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Vaccination campaign picks up speed around the world

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why this article doesn't mention Japan and the fact that they are also too slow to start vaccinating.

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and no word that first in world was Russia with own vaccines available for months....but yes we dont need to know anything extra....possibly you have never heard abt "sputnik vaccine"?so yes just google it...

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A world tragedy for my antivaxxer looooooseeeeers !!!..

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why this article doesn't mention Japan and the fact that they are also too slow to start vaccinating.

Maybe because the article is in the "World section" of the website and because it's not about Japan?

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The topic of having different vaccines available is interesting. How does that work on the ground level?

Are recipients given a choice of vaccine type? What is the difference between these medicines?

And if there are different vaccines for the same bug, why is that? How does a recipient make a decision on his or her options when all these different experimental vaccines are being dispensed so fast?

They never cured the common cold or flu (regardless of seasonal flu shots), and now we get multiple types of vaccines for a complex bug that has provided a convenient reason for global governments to exercise more authority.

I think that every politician should get in line first (in front of their national news cameras) , roll up their sleeves, and receive their vaccine dose of choice. Let’s watch them lead by example.

After all, aren’t these politicians all essential service? They keep telling us so, don’t they? I suggest we test them out in their claims.

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The slow rollout has been blamed on mismanagement, staffing shortages over the holidays and a complex consent policy designed to accommodate vaccine skepticism among the French.

Vaccine development for COVID-19 has been a huge technological success for humanity, but some people will always hold to their irrational fears and try to sway perfectly rational people with false arguments and opinions disguised as facts. It is sad that this complicates the delivery of the vaccine for those that can understand how it reduces their risks.

They never cured the common cold or flu (regardless of seasonal flu shots), and now we get multiple types of vaccines for a complex bug that has provided a convenient reason for global governments to exercise more authority.

The vaccines already have proven efficacy and safety, the virus does not have a natural recombination mechanism like influenza, being convenient is the whole purpose of developing something.

More importantly, If the vaccine is safe obviously politicians know it and will not hesitate to receive it, and if the vaccine is not, that would mean a huge world-wide conspiracy involving literally thousands of scientists and health care professionals can fake the human trials results to make it appear trustworthy even to people whose career consist on picking up studies to find problems, how difficult would it be for this huge conspiracy to change the contents of a syringe?

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@Tx: Good thoughts.

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Israel is leading the way with its mass vaccinations and probably will be the first to inject the whole nation.

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and no word that first in world was Russia with own vaccines available for months....but yes we dont need to know anything extra

As you know Matej, anything that comes out of Russia is bad, unproven and unsafe, ( ditto China ) especially if its in competition with our good, freedom loving, western vaccines ( and all kinds of medicine really ).

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I think that every politician should get in line first...

That's what several political leaders, like Biden and Harris, have already done to set an example. All politicians getting it early would be a scandal, in light that more urgent cases, like the elderly and diabetics, should be getting it first. Not sure what your point is.

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Israel is leading the way with its mass vaccinations and probably will be the first to inject the whole nation.

Everone except the people on the west bank and the Muslims in Israel.

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Wait and see .........

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Everyone except the people on the west bank and the Muslims in Israel.

Yes I thought about that. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/03/palestinians-excluded-from-israeli-covid-vaccine-rollout-as-jabs-go-to-settlers

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"Vaccination campaign picks up speed around the world"

yeah right, the US and the west are basket cases. There have been numerous reports of screw ups and supply shortages in the usa and Europe.

Gov. Gavin Newsom explains why COVID-19 vaccine rollout is slow going

https://abc7.com/gavin-newsom-press-conference-governor-covid-update-california-coronavirus-ca/9347201/

Hillsborough County website crashes on first day of coronavirus vaccine registration

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/01/04/hillsborough-county-website-crashes-on-first-day-of-covid-19-vaccine-registration/

Germany mulls delaying second COVID-19 vaccine shot, Denmark approves delay

https://news.yahoo.com/germany-denmark-mull-delaying-second-144521622.html

and the list goes on. Japan is smart to wait and sort out the distribution first.

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Japan is smart to wait and sort out the distribution first.

Japan is not smart about distribution, its just waaay behind the curve as usual due to the dinosaurs in charge.

Yet again... don,t make us laugh , the LDP government ( both Shinzo and the cold tuna )has been the most indecisive and fence sitting ones anywhere...almost deserving an Olympic medal, pun intended.

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The vaccines already have proven efficacy and safety

Yeah, they decrease symptoms and they are unlikely to immediately give you anything serious, but nobody knows what can pop up later...

Even Alain Fischer, who proposed the concept of gene therapy says we should be very cautious with the mRNA vaccines (they are a form of gene therapy).

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Reads like a press release straight out of GAVI.

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Iran's coronavirus vax is much safer than the crap being pushed on Americans. Iran's vaccine is an inactivated vaccine, meaning that it is made of a coronavirus that has been weakened or killed by chemicals, similar to how polio immunizations are made. And they expect it to be effective against viral mutations as well.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-begins-human-trials-for-locally-made-coronavirus-vaccine/

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and the list goes on. Japan is smart to wait and sort out the distribution first.

