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Vaccinations rise in some U.S. states with soaring infections

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Do you kind of get a sick feeling that this same scenario is about to be play itself out here in Japan within the next few months? 

Next few months? I'm guessing in the next 2 or 3 weeks.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Nope. This is her quote:

Unfortunately for you, she talked more.

*"A few days later when I call time of death, I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same," Cobia wrote.*

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/22/health/hospitalized-patients-covid-19-vaccine/index.html

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

bass4funk

You are completely contradicting yourself:

if you believe the vaccines are safe, of course you’re entitled to your own opinion, I don’t have to agree with that.

No. But you do have to look at the numbers.

According to whom?

Sure, you don't need to use facts to form an opinion.

Yeah, I do

3 ( +4 / -1 )

In the event of Yan Limeng, through the publicity attribute of social media, the cultural propaganda offensive from Guo Wengui and Ban Nong made immeasurable loss in the process of resisting the epidemic all over the world.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Your linked article is nearly 1 year old?????????????

My bad. Here you go.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/13/coronavirus-delta-variant-nevada-outbreak-health-workers

It's also a subscription site.

From Bezos's own personal Newspaper

Liberals can afford it

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

Blacklabel

Nope. she said she signed the death certificates of these “young people”who were “begging too late to get the vaccine”. Her quote specifically mentions time of death.

Nope. This is her quote:

“I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,” wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”

Misinformation.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Vaccinations rise in some U.S. states with soaring infections

There is no contradiction, as the injected can also be infected. In fact, 40% of new reported cases in the UK are "breakthrough" cases, i.e. cases of vaccinated people.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Nope. she said she signed the death certificates of these “young people”who were “begging too late to get the vaccine”. Her quote specifically mentions time of death.

misinformation.

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No. But you do have to look at the numbers.

I did as well as other troubling numbers of the virus rising among vaccinated people.

Sure, you don't need to use facts to form an opinion.

Yeah, I do. I’m from a free nation with the absolute right to believe what I want when I want or to scrutinize and question the powers that be to ask opposing questions or opinions to the people that want to force feed me what they want.

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Blacklabel

zero under 15.

12 deaths- age 15-24

41 deaths- age 25-29

So thats few to zero for the total age group of UNDER 30. zero for the one group and 12 and 41 for the others

Firstly, under 60 would be considered "young" in this context. And secondly she didn't say young people were all dying, she said "admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections".

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Not what Biden said.

There will be a small percentage of fully vaccinated people who still get sick, are hospitalized, or die from COVID-19.

>

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

So are the CDC right wing antivaxxer nuts now too???

Clearly not, as indicated in the first point in the link you provided.

Vaccine breakthrough cases are expected. COVID-19 vaccines are effective and are a critical tool to bring the pandemic under control. However, no vaccines are 100% effective at preventing illness in vaccinated people. There will be a small percentage of fully vaccinated people who still get sick, are hospitalized, or die from COVID-19.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Just follow THE SCIENCE. Fauci and Joe have told us how to beat the virus. Its clearly working

3 ( +5 / -2 )

So thats few to zero for the total age group of UNDER 30. zero for the one group and 12 and 41 for the others.

Yes, but you've categorized them all under one group by saying "under 30" in your most recent comment. That is misinformation.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

So are the CDC right wing antivaxxer nuts now too???

Geez some of you people...

Put up links and the provaxxers crazies say they are bunk...don't put up links and the chicken little provaxxers say you are full of it.

Vaccinate the people who are at most risk and move on. There is ZERO long term side effect data for any of these PROVISIONALLY approved vaccines. Unless you are over 70 or have a secondary illness that puts you at high risk of serious illness or death, anyone with half a brain cell can see, there is no reason to risk getting vaccinated until there is more data.

While more contagious the delta variant is doing what most viruses do the longer they are in the community and that is becoming LESS virulent.

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zero under 15.

12 deaths- age 15-24

41 deaths- age 25-29

So thats few to zero for the total age group of UNDER 30. zero for the one group and 12 and 41 for the others.

You're absolutely trying to misinform with the words you yourself choose. If you had left off the "zero" I wouldn't have pulled you up on that.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

From that exact article.

