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Rittenhouse, cleared in protester deaths, says self-defense 'not illegal'

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It is likely Rittenhouse was coached.

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I am amazed how many people continue to attack Rittenhouse by repeating MSM talking points that have clearly been proven in court to be false. Interestingly, those same people also tend to attack the so-called "anti-vaxxers".

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There was a video of him in the car of his lawyer after the trial. His recovery was remarkable. All that crying in the court was plain acting to try and influence the jury.

Yes remarkable how he can turn the tears on and off.

He was drinking with the proud boys, making white power signs on camera, something the judge disallowed.

Yes his fake hysteria was allowed for all to see!!!

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Which. I gut be better than backing people based on how extreme their racism goes.

White man shooting 3 white men, sounds like that white supremacist has some major issues from within.

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Yes, of course. And crybaby tough guy will show up on propagandist provocateur Tucker Carlson’s show next week.

Even though he justifiably killed 2 people and injuring a third person it weighs on you, well at to most people. At least he did care about taking a life, most people would get emotional.

He will be anointed a hero by Tucker.

No, he will be recognized and rightfully so that our justice system still works despite the rush to judgment and media coverage, defamation, threats and intimidation from the media and still the jury was not going to allow all of these forces to bully and derail them from doing their job.

What a sick place America has become.

The judge thought so after seeing that circus unfold in his courtroom and what msnbc did and this guy is a liberal and was appointed by a Democrat and just because he followed the Constitution and law as written he gets death threats. Yeah, it has become a sick place sadly.

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We will instead go with your way of procedure and convict people based on feelings and opinions.

Which. I guess would be better than backing people based on how extreme their racism goes.

Sounds like you have issues from within your own party.

Something to do with democracy, which your boys tried to overthrow on Jan 6th!!!!

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Stop playing lawyer and the fantasies that go with it.

We will instead go with your way of procedure and convict people based on feelings and opinions. The World would be a much better place. Democrat governor, judge and potus yet things didn't go the way YOU wanted them. Sounds like you have issues from within your own party.

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The real one to watch is the Ahmaud Armery case going on in Georgia

if those guys walk, the games over.

if those guys walk, i'll join the protest myself.

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From a previous JT article: "On the night of the shootings, law enforcement officers saw Rittenhouse and other armed people on the streets despite a curfew and gave them bottles of water, with one officer heard saying over a loudspeaker, 'We appreciate you guys.'"

Whatever else, it is obviously true that the police disobeyed curfew and allowed armed people to roam. Instead of telling people to go home they declared over a loudspeaker that their illegal presence was appreciated. That is the presence of the right-wing thugs was appreciated.

Had the cops acted intelligently and used their loudspeaker to tell people to go home this monstrous loss of human life would likely not happened.

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2020hindsights,

fair enough. I'd respond to that last sentence but that's a much larger discussion- one which tends to get threads shut down pretty quickly. Anyway, thanks for the talk.

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SophiaHernandez

I'm not disagreeing that that the law was applied as it is written. In fact, that's the saddest part of this whole case. That he didn't break any law. Guns in the US will continue to make people's lives more unsafe.

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all it proves is what an absolute mess The United States of America is.

The real one to watch is the Ahmaud Armery case going on in Georgia

if those guys walk, the games over.

I remember when people used to admire the US, now it's just view Ed bemused contempt.

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The fact that someone arming themselves and looking for trouble can claim self defense shows how bad the gun laws have got in the US. It's returning to the wild west.

fair comment. but let's look at a subsection of Wisconsin law on self-defense:

"A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm."

agree or disagree with it, i think it applied here.

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TokyoJoe

The US, where someone can get a gun, go looking for trouble, kill 2 people, injure another, say it was only 'self-defense' and get off.

He didn't go looking for trouble as the judge and jury concluded,

Umm yeah, he did. If he didn't, he wouldn't have been there with a gun.

he shot nobody that did not endanger his life.

Nobody that he 'felt' endangered his life. And sure, those guys there with guns as well are just as much of the problem.

What's so stupid is that citizens of the US think that by carrying guns in situations like this, they make it safer, when the opposite is the truth.

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So why did you say he carried a gun across state lines when he didn't. Stop peddling false narratives, it invalidates any of your views.

Stop playing lawyer and the fantasies that go with it.

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The friend bought the gun for Kyle as he couldn’t purchase it because he was underage!!!

and the friend has been charged with that. Wisconsin law allows minors to carry long-barreled firearms. it was intended to allow minors to hunt but doesn't specifically say that. in any case, the law doesn't apply a blanket ban on a 17-year-old carrying a firearm.

