Vance attack on Europe overshadows Ukraine talks at security conference

Hopefully we will finally see an end to this senseless war in Ukraine!

1 down but I don’t hold much hope for a successful settling of the Palestinian issue as The Donald seems to have been bought and paid for by Adelson!

Trump and minions should not be invited to these events. They aren't serious and they have nothing to offer.

SanjinosebleedToday 06:13 am JST

1 down

Are you under the impression the war is over already?

More and more embarrassing, shameful, and despicable by the day. Censoring free speech? Vance is talking about AfD and right wing extremists, which is just what he himself, Trump, and MAGA are. I wonder what experiences might Europe have had previously when failing to shun extremists?

LIVE: JD Vance speaks to Munich Security Conference amid Ukraine crisis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlXUeNexTCw&t=639s

Before huffing and puffing, how dare JD Vance very much, please view the speech, context interpretation.

My take away personally, provocative, I suggest thought provoking, a few take aways .

“If you are afraid of the voices, the opinions and the conscience that guide your very own people … If you’re running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you, nor for that matter is there anything you can do for the American people.”

“People dismissing voters’ concerns, shutting down their media, protects nothing. It is the most surefire way to destroy democracy, old entrenched interests hiding behind ugly Soviet-era words like misinformation and disinformation”

 “For years we have been told everything we fund and support is in the name of our shared democratic values, everything from our Ukraine policy to digital censorship is billed as a defence of democracy, but when we see European courts cancelling elections and senior officials threatening to cancel others we ought to ask ourselves if we are holding ourselves to an appropriately high standard.”

I read that JD Vance met with AfD leader, Alice Weidel, a clear breach of protocol yet declined the offer to meet the SPD leader and current chancellor, Olaf Scholz.

Vance reiterated.....

“Democracy will not survive if their people’s concerns are deemed invalid or even worse not worth being considered.”*

 “if your democracy can be destroyed by a few thousand dollars of digital media from a foreign country it was not very strong to begin with”.

“In Washington, there is a new sheriff in town, under Donald Trump’s leadership, we may disagree with your views, but we will fight to defend your right to offer it in the public square".

JD Vance is not to be underestimated, that was a harsh lecture.

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Yes, Vance said many things. “Cancelling elections?” The party of MAGA is concerned about cancelling elections now? Right.

The Trump administration is very, very swiftly eroding European trust and undermining NATO, and he is only weeks into his Presidency. The International Rules Based Order is being shaken hard by Trump and some observers are looking at the current situation as the most dangerous period for 20-30 years.

Keep in mind here, the US were encouraging Ukraine to join NATO and Presidents like George W Bush openly said 'I am a supporter of the idea of Ukraine's membership in NATO' in 2005. Now, having pumped $64 Billion in weapons into the Ukraine, Trump has tuned heels and abandoned them. Zelensky and Europe are reeling. Putin will be pumped - he wins.

The US are currently threatening to take Greenland by force, meaning that one NATO country is directly threatening another. And to those who choose to point the finger at other countries (like, say, China for example) for 'aggression', just let that sink in for a minute. Think about the magnitude of what the US are actually doing here. The US/Europe alliance, which is fast becoming compromised, would be in tatters. NATO would be cooked.

Now Old Mate Vance has gone over to Europe and lectured them on immigration and free speech.

Fuzakenna.

This US administration are not only foolish, they are really dangerous. This isn't going to end well.

Ukraine prevails?

LOL

Vance holding a private meeting with Weidel, that neo-Nazi style woman from the German AfD ("All for Germany"). Did they surf the couch together?

Vance insulting European leaders, defending the far right spectrum, getting involved in European elections.

Vance criticizing Romania's decision to annul the presidential elections.

Vance talking about freedom of speech - when this right is trampled on in the US.

Vance - Donald Trump's and thus Putain's mouthpiece!

His speech in Munich sounds like it was literally written by the Kremlin

Great to see Vance giving voice to majority of Germans (check the polls - AfD plus CDU are over 50%) - the 'establishment' class refuse to accept such a result in a EU managed democracy.

I just watched his speech. It was great, he said a lot of things that needed to be said.

The EU is the "sickman" of Europe.

JD is delivering a hard but well-earned message: Brussels globalists vassalizing themselves to the previous administration means nothing.

In American it means: clean up your act.

JD Vance has the probity and charisma of a dead oyster.

JD is delivering a hard but well-earned message: I think Trump is Hitler, but I love power so I debased myself to work for him and I now try to promote fascism in Europe

Fixed it for you.

