Vance doesn't back away from false claims about migrants in Ohio even amid threats to the community

Vance is a product of the post-shame era created by Trump. This is a lie. It didn’t happen and JV Prance accidentally gave the game away telling Dana Bash that he made the whole thing up.

This overtly racist lie shows just how desperate Trump is becoming.

"Everybody who has dealt with a large influx of migration knows that sometimes there are cultural practices that seem very far out there to a lot of Americans.”

Yeah, but saying they are eating your pets is racist and just plain wrong.

Trump's immigration policy has nothing to do with border issues; it's all about racism. His immigration rhetoric is simply a cover for his contempt toward people of color. His obsession with the false rumor about immigrants eating dogs and cats clearly shows this.

“Let me tell you what we do know, though. What we know is that the Haitians who are in Springfield are legal. They came to Springfield to work. Ohio is on the move, and Springfield has really made a great resurgence with a lot of companies coming in. These Haitians came in to work for these companies. What the companies tell us is that they are very good workers. They’re very happy to have them there. And, frankly, that’s helped the economy.”

Yup. The reason they are there is that they made Springfield business friendly with a whole lot of incentives. Before that Springfield was becoming a ghost town.

Vance is just too chicken and proud to admit he and Trump were wrong. Even though they may feel immigration is a problem, using unfounded claims and racist conspiracies to promote it is dangerous and flat out unlawful. Someone ought to sue them for defamation.

Their dangerous rhetoric not only affects the legal Haitian immigrant community, but also other citizens in Springfield and surrounding counties who have to deal with school closures, etc. Companies employing these legal hardworking immigrants might even have to have their work interrupted and thus the economy affected due to some silly conspiracy.

Yet, here is the Presidential and Vice presidential nominees caring only about their pride and selves rather than the affect their actions may have on Americans.

Just because local and state officials have not received any reports about certain events does not mean that they have not occurred.

What is certain is that there have been disruptions and even a death (dangerous driving) caused by Haitian migrants.

Pretending that there aren’t any problems in a town where 20,000 non English speaking migrants are shipped in within a 3 year period is plain nonsense!

He went on to say: “Let me tell you what we do know, though. What we know is that the Haitians who are in Springfield are legal. They came to Springfield to work. Ohio is on the move, and Springfield has really made a great resurgence with a lot of companies coming in. These Haitians came in to work for these companies. What the companies tell us is that they are very good workers. They’re very happy to have them there. And, frankly, that’s helped the economy.”

It is all fun and games with 'They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cat' memes and songs until you have schools in Springfield getting bomb threats and hard working Haitians being harassed by Proud Boys on the street.

kurisupisu

Just because local and state officials have not received any reports about certain events does not mean that they have not occurred.

But to say that they have, without any evidence is irresponsible and racist.

What is certain is that there have been disruptions and even a death (dangerous driving) caused by Haitian migrants.

And death (dangerous driving) caused by non-Haitian's. What's your pont?

Pretending that there aren’t any problems in a town where 20,000 non English speaking migrants are shipped in within a 3 year period is plain nonsense!

No migrants are being shipped anywhere. Springfield has a lot of jobs that the locals don't want, what do you expect. Of course migrants who are willing to work will take the jobs.

Vance is Trump's pet, and he is now wondering if he has decided on the right breed.

There's that stochastic terrorism I come to expect from the the GOP.

Meanwhile, the woman who started it all is having very serious regrets.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/-just-exploded-springfield-woman-says-never-meant-spark-rumors-haitian-rcna171099

Newsguard, a media watchdog that monitors for misinformation online, found that Lee had been among the first people to publish a post to social media about the rumor, screenshots of which circulated online.

Lee said she pulled her daughter out of school and is now worried about her safety with so much attention on her family. She is also concerned for the safety of the Haitian community, which she said she did not intend to villainize en masse.

No, we are talking about someone that said something wrong, got factchecked and won’t walk the statements back.

