U.S. shuts border post as migrants try to cross from Mexico

Isn’t Mexico supposed to secure their side of the border?

See, the border works. Of course money is needed for maintenance and improvements, but not a $25 billion wall. And the Border Control can handle these things. It's their job. They don't need the army.

That said, these migrants better take care. Tijuana's welcome is already wearing thin, and the might find themselves on buses with metal mesh windows headed back to the Guatemala border.

Trump has repeatedly warned .....while providing no evidence to support that.

The 'while providing no evidence' caveat is no longer needed for the majority of Americans.

Only the handful of remaining Trumpistanians (including other anti-Americans), those in his cult, believe anything he says.

Nope, and you never will be unless you follow our laws.

Are we in the United States yet?"

Trump fans’ heads are about to explode.

This is going to be awesome.

So is it an invasion yet? Or do they need to actually make it across first? “Attempted invasion”?

Good. Maybe Mexico will try harder to stop the next horde if they know that they'll get stuck with them.

Send them back. Our schools are already overcrowded and under funded.

Thought these people were thousands of miles away and were only manufactured for the purpose of the midterm election after which we would never hear of them again and they would never actually arrive?

Well that was a lie.

If Mexico can't ship the cars they make in Mexico to the US then the factories will close. Then the Mexican government will have to support the workers. What is happening in France right now is a good example what Mexico will look like it America blocks all shipments from Mexico.

Oil prices are also dropping and Petrobas wont be making as much money. Much economic pressure can be put on Mexico. Latins have great pride in their countries but don't want to live in them. they can assemble cars but cant design and manufacture them. They can't manufacture cars, planes, boats or heavy machinery. They may have great pride in themselves, but their governments have said that they DON'T want illegal aliens in America to return home. Nothing will stop Latins except other Latins. Mexicans will turn on the unwelcome invaders once things get bad because of them.

Blacklabel: So is it an invasion yet?

Maybe invasion would be a better description for the Clive Bundy stand-off where right-wingers took over a federal facility with weapons and held it.

But unarmed people looking to request asylum? Nah. That’s more for emotional Trump fans who are motivated by fear or racism or both.

Amid growing desperation on Sunday, a group of about 500 migrants - who had been taking part in a peaceful protest demanding to be allowed to cross - made a run for the border.

They aren't helping their case for asylum.

They aren't helping their case for asylum.

Attempt to cross illegally and you should go straight back over with force if necessary. Absolutely no problem with it. Everywhere else on the planet this is bog standard procedure when people try to cross borders illegally. In fact in much of the world, you cop a bullet for your trouble.

Parents putting their kids through this ordeal ought to be ashamed of themselves. While asylum requests are being processed at about 100 a day its better than 0 a day. Perhaps it can be faster? Maybe.

Better off staying in Mexico and expecting a 1 - 2 month haul. Mexico needs assistance for these people as well with temporary accommodation, food, water etc.

As of Tuesday, 40 migrants with the caravan have been deported, out of 57 detained for offenses such as drug possession, fighting and public disorder, city officials said.

But the vast majority are families with good intentions and “they tell us they can help identify those people (gang members) and turn them over to be deported,” said Diaz.

Another woman explained, "the process of asking for asylum in the United States is slower and more complicated than she expected."

Another woman explained, "the process of asking for asylum in the United States is slower and more complicated than she expected."

It was never going to be quick if its done according to the law

Immigration is a complicated legal field for a start that requires highly specialized training. Then you need court time and judges. You need to do background checks, as much as possible into the history of individuals and if you have no ID papers that makes it about a million times harder and longer than it needs to be. Can't just snap fingers and expect things to be done. Doesn't work that way.

In saying all that people need to be treated with dignity and so Mexico needs assistance with this situation just as much as the U.S needs to enforce its border.

"Trump fans’ heads are about to explode."

This statement has no basis in reality.

Those who support these migrants/invaders should open their own homes to provide food and places to sleep for the ones who make it across the border. Any volunteers? Super? Pete? expat? No? Then keep silent and respect and follow President Trump's orders.

Very good true post Serrano!

I would like to hear details from all the migrant invader lovers on here about how much they have donated to the various charities for the maintenance of these invaders as well as when their own houses will be ready for occupancy by these invaders.

Put your money where your mouth is or close it. You have nothing to say on this invasion.

Our schools are already overcrowded and under funded.

Maybe some of the obscene billions spent on the military could be diverted to schools so that so many Americans didn't grow up functionally illiterate?

Parents putting their kids through this ordeal ought to be ashamed of themselves.