Important to be clear - this is decent criticism of the EU political class, and not criticism of the decent European citizens, of all nations, who happened to be mismanaged by the above bureaucratic class.

@JJE,

I don't know which side of the ocean you're living - but majority of Germans?

Just this: AfD = ultra right, NAZI-style

CDU = conservative.

There's still a difference!

According to a reliable, unbiased survey CDU together with CSU has 32% of the votes.

AfD 20% and decreasing steadily (Good so, because "NEVER AGAIN"!!)

So, your "calculation" looks a bit off!

@dobre van ....

"Ukraine prevails? LOL"

Completely off topic!

But, YES, Ukraine prevails! 3 years already since Putain's aggression and genocide attempt!

Get over it - that dic(k)tator in the Kremlin is on the losing side!

I agree that If a political party receives a significant number of votes in a fair and free election in a democracy, then that must be accepted by all, and if the party wins the right to representation in parliament, that right must be granted. Sorry, folks, that's called "democracy," even if you don't like it.

not criticism of the decent European citizens, of all nations, who happened to be mismanaged

Awwww. How sweet. The new fascism welcomes all who swear allegiance to it.

JD is delivering a hard but well-earned message: I think Trump is Hitler, but I love power so I debased myself to work for him and I now try to promote fascism in Europe

@IveSeen

Well put.

Every accusation is a confession, as they say.

The current Chancellor of the Germany has maybe 10-15% (at tops) and runs it through something called a "traffic light coalition". But the lights are changing. German economy is in recession too because of what they did. That's why people are upset.

Not only Vance is absolutely right, the majority of regular, hardworking Europeans know it. The EU's open-border policies have been a complete disaster, compromising security, culture, and national identity.

Bottom line is: Europe is the ancestral homeland of Europeans - it should never be sacrificed to the whims of insidious, out-of-touch globalist politicians. Instead of silencing dissent, EU "leaders" should listen to their own people, who are sick of the chaos these policies have unleashed.

I agree that If a political party receives a significant number of votes in a fair and free election in a democracy, then that must be accepted by all, and if the party wins the right to representation in parliament, that right must be granted. Sorry, folks, that's called "democracy," even if you don't like it.

Problem is, the "first past the post" system is not how democracy works in most of Europe (except for the UK).

A party receiving 28% of the vote may be the "most popular" - yet despised by 70% of the voters.

Seeing as the US is now openly criticising the domestic politics of Europe, European leaders should start attacking the US on domestic issues such as lack of gun controls, huge murder rate compared to Europe, attacks on women's rights ie abortion bans, the shocking lack of universal healthcare, and many more.

Prominent automotive manufacturers are going bust, laying off thousands of workers there and beyond.

That's the tip of the iceberg. People are losing their livelihood. Deindustrialization of the German heartland is happening - this is not a joke for the average German.

The other issues compound everything.

Amazing some laugh at it and think it is funny.

JJE

Important to be clear - this is decent criticism of the EU political class, and not criticism of the decent European citizens, of all nations, who happened to be mismanaged by the above bureaucratic class.

So the US, then.

UnderworldToday  08:00 am JST

No. The EU political class in that country and beyond, who have massively failed their own constituents.

Read first.

JD Valance speech foremostly should be taken as an opinion, his tone is lecturing, however not rude, dismissive, condescending.

Politically diplomatically such a "lecture" at the annual Munich Security Conference global platform has more than simply a "degree" of geopolitical significance, especially in the context of future negotiation rounds to end such a destructive war in Ukraine.

There is a clear refusal/unwillingness to include Europe or in many respects Ukraine government in those negotiations side tracking both parties to a bilateral process.

All in conjunction to a possible prolonged trading dispute, the introduction implementation reciprocal tariffs .

Also add in a overriding demand that Europe pays its way to provide security agreements/guarantees to its own citizens.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance accused European leaders on Friday of censoring free speech

He also has the gall to call out censorship when his own government are taking down websites that give information that the administration don't like.

and failing to control immigration,

Maybe they like immigration. Ever consider that?

drawing a sharp rebuke from Germany's defense minister and overshadowing discussions on the war in Ukraine.

Yup. JD Vance is a traitor to NATO & Ukraine, and is clueless about foreign policy.

How will he and Trump stop Putin from invading other countries? They are giving too many points to Putin. Any peace talks must include Ukraine, and the UK/EU since those will provide security. Trump is awarding Puting for his aggression.

Russian drone attack on Ukraine nuclear power plant.