About there being no police reports? Springfield police denying it happened?

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Yeah, but saying they are eating your pets is racist and just plain wrong.

Haitians are overwhelmingly black. It is an old racist stereotype of "black savages".

What is certain is that there have been disruptions and even a death (dangerous driving) caused by Haitian migrants.

Pretending that there aren’t any problems in a town where 20,000 non English speaking migrants are shipped in within a 3 year period is plain nonsense!

The same was said of my grandparents and their immigration wave. Your comment is racist to the core.

Vance is Trump's pet, and he is now wondering if he has decided on the right breed.

That would mean Walz is Kamala’s pet

“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do," Vance said

That’s the GOP vice presidential candidate. Unbelievable. Tells you all you need to know about the maga ticket. Unrepentant liars.

JD better be calling his global capitalist buddies he used to work with - he's going to need a job now that he's the laughing stock of US politics - he ain't going to be VP and he ain't going to be re-elected to the Senate...

At best, he'll end up like Sarah Palin as a contestant on Dancing the the Stars...

In other words, a has-been Loser...

funkymofoToday  08:15 am JST

“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do," Vance said

That’s the GOP vice presidential candidate. Unbelievable. Tells you all you need to know about the maga ticket. Unrepentant liars.

Admittedly he did try to row back on it a bit:

Vance said, “It comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents. I say that we’re creating a story, meaning we’re creating the American media focusing on it.

Think that's just BS though.

Back to the whataboutism. You know this is indefensible. Utterly pathetic.

“Whatever some local mayor said about this case, I am hearing from dozens of racists/xenophobes who are obsessed about making these lies,” Vance said.

There, fixed it for you JD.

Vance's spreading lies has led to a big increase in PTSD in cats, dogs, and all pets in Springfield. Vets are overwhelmed.

The fact that he is a raging scumbag aside, he is really bad at this. Shameful on all accounts.

Vance is well set to take the Trump ticket down with him. What a big mistake Trump has made.

I remember long ago in the mid 70's how some locals in Orange County Calif. were accusing Vietnamese and Cambodian migrants of abducting and eating their pets just to scare others so they won't allow them to rent apartments or buy homes in the area.

It turned out that the people behind it was supported and paid by a group of Real State agents who wanted to keep Asians out of the area.

Vance is a product of ...

Vance is a product of the american dream, self made rags to riches story..perfect candidate for vp..

Unfounded and untrue conspiracies like Haitian migrants eating people's pets gets more easily distributed through the use of SNS. Nowadays, it's just way too easy for these stupid rumors to spread like wildfire. It doesn't take the media now to spread this false claims. Since Trump only likes to read alt-right news outlets, he only gets extreme outlandish conspiracies as his view on the world. If Trump was just a normal citizen, then it might not be so dangerous.

Wallace -

Vance's spreading lies has led to a big increase in PTSD in cats, dogs, and all pets in Springfield. Vets are overwhelmed.

LOL.

I'm not really sure the pets watched the debate or are reading the news.

The scary thing is, that Vance got this rumor started from a phone call coming into his office reporting this incident. He never even tried to confirm it with any authorities in Ohio. So, anyone could just call him and say "Hey Vance, I saw a (fill in any race here) man/woman stealing and eating (fill in any animal here)." That's so disturbing and dangerous.

Vance is learning he has to say he believes any bizarre fictional thing that trump saw on tv now. Serves him right. Anyone that follows trump will have their career over as soon as trump is no longer in politics.

Wedge issues with racial overtones, like Willie Horton all over again. That's about all the Republicans have to run on.

At this point, I'm not about to take anything that comes out of JD Vance's mouth to be true. Like his mentor Trump, he's repeated so many lies and really strange things. For instance, when talking about immigrants, he said quote, "If the path to prosperity was flooding your nation with low-wage immigrants, then America would be the most prosperous country in the world". Then, the Secretary of Transportation, Pete Buttigieg came on and said quote, "I wonder which country Vance thinks is the most prosperous in the world, since he doesn't think it's America".

