Vietnam PM texts nation amid anti-China riots

Rioting in one's own country doesn't "defend" your country. Vietnam just needs to smarten up and get together with all the others who are being bullied by the CCP.

Thats nice of the Vietnam PM to text his citizens: how about now he allows them to vote in an election some time, or allow opposition parties?

I know I should condemn these riots but now China knows how it feels to have companies being stormed by an angry mob in another country.

now China knows how it feels to have companies being stormed by an angry mob

China is not a person and no, China does not know how it feels. Only a bunch of mostly innocent Chinese know who it feels, as most these surely had nothing to do with the riots on Japanese companies in China.

This behavior is sickening. Punishing innocent people for the sins of others is sickening. That so many are so quick to condemn China but fall silent when Vietnam does the same sickening thing is sickening.

Two wrongs still don't make a right. And what did that poor Chinese man die for? Some oil? You think he so much as owned oil stocks? That could be you one day, paying the price for some stupid spat between your government and another.

State sponsored mass "patriotic" demonstrations.... /sigh.... always a recipe for disaster.

Interestingly murdered Victims are Taiwanese citizens instead of PRC citizens. Taiwan is also claimant of Paracel Island too. If Taiwan will send the Navy for settlement with Vietnam, US shoud back off from involvement between them. Otherwise, there will be fight between ally vs ally. Taiwan has already lost one fisherman because of Phillipines and blood has been boiling for sometimes. It is the right moment or showing neighbors "little pepper can be often the hottest."

State sponsored nationalist movement should target the responsible PRC authority. Killing foreigners and destroying foreign business will make Vietnam losing more friends and becoming impoverished nation.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-14/vietnamese-mob-burns-foreign-factories-anti-china-riots

@BurakuminDes.. Thats nice of the Vietnam PM to text his citizens: how about now he allows them to vote in an election some time, or allow opposition parties?

I believe that will come soon enough after this event....

@driftnet

Exactly right. Mob rule is never an approach that can be justified regardless of the colors being flown.

A country creating maritime borders that do not in any way adhere to international standards, like claiming exclusive economic zones for oneself but denying them to its neighbors is clearly in the wrong and no rhetoric from the standard dictionary is going to justify it.

Targeting of Chinese companies by angry Vietnamese mobs however is not the solution.

Is it really defending their nation or rob factories in the name of that?

If only the North Vietnamese hadn't made so much trouble for the U.S. back in the 70s, Vietnam wouldn't have this problem with China today.

@BurakuminDesMAY. 16, 2014 - 03:50PM JST Thats nice of the Vietnam PM to text his citizens: how about now he allows them to vote in an election some time, or allow opposition parties?

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Vietnam elects on national level a head of state - the president - and a legislature. The National Assembly (Quoc Hoi) has 498 members, elected for a five-year term. Vietnam is a single-party state. This means that only one political party, the Communist Party of Vietnam is legally allowed to hold effective power. At the last elections, 20 May 2007, only the Vietnamese Fatherland Front, a front of the Communist Party of Vietnam, mass organizations and affiliated, and some non-partisans were allowed to participate. 1 member is self-nominated and is not a member of the VFF. 42 seats were won by non-party candidates. The president is elected for a five-year term by the parliament. More than 99% of all candidates were selected by Communist Party and most of them were from their own party

Communist China has been snubbing it's nose at diplomacy for a long time now. Instead of acting like a civilized 21st century advanced nation they have been acting like a 19th century Imperialist thug. Now, their eggs are beginning to hatch and those chicken are coming home to roost.

If Communist China had used a different tactic with it's neighbor and acted like a real leader they would have found a way around all their spats. But, when you deal with 10 year old bullies you can't expect that bully to act any other way.

Communist China is the Architect of all this and to try and blame anyone else would be a joke. I have read how some folks try and point blame for these riots at the US, Japan, the West or the boogeyman. But, like I said, Communist China just needs to stare into a mirror to see who designed these riots.

Now, Communist China continues with the path they have chosen then things will get even worst for them in other nations. The ball is in Communist China's court right now. They can try to act responsible and change that path or face more anger throughout Asia.

All that money, but nowhere to spend it would be a waste.

FlyfalconMay. 16, 2014 - 05:13PM JST Interestingly murdered Victims are Taiwanese citizens instead of PRC citizens. Taiwan is also claimant of Paracel Island too.

You noticed that too. But, also let us remember that rioters never distinguish between nationalities when they are rioting.

FlyfalconMay. 16, 2014 - 05:13PM JST If Taiwan will send the Navy for settlement with Vietnam, US shoud back off from involvement between them. Otherwise, there will be fight between ally vs ally.

This is business and war isn't an option for Taiwan. Taiwan wants to continue doing business in Vietnam and the loss of one (1) won't add up to a Causes Beli.

