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which Flynn appeared to be trying to undermine the policy of then-President Barack Obama.

Obama at the time was planning sanctions on Russia for its interference in the 2016 election.

More examples, as if any more were needed, of a Trump backing, me-centric, money uber alles, country-be-damned WITCH.

Hunted down, but I still think they should LOCK FLYNN UP!

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Hunted down, but I still think they should LOCK FLYNN UP!

Why?

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Why not is more like the question....

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Hopefully President Trump will pardon General Flynn and give him a job in his administration. Perhaps Secretary of Homeland Security.

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@cla68 Hopefully President Trump will pardon General Flynn and give him a job in his administration. Perhaps Secretary of Homeland Security

Because Flynn has so many Russian friends, do you think he'd make it easier for y'all to get into and stay in the US were he head of Homeland Security?

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Then why is he not in prison, if he were, he would be, so I guess he’s not.

There's an ongoing investigation, y'see and these things require time. In some cases, deals are cut and the criminal is let go in order to net a bigger fish.

Criminal cases can sometimes take years to proceed.

Not just in the US but in the rest of the world, too.

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Because Flynn has so many Russian friends, do you think he'd make it easier for y'all to get into and stay in the US were he head of Homeland Security?

LOL

Good luck with getting a reply to that.

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As much as I would like to #LockHimUp, I would much prefer that Flynn's "substantial contributions" to the investigation result in seeing the entire crime syndicate's family locked up, including the bloviating snitgibbon himself.

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@cla Hopefully President Trump will pardon General Flynn and give him a job in his administration. Perhaps Secretary of Homeland Security..I heard that Daivid Duke was in line for that position. Presidentail pardons are awesome arnt they yeah ha...

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There's an ongoing investigation, y'see and these things require time. In some cases, deals are cut and the criminal is let go in order to net a bigger fish.

But what happens if that fish leads to someone other than the President, let’s say a few Democrats or someone other than the President, you’d still be equally as satisfied with the results of the investigation, right?

Criminal cases can sometimes take years to proceed. 

And oftentimes lead to nothing.

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But what happens if that fish leads to someone other than the President, let’s say a few Democrats or someone other than the President, you’d still be equally as satisfied with the results of the investigation, right?

Sure, as I've said many times, I'm not a Democrat. I'm not an American, either. But as your reckless Govt endangers not just the US but the rest of the world, I want to see justice done. No matter how long it takes.

Anyway, in all likelyhood this will lead to more headaches for the Trump administration, so it's all good for me.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/04/michael-flynn-sentence-mueller-trump-russia-investigation-latest

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Mueller's version of a pardon. He's sending a message to those still on the fence about giving evidence that if they cooperate fully, they won't do any prison time. At the same time, he's using Manafort as an example, and stringing Cohen along. If Cohen clearly corroborates the scheme Rachael Maddow laid out 11.30 about self-dealing during the 2016 campaign and a quid-pro-quo loan from a Russian bank contingent of sanctions on Russia being removed, it will be Trump who is removed - in handcuffs.

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@bas4  let’s say a few Democrats or someone other than the President, you’d still be equally as satisfied with the results of the investigation, right?

Any person, regardless of political affiliation, regardless of position, regardless of their family, found having committed a crime of any sort needs to be brought to justice.

Get some Mueller! Clean the swamp!

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Lock him . . . WHAT?!

Well, the info he's got on Trump must be pretty good to warrant a pardon from Mueller. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall when the Mueller team is interviewing Flynn?

BTW, this is exactly what the FBI does when they eliminate a mob family.

HBO should make a TV series in the near future called The Trumpanos.

"Hey, D! Whadayathink? Should we take 'im out?"

D: " 'Dey ain't stand-up guys! Rub 'doze rats out. 'Dey flipped. Why didn' 'dey take 'du fiff? Squealers!"

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But what happens if that fish leads to someone other than the President, let’s say a few Democrats or someone other than the President, you’d still be equally as satisfied with the results of the investigation, right?

Yes, because we aren't hyperpartisan to the point of hoping criminals walk free, unlike Trump supporters.

And oftentimes lead to nothing.

So, no reason to even bother?

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Heh-Heh...... what did he say? “I’ve got @ story to tell.” Guess it wasn’t really a big deal after all.