The speech drew effusive praise on Russian state TV, where a correspondent, Asya Emelyanova, said on Rossiya 1: “It was very nice to hear Vance’s very strong speech.

All those praising Vance remember your only ally is the Kremlin

Europe's got to play 'catch' up on defense spending, meaning far more than 2% of GDP.

Trump Admin busy downgrading 'war monger' NATO, pulling US troops soon from Europe. No more NATO eastern expansionary adventures risking WWIII, unleashing global inflation and destroying currencies.

Europe's will have to 'secure' Ukraine, no US troops, Vance telling it like it is, Europe's $cockroach days are over.

The Trump administration continues to demolish the bridges between every nation in the world. Why? Doesn't Trump and Vance understand that we need our allies?

I thought this type of work was generally done by the US Secretary of State not the VP.

"Europe is the ancestral home of the ....wait for it.....Europeans. "

First prize .

History of Europe show rises and falls in Empire...even Bulgaria had an Empire...and a history of movements of people between countries.

Note that the only positive response to this speech came from Russia.

I guess they don't even feel the need to hide their new allegiance any more.

He said Vance had called into question democracy not only in Germany but in Europe as a whole.

Vance is correct.

A wake up call for Europe long overdue.

And Europe has to step up its game against Russia.

"Beware the ides of March" .....

JD Vance, 40 years, August 2, 1984, is heads above his political detractors, the manner JD Vance has woven a web of political sleight of hand. Defined as a rather deceptive rebranding to fit a narrative, some deftness, may I suggest trickery picking the Munich Security Conference

Most of all the "speech" is a carefully worded "hide and seek" tutorial in self promotion chicanery.  

Vance has ducked and dived not just a walk on part/role but a future grounding for a solid run for next US President.

Donald Trump is old enough to be his father.

Who is JD Vance? Things to know about Trump's pick for vice president

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15347674

Europe is the ancestral homeland of Europeans

And the United States is the ancestral homeland of _____s.

Europe's got a BIG mess on its hands with Ukraine, US has far bigger fish to fry than clowning around with a nuclear power over some lousy dirt in the middle of nowhere.

Above = JD Vance 'message' to the Globalist loving EU

The free speech advocates in the White House has banned Reuters from some press briefings because Reuters continues to refer to "The Gulf of Mexico ".....not "Gulf of America ".

There's petty....then there's the Trump Admin.

Whole new level.

The US remains a NATO member. It will be involved in any other NATO country invaded or attacked.

The US remains a NATO member. It will be involved in any other NATO country invaded or attacked.

Not necessarily.

For once I agree with some posters here. It’s time to close American military bases in Europe. The USA can no longer be trusted anyway, and they're gonna need extra manpower to pick up lettuces.

They absolutely are nuts.

This is a really dangerous moment in history.

It's like watching a bad mix of RoboCop and the Terminator.

Right wing borderline fascists lecturing about democracy.

That's why Musk is gutting the govt. departments.

The want complete fealty

The speech drew effusive praise on Russian state TV, where a correspondent, Asya Emelyanova, said on Rossiya 1: “It was very nice to hear Vance’s very strong speech.

Asya is a very good correspondent, but she is only one of many hundreds of Rus correspondents working in Europe and having a wide range of emotions on the topic. Your example is not representative. By saying one phrase, you're scaring local experts with Kremlin :) Today, hundreds of people have expressed their opinions on Russian TV. And few of them used the word Kremlin :)

So what?

Zelenskyy said at the Munich conference that he would talk to Putin only once Ukraine had agreed on a common plan with Trump and European leaders.

'The only thing more dangerous than being America’s enemy is to be its friend'

(saying widely attributed to Henry Kissinger)

Still not sinking in despite the VP reinforcing the apparently clear.

Vance “attacked Europe”?

man, it’s gonna be a rough 2029-2037 for Europe then, they might as well start adapting now.

the old freeloader days are over.

Surprised Vance is involved in anything. He’s been mostly forgotten as Trump stuffs his government with incompetent opportunists, elites and conspiracy theorists. Maybe Vance wanted attention.

Anyway, he has all the charisma of a wet fart.

Maybe he’s thinking he make a few headlines to bump up his standing and profile in case a declining Trump doesn’t make it through this term.

iknowall

The US remains a NATO member. It will be involved in any other NATO country invaded or attacked.

Not necessarily.

What do you think NATO Article 5 is? The US is the only NATO country to use it.

if one could just put the partisanship aside for a moment and really look at what was said .

