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Tough relationship to manage.

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I think it's time for people to understand that China does not fear the US. That's a realistic starting point for any negotiation.

Real life is not a like a John Wayne Hollywood movie.

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Real life is not a like a John Wayne Hollywood movie.

No it isn't. But Xi-Row (ZERO) had better listen up and listen up good. Joe isn't going to kiss CCP fanny. And China needs to realize that it does not own or even have any legitimate claim over Taiwan.

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But Xi-Row (ZERO) had better listen up and listen up good.

Now that's a statement! They should use it as an opening remark at this summit. China will come to its senses at once, I'm sure.

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starpunkToday  02:29 pm JST

Real life is not a like a John Wayne Hollywood movie.

No it isn't. But Xi-Row (ZERO) had better listen up and listen up good. Joe isn't going to kiss CCP fanny. And China needs to realize that it does not own or even have any legitimate claim over Taiwan.

Uh, that sounds just like something John Wayne would say in a Hollywood movie...

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chinas business has been War, for centuries….this whole world contamination is just part of the master plan into the next century…wake up people

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And China needs to realize that it does not own or even have any legitimate claim over Taiwan.

Taiwan was under Qing rule since the 1600s, so it's not as if China and Taiwan don't share common history. But I guess it's ok for America to invade the islands of the Pacific. They might as well have assassinated the last Queen of Hawaii. And don't get me started on the other western colonies that still exist today.

But Xi-Row (ZERO) had better listen up and listen up good.

I bet Xi is really shaking in his boots. China has learnt that it's not a nice feeling being force-fed opium or being treated as second citizens or coolies in their own carved-up country. It is not, unlike its neighbour, going to kowtow to the white countries. It doesn't care about what America does in its own backyard - it just wants to make itself a better country where people no longer have to live in poverty or serfdom.

chinas business has been War

Apart from skirmishes around its borders, what wars are you talking about? Iraq? Kuwait? Afghanistan? Latin America? Yes, I can just see all those yellow peril military bases all over the world.

Just be quiet and let Biden and Xi get down to business.

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Xi doesn’t have to hear what Biden has to say, but I’m sure he would be wise to recognize that he is being put on notice!

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And the media and politicians have the gall to obsess over climate change, when China is gearing up for war.

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"The Asia-Pacific region cannot and should not relapse into the confrontation and division of the Cold War era."

That's right Xi. If you mean that all you have to do is back off from your aggressive behavior and attitude.

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Thank goodness we have a President and administration that confronts the CCP instead of lavishing them with praise (and clothing contracts)....

“One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country!"

Evidently the former President loves Xi's country also....

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That's right Xi. If you mean that all you have to do is back off from your aggressive behavior and attitude.

That's the problem, he won't. Japan must do two things quickly. First, Japan must hike its defense budget to 100 billion US a year. Second, Japan must acquire the ability to strike China and strike china hard.

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Japan must do two things quickly. First, Japan must hike its defense budget to 100 billion US a year. Second, Japan must acquire the ability to strike China and strike china hard.

Why would Japan need to do any of it and quickly? What would Japan gain from this "strike", which is a pretty unthought-through thing to suggest it the first place?

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And I'm sure that Xi will pay the criticism exactly how much attention it deserves, coming from the folks who are occupying part of Cuba and Syria, and all of Iraq, and subjecting Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon... to even greater pressures of the sorts it is criticizing China for, and abusing it's own population in Puerto Rico.

In other words, about as much attention as Biden pays Trump's criticisms about Biden's lies, misspeaks, etc

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Xinnie The Pooh : know this.

The free world has Taiwan's back. The US has stated this publicly. One move against Taiwan, and hell will be unleashed on the friendless PRC.

Despite their constant warlike-behaviour, China has never been tested in a real war. The US and allies would have them for breakfast.

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Peter NeilToday  02:03 pm JST

I think it's time for people to understand that China does not fear the US. 

Nope. If so they would have taken Taiwan decades ago. Or have used the PLA Navy around the Senkakus.

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The US failure in Afghanistan was because it was not a "war" directed at a uniformed national military force. The Chinese PLA most certainly is. Exactly what the largest military in the world is designed to destroy. Afghanistan has little to no value, whereas Taiwan is economically and strategically crucial to the US and it's allies. There is no comparison.

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Everyone seems centered on war when we need to shore up peace. The world which includes the US and China, have more than enough problems on their plate with ongoing covid, climate change that may end civilization everywhere, plastic pollution and more.

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This is the problem of the Chinese themselves. Busy bodies.