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Heh-Heh...... what did he say? “I’ve got @ story to tell.” Guess it wasn’t really a big deal after all.

Given Mueller recommended no prison time, you guess incorrectly.

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Bob Mueller. There's an American.

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Lt Gen Micheal "I'm a ranting, raving, lunatic nut" Flynn shows how loyal he is to Trump by giving Mueller and his team everything they were asking for, i.e., "very cooperative." Flynn, along with Manafort, were at the front of the campaign communicating with the Russians, so he I'm sure had some interesting tales to tell. Don Jr, Ivanka and Jared should be very worried - and along with the Great Orange Impostor.

I was hoping he'd get a little time in jail - just so we could see him in his orange jumpsuit - and let the "lock him up" memes proliferate...

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It has been obvious from the start that the only time Flynn will be doing is "Mueller Time" while continuing to enjoy all the privileges and perks he as a paid up member of the the elite class of Amerika feels himself entitled to and deserving of. "Service to the country" etc. is always cited to excuse the most egregious violations of law and to justify the greatest perk of all: impunity for the shameless crimes of the rich and powerful.

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Bob Mueller. There's an American.

It's been interesting reading so many Trump supporting Americans attack Mueller. Mueller's spent his entire life upholding the cornerstones of American democracy. Trump has given little if anything (even cheats on his taxes http://time.com/5416649/trump-tax-lessons/) and daily tries to undermine the country's ever weakening foundations of democracy, attacking the intelligence agencies, Congress, the judiciary, and any outlet in the free, for-profit press that questions his decisions. While kissing up to despots that want to bring down the US.

But somehow some in Trump's base claim Mueller's the problem, to them Mueller's the one who's un-American. While Mueller and the intelligence agencies try to protect the US from Russian 'meddling', these same Trump supporters want to stop any investigation that might show Trump to be the slimy politician he is.

Mueller's story is interesting: https://www.wired.com/story/robert-mueller-vietnam/

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Sure, as I've said many times, I'm not a Democrat. I'm not an American, either.

I’ve always wondered why so many non-Americans care about what goes on in the US, I could care less what happens in other countries.

But as your reckless Govt endangers not just the US but the rest of the world, I want to see justice done. No matter how long it takes.

You want? I want the rest of the world worry about their own State of affairs.

Anyway, in all likelyhood this will lead to more headaches for the Trump administration, so it's all good for me.

Nothing that they can’t handle, been doing it since he’s been in office, they’re pro at this stuff now.

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Trump must be going nuts, what with GHWB's funeral preventing him from Lashing out at Flynn on Twitter. Come Friday, I anticipate an avalanche.

Wonder when Donny Jr. will be indicted and how he'll react. Will he turn on his dad or risk jail time?

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I’ve always wondered why so many non-Americans care about what goes on in the US, I could care less what happens in other countries.

We know...

But as your reckless Govt endangers not just the US but the rest of the world, I want to see justice done. No matter how long it takes.

You want? I want the rest of the world worry about their own State of affairs.

They are with the exception of Russia who is waging war against Ukraine, aiding dictators and tyrants around the world, and oh yes, interfering in our election and colluding with the current President.

Anyway, in all likelyhood this will lead to more headaches for the Trump administration, so it's all good for me.

Nothing that they can’t handle, been doing it since he’s been in office, they’re pro at this stuff now.

They're certainly pro's at getting indicted and lying to the FBI...

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I’ve always wondered why so many non-Americans care about what goes on in the US, I could care less what happens in other countries.

Odd, then, that you "could care less" when Russian interference has derailed your own country.

You want? I want the rest of the world worry about their own State of affairs.

The problem being that your state of affairs affects us all. And as long as that continues, we'll be commenting here and elsewhere about it.

Nothing that they can’t handle, been doing it since he’s been in office, they’re pro at this stuff now.

Most criminal syndicates are - until the crimes stack up and the evidence cannot be dismissed anymore.

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Mueller is sending out the right message, tell the truth, cooperate with the law and help in getting other criminals locked up, you can expect leniency.

I’ve always wondered why so many non-Americans care about what goes on in the US, I could care less what happens in other countries.