The agency has endured false accusations and interference by Trump administration political appointees. 

Yeah, bass has the fascinating habit of posting links to articles that directly contradict him. Still, it's better then his link to alt-right propaganda machines.

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she said young people are dying to try to get the emotional response article for CNN to push vaccination.

Are people in their 30's considered young? Usually they would be. Particularly in the field of medicine.

You've also just commented the following.

Few to zero people under 30 died in Alabama from COVID.

Yet in your earlier comment

only 41 deaths even 24-29.

You're absolutely trying to misinform with the words you yourself choose. If you had left off the "zero" I wouldn't have pulled you up on that.

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bass4funk

if you believe the vaccines are safe, of course you’re entitled to your own opinion, I don’t have to agree with that.

No. But you do have to look at the numbers.

According to whom?

Sure, you don't need to use facts to form an opinion. And that alone explains a lot.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

 From Bezos's own personal Newspaper

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/28/cdc-under-attack/

From that exact article.

The agency has endured false accusations and interference by Trump administration political appointees. 

8 ( +9 / -1 )

she said young people are dying to try to get the emotional response article for CNN to push vaccination.

I showed that is not the case by CDC data. Few to zero people under 30 died in Alabama from COVID.

So according to this doctor- the "young" people who she claimed are dying would have to be people 30 or older.

Few under that age died and the chance that they would have been her patient for these made up stories are very unlikely.

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

so "young" people are 30+ now? 

misinformation, much?

Yes that is misinformation. Saying "People in their 30s are young" is completely different from saying what you said which is ""young" people are 30+"

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Yes. It is misinformation. The vaccine works remarkably well. 

It does and there are more side effects now associated with it

But you have no facts. Just, "I disagree." Great argument.

I do and have sent posted them and you can look everywhere online and on Youtube and see all of the leading medical experts that give opposing points of view on the vaccine.

The numbers the CDC and other authorities report.

From Bezos's own personal Newspaper

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/28/cdc-under-attack/

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

You're wrong about the zero deaths, too, but that will surprise no one.

No I am actually not wrong about that.

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku/data

State of Alabama, zero COVID deaths under the age of 15.

only 41 deaths even 24-29. so "young" people are 30+ now?

misinformation, much?

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

bass4funk

The number of vaccinated people getting the virus is growing because the number of people getting vaccinated is growing. If 100% of people got vaccinated then the percentage of people getting the virus would be 100%.

I disagree.

Sorry, I missed a word out: *If 100% of people got vaccinated then the percentage of vaccinated people getting the virus would be 100%.*

You can't disagree with that. By definition it's true.

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Yeah brilliant response about why children have to be vaccinated-

That’s underway, just like the other question is illogical, and I’ve heard you speak about it, because you always, I’m not being solicitous, but you’re always straight up about what you’re doing,” Biden continued. “And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where you, uh, um, are, why can’t the, the, the experts say we know that this virus is, in fact, uh, um, uh, it’s going to be, or excuse me, we, we know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved, but permanently approved, that’s underway, too, I expect that to occur quickly.

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

Joe was brilliant on the topic of vaccines in the CNN townhall. Clear, concise and compelling. My guess is that rates of vaccination will spike once people see and hear his message.

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Well if a vaccine is 95% effective and 100 people get vaccinated then 5 people would still get COVID. If 1,000 people were vaccinated then 50 people would still get COVID.

Only an idiot would use that data to say the vaccine is dangerous because "the more people vaccinated, the more vaccinated people get COVID."

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It's pretty simple. Having the vaccine is more effective at protecting you against the virus than not having the vaccine. As 2020hindsights puts it, if 100% of people are vaccinated, then 100% of people contracting the virus would be vaccinated. Disagreeing with that makes no difference to it being the reality. Just like if 100% of people were unvaccinated, 100% of people contracting the virus would be unvaccinated. Of course the numbers will be different when the populations aren't so clearly defined, but as more people take the vaccine you will of course see more vaccinated people being among the numbers of covid infections. That's just simple math.

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I disagree.