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"America has the most powerful military on the planet, according to the index, with a full score of 0.0718."

https://www.newsweek.com/most-powerful-military-forces-world-america-china-russia-1621130

Some people assume "largest" means the most people. It doesn't, it refers to the overall capability of which personnel is only one component. The same people can't fathom the diplomatic difference between sending law enforcement vessels and military vessels into a disputed territorial area. But then such people post solely to argue.

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Just be quiet and let Biden and Xi get down to business.

God help us.

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The aggressive, imperialistic policies of the CCP under Winnie the Pooh are the problem, not to mention the appalling things being done internally.

Pukey, by your argument China is a province of Mongolia. The reality is that Taiwan is a de facto independent democratic state and the indigenous Taiwanese are not Han Chinese. Very little of the last 500 years has Taiwan/Formosa been under Chinese rule, and the CCP government in Peking never has ruled there and has no valid claim to rule the Taiwanese people.

incidentally the Chinese claim to the Senkaku islands is founded on there spurious claim that Taiwan is a province, China has no claim in its own right.

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China's problem: Taiwan is self ruled and has not been part of "China" since 1949.

China's goal: Reunify Taiwan and mainland China.

China's options: Reunify peacefully or reunify through invasion and war.

Taiwan's population: Less than two percent want reunification under CCP rule. Less than six percent want to declare independence, with most preferring to maintain the current status quo where Taiwan operates independently of China.

China prefers peaceful reunification but has so far not offered Taiwan incentive enough to WANT to be part of China. Some nations in Europe want to be part of the EU or part of NATO. They can join the EU by reaching certain requirements and they do not lose their independent local rule but do have to follow the EU rules that effect all in that union.

China's one country two systems has been ended as a failure and now all public dissent is silenced.

With nothing to offer Taiwan but subservience and less personal freedoms and less choice with no way to change ineffective or unwanted leadership.

China must transform itself into something that the people of Taiwan WANT to become a part of. So far China offers hostility for non compliance with it's wishes and forced reunification. It cant tempt Taiwan's people without change, and under CCP rule they seem unwilling to change in the direction needed for a peaceful joining.

China will know it is on the correct track when Taiwan approaches it asking to be part of China.

Until then, China needs to look at itself and its future with impartial eyes and make changes that encourage others to want to be part of it's future out of admiration. Fear will not work to recruit loyal enthusiastic membership.

The world will alway's watch China and be critical of what it perceives as wrong actions, as it does with the US. Choose the carrot not the stick.

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zichiToday  09:27 pm JST

The US Military was defeated by terrorists in Afghanistan. What would have happened if they had been a "proper army?"

One of the funnier things I've read today.

Ok--so what about the UK, Canada, Germany, Italian, Australian, and other forces who ofught in the Afghanistan War? Were they defeated too? Why do you point out the US only? Some blatant underlying jealousy there, eh mate?

So if the US was defeated, then they surrendered, right? When did they surrender? How did they surrender?

Do you really know what you are talking about?

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No it isn't. But Xi-Row (ZERO) had better listen up and listen up good. Joe isn't going to kiss CCP fanny.

Yeah, I'm quite sure Xi is just shaking in his boots if BIDEN were to give him that ultimatum.

And China needs to realize that it does not own or even have any legitimate claim over Taiwan.

China will NEVER, EVER realize anything if the US is militarily weak and verbal threats aren't coming its way. I Biden really wants to get Xi's attention, the US should help Taiwan and arm it to the teeth and recognize it as an independent nation, not only would that get China's attention, it would get the world's attention.

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"The defeat in Afghanistan is, like that in Vietnam, a turning-point. Many fear America’s foes will be emboldened; others hope it will now be more able to confront them"

The way we left Afghanistan didn't have to end like that, the way we left was beyond devastating and demoralizing and people will never forget or forgive this President for doing that, he not only botched it but emboldened our foe that we fought and died for over 20 years, left them our best hardware, he won't do anything on our Southern border and the Chinese are watching all of this, they're not dumb and they know especially as long as there is a Democratic President in the White House, they won't do anything other than give bloated speeches and make loose threats, if at all. They saw what happened in Crimea and they know if they were to attack Taiwan, this admin would give them the same response as back then.

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https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1459912245497020426?s=21

And Biden is doing what exactly to thwart this? Our adversaries are seeing a pattern here. Putin tried this once before and what makes you think Xi is not going to try and take the same approach?

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On the subject of the relative strengths of the American and Chinese militaries, it isn't their absolute size (either manpower or weaponpower) that matters, but rather what they (and by they, I mean not just them, but them plus formal allies, informal allies, objective sharing rivals, and opportunistic independents) can dedicate to the conflict that matters.