FlyfalconMay. 16, 2014 - 05:13PM JST Taiwan has already lost one fisherman because of Phillipines and blood has been boiling for sometimes. It is the right moment or showing neighbors "little pepper can be often the hottest."

Your right move will never happen, Taiwan isn't wanting to go to war just because they lost one life. Again, Taiwan isn't looking for a Causes Beli.

FlyfalconMay. 16, 2014 - 05:13PM JST State sponsored nationalist movement should target the responsible PRC authority. Killing foreigners and destroying foreign business will make Vietnam losing more friends and becoming impoverished nation.

Any form of state sponsored rioting is wrong and should never happen. But, what do you expect when you deal with Communist regimes.

TohkaMay. 16, 2014 - 04:34PM JST State sponsored mass "patriotic" demonstrations.... /sigh.... always a recipe for disaster.

Nailed it, but it is ironic how the chickens are coming home to roost for Communist China. This is just the beginning, put an idea into one persons head and the that idea will become a way in a mass of people. This sort of response might just catch on in the whole of Asia is Communist China doesn't change the way it treats it's neighbors.

CliffyMay. 16, 2014 - 09:22PM JST Is it really defending their nation or rob factories in the name of that?

I would say a little of both. As with all riots there will be theft, looting and death.

driftnetMay. 16, 2014 - 04:20PM JST Only a bunch of mostly innocent Chinese know who it feels, as most these surely had nothing to do with the riots on Japanese companies in China.

So you have first hand knowledge of this? Let is remember, in Communist China every single corporation, land, person grain of sand is state owned in one way or another, so yes Communist China is feeling this.

driftnetMay. 16, 2014 - 04:20PM JST This behavior is sickening. Punishing innocent people for the sins of others is sickening.

Exactly, glad to see you feel this way.

So, how do you feel about the way people today in Japan are being blamed for the acts that were committed by their grandparents?

driftnetMay. 16, 2014 - 04:20PM JST That so many are so quick to condemn China but fall silent when Vietnam does the same sickening thing is sickening.

It's easy to condemn Communist China because they have so many faults.

driftnetMay. 16, 2014 - 04:20PM JST Two wrongs still don't make a right.

Right again! Wow, I like the way you think. So, you also don't blame todays Japanese for the past sins of their fathers!

driftnetMay. 16, 2014 - 04:20PM JST And what did that poor Chinese man die for? Some oil? You think he so much as owned oil stocks? That could be you one day, paying the price for some stupid spat between your government and another.

Violence is never a solution discussion and calm is. But, if a thug and his friends came into your yard and starts digging it up that might make you mad. So, the blame is a two-way road here.

Communist China's actions resulted in an opposite reaction be the Vietnamese. If Communist China had never done what they are doing the Vietnamese would never have reacted the way they have.

Ample blame to go around.

JoeBigs

Obviously you did not read up to date news before you posted. Taiwan has lost more than one. How on earth you are sure that only one death? There are hundred of injured workers in hospital. There may be more deaths among them.

Taiwan has invested more than 500 billions in Vietnam employing poor locals. Although damage bill will not be that amount, it is no longer interested in doing business with Vietnam. Vietnam is master in hiding for paying the damage bill as Guerrilla war with US.

Imagine your properties have been torched. Your employee have been killed. Your business has lost the protection from authority. How would you respond? Just go and kiss the boots of corrupted officials? PRC is safer destination for Taiwan business even it is more expensive.

Again there is difference between PRC anti Japanese riot and Vietnam anti Chinese anti riot. No Japanese got scratch and no ones died during PRC riot. PRC protect foreigners like you and me my friend! Not Vietnam! Business is not politics. Whether you hate or dislike PRC, there is no enemy in business for choosing Ally.

Uncle Obama has toured S E Asia before with "Yes! We can slogan". Now Vietnam request for help has been politely ignored. Therefore US is the back stabbing neighbors without commitment for real action. It is loose cannon which lacks the substance. The more US provoke, the more tension will rise.

Taiwan should ignore US lecture and sugar coated words as unreliable commitment. If there are more deaths to come from innocent people, It has to Show "Little pepper taste" to ungrateful Neighbors. Asian pivots has been loosens because of distrust and hate among neighbors. The dream of Asian NATO will not become during our life time.

FlyfalconMay. 17, 2014 - 08:09AM JST Obviously you did not read up to date news before you posted. Taiwan has lost more than one. How on earth you are sure that only one death? There are hundred of injured workers in hospital. There may be more deaths among them.

1 or 200 don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Business is business and it shall keep chugging along. Wars are started when countries want to go to war not when people die due to riots.

Taiwan isn't looking to go to war with anyone, so your premise has little value.

FlyfalconMay. 17, 2014 - 08:09AM JST Taiwan has invested more than 500 billions in Vietnam employing poor locals. Although damage bill will not be that amount, it is no longer interested in doing business with Vietnam. Vietnam is master in hiding for paying the damage bill as Guerrilla war with US.