Present your evidence, better if that is already peer reviewed and the methods to reach the conclusions validated. Else the opinion of experts that explicitly support this explanation would make your disagreement irrelevant.

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No, it's not.

Yes. It is misinformation. The vaccine works remarkably well.

I disagree.

But you have no facts. Just, "I disagree." Great argument.

According to whom?

The numbers the CDC and other authorities report.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

No. That's just a misinformed parsing of the facts.

No, it's not.

The number of vaccinated people getting the virus is growing because the number of people getting vaccinated is growing. If 100% of people got vaccinated then the percentage of people getting the virus would be 100%.

I disagree.

No. But you do have to look at the numbers.

According to whom?

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bass4funk

If that is entirely true then why are the number of vaccinated people getting the virus growing and why are more people becoming sicker and why is the variant stronger and seemingly the vaccine is less effective? 

No. That's just a misinformed parsing of the facts. The number of vaccinated people getting the virus is growing because the number of people getting vaccinated is growing. If 100% of people got vaccinated then the percentage of people getting the virus would be 100%.

if you believe the vaccines are safe, of course you’re entitled to your own opinion, I don’t have to agree with that.

No. But you do have to look at the numbers.

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Yeah! Operation Warp Speed was a stroke of genius by Trump that was twisted by liberal academics to try and unseat him. This all resulted in rushed vaccines!

Don’t listen to Hannity or Trump anymore. They are RINOS. Alex Jones is the true heart of the party now

Don't listen to anyone, that includes everyone on the left or right, listen to your personal healthcare physician, they will help you into making the best choice about the vaccine.

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There’s no way to fix people who put political ideology ahead of science, factual evidence that they are dying at higher rates, or common sense. 

Their untimely death fixes it. Sort of like a self cleaning oven.

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What questions? Most have been answered. 

No, if they were, the left, the media and big tech wouldn’t be out opposing every viewpoint as misinformation and insisting that their view is always right and irrefutable because they think their statements can’t be challenged? That’s just nuts.

*Is it safe? Yes.*

If that is entirely true then why are the number of vaccinated people getting the virus growing and why are more people becoming sicker and why is the variant stronger and seemingly the vaccine is less effective? if you believe the vaccines are safe, of course you’re entitled to your own opinion, I don’t have to agree with that.

*.Is it effective? Yes, around 95%, depending on the brand.*

95% according to whom? The CDC? The WHO.

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https://redstate.com

Do you have any links that aren't hyperpartisan right-wing fake news and propaganda?

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Hmm my last post got cut off. Most people would classify

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Blacklabel

Dr. Brytney Cobia of Grandview Medical Center wrote this about young people recently arriving at her hospital seriously ill with Covid-19:

Problem is that her state (Alabama) has ZERO deaths from COVID for anyone under the age of 15. only 12 in people 15-24. So who are these young people dying she is talking about?

Sorry, that's a straw man. Firstly, most people would classify

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Nice rant, but yeah, now more people are skeptical of the vaccine.

FOX isnt Hannity just did a nice U turn, seem like they dont like the fact that their supporters are dying from covid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFjbaj0nms

2 ( +3 / -1 )

bass4funk

We definitely didn’t think the vaccine is perfect, that’s why we keep asking questions but the left don’t want us to do that.

What questions? Most have been answered.

Is it safe? Yes. Billions have received at least one vaccine and only a tiny number have had any adverse reactions.

Is it effective? Yes, around 95%, depending on the brand.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

It is not false that vaccinated people get covid

true vaccinated people can still catch covid, but theyre far less likely to be contagious and suffer long term health effects. many hospitals and counties in the US are currently reporting that the over 99% of people currently dying from covid are unvaccinated. The facts back by medical evidence is the vaccines is very effective in reducing infection transmissions and death. The risk of dying from the vaccines is so low its negligible. 400million vaccines administered and deaths associated with it cant even be verified because the numbers are so small. meanwhile 4 million dead of covid so far, and India may even match this at the rate of infections

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Wolfpack

It is not false that vaccinated people get covid ( see the vaccinated White House official that caught it from the vaccinated Texas Democrats). Vaccinated individuals exposed to covid will spread it to others - that’s a reality.