I can't disagree with that. The kids are not to blame for anything.

Even more ashamed, however, should be the trumpets rejoicing at the tear-gassing of said kids.

As for the Moron In Chief who's gleefully ordering the caging/gassing of children and bragging about it .... words fail me.

keep silent and respect and follow President Trump's orders.

He does not command respect in anything he does or says.

It's time to recount Florida votes again, migrants could mail in their ballots from Tijuana with over-night delivery.

Assuming these migrants were allowed into the US, what will they do, where will they live, and who's paying for all of that ?

There was nothing wrong with our existing asylum policy, as well over 90% of asylum-seekers turned up for their hearings. This is another example of how autocrats like Trump often make the problems they claim they're trying to solve worse. 

A difficult situation that was mishandled from the start is about to become a humanitarian and economic catastrophe.

So is it an invasion yet? 

Sure 500 people armed with water bottles have invaded the US.

Is it time to activate the nuclear launch protocol?

Maybe some of the obscene billions spent on the military could be diverted to schools so that so many Americans didn't grow up functionally illiterate?

With China and Russia looming around the corner bolstering, I would rather cut entitlements, I prefer a strong military. Illiterate? Brits have been saying that about us since the Colonial days, what else is new? Lol

I can't disagree with that. The kids are not to blame for anything.

I definitely agree with you on that. It’s not their fault that some are being used and put in the frontlines by their parents, terrible.

Even more ashamed, however, should be the trumpets rejoicing at the tear-gassing of said kids.

Not at all, but the law is the law, if you break the law of any sovereign country you should be subjected to its laws up to the fullest extent.

As for the Moron In Chief who's gleefully ordering the caging/gassing of children and bragging about it .... words fail me.

Gassing now it is? Oh, dear lord....

If Mexico can't ship the cars they make in Mexico to the US then the factories will close.

America ships $260+billion in goods to Mexico each year, trade works both ways.

Trump administration bungles everything they attempt. There ALWAYS HAVE BEEN and there ALWAYS WILL BE asylum seekers, so get your act in gear!!

There was nothing wrong with our existing asylum policy,

Yes, there was! It was never enforced, not since I was a kid and even beyond that.

as well over 90% of asylum-seekers turned up for their hearings.

That’s not exactly true.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-90-of-illegals-skip-immigration-court-appearances-135-000-will-go-missing

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-90-of-illegals-skip-immigration-court-appearances-135-000-will-go-missing

This is another example of how autocrats like Trump often make the problems they claim they're trying to solve worse. 

A difficult situation that was mishandled from the start is about to become a humanitarian and economic catastrophe.

So why do liberals hate closed borders?

It's time to recount Florida votes again, migrants could mail in their ballots from Tijuana with over-night delivery.

oh dear thats the problem with conspiracy theories , they lack common sense and are contagious, unfortunaely no amount of reality can cure this disease. It does seem to be more prevalent in the uneducated.

now a response link to a conspiracy theory site with zero credibility in 3..2..1..

Thought these people were thousands of miles away

They were and some of them were closer.

It's hardly rocket science.

I would like to hear details from all the migrant invader lovers on here about how much they have donated to the various charities for the maintenance of these invaders as well as when their own houses will be ready for occupancy by these invaders.

That's about as logical as saying all those concerned about the border should have enlisted to go and engage with the non-existent invasion.

One can be concerned with humanity without having to be at the front of things. Feel horrible about the communities in Calfornia after the fires? Why aren't you there, then?

Horrified by the increase in anti-Semitic attacks? What are you doing about it, then?

And so on, etc, etc.

Anyway, it's not down to those who have concerns to post details online of exactly what they're doing. Or what they're not doing. Be they genuinely concerned folks or far right folks (with curious usernames).

Put your money where your mouth is or close it. You have nothing to say on this invasion.

With respect, who are you to attempt to silence debate on this? This is not an invasion, despite the lie spun that it is. People can see through the rhetoric, I hope, just like they did in the 30s.

Oil prices are also dropping and Petrobas wont be making as much money. Much economic pressure can be put on Mexico. 

Petrobras is a Brazilian company. What does the first sentence have to do with the second?

So you know the difference between Pemex and Petrobas !! Amazing !!

That's about as logical as saying all those concerned about the border should have enlisted to go and engage with the non-existent invasion.

What?

This is not an invasion,

Hundreds of people trying to storm the border, I guess they’re just interested in visiting “In n’ Out”

despite the lie spun that it is. People can see through the rhetoric, I hope, just like they did in the 30s

And the Democrats they keep trying and trying.