And a lot of the vast American military resources aren't available (or rather aren't seen by the US as being available) because they're 'deterrence' forces, while practically all of the Chinese forces are freely available.

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The coming confrontation over Taiwan is not going to end peacefully. Get yourself mentally prepared because there's some significant pain coming to some countries and people, both militarily and economically.

Most of you have never experienced what's coming.

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Move the US military from Okinawa to Taiwan, show some backbone USA!

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YuriOtaniToday  04:01 am JST

Move the US military from Okinawa to Taiwan, show some backbone USA!

US had bases in Taiwan until the late 70s. But why move from Okinawa? We have an agreement to provide security for Japan. Japan wants US bases in Okinawa. Okinawa wants US bases in Okinawa. And part of the reason for US bases in Okinawa is to provide monitoring on China's military, and also to serve as a deterrence to China taking action against Taiwan, so there is no need for US bases to be in Taiwan.

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Peter Neil

The coming confrontation over Taiwan is not going to end peacefully. Get yourself mentally prepared because there's some significant pain coming to some countries and people, both militarily and economically.

It wont be peaceful for Taiwan, but since neither the current US nor Japan governments have the will to help Taiwan, it will not affect us.... in short term. In the langer term of course caving in the CCP will have grave consequences for us.

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Guess the American military never received the memo?

Read James Mattis book and you will understand how politicians in the US and the State Department undercut the military in Afghanistan and Iraq. Mattis lead an amphibious assault from ships in the North Arabian Sea to southern Afghanistan (longest amphibious assault in history and the first using only airlift) taking a dirt airfield they called Rino right in the enemies rear. They were less than a days march from the Taliban stronghold in Kandahar but the Army prevailed on DoD "leadership" to force Mattis Marines to sit still and not attack Kandahar. He was eventually ordered to abandon Rino, which infuriated him. Mattis was ready to commit Marines to fight at Tora Bora but the State Department and other political "leaders" in the DoD wanted to include a notionally allied Afghan militia in the fight. Unfortunately that very same militia was bought off by Bin Laden who threw more money at them than the US was offering and Bin Laden was allowed to escape into Pakistan. He would not have bought off the Marines. He'd have bought the farm. Likewise Mattis was constrained from attacking a well known terrorist organization operating from a mosque in Falluja for political reasons. Weeks wasted and hundreds killed by terrorists waiting on permission to attack them all because "leaders" feared it wouldn't look good. I could go on. Read Mattis book and learn.

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The ambiguity so many of you detest is written into US public law, specifically the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act. Examples, the act no longer recognizes the "Republic of China" and forbids using that wording, replacing it with "governing authorities on Taiwan". Regarding defense the act states "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities". The act requires the United States to have a policy "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." The act further states the US will "consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States". That is why when Mr. Biden said the US would come to Taiwan's defense in the event of a Chinese invasion the diplomats told him to walk it back because he overstepped the bounds of the Taiwan Relations Act.

Congress is currently debating granting the President limited authority to use military force to defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion. Many in Congress want to end the ambiguity and are debating how to word such a law in a way that does not itself cause a war or lead to a complete break with the Chinese.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/05/congress-biden-taiwan-519689

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I think Xi is itching for a fight. He wants a shooting confrontation with US, Japan, Australia, UK et al.

Nothing will unite 1.4 billion Chinese behind him faster or better than standing toe-to-toe with the US Navy and punching them in the nose. He'd elevated to Mao status by all Chinese if he sunk a few JNSDF ships. The US Navy has a long history of being highly aggressive in blue water.

Don't underestimate the power of a nice little war to make a leader beloved by a nation.

I'm serious. Some of you think it will never happen, but I say you're wrong. Maybe it's time some of you open your eyes to the real possibility of being in the way of danger.

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I'm serious. Some of you think it will never happen, but I say you're wrong. Maybe it's time some of you open your eyes to the real possibility of being in the way of danger.

Xi might be stupid enough to try the US Navy on, but they won't like the outcome very much and it would be the end of Xi Jinping. It is not like the US Navy has been sitting still. I think the PLAN knows this too.

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Desert TortoiseToday  10:19 am JST

Xi might be stupid enough to try the US Navy on, but they won't like the outcome very much and it would be the end of Xi Jinping. It is not like the US Navy has been sitting still. I think the PLAN knows this too.

Maybe yes and maybe no.