That is assuming it is sorting out the distribution right now, it is entirely possible the same problems of other countries will happen also in Japan, just a few months later.

Yeah, they decrease symptoms and they are unlikely to immediately give you anything serious, but nobody knows what can pop up later...

As opposed to the natural infection for which we already have evidence that it gives infected people serious problems in the short, medium and long term. At this point vaccines are in comparison much safer even taking in account what may appear in the future, because COVID-19 already showed negative effects that can last for life, the approved vaccines haven't.

Even Alain Fischer, who proposed the concept of gene therapy says we should be very cautious with the mRNA vaccines (they are a form of gene therapy).

That is incorrect. mRNA therapy is a tool, that can be used for gene therapy (for modification of the expression of proteins as ASO or RNAi) but also for other purposes, like helping in the production of proteins necessary to the body, as anticancer agents or as vaccines against infections, these are not "gene therapy" (else using attenuated vaccines would also be). Alain Fischer wholly supports vaccinations with the available vaccines, including those that use mRNA.

On his own words.

*Faced with the risk of severe side-effects, Alain Fischer answers “yes, there will be side effects” but he reminds the risk-advantage ratio of vaccines. “Are advantages expected to protect from a potentially serious disease very higher to the possible risk of a pathology related to vaccine?” According to the doctor, “small margins of uncertainties are still there but according to the partial data we have, this risk is very low”.*

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This article make me crave for the vaccine though I wonder how effective it is in preventing and what other unknown chemicals are in that needle

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Faced with the risk of severe side-effects, Alain Fischer answers “yes, there will be side effects” but he reminds the risk-advantage ratio of vaccines. “Are advantages expected to protect from a potentially serious disease very higher to the possible risk of a pathology related to vaccine?” According to the doctor, “small margins of uncertainties are still there but according to the partial data we have, this risk is very low”.

So if one is in a group that is predisposed to have serious side effects from Covid19, indeed you might want to consider getting the vaccine. But most of us will be fine without it.

Iran's vaccine is an inactivated vaccine, meaning that it is made of a coronavirus that has been weakened or killed by chemicals, similar to how polio immunizations are made.

Yeah, traditional vaccines have a much more established history, compared to these new experimental mRNA gene therapies. But I am concerned by those traditional vaccines because they are produced in cultures of either human embryonic cells, monkey cells, or perhaps eggs. Who knows what is injected into you with the inactivated or weakened virus. Some have claimed that HIV was spread by a vaccine produced in a monkey cell culture (HIV was a monkey virus).

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I fully respect the right of people not to believe in vaccines... But then I ask them complete coherence with their thought process. If you believe vaccines are dangerous, you should believe all modern medicine is dangerous. From antibiotics to chemotherapy. If you don't trust scientists and doctors in regards to vaccines, you shouldn't trust them for anything else and therefore never step foot in a hospital again.

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Iran's coronavirus vax is much safer than the crap being pushed on Americans. Iran's vaccine is an inactivated vaccine, meaning that it is made of a coronavirus that has been weakened or killed by chemicals, similar to how polio immunizations are made. And they expect it to be effective against viral mutations as well.

Incorrect, inactivated vaccines have much higher risks, not only because they include extra proteins that can trigger allergic or autoimmune reactions (the nuclear protein is one frequent example), but also because for highly pathogenic coronaviruses they bias the immune response towards a pathological inflammatory reaction, meaning that people vaccinated have a higher risk of getting an immune response that damages the tissues and produces heavier complications or even death.

There is no real possibility for an inactivated vaccine to be better at preventing viral mutations, every protein of the virus can change and escape the immunity, from the many antigens possible the spike is one that is more strongly fixed because the virus depends on it to infect efficiently. Any viral strain that could change so much that escapes the immunity from the mRNA vaccine can also do the same with inactivated virus vaccines.

So if one is in a group that is predisposed to have serious side effects from Covid19, indeed you might want to consider getting the vaccine. But most of us will be fine without it.

That is false, he made no distinction because even healthy young people benefit of a reduced risk with the vaccine when compared with the natural infection. Most people will be interested on having a much reduced risk instead of betting on being "fine".

Some have claimed that HIV was spread by a vaccine produced in a monkey cell culture (HIV was a monkey virus).

And some have claimed the moon is made of cheese, none of those people have any evidence of their claims, and there is plenty of evidence that prove they are wrong.

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most of us will be fine without it.

And the rest will die. Painfully, gasping for breath.

I'm sure their families will be sad.

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StrangerlandToday 12:02 pm JST

most of us will be fine without it.

And the rest will die. Painfully, gasping for breath.

I'm sure their families will be sad.

Raw Beer never said the rest should die. What was simply said is that if one is predisposed to serious side effects, then getting the vaccine is something to be considered. As Mark Twain said "Get the facts first, then you can distort them anyway you please".

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@asiafriend

Yes, exactly. I am used to posters misrepresenting my posts. Makes it easier for them to criticize or "refute" them.

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The faster that more people become resistant to Covid, the sooner the world can get back to normal

Nobody wants the Covid crisis to last even longer

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