Some valid points made by Vance regarding the open door policy of Germany has squarely put them in the predicament they now face, without doubt.

Have countries like Germany sucked at the teet of the US for too long? Absolutely

The pendulum in Germany swung too far left, now they face a violent swing to the right.

Europe collectively needs to step up and now.

Sorry to harp on, 21st century political accountability cannot must be defined as a two distinctive "walls" impenetrable.

Voter are either Hard Left or Extreme Right

The no mans land in-between is a fascist politically toxic cabal disguised as the "liberal centre" .......

A deep seated deceitful deception, never accepting compromise, no debate just cancellation,

US people chose to take a deep breath.

God best America for doing so.

America First?

I don’t try to tell the natives about their politics and whom to vote for or belittle them because of a politician I don’t like.

The TreesToday  06:28 am JST

... right wing extremists, which is just what he himself, Trump, and MAGA are.

Did the far left MSM brainwash this into you?

Yawn. Another one.

What sources would you recommend?

Links would be nothing short of absolutely delightful.

The new and decent Treasury Secretary was in Kyiv just the other day, all on camera. He presented him with a few papers (obviously related to theoretical mineral extraction). His job at Munich is to present those papers with his signature. That is all. The actual value is yet to be determined. Hasn't been cleared by any means.

A peace treaty won't be reached just by Trump's unilateral actions. It must include all the parties.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are under the age of 25. It's the only possible explanation for how you write.

Thanks TG. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're over 70, because only someone that out of touch would think condescension is a substitute for an actual argument.

The guy that once called Trump, Hitler and is now his VP?

He is the poster boy of 'for sale'/corrupt

The ‘conversion’ stories are still powerful for some.

You could sell hammers for left handed people to that lot.

A settlement will be reached by responsible, sovereign countries.

The others will obediently sit down listen (and hopefully learn).

bass4funkToday 08:19 am JST

Trump and minions should not be invited to these events. They aren't serious and they have nothing to offer.

They are, but the left just doesn’t get it and think they’re bluffing

And what pray-tell are they offering? MAGA hats just aren't going to cut it there.

Praising Putin and dissing our allies...

Trump 2.0 - Making Russia Great Again - and the US a pariah...

iknowallToday 08:44 am JST

The US remains a NATO member. It will be involved in any other NATO country invaded or attacked.

Not necessarily.

Yes necessarily as Congress at least made sure to lock that up.

patkimToday 08:17 am JST

The Trump administration continues to demolish the bridges between every nation in the world. Why? Doesn't Trump and Vance understand that we need our allies?

No, no they do not. It's interesting how far right nutters always have an IQ maximum.

JayToday 07:45 am JST

Europe is the ancestral homeland of Europeans

Your homeland is in very real risk of speaking russian in the future.

Good that VD Vance didn't tell them more than only the half truth and found still some very optimistic, friendly and self-restrained words. They wouldn't stand there the whole picture. It's completely over and they are incurable patients in their very last breaths in Europe.

And what pray-tell are they offering? MAGA hats just aren't going to cut it there.

What does Europe have to offer, that’s what you really should be asking.

Jimizo...

Social justice, old school socialism is a very far cry from the present labour government.

Also the manner in which European energy security policy emboldened Putin Ukraine invasion.

Every facet of EU commission policy towards it consumers, towards its people, has little or nothing to promoting unity, its hidden from scrutiny by the people for the people.

It is a world of globalised corporate lobbyists, powerful vested interests

EU/UK/ government of the past two decades have perversely implementing policies regulatory frameworks and continue to do so that have financed Putin Russia.

My contention is that media pigeonhole "political extremism" into a clearly defined swamp thing, Hard Left or Extreme Right, so "democracy" or a rather duplicitous "liberal" concoction/contortion can gallop through the so called centre middle ground.

EU and NATO in total disrepair, losing huge amounts of goodwill, across world, angry at expansionist NATO agenda undermining world's confidence in currencies with massive purchasing power losses, fueled inflation, military spending and weapons proliferation to skyrocket.

US pulling back from NATO, most troops leaving shortly, how far back remains an open question the Trump Admin will negotiate based on EU stepping up for once, that means BIG defense spending and Ukraine security.

EU is becoming irrelevant, and the Union seems destined to break apart, too many divergent views within, Brussels simply not able to herd the cats.

Friends, like VP Vance, not afraid to speak truth above to EU, NOT for Sale, as values driven not profit driven.

Berlin still has the decent Alexanderplatz.

Bring back Gert. He speaks the language of the biggest, most populous country in Europe (the former - the world). His economy was great for everyone.

