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U.S. says foreign students whose classes move online cannot stay

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"U.S. says foreign students whose classes move online cannot stay"

You stay classy, America.

11 ( +14 / -3 )

This is just well, insane. If it’s an appeal to a base that wants to see foreigners set upon, and young paying student ones at that, then whoever came up with this one needs a slap.

17 ( +19 / -2 )

Stupid president, stupid policy.

20 ( +22 / -2 )

Foreign students aren't only paying really expensive foreign tuition fees, but also paid for their visa in order to experience living and learning in a foreign country which is priceless.

Talk about unnecessarily hitting the vulnerable. What a despicable administration this is.

17 ( +19 / -2 )

Fascist America at it again.

10 ( +16 / -6 )

Like I said before, America is NOT a country it once was. It is very unfortunate that all those young people got caught in Trump's political game and that they do not have good universities in their home countries!

14 ( +16 / -2 )

Just when I think I couldn't be more embarrassed to be American...

19 ( +21 / -2 )

More than likely, many colleges will arrange things do that each foreign student can “attend” at least one course in a classroom setting.

The US used to do it’s best to attract the best and the brightest from the world.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Trump the bully now picking on the kids who contributed $45 billion in 2018.

11 ( +13 / -2 )

Trump is trying to bully universities to fully reopen (which is insane), and is using international students as pawns in his little games. What a disgusting administration. Truly deplorable.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

I could understand putting things on hold for NEW students, but those already in country studying.....WTF!!!

Maybe the US should CLOSE ALL universities & make them all online ""assuming"" that is possible.....this admin just keeps getting dumber & dumber, there is NO bottom for trump & his ilk, bottomless!!!

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Some Japanese universities viewed Brexit and Trump's election as a good chance to improve their competitiveness, since the xenophobia on display might change the minds of some international students who previously would have gone there in favor of Japan.

It didn't really materialize that way since the lure of a degree from a top US or UK university was still high. But now with stuff like this the US especially seems intent on destroying its attractiveness to international students I kind of wonder if Japanese universities might benefit. Actually even without this, the sheer disaster unfolding there is itself probably dissuading a lot of international students.

America has lost most of its appeal to the rest of the world. It might get some of it back, but I think some of it is gone forever.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Xenophobia is the founding stone of fascism.

The GOP will be forever tarred by trump!

7 ( +9 / -2 )

Bah the GOP was supposed to die in 2016. The Orange freak-show reanimated it like a cheesy 80's horror film and it became the insane zombie party. Surely it will implode definitely in November...

2 ( +4 / -2 )

definitively whoops

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Many colleges and universities will be online in the fall, evidently without a lot of their students, so they will take a huge financial hit. Many teachers, adjuncts with no job security, will be out of work, and in small college towns, even more businesses will close. I hope we can make America great again by getting this senile old man out of office.

7 ( +9 / -2 )

Tomorrow is Trump going to announce the legendary Trump University (where you can get an MA or PhD in bs!) is reopening for in-person instruction?

6 ( +8 / -2 )

The idiot in the WH still trying to shore up his racist base because his numbers for support are plunging.

He will say and do anything at this point to get re-elected. What should we expect from the morally corrupt?

Just like zichi said, the idiot in the WH just took 42 million annually out of an economy already failing!

trump supporters, are you tired of winning yet?

6 ( +8 / -2 )

On most university rankings, the US still has 7-8 of the top universities in the world. This may mean that universities completely online will alter their admissions which might make it easier for people to be admitted into some of the more popular schools. So, some schools will be fine.

However, the money that immigrants spend and contribute to the community will hurt and will be missed.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

The man-child is just bitter that the Ivy League Trump University is no longer around to fleece unwitting students.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Just like zichi said, the idiot in the WH just took 42 million annually out of an economy already failing!

45 BILLION fella!

What is the reasoning behind this decision? It seems to benefit nobody and inconvenience everyone. I realise that Trump is a monumentally stupid person, but there must be a reason for it other than him just hating the entire world.

7 ( +9 / -2 )

Those students are not free-loading - they're paying to be there

8 ( +10 / -2 )

"If not, they may face immigration consequences including, but not limited to, the initiation of removal proceedings."

The students are victims of COVID19. The school's policy is beyond their control. Once they are removed from the US by renmoval proceedings they will not be elligible for another visa for years.

