probably fail with "poor or very poor"
Chin-ups the difference is worse.
Men age cat 20s: excellente: 11 +, Very poor: 4
Female age cat:20s excellente: 4, Very good: 3
This repeats in a similar way for push-ups, sit-ups etc...
So basically even if a man and a woman agent are the same size the women are NOT at the same level physically as the men, and that is where The DEI agenda is flawed.
Those in charge say the women are as good as the men blah blah blah but according the the Secret service training they are not at the same level.
This is the difference between equal (equality) and "Equity" the former means they all earned their position in the same way, the later means corners were cut for one to make it in!
dagon
MAGA is faith based and counterfactual and rejects logic.
Trump is not a maverick running against the system.
Look at the facts.
A billionaire who has benefited massively from the system of financialized capital as well as government subsidies and failed forward despite many business failures.
Who increased the intrusiveness and untouchability of militarized police.
Who gave the corporatocracy everything it wanted in terms of decreased regulation and labor rights as well as massive tax breaks while returning little to workers.
MAGA is living in an alternate reality, someplace in the multiverse but they are trying for a massive reality incursion.
Toblerone
A conspiracy? I bet it goes straight to the top!
It can happen.
If this was a "set up designed to take out the establishment biggest threat " why choose a short sighted 20 year old with no military experience.
He was the perfect patsy, with that profile. It’s got you ridiculing the very idea.
It was a disgustingly glaring level of incompetence that these two agencies are actually incapable of -- which leads to the undeniably logical conclusion that someone up the chain of command ALLOWED this to happen.
Agreed.
RichardPearce
What's telling is that they freak out about the women being shorter than Trump, but don't freak out about the guys who are too thin to cover his not unsubstantial girth.
Jimizo
A very obvious question which needs answering.
Blindingly obvious.
Maybe answer it with another conspiracy theory regarding the information known about the shooter?
Anyway, I’m sure this question will be dealt with and we can receive more enlightenment from our more perceptive contributors.
Any handle will do.
Jimizo
They are in a bit of a frenzy to ‘influence’ but that is pure incompetence.
Calmer heads needed for this kind of ‘work’.
bass4funk
Yeah, liberals continue to say that nonsense. Lol
He is absolutely running against the establishment that’s why they hate him so viscerally.
Look at the facts.
Which once agains shows how great the Capitalist system is.
Uhhh, Democrats, IRS 2012 and let’s not forget, since that time the Dems have weaponized the Justice Department as well and going after their political opponents.
Trump, thank God!
And that is a good thing, we are starting to see them chisel away at the Dems blue wall and their hold on our Democracy and to trample the crap out of it.
Gene Hennigh
Isn't there anything the right likes since before women got the vote? Anything? Just something little. Women race car drivers? No, that's too much. Women spies? Well, no, that would never work. I'm trying to think of anything they might like. There's nothing in science. Can someone help me -- you guys on the right? What if -- we're just playing what if now, so don't get mad -- someone who got in through DEI was the best person? I know, that's impossible, but what if? Just saying what if. Women, I guess, should go back in the kitchen and be happy with that. The women there at the assassination attempt didn't seem to me to have exasperated things. Oh, never mind. Let's just go back to 1910 and everyone will be happy.
Underworld
Antiquesaving
Trump is allowed to crouch, which makes this a moot point.
Toblerone
Thanks Gene Hennigh and your pals. A nice reminder of why I quit the left.
wallace
Why did Thomas Matthew Crooks, the shooter, opt for the bullet over the ballot?
Antiquesaving
Let's see 3 thin agents (male or female) all tall can they cover at least a full side of Trump?
The answer is probably Yes.
Now 3 short agents (again male or female) can the cover at least a full side of Trump?
The answer is probably No unless they can stand on top of each other!
The question is are Female agents as qualified as the males?
The answer in most categories is yes with the exception of one, physical ability.
This is not a guess it is a fact.
A short male is required to pass the same physical standards as a tall male but a female of any size is only required to pass what in most cases is a poor or very poor performance by the males.