But a much lower percentage than unvaccinated individuals. Almost all infections are from unvaccinated people - that's a reality. If everyone got vaccinated, there would be almost no infections. Like measles. There are very few outbreaks of measles these days, but it's mostly spread by unvaccinated people.

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It appears she was not. She attended four days ago for a regular medical checkup.

Apparently, she did…

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/07/18/kamala-harris-heads-to-walter-reed-after-meeting-with-covid-texas-dems-n412762

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

Blacklabel: Massachusetts Has Now Reported More Than 5,000 Breakthrough COVID Infections, 80 Deaths

And? Is there something out of line here?

3 ( +5 / -2 )

The anti-vaxxers is keep posting links to people who have been vaccinated yet got Covid. These people aren’t smart enough to realize no one ever said the vaccine was perfect,

We definitely didn’t think the vaccine is perfect, that’s why we keep asking questions but the left don’t want us to do that.

in fact, everything they said was that it wasn’t 100% efficacy. These people are seeing what they were told they’d see,and yet they’re so stupid they think they’ve discovered something they weren’t already told of ahead of time! Not in the top half of the class are they.

Nice rant, but yeah, now more people are skeptical of the vaccine.

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no one ever said the vaccine was perfect, in fact, everything they said was that it wasn’t 100% efficacy.

someone better tell Biden then. as he is someone. the usual "no one ever said...." line is ruined.

Joe Biden: This is a simple, basic proposition. If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die. 

is he purposely lying, pushing misinformation or does he have the mental faculties of a potato? or all of these?

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

There’s no way to fix people who put political ideology ahead of science, factual evidence that they are dying at higher rates, or common sense. Sad but true, if they can learn at all it’s always going to be the hard way.

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Dr. Brytney Cobia of Grandview Medical Center wrote this about young people recently arriving at her hospital seriously ill with Covid-19:

"One of the last things they do before they're intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I'm sorry, but it's too late," Cobia wrote in a Facebook post Sunday.

"A few days later when I call time of death, I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same," Cobia wrote.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/22/health/hospitalized-patients-covid-19-vaccine/index.html

Problem is that her state (Alabama) has ZERO deaths from COVID for anyone under the age of 15. only 12 in people 15-24. So who are these young people dying she is talking about?

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

The anti-vaxxers is keep posting links to people who have been vaccinated yet got Covid. These people aren’t smart enough to realize no one ever said the vaccine was perfect, in fact, everything they said was that it wasn’t 100% efficacy. These people are seeing what they were told they’d see,and yet they’re so stupid they think they’ve discovered something they weren’t already told of ahead of time! Not in the top half of the class are they.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Biden should be banned from social media for misinformation

But, again, one last thing. We don't talk enough to you about this, I don't think. One last thing that's really important is, we're not in the position where we think that any virus, including the Delta virus, which is much more transmissible and more deadly in terms of unvaccinated people, the -- the various shots that people are getting now cover that. You're OK. You're not going to -- you're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations. 

This is a simple, basic proposition. If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die.

You in fact can get the COVID after vaccination and you can in fact die. both from COVID and/or the vaccine itself. misinformation, directly from the President.

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

Vaccinated people are unlikely to have a serious infection of covid requiring hospitalisation and ICU. The passing of the virus is reduced to less than 50%. but vaccinated people still need to wear a mask and take other precautions

So why did Pelosi’s vaccinated staffers get the virus and why was Kamala whisked away to Walter Reed? Why are the numbers going up in States where people followed all the guidelines? Again, people becoming more skeptical to everything the government is now peddling.

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Massachusetts Has Now Reported More Than 5,000 Breakthrough COVID Infections, 80 Deaths

"Breakthrough" is the new word used to not have to say "people who are vaccinated"

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

People who are vaccinated are still getting Covid and still dying.. FACT... see link below.

CDC has stopped tracking Covid cases among the vaccinated cohort unless they are admitted to hospital or die so actual numbers of infections amongst vaccinated people is likely to be quite high.

I think it is more likely that based on the lower hospital admissions and deaths that the Delta variant is a weaker version of the initial virus. They are still not reporting how many of the hospitalized have secondary illnesses either. Based on the high rates of obesity and diabetes in the US I think you will find most of those being hospitalized have secondary illnesses such as these.