Friends, like VP Vance, not afraid to speak truth above to EU, NOT for Sale, as values driven not profit driven.

The look of the faces of these people, just priceless

MAGA thinks the world revolves around USA and that Trump is the "Sun God "

Whats the difference between yogurt and America ?

Yogurt has a culture.

DDDD - Daily Dose of Donald's Dementia...

A verbal slip from Donald Trump on Thursday unintentionally resurfaced one of his most infamous scandals.

*While speaking to reporters, the President twice in quick succession mistakenly referred to the social media platform TikTok as “Tic Tac,” the brand of breath mints. The blunder was widely mocked online.*

In 2016 then-reality TV personality Trump told the show’s then-host Billy Bush that he needed Tic Tacs before greeting “Days Of Our Lives” actor Arianne Zucker. I better use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her,

Take his car keys and get him into a "home" quick...he's brain-fried...

MAGA thinks the world revolves around USA and that Trump is the "Sun God "

Something close to that.

Yogurt has a culture.

As do we, which helps keep our allies happy and healthy and drive away all the bad things that could harm them.

Friends, like VP Vance, not afraid to speak truth above to EU, NOT for Sale, as values driven not profit

The MAGA crowd certainly fall in love easily.

The bizarre thing here is that MAGA is led by a known scammer and conman.

Trump cannot unilaterally leave NATO and he will not be taking back US troops from their vital role of protecting American business and allies it depends on.

Surprised Vance is involved in anything. He’s been mostly forgotten as Trump stuffs his government with incompetent opportunists, elites and conspiracy theorists. Maybe Vance wanted attention.

Vance hasn't been forgotten by American. Maybe those non-US citizens who rely on Tik Tok feeds for their news skip over his videos..

The US remains a NATO member. It will be involved in any other NATO country invaded or attacked.

Not necessarily.

What do you think NATO Article 5 is? The US is the only NATO country to use it.

I know what Article 5 is.

What happens if one NATO member invades another NATO member, or if NATO members invade each other simultaneously? You think the US is coming to help out?

iknowall

What do you think NATO Article 5 is? The US is the only NATO country to use it.

I know what Article 5 is.

What happens if one NATO member invades another NATO member, or if NATO members invade each other simultaneously? You think the US is coming to help out?

Do you mean like the US invading Greenland? It has never happened to date. But you never know with Trump.

This article has been invoked only once in the 70-year history of the Alliance: in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 terror attacks on the United States.

And the United States is the ancestral homeland of _____s

Good point, now why is the left in the US silent on this one...

The TreesToday  06:28 am JST

More and more embarrassing, shameful, and despicable by the day. Censoring free speech? Vance is talking about AfD and right wing extremists, which is just what he himself, Trump, and MAGA are. I wonder what experiences might Europe have had previously when failing to shun extremists?

Vance was spot on. Just because you don’t like it means nothing. Free speech and expression mesn exactly that. There is nothing more important in the world.

Surprised Vance is involved in anything. He’s been mostly forgotten as Trump stuffs his government with incompetent opportunists, elites and conspiracy theorists. Maybe Vance wanted attention.

Vance hasn't been forgotten by American

American what?

50/1 on that making sense.

Russia now holds about 20% of Ukraine nearly three years after launching a full-scale invasion..

There was never a full-scale invasion only the Russian majority regions, had this been full-scale, all of Ukraine would have fallen within a month.

Is there not a more simple explanation conclusion, JD Vance lecturing touched a raw nerve European politicians were acutely aware of but refused to acceptable, acknowledge or amend?

MAGA....you learn more by suppressing ego, being humble and open to other ideas.

"Pride goeth before a fall "

The truth of a progressive, integrated and democratically functional EU is being shown as …fake by the Americans-good!

The European Union (EU) is the United States' largest trading partner. The EU and the US have the world's largest bilateral trade and investment relationship.

Wallace ...doesnt matter about trade etc.

MAGA are like drunken sailors on a bender at present.

Have to wait till morning and the inevitable remorse and hangover.

Vance claims Europe stffles free speech but Trump bans AP from the white house for persisting to call the gulf of Mexico but that name

How fitting that Munich is the venue for the Trump administration's appeasement of Putin.

Reminds me of another capitulation to another dictator:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

U.S. Vice President JD Vance accused European leaders on Friday of censoring free speech and failing to control immigration

What Vance said is all true.

JD Vance TORCHED European leaders for criminalizing free speech.