With China and Russia looming around the corner bolstering, I would rather cut entitlements, I prefer a strong military

The US spends on its military more than twice Russia and China combined. There's strong, and then there's boondoggling to the detriment of the public good.

the law is the law

American law says it's OK to cage little children and tear-gas them?

Maybe you would all be better off speaking Russian.

Gassing now it is?

They certainly aren't handing out candy bars to the kids, are they? Though strictly speaking tear gas apparently consists of aerosolized solid compounds, not a gas as such. It's a chemical weapon.

Used on kids who are too young to be legally liable for breaking any laws. They're just going with their parents.

Approximately 5,000 reached Tijuana over the past week

So is it an invasion yet?

When those 5,000 migrants try to forcibly as a mob enter into the U.S., then it's an invasion and the U.S. border patrol and military has every right to treat them as invaders and repel as appropriate.

Isn’t Mexico supposed to secure their side of the border?

They do and they are sending the migrants back to their country of origin.  But its okay for Mexico to do so, but NOT OKAY for the U.S. to do same.

And the Democrats they keep trying and trying.

That's why they oppose securing the borders on the U.S. side and advocate open borders, welcome unlimited migration, give them voter registration cards and other free privileges so they will vote Democrat.

Nothing will stop Latins !!..

That's true.  "La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" is their motto.

Nothing will stop the Latinos in their ultimate goal to turn the U.S. into "United States of Latin America."  And it's further unfortunate the Democrats unwittingly support it.

Hundreds of people trying to storm the border, I guess they’re just interested in visiting “In n’ Out”

Funny to see our arm-chair warriors running scared of a few hundred unarmed migrants at the border.

Would be even funnier if Donny rallies his troops at the border and lead the charge on the invading hordes.

> Nothing will stop the Latinos in their ultimate goal to turn the U.S. into "United States of LatinAmerica."

Good to see some old-fashioned bigotry on full display.

And the Democrats they keep trying and trying.

yep, they keep trying and have taken the house from the Republicans as a result. good effort I would say. let's see Trump get that deluded legislation to the Senate now, time for some good old Obama compromise, wonder if Trump can stomach it. LOL

The US spends on its military more than twice Russia and China combined. There's strong, and then there's boondoggling to the detriment of the public good.

Not nearly enough to upgrade into modern eyes the military, especially through the previous eight years that was not done at all

American law says it's OK to cage little children and tear-gas them? 

America law is clear, break the law and it shall be enforced, and even children will be subjected to the law. You can’t make a rule for one and change it for another, nor should you.

They certainly aren't handing out candy bars to the kids, are they? Though strictly speaking tear gas apparently consists of aerosolized solid compounds, not a gas as such. It's a chemical weapon. 

Ok and?

Used on kids who are too young to be legally liable for breaking any laws. They're just going with their parents.

Who use them as pawns and think by putting them up in the front the military wouldn’t have the guts to use the on my kids, so hopefully they will let me in. Wow, some parent. The last thing I would do as a parent would have my kids anywhere near where they could possibly be gassed or attacked, no matter the circumstances.

So liberals just refuse to call it an invasion as long as at least one child can be found for the media to take a photo of. Or if one person didn’t have lunch and can be called “hungry”.

The fact that these people ran towards our border with the intention of forcing their way in means nothing in violation of our law means nothing?

The guy that tries to break in your home at night when you are asleep isn’t a criminal. He just wants the first chance to rent your house after you move out. Liberal (lack of) logic.

Not nearly enough to upgrade into modern eyes the military

I'm not sure how that scans into English, but I think you're saying that America is chronically, pathologically and morbidly afraid of the rest of the world.

Sad.

America law is clear, break the law and it shall be enforced

Then you please be clear, does American law state that it's OK to cage and tear-gas children?

If it does, then shame on America and its lawmakers.

You can’t make a rule for one and change it for another, nor should you.

Unless it's a Saudi prince who kills his opponents but he's forgiven because he buys American weapons and gives America money and oil?

Or a Korean despot who executes his uncle for disagreeing with him and poisons his brother for, well, being his brother, but he's forgiven because Bone-spurs wants a photo op?

Can you spell two-faced hypocrite?

The last thing I would do as a parent would have my kids anywhere near where they could possibly be gassed or attacked

So do you never allow your kids to attend a US school, college, concert, marathon meeting, restaurant or shopping mall where they could get gunned down or blown up any day of the week? Even when they haven't broken any laws?

What?

I suggest you read my reply to the poster again.

