Venezuela's top court says opposition failed to submit proof in election dispute

Maduro and his stooges cynically pretend like it is not their duty to produce something approaching a precinct level count. They should put themselves in jail or flee the country.

4 years ago I was told that that election denial was harmful to democracy.

Now I'm told that election denial is beneficial to democracy.

They claimed two-thirds, then over four-fifths and can't even stick to their web of lies, not to mention failed to turn up to court like everyone else.

Like the pretender/stooge Guaido, they will have a small apartment somewhere in Florida.

Important to observe none of the main Latin American powers have gone along with Washington's narrative.

JJEToday 07:35 am JST

They claimed two-thirds, then over four-fifths and can't even stick to their web of lies,

The astute reader will note that those are only separated by 14%, and denominators change as better information comes in.

not to mention failed to turn up to court like everyone else.

Are you surprised they would not show up for an arresting piece of stuffing?

Important to observe none of the main Latin American powers have gone along with Washington's narrative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_election#International

Literally almost every Latin American country has not recognized the fake result. I guess apologists have moved on to making up facts out of whole cloth.

4 years ago I was told that that election denial was harmful to democracy.

Persisting in the denial when it has been proved beyond rational doubt repeatedly surely is.

Now I'm told that election denial is beneficial to democracy.

That is not election denial, disputing the election and asking for proof is fine, if that proof is obtained and the person irrationally persist then it becomes a problem, it should not be difficult to understand.

Important to observe certain facts: the Organization of American States (OAS) failed to pass a resolution over the election in Venezuela. While 17 members voted to condemn Maduro, 11 abstained - including Brazil and Colombia - and five delegations, including Mexico, skipped the session altogether. The OAS needed 18 votes to pass muster and it didn't.

Doesn't sound like literally every regional country is on Washington's page here.

JJEToday 08:35 am JST

Important to observe certain facts: the Organization of American States (OAS) failed to pass a resolution over the election in Venezuela. While 17 members voted to condemn Maduro, 11 abstained - including Brazil and Colombia - and five delegations, including Mexico, skipped the session altogether. The OAS needed 18 votes to pass muster and it didn't.

Doesn't sound like literally every regional country is on Washington's page here.

Anti-US Brazil and Mexico still do not recognize the phony election.

Then why did they not condemn it at the OAS? Seems somewhat contradictory.

Relevant to add Mexico did invite Putin to the upcoming presidential inauguration of its new head of state. That can't have gone down well in obvious quarters.

Maduro and his stooges cynically pretend like it is not their duty to produce something approaching a precinct level count.

What was that often posted saying of yours ? ...oh yeah, quote ..". Their country, their rules ".

Hmm...ok then.

' They should put themselves in jail or flee the country.'

Making a phone call to Maduro to suggest that could work?

"Their country, their rules."

Ironic certain quarters asserted this for elsewhere.

Why doesn't it apply here?

Complete lack of consistency again.

JJEToday 09:44 am JST

Then why did they not condemn it at the OAS? Seems somewhat contradictory.

Relevant to add Mexico did invite Putin to the upcoming presidential inauguration of its new head of state. That can't have gone down well in obvious quarters.

A clear violation of their obligations under the Rome statute. They should be thrown out.

burgers and beersToday 11:45 am JST

What was that often posted saying of yours ? ...oh yeah, quote ..". Their country, their rules ".

Not my favorite quote, that is your team. You believe in the moral relativism that allows Russia to act like it is the 13th century.

Certain quarters like to post about consistency while ignoring the obvious parallels between Israel and Russia.

Clear violation of the what now ?

Add some detail, Taiwan....so I can refute it.

US out of Latino affairs.

Does that accord with the Rome statute ?

A on Government website, run by an opposition party, claims to have evidence of voter fraud that has resulted in that opposition party losing and the Maduro party winning.

In what other country would such a partisan website, non Govt. run, even get any time or airplay. ?

OTHER opposition parties are disputing this narrative, and criticising the lack of transparency on those behind the website and claims.