Lack of a college education sometimes limits your interest in what is beyond your immediate horizon.

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Bob Mueller. There's an American

As well as the President in all of his red, white and blue.

It's been interesting reading so many Trump supporting Americans attack Mueller. Mueller's spent his entire life upholding the cornerstones of American democracy.

Yeah, you can believe that if you like....

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/how-corrupt-is-bob-mueller-allowed-four-men-to-rot-in-prison-knew-they-were-innocent-costs-taxpayers-102-million/

Trump has given little if anything even cheats on his taxes 

He wouldn’t be the first and won’t be the last.

and daily tries to undermine the country's ever weakening foundations of democracy,

The Democrats haven't been exactly helpful either.

attacking the intelligence agencies, Congress, the judiciary, and any outlet in the free, for-profit press that questions his decisions. While kissing up to despots that want to bring down the US.

The same people that are trying to bring him down, so in other words you think they should unjustifiably attack him and he should just take it? Not going to happen.

But somehow some in Trump's base claim Mueller's the problem, to them Mueller's the one who's un-American.

Very true. If he were a true and just or righteous person then he would have went after the pantsuit lady and the Podesta brothers and Lois Lerner

While Mueller and the intelligence agencies try to protect the US from Russian 'meddling', these same Trump supporters want to stop any investigation that might show Trump to be the slimy politician he is.

Or flipmode, the Mueller team could be covering up Democratic collusion, oh, the real possibilities

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Flynn didn't lie to Pence or Trump about his contacts with the Russians, it was Trump and Pence who lied to the American people, because they knew all along about his contacts with the Russians. He was literally acting on their behalf.

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The difference between Mueller and Dumpster Fire Donny is that Mueller actually cares about our country.

The President as well. Remember, the world got on him for NOT being a globalist and too PRO-American.

And you can believe Trump isn't a criminal.

Until I seee him indicted, arrested, charged and locked up, yes, I do.

The issue is that we have oodles of evidence demonstrating that Trump's words and actions are undermining our institutions.

I think it’s just a bunch of crock that the left are just angry because in spite of their best efforts they still can’t get this President.

You are clearly extremely confused. Reporting on Trump's words and actions is not unjustifiably attacking him.

Ok, I disagree with you.

Nope. He wasn't mandated to look into Podesta or Hillary.

Of course not, let’s just overlook the dead body and the stench, gotcha.

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General Flynn is a Three Star General. Mueller is a fraud. Any questions?

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But what happens if that fish leads to someone other than the President, let’s say a few Democrats or someone other than the President, you’d still be equally as satisfied with the results of the investigation, right?

Put it this way, professor.

It ain't us that's yapping about a witch hunt, or trying to smear Robert Mueller, or talking about presidential pardons being dished out to Trump's friends, family and himself.

What Mueller finds, he finds, and what he prosecutes, he prosecutes. If that involves taking down a Democrat, any Democrat, then fine. All he has to do is provide the evidence.

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General Flynn is a Three Star General. Mueller is a fraud. Any questions?

No questions - you can't fix stupid...

And by the way, your 3-star general has sat down with decorated Vietnam Vet Robert Mueller 19 times providing all sorts of dirt on your President and his criminal cronies - still think he's such a great guy?

This was after he admitted lying under oath...

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@serrano General Flynn is a Three Star General. Mueller is a fraud. Any questions?

Which one sold his services to Turkey's dictator and then lied about it?

Which one had to resign his appointment because he was caught out lying?

Which one was secretly meeting with Russians and then lied about it?

I know you've posted you're pro-Russian, but as an American I think when liars like Flynn are secretly meeting with people from a country that's meddling in US affairs it makes me think Flynn is a genuine, real threat to American security.

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If he did, then he would not need to become president. The man owns golf courses come one of the biggest real estate moguls in the country and has had a very successful TV show for over 14 years, if he cared about himself he could stuck to that, no need to go through the headaches and hassles of listening to whiny liberals and Democrats day in and day out. I wouldn’t do it!

Hah! trump is too stupid to have even known how bad it was going to get. He had been surrounded by yes men for so long that he thought presidenting would be easy. Your entire comment is based on a clearly faulty premise.

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lincoln - Pure speculation on your part. You have no idea what Flynn told Mueller.