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What a fantastic turn of events. A great day for law abiding Americans everywhere.

Rittenhouse is a hero.

Remember the names of those who are sad because a pedophile and woman-beater are dead.

Remember them.

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Please read the testimony from the trial.

Rittenhouse and his friend, Dominick Black, testified that Black, who was 18 at the time, used Rittenhouse's money to purchase the weapon at a Wisconsin hardware store in May 2020. The two reportedly agreed that Black would keep the gun until Rittenhouse turned 18 in January 2021, according to court testimony. 

Secondly,

The contention that Rittenhouse, brought an AR-15 across state lines.

Rittenhouse lived about 20 minutes outside of Kenosha, in Antioch, Illinois. His Illinois residence added to media rumours that the Rittenhouse travelled to Wisconsin with his AR15 illegally.

The police confirmed this simply not to be the case

Rittenhouse drove himself from his home in Illinois to Kenosha on August 24, 2020, the day before he fatally shooting. Quote: The gun was already being stored at a house in Kenosha.

Although the question still remains, Rittenhouse in possession of the weapon constitute and illegal act due to the circumstances in the weapons purchase

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Kyle Rittenhouse is a medic with an AR-15. Joe Rogan is an infectious disease expert. Donald Trump is a stable genius. Welcome to the Upside Down.

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That boy had no business there,

Rittenhouse worked in the area, which was also not far from where his father lived. That makes it his business. Whether he should have been there is a matter for discussion.

Incidentally, what business did the rioters have there?

no idea of the ramifications of open carrying gun

Rittenhouse openly carried a conspicuous gun because he most likely held the naive belief that the appearance alone would deter others from attacking him.

Let us not forget that Gaige Grosskreutz was carrying a stolen Glock pistol, the production of which resulted in him being shot by Rittenhouse - in self-defense.

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ROFL, did you do any research before posting this? The friend bought the gun for Kyle as he couldn’t purchase it because he was underage!!!

So why did you say he carried a gun across state lines when he didn't. Stop peddling false narratives, it invalidates any of your views.

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The US, where someone can get a gun, go looking for trouble, kill 2 people, injure another, say it was only 'self-defense' and get off.

He didn't go looking for trouble as the judge and jury concluded, he shot nobody that did not endanger his life. He defended himself against lawless thugs and previously convicted criminals, one of whom was brandishing an illegal loaded Glock pistol and pointing it at him.

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SophiaHernandez

he shouldn't have been there. but he was, he was attacked, and he defended himself as the law says he can. case closed.

The fact that someone arming themselves and looking for trouble can claim self defense shows how bad the gun laws have got in the US. It's returning to the wild west.

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The song “Don’t take your guns to town” keeps ringing my head watching this unfold.

That boy had no business there, had no idea of the ramifications of open carrying gun had, and had no training to be in that type of situation.

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This is factually incorrect, the weapon did not cross state lines, it was given by a friend in the state who wanted is property protecting. Do you even do the slightest bit if research before jumping to conclusions.

ROFL, did you do any research before posting this? The friend bought the gun for Kyle as he couldn’t purchase it because he was underage!!!

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Kyle Rittenhouse had his mommy drive him across state lines with a military weapon to hunt humans.

the US miltary uses M4s and M249s. Both automatic weapons. Rittenhouse had a semi-automatic Smith & Wesson.

he shouldn't have been there. but he was, he was attacked, and he defended himself as the law says he can. case closed.

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The US, where someone can get a gun, go looking for trouble, kill 2 people, injure another, say it was only 'self-defense' and get off.

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Here: knock yourself out:

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/12/kenosha-shooting/?amp=1

I suggest you read your link before posting anything!!!

A few statements without any prof.

Repeating lies don’t make them true!!!

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Kyle Rittenhouse had his mommy drive him across state lines with a military weapon to hunt humans.

This is factually incorrect, the weapon did not cross state lines, it was given by a friend in the state who wanted is property protecting. Do you even do the slightest bit if research before jumping to conclusions.

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Kyle really does lie. Said on the witness stand he is enrolled at the University of Arizona studying nursing. He signed up in Oct for an on line 1 pre open course & has not even gone through the admission process & is not enrolled in school of nursing. he did get his GED online

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Considering none of that is true my take is that the right wing believes any lies that are fed to them. 

Here: knock yourself out:

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/12/kenosha-shooting/?amp=1

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Kyle Rittenhouse had his mommy drive him across state lines with a military weapon to hunt humans.

He was 'defending' nothing and no one.

His victims were and are exactly that. Victims. 