The USA is just repeating it's play book from the last election , when Maduro won, but the US invited the losing candidate to Washington and anointed him the real Pres. of Venezuela.

The real winner, Pres. Maduro heads a party that has the word "Socialist " in it's title.

Thats a red flag to Washington.

Venezuela also has vast quantities of oil.

Thats the reason US is interested.

USA...just go away.

All we want is the truth. It is clear that Maduro pulled a number from somewhere dark (he'd use both hands to get there) and posted it. In fair elections, as votes are counted, they are posted. The vote counting is performed with multiple organizations watching carefully. I've seen nothing like that in Maduro's count. He just claimed "51% voted for me" and then put his thugs and paid off judges to work.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/ap-review-vote-tallies-provided-by-venezuela-opposition-casts-doubt-on-official-election-results says:

An AP analysis of vote tally sheets released Friday by Venezuela’s main opposition indicates that their candidate won significantly more votes in Sunday’s election than the government has claimed, casting serious doubt on the official declaration that President Nicolás Maduro won.The AP processed almost 24,000 images of tally sheets, representing the results from 79 percent of voting machines. Each sheet encoded vote counts in QR codes, which the AP programmatically decoded and analyzed, resulting in tabulations of 10.26 million votes.

According to the calculations, the opposition’s Edmundo González received 6.89 million votes, nearly half a million more than the government says Maduro won with. The tabulations also show Maduro received 3.13 million votes from the tally sheets released.

By comparison, updated results from the governmental National Electoral Council made public Friday said that based on 96.87 percent of tally sheets, Maduro had 6.4 million votes and Gonzalez 5.3 million. National Electoral Council President Elvis Amoroso attributed the delay in updating results to “massive attacks” on the “technological infrastructure.”

The AP could not independently verify the authenticity of the 24,532 tally sheets provided by the opposition. The AP successfully extracted data from 96 percent of the provided vote tallies, with the remaining 4 percent of images too poor to parse.

The opposition posted scans of their "proof" online. Maduro's people quickly threatened anyone opposing the ruling claimed results.

Earlier Friday, a half dozen masked assailants ransacked the opposition’s headquarters in an escalation of violence after several countries called for proof of Maduro’s claim of victory.

Assailants broke down doors and hauled away valuable documents and equipment in the raid around 3 a.m., Machado and González’s party said. Several walls were covered in black spray paint.

The raid follows threats by top officials, including Maduro, to arrest Machado, who has gone into hiding while still urging Venezuelans and the international community to challenge Sunday’s election results.

All we want is the truth. That's it. Maduro isn't providing it or this would all be done.

" What was that often posted saying of yours ? ...oh yeah, quote ..". Their country, their rules ".

Not my favorite quote, that is your team. "

Nope, that is your quote. Posted numerous times. Unsurprisingly when pointed out, you deny it. As usual.

burgers and beersAug. 11 11:48 pm JST

" What was that often posted saying of yours ? ...oh yeah, quote ..". Their country, their rules ".

Not my favorite quote, that is your team. "

Nope, that is your quote. Posted numerous times. Unsurprisingly when pointed out, you deny it. As usual.

No matter how much you try to obfuscate, it is still not my quote. I don't believe in moral relativism. Maduro is evil and should go to hell.

Alternative news sites examined to website run by ONE of the opposition parties.

If you have a Venezuelan identity number, you can access the vote numbers and identity of the voters.

It seems deceased people voted for the opposition and Maduro did not vote at all.

Totally credible for the US...real BS for anyone with half a brain.

"Maduro is evil and should go to hell "

Yeah Taiwan..."keep it classy "

Real debating not a skill you have learnt ?

And "The Rome Statute violation "?

Where is your explanation of what this is exactly.

No matter how much you try to obfuscate, it is still not my quote. I don't believe in moral relativism.

Thats nice. Still your quote. No kahunas to own up to it. As usual.

Their country, their system.

JJE

Their country, their system.

Just like you said about Ukraine.