Why do you keep trying to blame the US for this? The US of A has nothing to do with this. Now you are saying will leave. But, reality is that come next month Taiwan will continue doing business in Vietnam the same as before the riots. As for the damage bill, well that is what insurance is for.

FlyfalconMay. 17, 2014 - 08:09AM JST Imagine your properties have been torched. Your employee have been killed. Your business has lost the protection from authority. How would you respond? Just go and kiss the boots of corrupted officials? PRC is safer destination for Taiwan business even it is more expensive.

I see you have little business experience.

Let me begin with a little reminder, the Japanese companies went through the same hoopla when the Communist Party decided to mobilize it's paid protesters and they didn't move out, now did they. Why would the Taiwan business move out?

As I said before, all corporations have insurance and if they don't they don't deserve to be in business.

FlyfalconMay. 17, 2014 - 08:09AM JST Again there is difference between PRC anti Japanese riot and Vietnam anti Chinese anti riot.

No, there wasn't, both were instigated and promoted by their Communist governments. Communist China paid some of their protesters 100 Yuan.

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/09/28/anti-japan-demos-in-china-some-people-were-mobilized-by-chinese-authorities-offer-of-100-yuan/

FlyfalconMay. 17, 2014 - 08:09AM JST No Japanese got scratch and no ones died during PRC riot. PRC protect foreigners like you and me my friend! Not Vietnam! Business is not politics. Whether you hate or dislike PRC, there is no enemy in business for choosing Ally.

There you are wrong, Japanese people were harassed and some were attacked. And some Chinese citizens were beaten just because they owned Japanese products.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRy1FyBc-pU

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/09/17/chinese-person-dragged-out-of-car-and-beaten-for-driving-toyota-during-anti-japan-protests-%e3%80%90contains-graphic-imagery%e3%80%91/

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1036688/japan-warns-citizens-china-after-assaults

FlyfalconMay. 17, 2014 - 08:09AM JST Uncle Obama has toured S E Asia before with "Yes! We can slogan". Now Vietnam request for help has been politely ignored. Therefore US is the back stabbing neighbors without commitment for real action. It is loose cannon which lacks the substance. The more US provoke, the more tension will rise. So the US is the one that owns rig 981 and not Communist China, got it. Someone best complain about all those US ships masking themselves to look exactly like Communist Chinese Naval warships and Coast Guard vessels!

Uncle Obama? Are you related to President Obama?

Now the fun part, how dare those evil Americans claim 90% of the South China sea! Sure they say they have ancient maps, but those maps were.......wait a second, the Communist Chinese are the ones who own rig 981 and are making those insane claims not the Americans!

Where do you come up with this stuff? Whoever is writing your TPMs tell them to try and keep it realistic at least.

FlyfalconMay. 17, 2014 - 08:09AM JST Taiwan should ignore US lecture and sugar coated words as unreliable commitment. If there are more deaths to come from innocent people, It has to Show "Little pepper taste" to ungrateful Neighbors. Asian pivots has been loosens because of distrust and hate among neighbors. The dream of Asian NATO will not become during our life time.

Wow, your just batting fouls all over the field. How about trying to keep it where it belongs, Vietnam's anger over Communist China's invasion.

The US of A has nothing to do with this, try harder.

JoeBigs

I have realized that one Chinese national driving Toyota has got head injury. Have you been to Shanghai during riot? My Japanese business friends were cruising and drinking on Boats. No one lost the sleep back then. There were some properties damage of J business. Comparing with current riot, scale was smaller. Do not believe the exaggeration. PRC can not afford to lose Japan high end supply chain. Majority of Japanese engineers and managers love to live and work there due to low cost of living instead of being unemployed in Japan.

Parcel Island has been under control by PRC since 1979. What took it so long for PRC for reclaiming land from undersea with oil rig? Why did Vietnam have to wait so patiently for making riot? They have agreement for no doing exploration before the Asia pivot has been introduced. PRC has waited patiently for Obama assurance for Vietnam that Uncle Sam will never let you down. Vietnam has been deceived with sugar coated words.

If Obama said! Yes! We can! Vietnam, Taiwan and Phlipines will say No You cann't! He talks too much! However he lacks the action.

JoeBigs

If Obama say "Do not cross the red line". PRC will cross the Yellow sea and Yalu river.

Taiwan will not let her people slaughtered by in the name of liberation of S E Asia from PRC. US should explain that both Vietnam and Philippines that Taiwan is not target for releasing their anger. Scape Goat can not forever please the master for letting her people as sacrifice animals. It is the human rights violation for Geo Political interest.

Business needs stable and protective environment. When the trust is lost it will not come back my friend. Whether I have business experience or not, I am not working for someone else like you. Free as the birds. It is time for US for showing the leadership as blocking the PRC project on the disputed water. Time for action! Without US involvement. PRC will become wild beast.