Oh, any evidence of collusion yet? Hint: There isn't any.

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@serrano Oh, any evidence of collusion yet? Hint: There isn't any.

And you know this because...? Pure speculation on your part. You have no idea what Mueller knows.

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lincoln - Pure speculation on your part. You have no idea what Flynn told Mueller.

How do you know?

Oh, any evidence of collusion yet? Hint: There isn't any.

There isn't any in your mind, and never will be - even after Mueller releases the smoking gun...Manafort, Gates, Cohen, Flynn, Papadapolous, Don Jr, Jared, all meeting with Russians and keeping Trump informed.

We get that the whole "denial" thing about Trumpers - its the same with all members of a cult...

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The man owns golf courses come one of the biggest real estate moguls in the country and has had a very successful TV show for over 14 years, if he cared about himself he could stuck to that, no need to go through the headaches and hassles of listening to whiny liberals and Democrats day in and day out.

Because he's rich but is ultimately not particularly accomplished at anything except being a snake oil salesman. Nor has he contributed anything at all positive to society. That is his legacy; write it on his tombstone when he's gone: an inherited fortune squandered on ugly buildings, bankrupt casinos, trophy wives and pornstars, a scam university, and a tabloid media presence. Would that make you proud? It wouldn't me. This man is a stain on America that will be very hard to erase. He's ended up in politics because he himself knows there's nothing else left to his vacuous life. In a way, I feel sorry for this pathetic creep, but then I think about the way he's dragged everybody else down into his own depravity with his insipid Twitter presidency. No, I don't feel sorry for him, and I certainly don't respect his move into politics. You've got to be kidding.

I would be very happy to see this "man" live out his days in a deserved public shaming that he has long deserved. But I doubt this will ever happen. America is too broken, and Trump's presidency is evidence for that.

I'll give Flynn a break, though.

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lincoln - Pure speculation on your part. You have no idea what Flynn told Mueller.

"How do you know?"

Oh, so you DO know! Tell us, then, lincoln, what did Flynn tell Mueller? Oh, so you don't actually know!

"even after Mueller releases the smoking gun..."

Dream on.

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bass: Yeah, you can believe that if you like.... http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/how-corrupt-is-bob-mueller-allowed-four-men-to-rot-in-prison-knew-they-were-innocent-costs-taxpayers-102-million/

This story about Mueller is fake news. It was debunked by the actual judge who presided over the case who said Mueller wasn't part of the situation in any way, shape, or form.

Despite that, Trump fans are still going around trying to spread it. I doubt they really care if it's true or not anyway. Anything to save the deal leader...

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lincoln - Pure speculation on your part. You have no idea what Flynn told Mueller.

"How do you know?"

Oh, so you DO know! Tell us, then, lincoln, what did Flynn tell Mueller? Oh, so you don't actually know!

I didn't say I knew - I asked how do you know? So, how do you know?

"even after Mueller releases the smoking gun..."

Dream on.

Yes, that's Aerosmith...great song...

The noose get's tighter...

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What are all the Russian collusion brainwashed masses going to do when Mueller finally admits finding no evidence of Trump colluding during the election?

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"I didn't say I knew - I asked how do you know? So, how do you know?"

I don't. Only Mueller and his cronies know, lincoln.

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Serrano:. What are all the Russian collusion brainwashed masses going to do when Mueller finally admits finding no evidence of Trump colluding during the election?

Probably move on the the other list of crimes.

It's actually a win-win for us. I'll be there grinning that Trump's circle will be in orange jumpsuits, and you'll be there grinning that collusion wasn't the reason they are in jail.

We both get what we want.

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He didn’t cooperate against Trump. His “significant contribution” is actually to another ongoing criminal case outside of the Mueller investigation according to NBC News. Oops!

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NBC News: There appears, although the redacted documents do not make it completely clear, that there is a separate criminal investigation going on outside of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's purview for which Flynn has been providing significant assistance.

no jail time. All that speculation over nothing.

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NBC News: There appears, although the redacted documents do not make it completely clear, that there is a separate criminal investigation going on outside of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's purview for which Flynn has been providing significant assistance.

That's exactly what I read from this article... This specific paragraph.