The timeline:

First: didnt happen.

fact check: false- it wasn’t dogs it’s cats and geese.

fact check: misleading- yes a cat was eaten but it was another nearby city and not a Haitian.

fact check- misleading- the Haitian carrying geese down the street was actually rescuing them from being hit by a car.

soon: yes, Haitians are eating pets, so do others and so what?

after: no one ever said Haitians weren’t eating pets! Respect their “culture” you bigot!

after, Washington Post: here’s some good recipes for cat and dog.

Proud to have JD Vance.

A military hero, 

LOL.

Vance did a tour of duty to work as a war correspondent in his capacity as a professional journalist. He most certainly was not near the fighting, engaging the enemy, rescuing his countrymen etc.

"Military hero"? Nope.

Blacklabel

The timeline:

First: didnt happen.

fact check: false- it wasn’t dogs it’s cats and geese.

fact check: misleading- yes a cat was eaten but it was another nearby city and not a Haitian.

fact check- misleading- the Haitian carrying geese down the street was actually rescuing them from being hit by a car.

soon: yes, Haitians are eating pets, so do others and so what?

after: no one ever said Haitians weren’t eating pets! Respect their “culture” you bigot!

after, Washington Post: here’s some good recipes for cat and dog.

No Haitians are eating pets.

Yeah only if you consider outside dogs and cats and animals such as ducks and geese from public parks to not be “pets”.

technicality I suppose.

Vance's spreading lies has led to a big increase in PTSD in cats, dogs, and all pets in Springfield.

Not to mention, an increase in stress among Haitians, school children, parents, teachers, and the rest of the Springfield community; maybe even all of Ohio.

What's so ridiculous about JD's failed attempts to defend this debacle is that after confronted with the fact that REPUB Gov DeWine, the Mayor, and the Police Chief all said there is ZERO evidence of this allegation, JD double's down and said "several of my constituents called me"....

So JD, when your house is under a home invasion, instead of calling the police, they should call you?

Or maybe when you see a bank being robbed, just call JD?

The level of MAGA-craziness has gone off the charts...

What beyond crazy racist fairy tale will they come up with next...

Just more evidence that MAGA-world is self-imploding...

The timeline:

First: didnt happen.

fact check: false- it wasn’t dogs it’s cats and geese.

fact check: misleading- yes a cat was eaten but it was another nearby city and not a Haitian.

fact check- misleading- the Haitian carrying geese down the street was actually rescuing them from being hit by a car.

soon: yes, Haitians are eating pets, so do others and so what?

after: no one ever said Haitians weren’t eating pets! Respect their “culture” you bigot!

after, Washington Post: here’s some good recipes for cat and dog.

The truth: Even Fox is telling you it's all bogus...

https://fox59.com/news/washington-dc-bureau/trumps-false-claim-about-immigrants-eating-pets-debunked/

Or is Fox lying to you - again...

No Haitians are eating pets.

You mean, of that you heard of. You don't this for a fact, and neither do I, not if you can factually prove it is not happening fine, if not, then none of us know for a fact, what is true and what is not. I am not on either side and I am definitely not on the side of the left just because THEY say it didn't happen, saying something and doing something are two entirely different things.

I am definitely not on the side of the left just because THEY say it didn't happen, saying something and doing something are two entirely different things.

Yesterday you were on the side of the police for about 10 minutes until the police stated clearly that it didn’t happen.

not if you can factually prove it is not happening fine, if not, then none of us know for a fact, what is true and what is not.

Ok. I read a tweet that 45 is eating kittens. Also, he is having an affair with Loomer, she provides the kittens.

Prove he isn’t. (You can’t). So, we just don’t know. Right?