Vaccinate the old and those with secondary illnesses and move on!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

What is an "open borders policy" anyway?

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Wrong. The vaccines significantly reduce infection and transmission.

Yes but that wasn’t the point - you made a straw man argument.

Burning Bush: Since the vaccines don't stop transmission but merely make the symptoms less noticeable, vaccinated people are catching Covid and not self-quarantining.

It is not false that vaccinated people get covid ( see the vaccinated White House official that caught it from the vaccinated Texas Democrats). Vaccinated individuals exposed to covid will spread it to others - that’s a reality. Regardless, people are much better off getting vaccinated because it reduces your chances of suffering from severe symptoms and death.

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Al the while Florida man presides over the state with the single largest vector of infections and rails against masks.

California the numbers are rising and yet everyone was wearing a mask so….

There is not a unreasonable fear of vaccines in Japan.

There is a shortage of vaccines that will be overcome in the next few months.

https://apnews.com/article/japan-coronavirus-vaccine-coronavirus-pandemic-sports-business-04eaae220abeff6cb30ee4f0e0fc58f8

People in Japan are often skeptical about foreign-made drugs, especially vaccines, and officials say they needed to thoroughly address safety concerns.

Japan’s mistrust of vaccines is decades old, partly because side effects have often been played up.

In the 1990s, the government scrapped mandatory inoculations after a court ruling held it responsible for side effects linked to several vaccines.

I know a lot of people that will not take the shot.

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“Soaring infections”! How biden screwed this up is beyond me. He was handed a thriving vaccine program on his way in the door but somehow through political bumbling and an unnecessary confrontational posture has failed to bring together the nation during the worst health crisis in a century. biden’s permissive open borders policy has laid bare the America’s sanctuary cities to a catastrophe of death.

Hahahahahahhahha :'D

Blaming a rise on infections on open borders... Priceless.

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“I don’t want to keep putting my life on the line just because people don’t want to get vaccinated or listen to what health care professionals are recommending," lamented Pascaline Muhindura, a registered nurse who has worked on the hospital’s COVID-19 unit for more than a year.

The unvaccinated couldn't care less about you and the problems they are causing others like you.

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stormcrowToday 07:57 am JST

Do you kind of get a sick feeling that this same scenario is about to be play itself out here in Japan within the next few months?

No I don't.

There is not a unreasonable fear of vaccines in Japan.

There is not a belief that "this whole Covid thing" is a hoax.

There is a sense of responsibility in the populous for how they effect (or infect ) others.

There is a shortage of vaccines that will be overcome in the next few months.

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Al the while Florida man presides over the state with the single largest vector of infections and rails against masks.

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Burning Bush

Since the vaccines don't stop transmission but merely make the symptoms less noticeable, vaccinated people are catching Covid and not self-quarantining.

Wrong. The vaccines significantly reduce infection and transmission.

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Do you kind of get a sick feeling that this same scenario is about to be play itself out here in Japan within the next few months? I have a reservation for the vaccine . . . I just hope my doctor doesn't tell me at the last minute that there's a problem and that I'll have to wait.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Since the vaccines don't stop transmission but merely make the symptoms less noticeable, vaccinated people are catching Covid and not self-quarantining.

False. Studies show that vaccines drastically reduce the number of of people becoming infected.

The people ending up in hospital are unvaccinated. In places where vaccines are easily available, there isn't any good excuse for not being vaccinated at this point. No line. No waiting at almost every grocery store in the USA.

Unvaccinated catch all versions of the virus 90% more often than vaccinated people. Then spread it because they refuse to wear masks and behave like there isn't any COVID.

Really would be nice if we could block specific posters and never see their comments. Other article publishing sites allow that capability. Or at least limit the number of comments per userid per thread to some number, perhaps 3.

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Since the vaccines don't stop transmission but merely make the symptoms less noticeable, vaccinated people are catching Covid and not self-quarantining.

Hahahahahahhahha :'D

Blaming a rise on infections on vaccinated people... Priceless.

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