A heavily redacted addendum to the Flynn memorandum Tuesday added more tantalizing hints. It indicated that Flynn was also aiding one or more other federal criminal investigations related to the Trump campaign, but not being led by Mueller.

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Blacklabel:. according to NBC Newd

Are you using the MSM as a source? Can we do that too or are you still not allowing it?

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Oh, any evidence of collusion yet? Hint: There isn't any.

Probably none provable of Trump. He tweets but doesn't use email, leaving no evidence. He's happy to kick to the curb those who tell the truth while praising those who stonewall - and that in itself might be obstruction of justice, dangling the carrot of a pardon in exchange for lying or pleading the 5th (ironic, as Trump once famously said, "Only guilty people plead the 5th").

My guess is he'll survive a single term as he watches those close to him either turn on him or be jailed - and this includes family members. He will grow increasingly isolated and paranoid. The power of the presidency will be greatly superseded by that of Congress. And then Trump will fade away, and no flags will be flown at half-mast at his funeral.

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God, this country is having such a s-show.

I'm already focusing on what I can do to protest the un-American/ anti-democratic moves that the GOP has been making in other states.   Blatant corruption and abuse of power.  Trump's GOP in a nutshell.  Party before country in a nutshell.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/04/us/wisconsin-republicans-power.html

https://www.channel3000.com/news/politics/elections/wisconsin-legislature-returns-after-recess-to-debate-executive-powers-bill/912105089

I'm at the point I want these people removed from their positions by FORCE, as they have no dignity, integrity, nor any respect for democracy.  The Trumpeteers here are also lacking in this capacity, and I don't respect fools.

Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina are all dealing with a literal corrupt Republican REGIME.

Mueller will hopefully get such devastating information to Trumps corruption that the current GOP regime will have to gag on their own evil deeds.   I've never come to despise a political organization as I have today with what the Republican "party" is doing.

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He sang like Caruso! Start increasing production of the orange jumpsuits! Over to you, Trump supporters!

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My guess is he'll survive a single term as he watches those close to him either turn on him or be jailed -

So that means if they compose, they’re looking at a sweet deal. And since Trump can pardon them, they don’t have to worry about being locked up for very long.

and this includes family members.

I doubt very much they will see the cold metal of a jail cell.

He will grow increasingly isolated and paranoid. The power of the presidency will be greatly superseded by that of Congress.

But thank God we got a conservative Senate now so that makes the pie even sweeter.

And then Trump will fade away, and no flags will be flown at half-mast at his funeral.

In a liberal alternate universe, probably.

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Flynn ain't getting that "Get out of jail free" card unless he had some really juicy,incriminating stuff.Don't hear the idiot in chief bashing Flynn for talking either,unlike his ex-lawyer,who'd have taken a bullet for him before.Now he's ducking "quack,quack."

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Just so we’re clear, what is the right’s conspiracy theory here?

Bass and others keep saying that people are making up lies to get off of harsh sentences, but are also drooling over the potential for Trump to pardon them for their criminal acts.

If you’d be pardoned anyway, why make stuff up? Bass goes “oh, prison is so terrible”, but if Trump is just going to pardon members of his criminal empire, as bass suggests, why bother making stuff up?

Face facts. The fish rots from the head, and Trump’s children, employees, friends, associates, and paymasters are all criminals.

Fatboy lardbucket Trump’s only defence that he isn’t a criminal is that he is too stupid to know what’s going on around him, which to be fair is a believeable defense.

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If you’d be pardoned anyway, why make stuff up? Bass goes “oh, prison is so terrible”, but if Trump is just going to pardon members of his criminal empire, as bass suggests, why bother making stuff up?

Criminal empire? There’s no proof of that whatsoever, so if you think that Mueller is the honest cop in this, others can think the exact opposite and looking at the evidence that Mueller has now and add to that Mueller’s own questionable history of exerting his authority as a cop is something not to be understated.

Face facts. The fish rots from the head, and Trump’s children, employees, friends, associates, and paymasters are all criminals.

Again, there is it proof of that, if there were and especially with what Mueller knows from all these people, everyone would be behind bars and that will never happen.

Fatboy lardbucket Trump’s only defence that he isn’t a criminal is that he is too stupid to know what’s going on around him, which to be fair is a believeable defense.

