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Russia has used North Korean ballistic missiles in Ukraine and is seeking Iranian missiles, U.S. says

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Russian forces fired at least one of those ballistic missiles into Ukraine on Dec. 30 and it landed in an open field in the Zaporizhzhia region, he said.

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Did he provide any evidence?

From the article and images, it appears no. None. Zero. He can't even describe the alleged missile type - what a sham.

This is the same guy that cried for people in Ukraine but turned the other cheek to the slaughter he is enabling in Gaza. Nothing but a hypocrite and a professional liar.

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Missile remains, forensic evidence LACK OF ACCURACY, that kind of thing.

Doesn’t look so good for the war criminal from Moscow to be dependent on a 4th rate arms. America, does it?

No wonder you deflect.

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From the article and images, it appears no. None. Zero. He can't even describe the alleged missile type - what a sham.

South Korea and Estonia have been talking about DPRK arms transfers to Russia for a while now. There is such a thing as satellite imagery that allows nations to track such weapons as they are moved. stored and employed in combat.

https://www.38north.org/2023/11/russia-and-north-korea-a-growing-strategic-partnership/

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DPRK has been a long term supplier of ballistic missiles to Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis.

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Corrected:

Doesn’t look so good for the war criminal from Moscow to be dependent on a 4th rate arms DEALER, does it?

Apologies and damn you fat thumbs and autocorrect.

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More evidence of North Korean Arms in Russian state television and Russian social media.

https://www.nknews.org/2024/01/russian-media-provides-clearest-evidence-to-date-of-north-korean-arms-in-ukraine/

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/ukraine-11172023175355.html

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The Security Council presentation will just be used to embarrass Russia, again. Nothing useful will happen. Russia has a veto.

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Ukraine has been caught using NK supplied weaponry.

But this seems to be ignored.

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DORK missiles: all the quality and reliability you’ve come expect from DORK ammo at a higher price!

More ‘decoys’ incoming!

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Ukraine has been caught using NK supplied weaponry.

Russian propaganda straight from RT

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Kyiv regime uses weapons from US and Europe... Same thing..

This is why it's called war..

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JJE

Ukraine has been caught using NK supplied weaponry.

Yes:

Ukrainian soldiers were observed using North Korean rockets that they said were seized by a "friendly" country before being delivered to Ukraine, the Financial Times reported on Saturday.

North Korea's loss is Ukraine's gain.

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Thuban

So it's a war of North Korean/Iranian weapons vs. US/NATO weapons.

North Korea and Iran seem to have better weapons because their side is winning

Their side? The North Korean and Iranian missiles and drones are fired at civilian targets, so that can't be the reason.

Also, Russia isn't winning this war. They have already lost. It's just a matter of how many casualties they can be comfortable with.

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It’s 2024 and we still hearing this “Russia is losing” misinformation?

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Ok, time for the facts. I went and watched Kirby's press conference - surprisingly short. Several things:

1) he had a visual display board that has two legacy photos of an alleged NK TEL firing a missile. It also features a simple map of Russia-Ukraine with almost no names, a simplistic "launch" arrow that looks to be near the only landmark - an unlabelled River Don, near an unmarked city of Voronezh.

2) he also alleged that not just missiles, but the Transporter Erector Launcher (TEL) systems were provided to Russia, and that they have been launched on more than one day this year (but there is of the comic book "launch" arrow).

3) The above display board provided no actual information and looks amateurish - as was the press conference as a whole.

4) The two stock photos appear to be the KN-23 and launcher.

5) nothing really makes sense; Russia has the Iskander system.

Here is an image of the display board:

https://www.cp24.com/world/russia-has-used-north-korean-ballistic-missiles-in-ukraine-and-is-seeking-iranian-missiles-u-s-says-1.6711601

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Blacklabel

It’s 2024 and we still hearing this “Russia is losing” misinformation?

No. Russia has lost. And it's not misinformation. Putin hasn't realised any of his war aims and now is just losing troops and money.

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North Korea and Iran seem to have better weapons because their side is winning

Im not sure which end of that hypothesis is more lol.

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It’s 2024 and we still hearing this “Russia is losing” misinformation?

Attained a single one of their Strategic Goals yet? No?

They're losing.

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La vie douce

No. Russia has lost. And it's not misinformation. Putin hasn't realised any of his war aims and now is just losing troops and money.

Absolutely, Russia seems on its knees . The UAF are advancing 500 meters per day as per president Zelensky's orders. The direction might be slightly wrong, but still. Those gamechanger weapons really seem to have made all the difference to the counter offensive. The evidence is out there.

You are looking at the wrong things. You need to look at the big picture.

Why do you think Putin invaded? He wants regime change in Kyiv, under a puppet that he controls. He wants a corridor all the way to Transnistria, including Odesa, so as to cut off the Black Sea and threaten Moldova. He wants Ukraine to be demilitarised. He wants NATO destabilised.

None of these aims have been realised. Russia has lost.

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La vie douce

" They're losing."

Yes indeed. Russia appears to be near total collapse. It is no wonder too as they have been running out of missiles since 18 months ago, their air force and navy are non existent either blown to bits or rusting on the sea floor, their convict rabble on the ground with their shovels never stood a chance against the superior gamechanger weapons supplied by the non involved partners. The rabble were crushed by the lightning speed of the counter offensive and to top it all off the friendless Russian economy is near total collapse and the long dead Putin doubles are all busy trying to not fall out the windows. As expected your expert predictions have been proven uncannily accurate and aged exceedingly well. :)

OK, which of Putin's war aims has Russia achieved? Let me know.

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Politics aside the North Korean military is happy to launch some of these suckers and see how well they perform. Analysis will be used to improve current stock in North Korea.

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La vie douce

Nobody claimed that Putin has achieved his "big picture" geopolitical aims yet. Whether he achieves them or not and to what extent remains to be seen, nobody knows. What is known by looking at the military reality on the ground at the moment is that Russia is not loosing.

Not achieving war aims is the definition of losing. Otherwise, what are the doing their? And do you think they will take Odesa? Outin has recently said that is one of his aims, yet, they look far from this outcome.

Most would agree it is either slightly advancing or at the very least holding the territory it captured. As I stated previously in my opinion when ceasefire eventually happens it is likely to be pretty much along the lines as they are now.

If that happens, then Russia has achieved none of its war aims and has lost.

Russia will likely get to keep the Russian speaking areas, Ukraine the rest. This may be disliked by many but it is the most likely outcome.

I don't think we have any idea of likely outcomes. But I would say that if this is an outcome, then we haven't achieved peace, because if Putin is still in power, he will invade again.

So, I would strongly advise against such an outcome. Such an outcome is more likely to pull the US into conflict in the region and having to send in troops this time.

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La vie douceToday 11:55 am JST

Most would agree it is either slightly advancing or at the very least holding the territory it captured. As I stated previously in my opinion when ceasefire eventually happens it is likely to be pretty much along the lines as they are now. ------If that happens, then Russia has achieved none of its war aims and has lost.

So if Russia gets all the Russian speaking areas it now holds it has lost? Putin will likely consider taking such a "loss" even if his initial geopolitcal aims were more ambitious.

Presumably Putin would be calling for a ceasefire without conditions then. It's not like Ukraine is going to counteroffer with a ceasefire with Russian withdrawal or something.

This is the guy that went straight for the jugular by heading for Kyiv, though, so we have to trust him as far as he can be thrown.

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The question is how much more time and casualties on both sides will it take.

Hopefully a lot more Russian casualties, at least under this current regime.

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