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OssanAmericaNov. 14  04:01 pm JST

"The Asia-Pacific region cannot and should not relapse into the confrontation and division of the Cold War era."

That's right Xi. If you mean that all you have to do is back off from your aggressive behavior and attitude.

Xi is just shooting off his big yap. If he really means that he needs to shut up. This is a new era now.

lincolnmanNov. 14  05:03 pm JST

Thank goodness we have a President and administration that confronts the CCP instead of lavishing them with praise (and clothing contracts)....

“One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country!"

Evidently the former President loves Xi's country also....

Joe isn't an Einstein but he isn't stupid. He is nobody's Neville Chamberlin.

bass4funkToday  12:56 am JST

"The defeat in Afghanistan is, like that in Vietnam, a turning-point. Many fear America’s foes will be emboldened; others hope it will now be more able to confront them"

The way we left Afghanistan didn't have to end like that, the way we left was beyond devastating and demoralizing and people will never forget or forgive this President for doing that, he not only botched it but emboldened our foe that we fought and died for over 20 years, left them our best hardware, he won't do anything on our Southern border and the Chinese are watching all of this,

Master Putin paid the Taliban bounties for US GI dead and his servant Traitor Trump said nothing, Trump is a collaborator and a Benedict Arnold. It made the US presence in Afghanistan untenuable, the original cause and reason for the war no longer existed. And Joe is right, are we going to send grandchildren of our soldiers there? It was long past time to leave. Like Somalia it was unwinnable.

And for that 'Southern Border Crisis', that's Trumpian newspeak. Since when is that lippy lying hateful sassybrat ever truthful about anything? You can't rely on or believe an obnoxious boorish clod like that.

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Xi is just shooting off his big yap.

And No one is stopping him, definitely NOT this President, but this is a new era now for the Chinese at this current moment.

Joe isn't an Einstein but he isn't stupid.

Xi and Putin think so judging by how they're not even paying attention to Biden, not even a little bit, but it was the exact same thing for Carter as well.

Master Putin paid the Taliban bounties for US GI dead and his servant Traitor Trump said nothing,

Funny how on the left they are so obsessed with Putin and Russia a country that has an economy the size of Wisconsin and all the while ignoring what the real threat is and that is Russia and No one in the Democrat party seems to realize that and that is to China's benefit.

Trump is a collaborator and a Benedict Arnold. It made the US presence in Afghanistan untenuable,

No, Tump put the Taliban on notice and wasn't afraid to use force if he had to, check Soleimani and El Baghdadi and he wasn't the one that left Afghanistan and left all of our weapons including 10.000 night vision goggles.

And for that 'Southern Border Crisis',

That's all Biden, none of them are wearing Trump shirts and all of them said, they would never take this moment to enter the US were he still President. So in hindsight for the Chinese and Russians seeing history how Obama did nothing regarding Crimea and now with Bejing, if I were Xi, why would I not waste a precious moment and strike to annex Taiwan and go after all of the US interests? This is the perfect moment.

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*Biden has largely kept the tougher approach on Beijing of his predecessor Donald Trump*, with both administrations considering a rising China as the top challenge of the 21st century.

Impossible! if that were the case the Chinese wouldn't be postering themselves into a seemingly growing militaristic buildup and the same goes for Russia as well.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-not-afraid-extreme-competition-us-under-joe-biden-state-media-1567835

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/joe-biden-worries-that-china-might-win/

The same posters that were slobbering all over Trump’s China policy are now decrying that same policy simply because the president is a democrat.

No, because he is doing the same weak thing Obama and Carter did, at least to Bill Clinton's credit, he had zero compunction to use military force with or without congressional approval. Both China and Russia know this all too well.

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None of this refutes the fact Thats Biden is largely following Trump’s approach to China.

No, he's not, No straight talk, No threats, Nothing, again, read the article, China is not afraid of Biden and Putin as well.

Literally nothing in the Newsweek (which your routinely criticize as biased, liberal MSM trash) article or the opinion piece (not actual evidence of anything) you cited contradicts Biden following Trump’s China policy.

Well, he is not. Do you see Xir or Putin slowing down? I don't and he is only doubling down, both of them actually.

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https://nypost.com/2021/11/13/build-back-better-would-be-utter-poison-for-struggling-economy/

Manchin thinks so

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/11/02/president_biden__no_i_am_not_worried_about_armed_conflict_with_china.html

Why would he even say that after what happened in Afghanistan, even Gen. Milley is deeply concerned, I would think he would know more than Biden and if he's deeply concerned and Biden is not, knowing Biden how he views these complex issues, I will go with Milley"s judgment on this.

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