U.S. sending fighter jets, warship to Gulf region to protect ships from Iranian seizures

Question is why is this happening? Is the Iranian Navy involved in piracy now?

Question is why is this happening? Is the Iranian Navy involved in piracy now?

They are seizing loaded oil tankers leaving the Straits of Hormuz in retaliation for UN sanctions on their oil deliveries. They have also attacked many others with the same small drones the Russians are using to attack Ukraine.

The Iranian's are literally catching shiploads of smuggled oil, and the US response to that shows it is a partnership in the smuggling operation.

Anyway, it’s very good and necessary to have a little bit equipment near there. Of course it’s a camouflage and not about a few small tankers or smugglers’ ships with some barrels of oil on board, but the day is surely very near when there’s a need to clean up our planet from those nuclear enrichment centrifuges the Iranian mullahs have there in batteries of many thousands.

If you aren’t already aware of this situation then you really don’t pay attention to what’s going on in the world

The idea that the US Navy, or indeed the US is engaged in oil piracy is just so laughable as to call into question the cognitive abilities of anyone foolish enough to postulate it.

It is in a word, ludicrous.

an arid region in Southwest Asia and part of North Africa stretching from the Mediterranean Sea to the Persian Gulf, bounded by the Black and Caspian Seas in the north and the Sahara Desert and Indian Ocean in the south.

I stand corrected sir/madam. Sorry.

Rodney you do realize that the Middle East is part of Asia ?

HoudiniToday 12:17 pm JST

Question is why is this happening? Is the Iranian Navy involved in piracy now?

Same old game the USA is playing - they have instigated the whole situation as an excuse to use force by infringement of Iranian livelihood and threats to Iranian security .

Iran, the second largest executor of its citizens in the world, is also a sponsor of terrorism in addition to its illegal nuclear program. The US isn't instigating anything.

It will be counter-productive to negotiations of Iranian nuclear program and Russia's military objectives in Ukraine.

So all-around a good thing, huh?

The Iranian "navy" is indeed ATTEMPTING to engage in piracy. Unfortunately for them, (and fortunately for us) they suck at it.

Oh, and the US Navy is on the case. So there is that as well.

RichardPearceToday 10:55 am JST

The Iranian's are literally catching shiploads of smuggled oil, and the US response to that shows it is a partnership in the smuggling operation.

I'd ask for the source on this, but we know it is BS.

Question is why is this happening?

It might have something to do with the US illegal occupation of Syria recently becoming increasingly threatened by Russia.

The idea that the US Navy, or indeed the US is engaged in oil piracy is just so laughable as to call into question the cognitive abilities of anyone foolish enough to postulate it.

It is well known that the US has been stealing Syria's oil (and wheat) for years. Trump himself admitted this.

Raw BeerToday 03:23 pm JST

Question is why is this happening?

It might have something to do with the US illegal occupation of Syria recently becoming increasingly threatened by Russia.

I believe some proofs of this are in order. Russia can't even advance in Urkaine.

The idea that the US Navy, or indeed the US is engaged in oil piracy is just so laughable as to call into question the cognitive abilities of anyone foolish enough to postulate it.

It is well known that the US has been stealing Syria's oil (and wheat) for years. Trump himself admitted this.

A Putin fanboy admitted that, huh? Well clearly we should reverse course.

in addition to its illegal nuclear program

How exactly is Iran's nuclear program 'illegal'?

M3M3M3Today 04:41 pm JST

in addition to its illegal nuclear program

How exactly is Iran's nuclear program 'illegal'?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iran#UN_sanctions_against_Iran

I guess you have me there that the UN hasn't been forced to snapback the sanctions yet. Presumably the UK will grow a spine at some point and snapback the provisions.

It's "illegal" if it goes against US interests

The Iranians are big talkers until they blow up and sink.

To be fair, past experience has taught them to run away before this happens.

It's "illegal" if it goes against US interests

The UN security council’s (of which China and Russia are both permanent members) resolutions make it illegal.

Or is that some kind of clever CIA conspiracy as well?

The UN security council’s (of which China and Russia are both permanent members) resolutions make it illegal.

Which resolutions?

The Revolutionary Guards.

The Nuclear Non-proliferation treaty for one. Iran is a party but has been ruled in non-compliance.

UNR 2231 for another.

The US had to threaten to directly take part in combat to keep control over Iraq after the 'Iran Iraq war'. It's illegal control over Iraq is threatened again (as is its illegal invasion and occupation of Syria) so it is trying to beef up its presence in the Persian Gulf under the ridiculous claim that Iran exercising control over Iranian waters is piracy.

The thing is that while the games it played in Ukraine have cost it most of its stockpiles of ammunition and weapons, the game it is signaling it wants to play in the Persian Gulf will cost it manned navy ships and military bases.

PS, the worst thing you can do with deep water war ships is deploy them in an expanse of shallow water to fight against a navy that is designed for combat in shallow water.

The US had to threaten to directly take part in combat to keep control over Iraq after the 'Iran Iraq war'. It's illegal control over Iraq is threatened again (as is its illegal invasion and occupation of Syria) so it is trying to beef up its presence in the Persian Gulf under the ridiculous claim that Iran exercising control over Iranian waters is piracy.

Not a single phrase much less a full sentence in this “thought” comports with actual facts.

Im not sure what reality this one is existing in but it is not the one that the rest of the sentient beings on Earth are experiencing.

@EFD

The Nuclear Non-proliferation treaty for one. Iran is a party but has been ruled in non-compliance.

The IAEA (or any signatory to the NPT) is free to express an opinion on Iran's compliance with the NPT, but these are simply opinions, not judicial determinations. Opinions on Iran's compliance or non-compliance vary widely, even among experts in the West. There is no mechanism in the NPT to rule on whether a nuclear program is legal or not.

UNR 2231 for another.

You seem unfamiliar with the content of resolution 2231. Rather than making Iran's nuclear program illegal, it does the exact opposite. It repeals all previous UNSC resolutions on Iran's nuclear program in exchange for agreeing to the terms of the JCPOA. As it stands, Iran's nuclear program is not facing any UNSC sanctions. It's as legal as it gets.

Replacing inefficient oil and gas power plants with nuclear energy is a legitimate and rational goal for Iran. It makes financial sense to export these commodities rather than burn them unnecessarily.

To Iran, I say, if you followed international law, this action wouldn't be necessary. All ships will be safer in the region, except those from Iran. Chinese, European, other middle-eastern, African, Asian and even Russian ships doing what they are supposed to do will all be safer.

So, to the world, I say "you are welcome".

The US is trying to enforce the sort of 'law and order' in the Persian Gulf region that John Gotti enforced in New York.

The Americans are not the only navy in the gulf. The British and the French.

RichardPearceJuly 18 08:30 pm JST

The US had to threaten to directly take part in combat to keep control over Iraq after the 'Iran Iraq war'. It's illegal control over Iraq is threatened again (as is its illegal invasion and occupation of Syria)

That's extremely impressive that the US can control Iraq with 2500 troops and Syria with 900 troops.

so it is trying to beef up its presence in the Persian Gulf under the ridiculous claim that Iran exercising control over Iranian waters is piracy.

No, abducting tankers in international waters is piracy.

The thing is that while the games it played in Ukraine have cost it most of its stockpiles of ammunition and weapons, the game it is signaling it wants to play in the Persian Gulf will cost it manned navy ships and military bases.

Would like to see Iran try something with its tug boats.

PS, the worst thing you can do with deep water war ships is deploy them in an expanse of shallow water to fight against a navy that is designed for combat in shallow water.

I'm fairly certain the US Navy has depth charts and long range ammunition.