Don't take my word for it, here is the Secret service's own website.
https://www.secretservice.gov/careers/technical-law-enforcement/fitness-standards
Yrral
Herve,these women agent probably could shoot any man dead , without blinking an eyelash
wallace
More than 60 minutes passed from the time Thomas Crooks became a person of interest to the time he took his shots at Trump.
Antiquesaving
Ever tried moving fast in a crouch position?
What if the injury had made the protectee unable to properly move on his own? Could the physically weaker females carry him?
Again I ask, if they are equal then why a different level of physical qualification?
If a short or tall man in his 20s is required to do 4 chin-ups to get a "Very poor" score why is it a short or tall woman is only required to do 4 chin-ups to get excellent?
The whole argument that women are as capable is a moot point when even the physical evaluation clearly have lower standards for women.
Antiquesaving
I love the compensating to try and ignore facts by what seems a majority here!
A simple question and if you want to down vote, than have the guts to say why or at least answer the questions.
Are female agents held to the same standard physically as males?
If not then why?
Why would a small male be held to higher standards than a similar size female?
You cannot have it both ways, you cannot say the female agents are just as good as the men, but then lower the standards for the women!
Speed
Well, it didn't help that Trump himself kept standing upright, climbing over and popping his head over the agents's shoulders so he could do his photo op fist pump into the air.
He should've stayed crouched down while moving off the stage and kept himself out of sight.
Ken
Don't forget his shoes
Antiquesaving
Crickets on why the female standards are lower.
Interesting!
Underworld
Antiquesaving
I think the answer is quite obvious, that males are generally taller and stronger than females. Police recruitment have had similar differing requirements for years.
The question you are not asking is why do they have such criteria? The reason is that it represents a level of fitness adjusted for gender.
Does being judged to a slightly lower level, mean that females can't do their job? No.
And, of course, having female police officers is a good thing because they are generally better at some things compared to their male counterparts.
TokyoLiving
Typical far right fascist misogynistic mentality.
Bad Haircut
You left-wingers can laugh all you want, but while you're doing that you're missing the bleeding obvious about this event. But that's just par for the course.
ulysses
What the MAGA idiots don’t know is that donald specifically asked for female agents!!!!
Raw Beer
The problem is not the presence of women in the SS, it's that the ones there on that day are too short and at least one is incompetent, and they probably would not have been considered acceptable if they were male.
Oh, you're assuming he's the only shooter...
wallace
Antiquesaving
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starpunk
Given tRumpy's attitudes towards women, it's a wonder any woman would even take up with protecting somebody like him. Besides, he always sasses off to them, 'too this, too that, "not my kind", blah blah'.
Of course he also had those Trump Girls at his 2016 rallies, which was sick and not fitting for a democracy. And now it appears he might want a phalanx of loyal women to protect his rotten ass, just like the vile Gaddafy of Libya did.
Either way, once again his cult is trying to blame somebody or some group of people to take the rap. Always somebody else's fault. While I'm not advocating or supporting the assassination attempt, with Trumpster's violent hateful rhetoric and his advocation and direct promotion of violence, this is the result of it all and it solves nothing. If there's any particular person(s) to blame it's himself because of his attitude and demeanor.
Underworld
Raw Beer
Which had no bearing on the outcome of the attack.
What did have an impact on the outcome, was when they were assessing the site to start with.
Antiquesaving
Have you ever worked in a physical job that deals in life and death situation and requires Physical ability?
Well I have, I was in search and rescue, and I was physically small, not height but skinny and not built.
I was required to pass the same levels as the other men.
But barely passed, I was however great for tight spaces, but still the other men often were not happy being partnered with me
But the women had far lower standards and when you are trying to lift an injured person and your partner is incapable of doing so, guess what? You end up not only not being able to help but the person that needs to compensate for the lack of physical capability of the other often ends up injured.
I experienced this myself and my back never recovered!
If a man of x height needs to pass xyx then the female needs to do the same.
This is not a desk job.
There are excellent women out there that can easily pass the men's criteria, the problem is not enough to fulfill the arbitrary quotas set by the activists.