He doesn’t need to, that’s the reason why he has legal counsel, as does every other president

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Looks like Trump fans have mostly given up on the thought that any of these people are innocent and are putting all of their eggs into the pardon basket. I suppose it's all they have left.

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I wouldn’t say that, if this desperate witch hunt has to find something, anything to justify its existence, then thankfully thr President has his Presidential pardoning powers which he can use to make wrongs right.

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Nah, the only ones making accusations about improper actions are Trump, his fans, and some Republicans. That would be me like saying, "Clinton, Huffington Post, and I say Clinton is innocent, the DOJ is corrupt, and the president should pardon her." I'm guessing you wouldn't put much stock into that.

Besides, if there was any evidence of improper action the investigation would have been stopped a long time ago.

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since Trump can pardon them, they don’t have to worry about being locked up for very long.

And? You say this as if it has any relevance to anything.

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Bass and others keep saying that people are making up lies to get off of harsh sentences, but are also drooling over the potential for Trump to pardon them for their criminal acts.

The problem is, their guys are clearly in the wrong, and there is no reasonable defense of the things they have done. But they still want to score points, remember, this is the hyper-partisan game of arguing your point on the internet. Since they have no justification on a legal or moral ground for the things their guys have done, which are increasingly showing themselves to be illegal and immoral, this is the only point left that they can try to score; "well he's going to get let out anyways!". It makes them feel a little better about their hyper-partisanship, since they can still try to score a few emotional points for their ego.

It's like kids who say 'I know you are, but what am I?'. It's the only thing they have left to say at that point.

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Looks like Trump fans have mostly given up on the thought that any of these people are innocent and are putting all of their eggs into the pardon basket. I suppose it's all they have left.

It is. They're trying to find their dopamine rush from scoring hyper-partisan points anywhere they can, and at this moment all they have left is 'but they'll be pardoned!', as if we're silly enough to think that means anything.

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Nah, the only ones making accusations about improper actions are Trump, his fans, and some Republicans.

And it would seem that the Democrats are doing the same they jump in where head of the game.

Besides, if there was any evidence of improper action the investigation would have been stopped a long time ago.

At the president is not arrested and the president is in office, and will continue to remain there and even if he were to be indicted on some frivolous accusation can with this and it will never remove him. I think that is reality that Democrats just can’t or won’t except.

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Nah, the only ones making accusations about improper actions are Trump, his fans, and some Republicans.

And it would seem that the Democrats are doing the same they jump in where head of the game.

37 indictments and they keep coming...

Besides, if there was any evidence of improper action the investigation would have been stopped a long time ago.

At the president is not arrested and the president is in office, and will continue to remain there and even if he were to be indicted on some frivolous accusation can with this and it will never remove him. I think that is reality that Democrats just can’t or won’t except.

The desperate get more desperate as they realize that almost every member of the Trump campaign or administration is turning on His Majesty and cooperating with Mueller - and the information they are providing is leading to investigations in three separate areas.  Flynn talked to Mueller's team 19 times - and afterward, Mueller said he's given us good stuff, we'll let him pass on jail time...

Most of the Republicans in Congress can't stand Trump - they wanted Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio.  That's why they initially funded the Steel dossier. 

They won't stand for collusion, money laundering, obstruction, conspiracy, etc. etc.  They don't think like you - it's not all black or white (or red...)...

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Most of the Republicans in Congress can't stand Trump - they wanted Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio. That's why they initially funded the Steel dossier. 

This is very true. Can’t argue with that, but with over 73 accomplishments and Wood to greet conservative appointed supreme court judges and overhaul of the tax code in the ending of the regulations, the president has a comfortable 92% Republican favorability now,

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The FBI has said that if they find any credible accusations against Democrats, they will investigate. They said the same thing about Clinton. And the recent election results. And ..

The issue is that there are no credible accusations. It's all just self-serving, unsupported stories by Trump and his fans.

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The FBI has said that if they find any credible accusations against Democrats, they will investigate.

What a bunch of hogwash. There’s more than enough. I’m just astounded that these people everyone is just born dumb. No wonder no one trusts these nimrods.

They said the same thing about Clinton. And the recent election results. And ..