He's saying if we are so concerned we should act and house migrants. I'm saying if he's so concerned, he should enlist.

I'm pointing out the inherent nonsense in his post, by making a nonsensical suggestion of my own.

The guy that tries to break in your home at night when you are asleep isn’t a criminal. He just wants the first chance to rent your house after you move out. Liberal (lack of) logic.

Were Jewish asylum seekers in the 30s trying to break into your home?

Desperate spinning from Trumpists on this.

Then you please be clear, does American law state that it's OK to cage and tear-gas children?

Shouldn't be rushing the border of a sovereign nation state and attempting to cross illegally. Its pretty simple.

It honestly blows my mind that many American leftists think this is perfectly ok.

If a mob of people are attempting to cross a national border what are your options? First option is to yell and tell them to back off, they ignore that, what's the second option? Its going to be some sort of force isn't it?

People should be free to claim asylum at the dedicated points of entry and follow the procedures outlined by the U.S government. Yes its going to be a wait, which is why Mexico needs some assistance here with temporary accommodation, food and other essentials, health care. And they also need to sort out their southern border which unless incompetence takes over is now very likely from what I've read.

It's time to recount Florida votes again, migrants could mail in their ballots from Tijuana with over-night delivery.

wtf: "oh dear thats the problem with conspiracy theories , they lack common sense and are contagious..."

My joke went over your head, wtf.

In all seriousness though, it's now a humanitarian crisis in Tijuana. The Democrats really should stop encouraging these people to enter our country illegally. 

Anyway, Mexico offered them asylum and they turned it down. Don't they have to apply for asylum in the first country they get to? In order to separate the real refugees from the window shoppers?

you're saying that America is chronically, pathologically and morbidly afraid of the rest of the world.

No, I’m saying, we don’t want to be an open revolving door for illegals. If you follow the rules, come in legally or legally apply for asylum, follow and respect all of our sovereign laws then by all means do so and we will welcome you.

Then you please be clear, does American law state that it's OK to cage and tear-gas children?

I already gave an answer. As I have said before, I find it horrible that any parent would hide behind their child in order to break to law and use them to illegally enter any country. So I blame the parents 100%.

Unless it's a Saudi prince who kills his opponents but he's forgiven because he buys American weapons and gives America money and oil?

Yes, sadly, but “yes.”

but he's forgiven because Bone-spurs wants a photo op?

That was an attempt at what exactly?

So do you never allow your kids to attend a US school, college, concert, marathon meeting, restaurant or shopping mall where they could get gunned down or blown up any day of the week? Even when they haven't broken any laws?

For one, I never try to enter ANY country illegally and I would never use my kids as pawns or potential collateral damage in order to circumvent or bypass any sovereign laws, let’s start from that point.

Anyway, Mexico offered them asylum and they turned it down. Don't they have to apply for asylum in the first country they get to?

That is a genuine point actually. Did they turn it down? I would be surprised if Mexico had the ability to look into the claims of thousands of people in a matter of a month or so?

But absolutely that point about first port of call is a valid.

In no other land than Trumpland would the spectacle of 500 unarmed people trying to push their way across a border be seen as an "invasion" that the 325 million inhabitants of the country needed to be afraid of.

I guess you haven't crossed many land borders full of refugees with very different economic standards on both sides.

It isn't about the 500+ this time making the attempt.

It is about the 11+million already inside and the 5+million more from around the world who will see these stories and think - gee, that looks easy. We should go too.

I have a really hard time understanding why JT readers think the USA should have nearly open borders for Cuba and other Latin American countries for immigrants, but Japan allowed only 20 asylum seekers in last year? Why doesn't Japan allow NK people to enter? Seems that would be a similar moral request. NK is certainly worse off than the average Cuba or Mexican.

PBS said it was 1500 people rushing the border fence, 80% young men with carpets and tools to defeat the new razor wire.

Seems they forgot the gas masks.

Trump has repeatedly warned .....while providing no evidence to support that.

Let’s see, the President of the United States has access to all sort of formation provided by his intelligence agencies. The #fakenews media don’t have the same access or the intel.

Seems to me its the #fakenews media that has “...no evidence” for what they report. And they wonder why we don’t trust anything they “report”.

Japan Today, you must do better

You can’t make a rule for one and change it for another, nor should you.

Unless it's a Saudi prince who kills his opponents but he's forgiven because he buys American weapons and gives America money and oil?

Yes, sadly, but “yes.”

So you can change the rules for rich people, but not for innocent children caught up in stuff they don't understand and have no way of influencing?

Make America Gabble Again.