Smaller men like myself in search and rescue were placed in special units for simple runs and specialty work, (tight spaces, wells, caves, collapsed buildings,) but not so with the small women because they would complain and use "discrimination" as a weapon to do what I and other physically more capable were not called on to do!
If you are ever in a situation where the person sent to help you cannot move you, then you will be asking "why can't this person physically help me?"
wallace
FBI warns of possible copycat, retaliatory attacks after attempted Trump assassination
“We cannot rule out the possibility that some DVEs or other actors may attempt follow-on or retaliatory acts of violence in response to this assassination attempt,” the FBI and DHS said in a joint bulletin, using an acronym for “Domestic Violent Extremism.”
https://www.fox16.com/news/national-news/fbi-warns-of-possible-copycat-retaliatory-attacks-after-attempted-trump-assassination/
Antiquesaving
Noticed you and the rest avoid any actual answers!
I guess when you can't explain logically, well only choice is to try and make fun of the one asking.
No answer grasshopper?
njca4
Bulletproof glass would have solved this problem
bass4funk
Seems pretty good when you look at the positions of power they were put in.
You don’t get to decide that when you sign up for SS, your job is to protect and give your life, regardless whether you like or hate the person you’re protecting.
They all do, nothing new
Ok, that’s one persons opinion, anyone else?
That’s the left doing this, the argument is, are these women capable of doing the job? So if you are afraid of taking a bullet, don’t apply, and yes, there should be a certain height requirement, a person that is 5’1 cannot shield a person that’s 6’3 not going to ever happen.
Rightfully so, Cheatle should have know better and she absolutely should resign.
Well, when it is, it is.
Wait! Biden said he wants Trump in the crosshairs, what does that mean? How would you define that especially to someone that’s unhinged?
If you think like that then you should condemn the Dems and all the vile language they use to define Trump or his supporters, all of it!
wallace
Antiquesaving
I only noticed your comments after the mention of "crickets." I need clarification on that.
The SS will have to decide if any agents, male and female failed in their duties that day. I'm not in a position to make that decision.
lincolnman
It's almost as if the Repubs sit around and think; "What can we do to insult and degrade women today"....
They already have proved they want to restrict women's medical freedom and treat them as second-class citizens...
Now they openly say they are inferior to men and "can't handle high-pressure situations"...
Just the kind of thing suburban, educated women want to hear...how "inferior" they are...
Keep the insults coming Repubs - you're guaranteeing a Blue Wave in Nov...
Quo Primum
I don't think most people on 'the right' are complaining about female Secret Service agents.
The far bigger complaint is that this assassination attempt was allowed to happen at all.
A 20-year-old nursing-home kitchen worker did not suddenly morph into Ethan Hunt the Ninja, outfoxing and eluding Secret Service agents and PA state police to stealthily position himself to assassinate a presidential candidate/former president.
Nobody should have been allowed on that rooftop at all.
From almost the very moment he first arrived in the vicinity of Trump's rally, he was on the security force's radar. He was pegged as a 'subject of concern.' They had their suspicions about him from the beginning.
And they did nothing. They didn't detain him. They didn't get Trump off the stage and delay the start of the rally. They didn't do any of the things that comprise Security Detail 101.
And the shooter was spotted on the roof by bystanders who practically begged the security forces to act against him -- which they didn't for nearly 3 full minutes, and only after he'd fired at Trump.
This was allowed to happen by somebody in the chain of command. No way this was just 'incompetence.'
It makes sense. If Trump is just like Hitler, as the left so often claim, then why wouldn't it be morally permissible (even morally righteous) to assassinate him?
Nobody would've morally objected to an assassination of Hitler. If anybody had pulled that off, he/she would be regarded as a hero today.
That's why incessantly and rabidly labeling someone as 'Hitler' simply because they don't like his politics is dangerous. It's incendiary rhetoric that almost got Trump killed -- which, apparently, is what someone making the security decisions wanted.