...decided to look the other way.

The issue is that there are no credible accusations. It's all just self-serving, unsupported stories by Trump and his fans.

Not the fans, the tangible evidence that Mueller chooses to ignore, but it doesn’t matter, after 2024 the Democrats will have plenty of time to get over their grief and find one might hope a decent politician if it exists.

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@bas4 No wonder no one trusts these nimrods.

By 'no one', do you mean no one in Trump's camp?

I trust them - but I'm not in Trump's (aka Individual 1) camp.

And given how many lies Trump's told and how many lies his employees, advisors and those in his family have told only the most zealous of Trump's followers would trust a single word he says.

Nimrods? They're among the most highly educated and trained employees found anywhere, public or private sector. Would you post your CV to compare?

They said the same thing about Clinton. And the recent election results. And ..

@bas4 ...decided to look the other way.

Please provide evidence they had a solid case to pursue. If you understand the US judicial system, you'd know prosecution is costly. If there's no solid case, it would waste time, resources and money.

I thought people who call themselves 'conservatives' didn't like to see government waste money. Think how much the multiple Benghazi investigations cost. What was their result?

the tangible evidence that Mueller chooses to ignore,

Such as?

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By 'no one', do you mean no one in Trump's camp? 

Page, McCabe, Strzok, Orr, Comey....where are they? Brennan and Clapper?

I trust them - but I'm not in Trump's (aka Individual 1) camp. 

Good, I don’t.

And given how many lies Trump's told and how many lies his employees, advisors and those in his family have told only the most zealous of Trump's followers would trust a single word he says.

Ok and could rattle off 2 dozen Democrats that make up worse lies, so what’s our point, sir?

Nimrods? They're among the most highly educated and trained employees found anywhere, public or private sector.

Wait a minute, so because you are trained agent, it prevents you from being a corrupt cop. Ted Bundy had one of the highest IQ ever and among other things, he lied a lot.

Please provide evidence they had a solid case to pursue.

I did numerous of times already, but as usual, you liberals rejected it. Fair enough. I reject the corrupt cops witch hunt as well.

I thought people who call themselves 'conservatives' didn't like to see government waste money. Think how much the multiple Benghazi investigations cost. What was their result?

We are dealing with the government and who is the government? Democrats especially in the DOJ leftovers from the former administration. Anyway, it’s just a waste. Give it up, take a break and relax. Trump isn’t going anywhere, but The bigger picture is what are you guys going to do for 2020 on until 202for? How are you guys manage to handle?

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What a bunch of hogwash.

That's right! Hillary being guilty of anything is a bunch of hogwash.

the tangible evidence that Mueller chooses to ignore

Like what?

but with over 73 accomplishments

Markets are down. I became richer under Obama.

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but as usual, you liberals rejected it.

WRONG!

Political party Republican

(Wikipedia)

Ok and could rattle off 2 dozen Democrats that make up worse lies

Like what?

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Page, McCabe, Strzok, Orr, Comey....where are they? Brennan and Clapper?

Not under investigation, that's where they are.

Ok and could rattle off 2 dozen Democrats that make up worse lies, so what’s our point, sir?

Then do it.

I did numerous of times already, but as usual, you liberals rejected it. Fair enough. I reject the corrupt cops witch hunt as well.

No, you haven't. Not on single time. You have repeatedly made this assertion without any evidence.

We are dealing with the government and who is the government? Democrats especially in the DOJ leftovers from the former administration.

Allow me to translate: I have no substantive reply so I'm simply going to trot out an asinine conspiracy theory.

> Anyway, it’s just a waste.

You think seeking justice is a waste only when conservatives are being investigated.

Give it up, take a break and relax.

Given your constant shrieking, it seems you need to give it up and take a break.

Trump isn’t going anywhere, but The bigger picture is what are you guys going to do for 2020 on until 202for? How are you guys manage to handle?

We've explained this to you numerous times.

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WRONG!

Political party Republican

(Wikipedia)

Clarification: About Mueller (who Trump approved)

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Page, McCabe, Strzok, Orr, Comey....where are they? Brennan and Clapper?

Not under investigation, that's where they are.

Exactly! And not screwing things up and trying to sabotage the President as much as they tried to.