Hmmm so people calling 911 about it, what?

https://nypost.com/2024/09/11/us-news/springfield-ohio-man-reported-haitian-migrants-snatching-geese/

if only there were a transcript of 911 calls….

https://thefederalist.com/2024/09/10/exclusive-police-audio-report-confirm-haitian-goose-hunting-in-ohio-they-all-had-geese-in-their-hands/

if only there were audio, you say?

https://rumble.com/v5eglea-exclusive-police-audio-confirm-haitian-goose-hunting-in-ohio-they-all-had-g.html

No Haitians are eating pets.

You mean, of that you heard of. You don't this for a fact, and neither do I, not if you can factually prove it is not happening fine, if not, then none of us know for a fact, what is true and what is not. I am not on either side and I am definitely not on the side of the left just because THEY say it didn't happen, saying something and doing something are two entirely deferent things.

Your own REPUB Gov said;

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine on Sunday denounced claims promoted by former President Donald Trump that Haitian immigrants are eating dogs and cats in Springfield, Ohio, calling them "hurtful" and "not helpful."

"There's a lot of garbage on the internet and this is a piece of garbage that was simply not true, there's no evidence of this at all," DeWine told ABC's "This Week."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/15/ohio-gov-mike-dewine-migrants-eating-pets-false/75236689007/

So, is he lying to you?

This whole fairy tale is so ridiculous - if it wasn't for the bomb threats and other threats of violence by the far-right...

But just think - MAGA-world is outraged by a fake report that pet dogs are being stolen and eaten by Black immigrants...

But when Repub Kristi Neom, who is white, admits to shooting her 16th month old puppy, they rush to defend her...

I wonder what they would have said if Noem gave the puppy to an immigrant rather than bury it...

Flip-flopping hypocrites....and racists...

You don't this for a fact, and neither do I, not if you can factually prove it is not happening fine, if not, then none of us know for a fact, what is true and what is not. I am not on either side and I am definitely not on the side of the left just because THEY say it didn't happen, saying something and doing something are two entirely different things

So in essence, what you're saying is that one person's truth could be another person's lie. You'd rather believe in a so-called Laura Loomer "truth" about Haitians kidnapping and eating people's cats and dog, rather than Ohio state officials's truth about no confirmed reports of Haitians doing so? Look, I get it, people can believe what they want to believe. However, when it comes to believing in things that can hurt and cause violence, then that's where I draw the line.

I've learned that the best way to get a clear picture of things is to read a wide source of news. Even Fox news (yes, I do read it, but can't stand the crazy ideas of some of their correspondents), says Haitians are not eating people pets. Unfortunately, Trump gets his news only from extreme alt-right sources. He thinks the news coming from such sources must be true because it matches his personal views, even though the vast majority of news outlets disagree with him.

Blacklabel, NY Post, the Federalist and Rumble are hardly reliable new sources. How about posting your defense using reliable sources of information? All of these are notorious for spreading rumors and conspiracy theories.

A 911 call absent any investigative results to back it is worthless. It proves nothing. Anyone can make a 911 call. What matters is did the police find anything to back it up. So far nothing supports these claims of Haitians eating pets. It's just a vile rumor that feeds of some white people's bigotries against the "black savage". This stuff is as old as the US.

You mean, of that you heard of. You don't this for a fact, and neither do I, not if you can factually prove it is not happening fine, if not, then none of us know for a fact, what is true and what is not.

What impeccable MAGA logic.

This is what leads to QAnon and pizza parlor Satanic cult talk.

JD Vance appears to admit tale about Haitian immigrants eating pets is made-up as he loses cool with CNN host

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jd-vance-appears-admit-tale-151656091.html

Vance was caught admitting the Haitian immigrant story was a lie on CNN!

Interesting what we've learned today...

MAGA-world thinks its own Repub leaders like Ohio Gov Mike DeWine are nothing but liars...

And they think the same about Fox News which said this allegation was "false and debunked"....

Geez, who can you trust in MAGA-world these days - I guess Laura Loomer?

Wait, MTG said she's a racist...

