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Virus testing in U.S. is dropping, even as deaths mount

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By MATTHEW PERRONE, NICKY FORSTER and MICHELLE LIU

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If you don't have it, you will after lining up for hours for a test, and some nurse who has contact with many sick people shoving a q tip up your nose.

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If you don't have it, you will after lining up for hours for a test, and some nurse who has contact with many sick people shoving a q tip up your nose.

Isn't that exactly the same as if you do have it?

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U.S. testing for the coronavirus is dropping even as infections remain high and the death toll rises by more than 1,000 a day, a worrisome trend

But apparently not worrisome to the Trump administration. Trump and his fellow 'elite' have the best healthcare available. They can get tested whenever they feel necessary. Unlike those in the general population.

Trump and the Republicans trying to more firmly establish their brand of plutocracy know which demographics are getting hit the hardest by the virus and its aftereffects. They know the highest percentage of Americans killed by the virus (155,000 or so), sickened by the virus (roughly 5,000,000) and those who have lost jobs with no job prospects are not well-heeled Republicans.

Instead of Trump caring about the general population of Americans, he's using taxpayer moneys to be shared among the .01% - 1% knowing many of them will kick back some of that money to his and his fellow Republicans election campaigns.

America gets sicker each day Trump's in office.

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July 1st, my "zip code" had ... let me check ...

253 cases on July 1.

708 cases on August 1.

749 today - Aug 5

There are about 66K people living in this ZIP in 23K homes. In my county,

ANYONE can now be tested for FREE, regardless of symptoms. To be tested, you must submit an online testing referral form.

That's a pretty low barrier for testing if you believe you may have been exposed.

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COVID Deaths on 1 Aug:

Spain - 0

France - 11

Germany - 0

Australia - 7

Japan - 1

US - 1244

Kind'a says it all doesn't it...

This is what happens when we elect a failed businessman and former reality TV host who has done nothing but ignore the virus and spread false and misleading information...

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Fits right into trump’s plan, the less you test the lesser cases there will be.

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Fits right into trump’s plan, the less you test the lesser cases there will be.

Except he screwed himself here. If there are less tests, there will be less cases alright. However, he stated on the Axios interview that he considers the ranking of a country's performance on managing covid to be the CFR (Case Fatality Rate) - the number of fatalities per the number of diagnosed cases. But if they start testing less, they will diagnose less cases. With less cases, the CFR (number of fatalities/number of cases) will be higher.

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If you are sick, stay home. If you go into a testing center and do not have the covid 19 virus, instead some other less vicious respiratory illness, you will catch it while there. There's nothing they can do anyway unless you are sick enough for hospital.

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With less cases, the CFR (number of fatalities/number of cases) will be higher.

Come on Strangerland, let’s not bring logic into the discussion. We know well that logic has nothing to do with trump’s agenda.

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Coronavirus deaths per 100,000

U.S. 48

Belgium 86

Britain 70

Spain 61

Italy 58

France 45

New York 167

Arizona 53

Florida 34

Texas 27

Kinda says it all, doesn't it...

Ingraham: The real COVID record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alJDB2N3XfU&t=652s

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This is what happens when we elect a failed businessman and former reality TV host who has done nothing but ignore the virus and spread false and misleading information...

Wrong on all counts.

Ingraham: The real COVID record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alJDB2N3XfU&t=652s

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“You have to look at the cases. We’re last which means we’re first”

I guess that means as much as “You just have to study it out”

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But apparently not worrisome to the Trump administration. Trump and his fellow 'elite' have the best healthcare available.

As do the governors and mayors in these infected cities and their solution to this is? How are they utilizing their power and resources to help these poor people in the general population.

Trump and the Republicans trying to more firmly establish their brand of plutocracy know which demographics are getting hit the hardest by the virus and its aftereffects. They know the highest percentage of Americans killed by the virus (155,000 or so), sickened by the virus (roughly 5,000,000) and those who have lost jobs with no job prospects are not well-heeled Republicans. 

And yet these governors and mayors are not doing anything about it, why is it to other countries and allow people to go to work and isolate the hotspots in the US these governors want everything together, they don’t want children to learn, most schools allow kids to go back and see if contained conditions and we can send people to the moon, but we can’t properly insured the safety of kids to go back to school? Give me a break.

Instead of Trump caring about the general population of Americans, he's using taxpayer moneys to be shared among the .01% - 1% knowing many of them will kick back some of that money to his and his fellow Republicans election campaigns.

I’m sure all these rich liberal job creator leaders in Google, Facebook, Twitter, Yaho, Apple and Microsoft would be looking forward to a Biden presidency where they would get pinched and hard, don’t kid yourself.