No, you haven't.

No, I did for the last 18 months and every single time it was dismissed, so you whip a dead horse.

Allow me to translate: Liberals have been caught again and getting hooked offstage.

You think seeking justice is a waste only when conservatives are being investigated

I think it’s a waste if the Democrats think they’ll get Trump out of office.

It just won’t happen.

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Exactly! And not screwing things up and trying to sabotage the President as much as they tried to.

Not true according to the IG Report, which debunked every false charge that you and others have made against them. Continuing to peddle these falsehoods isn't going to change that.

No, I did for the last 18 months and every single time it was dismissed, so you whip a dead horse.

Your 18-month "explanations" were proven to be false by the IG Report and other sources, which is why all of your bogus accusations were dismissed. As far as whipping a dead horse goes, you do it every time that you repeat these debunked claims of "sabotage" or "corrupt behavior" on their part.

Allow me to translate: Liberals have been caught again and getting hooked offstage.

Allow me to translate: Hyper-partisan Trump supporters have been caught once again making false claims that they cannot support with actual facts, so they revert to the usual tactics of: deny, deflect, distort, and demonize. I'm sure that the rebuttals to this post will illustrate this quite nicely.

I think it’s a waste if the Democrats think they’ll get Trump out of office.

If Trump gets thrown out of office, it will be because all of the criminal acts committed by Trump and his cronies will have come to light, and those violations will then be subjected to the consequences of the rule of law--and if you think that Republicans in the Senate are going to look away after Mueller's final report comes out, then I suggest you refresh your memory and read up on what happened to Nixon after many of his supporters decided that they could no longer give him a pass in the face of hard evidence.

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If Trump gets thrown out of office,

“If” but he won’t! I’m 110% sure of that.

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lincoln - Pure speculation on your part. You have no idea what Flynn told Mueller.

"How do you know?"

Oh, so you DO know!

No, that wasn't a claim he made. He made the point that you don't know. This isn't a zero sum game; you not knowing does not mean, nor imply, nor even can logically be inferred that he does know. What you, he, and I all know is that the investigation has been very close lipped, and therefore you (as well as he and I) don't know what Flynn told Mueller. The difference however is that he (and I) never claimed to know what Flynn told Mueller, whereas you did.

Tell us, then, lincoln, what did Flynn tell Mueller? Oh, so you don't actually know!

Exactly. Lincoln never claimed to know. He just pointed out the fact that you don't know. Which incidentally is also what I'm pointing out now.

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“If” but he won’t! I’m 110% sure of that

And the last tactic of Trump

supporters when they have been caught repeating lies: ignore being called out.

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No, that wasn't a claim he made. He made the point that you don't know. This isn't a zero sum game; you not knowing does not mean, nor imply, nor even can logically be inferred that he does know. What you, he, and I all know is that the investigation has been very close lipped, and therefore you (as well as he and I) don't know what Flynn told Mueller. The difference however is that he (and I) never claimed to know what Flynn told Mueller, whereas you did.

This is airtight, though the way it is written ensures the target audience will be lost. However, Stranger dumbed it down enough for the target audience in the end:

Exactly. Lincoln never claimed to know. He just pointed out the fact that you don't know. Which incidentally is also what I'm pointing out now.

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General Flynn is a Three Star General.

earns far more respect than Cadet bonespurs

Mueller is a fraud.

according to which creditable investigator and what eveidence do you have

Any answers?

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“If” but he won’t! I’m 110% sure of that.

maybe so but it wont stop the Dems controlling the house, no more forced through BS legislation for Trump, if there is hard evidence and Trump still isnt forced from office then the resistance will just intensify, 2020, 75 seats congress seats up for reelection the majority of them Republican, history has shown that most parties lose seats than gain them in this situation. If the Dems control the house and senate Trump will be fully neutered

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then thankfully thr President has his Presidential pardoning powers which he can use to make wrongs right.

go ahead pardon convicted criminals, come next election itll probably backfire, just like the women's vote turned on Trump and lost him the house, pardoning convicted criminals will just turn more people against a POTUS who has no respect for the rule of law and the American constitution

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Revelation... Flynn has been badly mistreated. Give him Comey's house and Mueller's pension.

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