“This is appalling and extremely racist,” Greene’s reply states. “It does not represent who we are as Republicans or MAGA. This does not represent President Trump. This type of behavior should not be tolerated ever.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/12/marjorie-taylor-greene-loomer-racist-post-condemnation/75195292007/

So is MTG now a LIAR too?

That's sounds like a conspiracy....think Jim Jordan should subpoena DeWine and get to the bottom of this?

He's probably going to subpoena Taylor Swift first over her endorsement. Obvious conspiracy o:

Yesterday you were on the side of the police for about 10 minutes until the police stated clearly that it didn’t happen.

Well, there is a police report that says otherwise, so I’m not sure who to believe and the same with the governor in Colorado who said, they don’t have a Venezuelan gang problem and that proved to be a complete lie. So I’m going to wait, but I do believe the initial police reports.

Ok. I read a tweet that 45 is eating kittens. Also, he is having an affair with Loomer, she provides the kittens. 

Ok

Prove he isn’t. (You can’t). So, we just don’t know. Right?

I really don’t care either way, not something I think or dwell on.

“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do," Vance said”

What a piece of work. 45 is sunk by the Vance and Loomer. Swifties are just the cherry.

Well, there is a police report that says otherwise

No, there isn’t. But let’s hear more about Colorado and geese since you have nothing else.

Let's not forget, that Trump and Vance's proliferation of this conspiracy against Haitian immigrants, will also affect anyone whose skin color is not white, since I'm sure most people can't tell a Haitian from just looking at them. Most level-headed people won't suddenly make snap judgements, but there are Trump cultists who will because they only get their news from Trump's mouth.

"Everybody who has dealt with a large influx of migration knows that sometimes there are cultural practices that seem very far out there to a lot of Americans.”

Tell that to the native Americans.

No, there isn’t.

There is.

But let’s hear more about Colorado and geese since you have nothing else.

You have nothing either. Like I said, Denver tried to make it seem as if the illegal immigrant crime wave is a myth and now we know it’s a lie, so sorry. I’m not going to believe the left on this until I see otherwise. So I will wait until they can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Yeah illegals taking over entire housing complexes and extorting money from residents was denied by government officials as being true and/or not wide spread either.

until it was true.

Trump should hold rallies in these places to draw more attention to the illegal immigration problems, it’s a winning issue.

Blacklabel

Trump should hold rallies in these places to draw more attention to the illegal immigration problems, it’s a winning issue.

He already does. Nobody cares because they know that illegals commit way less crimes than American citizens.

If you want crime to decrease, allow more immigration.

Amazing how posters who always incessantly respond that Fox News and Republican politicians are fake news and liars suddenly won’t accept those same people are….liars?

You're the one that called your fellow Repub DeWine a LIAR, not me...

Same for Fox - they called it "false and debunked" - you you said that was a LIE....

If anyone is dissing these your fellow Repubs and media outlets it's YOU...

And MTG - once more, is she LYING about Loomer?

kinda disingenuous huh?

if you say so - good self-assessment...

But typical. 2025-2029 of Trump 2 gonna be rough for you.

0 for 2 on assassinations.

Goes way off-topic - open admission he lost the argument....

Not actually false but not as widespread as they make it out to be.

All on has to do is look up police body cam footage and other videos.

This is not new or isolated or even just Haitians.

In my home city and influx of Easter Europeans got news because they were catching and eating the pigeons (which surprisingly at the time turned out not to be illegal).

I am sure there have been a few incidences but not some great epidemic, but more to the point and problem is the sudden placing of 20,000 Migrants in a town of around 58,000, the sudden population increase is far too much for any community to handle.

Who in their right mind would think increasing the population by that much was a good idea?

open admission he lost the argument....

What argument? We are in total agreement.

you post daily that Fox News and republican politicians are all liars.