The only good thing is that it will put a major dent in the Chinese Sea Turtles. Other than that, it hurts everybody else from every other country. But this Trump administration has never been able to clearly separate friends and enemies so I guess it's par for the course.

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“Just when I think I couldn't be more embarrassed to be American.”

Too right, brother. We used to be THE destination for foreign students. Now we tell them to GTFO. I couldn’t be more embarrassed.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Trump has a natural animosity to smart people because he isn't. Plus he is a white suprematist with a small dongle. So this is all par for the course.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

This has got Stephen Miller written all over it. Not that Trump would disagree.

Sickening.

What would be the purpose of doing this other than to stir up the xenophobic and racist base?

7 ( +9 / -2 )

How the hate and cruelty speech/policy from a fascist xenophobic clown in chief can ruin a country..

The worst are his blind sheeps fanatics..

The world defeat them in 1945

We can do it again in November 3 !!

6 ( +8 / -2 )

It is not US says, it is POTUS says.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

WilliB

Common sense. You figure you get a visa for Japan if you study Japanese online?

But out orangeguy-bad crowd will chime in with their usual rants, what else is new.

LOL! Bad logic! If I am living in Japan taking Japanese classes then the pandemic happens, and my face-to-face courses are now online, but the J-government says I have to leave.

Now I have to forfeit all the money I spent initially setting up my new life in the country including my deposit for rent and other associated costs. Not to mention all the money I spend at the local Japanese businesses.

Not common sense at all. But the idiot in the WH has never been known for common sense.

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"The cruelty of this White House knows no bounds," tweeted Senator Bernie Sanders. "Foreign students are being threatened with a choice: risk your life going to class-in person or get deported."

The Left’s fake outrage is so weird. It’s not like the students are getting kicked out of school. The corona virus cannot infect anyone over the Internet - it’s safe. Students can still learn all about how bad America is online.

Do Progressives really think foreign countries are so horrible that they don’t think foreign students can learn from back home? There is an education revolution going on and Progressives want to stop people from learning online. It’s backwards.

-16 ( +2 / -18 )

Some students' countries back home are poor countries with not good internet, not good libraries nearby (especially advanced reference books), maybe even hard to survive just day-to-day

Not only is that environment make it difficult to learn and keep up with the class, but they're also at a disadvantage compared to their classmates who have a better country and have access to better resources.

The learning environments are not equal, and that's just not fair when everybody in the same class are graded in the same curve

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Do Progressives really think foreign countries are so horrible that they don’t think foreign students can learn from back home? There is an education revolution going on and Progressives want to stop people from learning online. It’s backwards.

Cold, unbending extremist right-wing mentality.

This is America.

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The Left’s fake outrage is so weird. It’s not like the students are getting kicked out of school. The corona virus cannot infect anyone over the Internet - it’s safe. 

You misread the article. Students are being sent home if they have their classes online... right away. Colleges may return to face to face classes to avoid losing students, but will not be able to do it safely because this shift is sudden. Nothing about this is safe, smart, or financially intelligent.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

When foreigners attend our great colleges & want to stay in the U.S., they should not be thrown out of our country.

I know black and bass will definitely agree with me in this one.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Most universities disagree with this policy from what I read. If this awful directive goes through then universities should bypass it by having one class a semester in an actual classroom for all its foreign students. (And not take attendance.)

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"Nonimmigrant F-1 and M-1 students attending schools operating entirely online may not take a full online course load and remain in the United States," U.S .Immigration and Custom Enforcement said in a statement.

"Active students currently in the United States enrolled in such programs must depart the country or take other measures, such as transferring to a school with in-person instruction to remain in lawful status," ICE said. "If not, they may face immigration consequences including, but not limited to, the initiation of removal proceedings."

Nonimmigrant F-1 and M-1 students have the option of transferring to a school with in-person instruction. Problem solved.

If F-1 and M-1 students can take online courses, there is no mandatory reason for F-1 and M-1 to actually reside in the U.S.A..

F-1 and M-1 are federal immigrant classifications. If the usual suspects, and foreigners, do not like the U.S. immigration policy, they will have to contact their elected representatives in the U.S. Congress, and demand laws that change U.S. national immigration policy. Except that they do not have elected representatives in the U.S. Congress.

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