European leaders were expecting a softball discussion about Ukraine. Instead, Vance roasted them:

"Europe faces many challenges, but the crisis this continent faces right now, the crisis I believe we all face together, is one of our own making. If you're running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you, nor, for that matter, is there anything that you can do for the American people who elected me and elected President Trump."

European leaders freaked out over it, saying it was totally inappropriate and unacceptable, but the people of Europe LOVED IT. So much for that drone strike, he did not care about Ukraine AT ALL. Obviously the drone strike on Chernobyl was to get Vance to go along with Ukraine while with European leaders. FAIL.

Vance claims Europe stffles free speech but Trump bans AP from the white house for persisting to call the gulf of Mexico but that name

Does sound a bit off, doesn’t it?

Weird.

JD Vance is a hypocrite. He warns against censorship yet the Trump/Vance administration are leading censors of government information that they don't like.

Also, why no mention of Ukraine? Half the people listening were waiting for an update on Ukraine.

Vance didn't condemn Putin, didn't mention Ukraine, and was hypocritical.

Hardly worth listening to.

He's just venting his pent up frustration that Trump took his role as VP.

The EU getting very flustered and indignant about their plans to deny democratic election results to their publics.

He said the threat to Europe that worried him most was not Russia or China but what he called a retreat from fundamental values of protecting free speech - as well as immigration, which he said was "out of control" in Europe

There is more free speech online in China than in many Western liberal countries and here at JT. Look at all the cases of arrests in the UK! Censorship, political expressions, restrictions on protests and assembly, defamation and targeting dissenting voices.

Putin’s mouth must be watering by all of the idiocy he sees coming out of the Trump administration.

I just watched his speech. It was great, he said a lot of things that needed to be said.

The EU is the "sickman" of Europe.

Yes.

Putin’s mouth must be watering by all of the idiocy he sees coming out of the Trump administration.

Already carving Trump statues in Moscow. National holiday to follow.

The Russian army needed a miracle to help them do the job they couldn't do. Trump stepping up to be that miracle.

The EU getting very flustered and indignant about their plans to deny democratic election results to their publics.

It seems like it.

MAGA keep a few toys in the pram for next week.

Dont throw them all out at once.

On guard, EU! There’s a criminal clown and his nazi wonderboy by his side running the U.S..

I’m starting to like the cut of this vice-president’s jib. He’s been much better than I expected, or even imagined he would be.

In an address at the Munich Security Conference in Germany, Mr Vance warned Europe’s greatest threat came not from China or Russia but from within.

He said free speech and democratic institutions were being eroded and accused European politicians of forcing people to shut down social media accounts.

The Vice-President also urged the continent’s leaders to do more to stem illegal immigration.

In a specific attack on the UK, he raised the case of an ex-serviceman who prayed outside an abortion clinic and was convicted of breaching a safe zone around the centre.

‘Europe faces many challenges, but the crisis this continent faces right now, the crisis I believe we all face together, is one of our own making,’ Mr Vance told the conference. ‘If you’re running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you, nor, for that matter, is there anything that you can do for the American people who elected me and elected President Trump.’

He accused EU officials of cancelling elections and asked whether ‘we’re holding ourselves to an appropriately higher standard’.

I like how he’s walking right into the serpents’ lair and calling them out for being liars and cowards right to their faces. As corrupt and retarded as US politicians have been for the last 50 years, it would be hard to find politicians anywhere in the world who have been as totally abysmal as the fake democrats of the European Union.

MAGA Inc. Like good carrion vultures trying to cowardly feed on the cadaverous remains of what was left of Ukraine..

Bunch of clowns think they own Europe..

VD Vance & Trump are such hypocrites. Talking about democracy, & Romania’s recent election annulment. This from the people who refuse to admit that they lost the 2020 elections.

Well said JD, I propose that anyone who marries a migrant or the child of migrants should be declared illegal and extradited to the country their ancestors came from!!!!

Imagine how many people we can get rid of in America!!!

Vice President Vance could become a better President than Trump in a few years.

Vice President Vance could become a better President than Trump in a few years.

Unfortunately donald doesn’t like that too much.

Though I fully support another term for President Musk!!!

Vice President Vance could become a better President than Trump in a few years.

That will be easy. Trump on course to become the weakest president in history. The man who Made Russia Great Again.

Needs to up his ethnic cleansing game though.

The western alliance is breaking up before our eyes, but only in the manner of squabbling and not in differences over addressing real issues. The real issues will remain and may worsen.

If this is how the US is going to treat its allies, it will hasten the decline of the US and such allies.