But only today you claim their statements prove your claims as true. How odd, as they are liars. So they aren’t liars now?

i am in agreement with you as it pertains to RINO DeWine, Fox News and MTG. The specific statements referenced are not factual.

bass4funk

Again, this is the reason why Kamala doesn't even come close to Trump in this area.

She does. But the false narrative that illegals lead to an increase of crime is Trump's. And it is a lie.

Antiquesaving

I am sure there have been a few incidences but not some great epidemic, but more to the point and problem is the sudden placing of 20,000 Migrants 

There is no "sudden placing of 20,000 migrants".

Who in their right mind would think increasing the population by that much was a good idea?

The politicians getting paid to allow it.

Blacklabel

Gotta love these illegal immigration isn’t a crime types.

Nobody is saying that.

Illegal immigrants commit less crimes than local citizens.

That is a fact.

Blacklabel

Who in their right mind would think increasing the population by that much was a good idea?

The politicians getting paid to allow it.

Nope.

open admission he lost the argument....

Your debunked claim that immigrants were stealing and eating pets...did you forget about it?

What argument? We are in total agreement.

Really?

you post daily that Fox News and republican politicians are all liars.

No, YOU posted that; Black: "*Yes. DeWine is lying. It makes him look bad as the RINO he is if it’s going on and he’s not doing anything about it. So lie and hope for the best."*

But only today you claim their statements prove your claims as true. How odd, as they are liars. So they aren’t liars now?

Could be - but thanks again for once again admitting your own Team Red LIES to you...

i am in agreement with you as it pertains to RINO DeWine, Fox News and MTG.

I have no opinion on those but its clear you do - you think they're all LIARS...

The specific statements referenced are not factual.

Once more, admitting your own team is lying to you...thanks...

The U.S. should be ashamed of itself for putting out these well below average politicians who spread fake news and act like petulant children. The lead guy hates Taylor Swift because she decided long ago he wasn't the best candidate and the second guy still puts forward false stories debunked a while ago. This is what we've come to now? Politicians have always been liars but even Nixon ran mainly on the core issues.

bass4funk

She does. But the false narrative that illegals lead to an increase of crime is Trump's. And it is a lie.

Not when it comes to immigration.

Yes, when it comes to immigration.

She does.

Ok, so where? Prove it

But the false narrative that illegals lead to an increase of crime is Trump's. And it is a lie.

Not according to FBI stats.

Yes, when it comes to immigration.

Well, that is what the FBI has been claiming, but if you can show where Kamal is leading head over heels over Trump when it comes to immigration.

I examine each statement on its own merits. About the pets:

Governor DeWine is obviously lying that there is no evidence when there are 911 calls and police reports. That’s evidence.

Fox News is obviously lying about the same, lazily using liar DeWine as their proof rather than doing investigative journalism.

and MTG isn’t really lying- just misinformed and jealous that she was replaced as Trump’s “kinda nuts lady friend”.

Underworld

Today 11:54 am JST

Antiquesaving

> I am sure there have been a few incidences but not some great epidemic, but more to the point and problem is the sudden placing of 20,000 Migrants

> There is no "sudden placing of 20,000 migrants".

Well ultra left Reuters disagrees with you.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/haitian-immigrants-fueled-springfields-growth-now-us-presidential-debate-2024-09-11/

as many as 15,000 other immigrants from Haiti over roughly the last three years has reshaped this city of 58,000,

Just how many Haitians have arrived here remains unclear. Estimated at as many as 20,000 in the letter Vance read to Powell, city officials have since cut that to between 12,000 and 15,000 based on driver's license and state identification data.

Facts again not feelings

JohnToday  06:35 am JST

Vance is a product of the post-shame era created by Trump. This is a lie. It didn’t happen and JV Prance accidentally gave the game away telling Dana Bash that he made the whole thing up.

This overtly racist lie shows just how desperate Trump is becoming.