Somebody left the metaphorical door open for Crooks to take a shot at Trump. No way this was anything else.
Raw Beer
Yes, I agree.
But both support the idea that those in charge were either incompetent, or intentionally wanted to leave Trump poorly protected, or both.
zibala
Trump saved himself.
His adroitness, dexterity, quick thinking, did what no secret service agent did.
And then when he stood up and showed America he was stronger than ever--a true American hero.
100% true.
Ken
America is not Russia, even if Biden did wish it happened he cannot agree to it or show it otherwise it makes America as a whole look very badly to the citizens and to other countries
lincolnman
Not from jail...
Now that was a gut-buster - this 78 year old, demented, obese tub of orange lard used his cat-quick reflexes to dodge an assault rifle bullet coming at him at 3,000 feet per second....ROFL..
MAGA-world's version of a Fractured Fairy Tale...as funny as the real ones...
Antiquesaving
You are however in a position to answer as to why or should it be acceptable that women doing the same physically demanding job be permitted to have lower standards than the men including smaller men.
Understand this people, a 165 cm man needs to pass higher standards than a 175 cm woman.
Here are 2 questions.
Had Trump or Biden in another situation, been fully unconscious, could 2 of the men in the video lift them?
Sane question, same situation: could the 2 women in the videos lift either of these two Men? (Trump or Biden)
I will let those that don't know.
Lifting an unconscious person (basically limp) is far more difficult than a conscious person (they tend to stiffen up making lifting easier)
So remember the 2 questions are about unconscious Trump or Biden.
Bob Fosse
Biden yes. 45 no way.
Do you think they are similar weight?
餓死鬼
He’s evolved beyond that. I heard he just held out his hand towards the incoming bullets and said, “No.”
That might have been dangerous behavior for a lesser being without complete knowledge of the situation (e.g. number and status of shooters). But, since Mr. Trump is the One...
Raw Beer
Biden cannot decide anything. But whoever is in control clearly does not want Trump to become President again.
Underworld
zibala
He ducked under the lectern. I don't think that requires much adroitness, dexterity, or quick thinking when you are being shot at.
He ducked under the lectern. I don't think that makes him a hero.
Entuojo
Breaking news .!. .!.
zibala
Just look at the lead picture to this article.
One of the most iconic photos in history.
Now think of all the lies told by the left, and once again, look t that photo.
Defiant, strong, courageous.
Incredible example of leadership.
Underworld
Antiquesaving
One, 99.99% of the time it's not that physically demanding, and when it is the requirements for both females and males is adequate.
Two, having women increases the effectiveness of the SS (as it does with police, armed services, etc.).
funkymofo
The right needs to do something about its domestic terrorism problem.
Antiquesaving
Nice try at avoiding!
Trump is 6 ft 3 in at 215 pounds.
Biden is 6ft 4 in at 180 pounds.
You are going to claim the 35 pound (15kg) is that big a deal?
Oh right it is, because it is about the difference in percentage that the men (short, tall, big, small( are required to be physically more capable than the women.
Thank you actually proved my point, the women based on present criteria cannot do the same jobs!
Bob Fosse
I did no such thing. You made a silly comparison. I pointed it out.
wallace
Antiquesaving
I have no interest in that. The decision to employ Secret Service agents is not within my jurisdiction.
Antiquesaving
Nice try at again deflection!
Did those women cover his head? Yes or no?
Could they have lifted him if he was unable to move? Yes or no?
Did the men cover His head on their sides? Yes or no?
Could those men lift him if he was unconscious? Yes or no?
If all the answers to both are not yes then they shouldn't be there.
Your argument is that 99% isn't physical is a deflection.
Ok lets say that is so. Then we don't let the Small understandared women do these jobs, right?
No, they will have a fit call it discrimination.
We know this because firefighters, Secret service, Police even the military had to all lower their standards because women complained there weren't enough women in these jobs.
Tell me again how physical ability isn't important!
Underworld
Antiquesaving
Physical ability is important, and women are up to the task.
What is more important is a site inspection and measures taken before the event, which was lacking in this case.