Not "arsonists" or "looters". Victims. Of a racist, anti-Semitic, inhuman mass murderer.

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What I have taken away from this is that a man fired into a crowd of Liberals and the first three people he hit included a career criminal, a man who physically abused his wife, and a paedophile. I mean wow. Holy Cow Batman.

Considering none of that is true my take is that the right wing believes any lies that are fed to them.

None of these men ever killed anyone and Kyle killed 2.

Quite clear who the criminal is!!!

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The prosecution over played their hand. They through the book at Rittenhouse.

That in a court of law under a ridged system of judge lead jurist prudence, Rittenhouse would have a high percentage of acquittal.

When Is It Self-Defense and When Is It Manslaughter?

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/when-is-it-self-defense-and-when-is-it-manslaughter-40325

This is where the Prosecution case should have been built.

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This is a very important outcome. It will change the course of BLM/Antifa riots. People will have a feeling of not being intimidated by these mobs anymore. And consequently, police will have to make their presence more strongly. So state governors ( virtually always Democrats in these situations) will have to change their directions.

This is good!

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That a teenager could travel across state lines to a protest he had nothing to do with; shoot three people, killing two; and face no criminal consequences is a miscarriage of justice and an indictment of our criminal justice system," Watts said.

Couldn’t have put it better!

kyle is a criminal and will commit crimes again. It will also encourage other supremacists to go on lynching sprees.

As the incident at Atlanta airport shows, irresponsible people have access to guns and people will get hurt and die as a result!!!

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Rittenhouse is not in any possible manner of logical thinking a hero.

Rittenhouse, may I contend/suggest committed an alleged act of manslaughter.

Rittenhouse when in procession of that firearm. set that day/night an unfolding chain of events that led to the slayings.

Rittenhouse must withdraw from any media activity. Or else he will find himself in a lake of poo up to his nose.

There is no notion of, forgive and forget here.

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Justice is served, thankfully the rule of law is still upheld rather than trial by Twitter or CNN. Nobody should be surprised by the result.

Hitting someone in the head with a skateboard is GBH with intent and brandishing a loaded Glock pistol, pointing at someone and then running at them is a hostile threat that can be defended.

The rioting attackers who were killed were of dubious criminal backgrounds, one in particular had multiple arrests for child sex offenses.

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Cia68,if you are a gun owner, you are most likely to use it own yourself, than others, he had no judicial powers Google Gun Owners Suicide

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This trial verdict is very important because, for one thing, it informs leftists that they cannot continue to 

Yes, but it also tells us that if the police had been doing their job, Rittenhouse would not have been there.

What I have taken away from this is that a man fired into a crowd of Liberals and the first three people he hit included a career criminal, a man who physically abused his wife, and a paedophile. I mean wow. Holy Cow Batman.

Time for a little self-reflection for some, methinks.

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It is the role of the Police force and if deem necessary the national guard to defend Kenosha, its people/law abiding citizens, property.

Not a seventeen-year-old brandishing an assault rifle.

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A nation must accept/respect the chosen criminal justice system that exists to enforce a legal code, law enforcement, courts and corrections.

Prosecutors countered by arguing the then 17-year-old Rittenhouse "provoked" the events on a chaotic night sparked when a white policeman shot a Black man, Jacob Blake, in the back several times during an arrest, leaving him paralyzed.

Rittenhouse at the time of the shooting was a minor.

Under the law, a child. This show trial should never had been made public. Joe Biden made a serious error of judgement.

Before the trail had commenced, Biden foolishly and irresponsibility. compared the then 17-year-old Rittenhouse to white supremacists.

There is little doubt, the events that led up to, 17-year-old Rittenhouse in possession of a AR15 assault rifle is highly disturbing. The shootings are the terrifying result.

Rittenhouse, would do well to just disappear from public view.

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This trial verdict is very important because, for one thing, it informs leftists that they cannot continue to burn down cities and attack people with impunity. When a Democratic-run city like Kenosha won’t let its police force maintain order, brave Patriots like Rittenhouse will step up. Notice that there haven’t been anymore riots in Kenosha since this incident.

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In comments broadcast by Fox News,

Yes, of course. And crybaby tough guy will show up on propagandist provocateur Tucker Carlson’s show next week. He will be anointed a hero by Tucker. What a sick place America has become.

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Rittenhouse may be getting a visit by the Fed, for possessing an illegal firearms, he has already confess to buying a gun, he was not legal entitled too, by having illegal access to gun, his conspirator goes on trial next,in a federal civil action, the burden of proof is small, and jury usually rule for the plaintiff, he has no case for personal defamation, even in Texas, he would of been convicted,

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