I'm from Ohio and I can tell you straightforward that yes we have immigrants from Haiti and elsewhere, and none of them are stealing dogs and cats and cooking them up and eating them. That's a load of absolute bull, and it also shows that Vance wants America to be a white supremacist state.

> UnderworldToday  06:42 am JST

"Everybody who has dealt with a large influx of migration knows that sometimes there are cultural practices that seem very far out there to a lot of Americans.”

Yeah, but saying they are eating your pets is racist and just plain wrong.

Vance claims to be a Catholic Christian. He should know the Commandments of 'Love thy Neighbor as Yourself' and 'Do Not Bear False Witness Against Your Neighbor'. He is violating these commandments with these racist lies.

socrateosToday  06:47 am JST

Trump's immigration policy has nothing to do with border issues; it's all about racism. His immigration rhetoric is simply a cover for his contempt toward people of color. His obsession with the false rumor about immigrants eating dogs and cats clearly shows this.

Don't forget all those Hispanic children he kidnapped and placed in concentration camps where they were diseased, overcrowded, raped, starved, beaten, sterilized. This 'border crisis' does not exist and it never did. It's well guarded at the checkpoints and there are barriers in the tough desert terrain.

That alone should be more than enough proof. Vance sold his soul to that antichrist fascist Caligula.

Besides, it's been 30 years this month - this very week (Sept. 19) that Pres. Clinton gave an Oval Office address stating to the military thug junta ruling Haiti 'Your time is up. Leave now or we will force you from power'.

The US invaded Haiti and got into an urban guerilla war that was mostly not televised. There was mentions of the voodoo religion common there, but if the Haitian people had any customs of eating dogs and cats I'm sure the sensational press so obsessed with O.J. Simpson would've amplified that as well. They didn't. Therefore, it all shows that it isn't true. Vance is telling a racist lie because he is a racist.

GOP Gov. DeWine defends Haitian immigrants: 'They came to Springfield to work'.

15,000 legal immigrants.

Just how many Haitians have arrived here remains unclear. Estimated at as many as 20,000 in the letter Vance read to Powell, city officials have since cut that to between 12,000 and 15,000 based on driver's license and state identification data.

Note how they "cut " the number based on "driver's licence and stare database"

Now do all the new arrivals have a car and or a driver's license?

Do the children?

So this seems clearly to be an attempt at political misleading.

If there are 15,000 that got driver's licences then we can logically deduce that there are another several thousands that did not and don't drive.

I examine each statement on its own merits. About the pets:

OK...

Governor DeWine is obviously lying that there is no evidence when there are 911 calls and police reports. That’s evidence.

That's evidence that it was REPORTED, the Police Chief said their investigation proved the complaints were not accurate... But still, thanks - its always a good day when Repubs call their own leaders clear LIARS...

Fox News is obviously lying about the same, lazily using liar DeWine as their proof rather than doing investigative journalism.

GREAT! The light bulb goes on that Fox lies all the time - proven by their $787 million lost judgment for lying about election fraud. Glad to see you think they lied about that too...

and MTG isn’t really lying- just misinformed and jealous that she was replaced as Trump’s “kinda nuts lady friend”.

OK, not a LIAR, just stupid and jealous that Loomer is now MAGA-girl #1....

MAGA-world is pretty pathetic, huh....

this is equating being illegal with automatically being a criminal and that is patently false. 

Where's your data to back up this statement?

just that illegally entering our country is a crime. Isn’t it?

so every illegal starts with 1 crime per capita.

No, there isn’t. 

There is. 

The police report you claim to have read but can’t link to. By the same person live who have repeatedly claimed the story is fake.

I see.

You have nothing either. Like I said, Denver tried to make it seem as if the illegal immigrant crime wave is a myth and now we know it’s a lie, so sorry. I’m not going to believe the left on this until I see otherwise. So I will wait until they can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Somebody lied once so now all people are liars. I see.

’The left’ don’t have to prove anything. The right started the lie and the police disproved it.

Now all you have is people in the US are eating geese! Shock horror!