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Ingraham: The real COVID record

Ingraham 

Next you’re going to tell us you believe CNN too! Talk about being a victim of the fakestream fake news MSM.

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As do the governors and mayors in these infected cities and their solution to this is? How are they utilizing their power and resources to help these poor people in the general population.

How DARE anyone try to criticize the Dearest Leader of the nation, for the nation's complete and abject failure at managing the virus. How DARE they. Don't they know the buck stops there and that it's always someone else's fault? Yeesh.

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It is also worth mention that numbers reported for Aug 1 (as an example) are not the people who died on Aug 1. Some of those people passed away even late June, depending on how each state reports their data.

So the deaths reported on an individual date really tell us nothing about trends.

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So the deaths reported on an individual date really tell us nothing about trends.

Ahh, this clearly proves Trump has actually been a success at dealing with the virus!

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*How DARE anyone try to criticize the Dearest Leader of the nation, for the nation's complete and abject failure at managing the virus. How DARE they. Don't they know the buck stops there and that it's always someone else's fault? Yeesh.*

Ok, ok, yeah, yeah, lol...so now back to my original question, how are the governors and mayors in these mostly liberal cities where all the carnage and destruction has and is still taking place dealing with the out of control and growing homeless population and the destruction of buildings of public and private property and how are they coping with the lockdown and not allowing people to work or kids to attend school whereas in other countries have managed to implement systems to ease restrictions and or to allow people to work and make money and kids to go back to school in a safe manner? I get it The teachers union they don’t want it, but for the majority of people that actually do want the kids to go back to school, what are these local and state leaders doing about it?

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Why is this news? Everyone knows the west are bunch of fools. They cant even wear masks, the fools.

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Ingraham: The real COVID record

Great joke. Ingraham sure has been right all along, right? "It's just the flu"....

It is also worth mention that numbers reported for Aug 1 (as an example) are not the people who died on Aug 1. Some of those people passed away even late June, depending on how each state reports their data. So the deaths reported on an individual date really tell us nothing about trends.

Wow, listen to that Maytag spinning.... That's so weak. What about "daily" death rates don't you understand?

Fact: The US is leading the world in infections and deaths.

Fact: The Virus is surging in states that opened too early.

Fairy tales in Trump-world; The virus is a hoax, its just one person from China, it's contained, disinfectant is a cure, Alien DNA-infused HCQ is a cure, having your pastor blow away the virus is a sure...

And the most damning; "It is what it is"....

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*Exactly! Because people must NOT dare to ask these questions of the Dearest Leader. They MUST *NOT

Ok, like most liberals, do you want to get governors and mayors of their states a pass. I guess it seems like the easiest way worm out. I mean, it works well for the DeBlasio....

The crime rate is rising to unprecedented levels in New York homeless population is rising, attacks on the police and all the problems of New York it’s everyone else’s fault except for the mayor as well as the governor running that state. Lol

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Ok, like most liberals, do you want to get governors and mayors of their states a pass.

Ok, like most Republcians, do you want to get Trump, the leader of his country, a pass?

I guess it seems like the easiest way worm out.

Yes, giving Trump a pass definitely seems like the easiest way to worm out.

I mean, it works well for the DeBlasio....

I mean, you guys have been giving him passes all along...

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I understand that they are a compilation of several days/weeks of deaths. Not an indication of who died on a specific day. I also understand that NY/NJ is still responsible for around 1/4 of the entire total.

What about "daily" death rates don't you understand?

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Less testing? No clearer sign than this that Trump is already "tired of winning". Our "inner Trump", who we all hate, must be fiercely resisted and overcome, or else he will dictate the course of the next 90 days. That would be a victory for the virus, but would be the worst outcome for America and the world.

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As of 8/5, NPR has this graph about deaths per capita in the world:

https://apps.npr.org/dailygraphics/graphics/covid-global-deaths-20200805/?initialWidth=737&childId=responsive-embed-covid-global-deaths-20200805

The US is ranked #8. Behind Chile, Sweden, Italy, Spain, Peru, UK, Belgium which have higher death rates per 100K people. Brazil and France are slightly lower.

I would have expected Sweden, UK, Belgium, France and the US to do better a year ago. Reality sucks.

There is some unexpected information about Japanese and Korean people related to Covid. Their death rates are extremely low and nobody knows why. Lots of theories exist. Each makes sense - cultural social distancing, hygiene, people listening to the govt, wearing masks already, better overall health for the people, and one other is that Japan and Korea have seen similar COVID viruses which explains how Korean and Japanese white blood cells have a faster attack than the typical European would. Nobody knows for sure, the deaths per 100K of 0.8 and 0.6 are extremely significant for Japan and Korea, respectively. Interesting.

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Looking at Trump’s appalling approval rating on handling Covid, it looks like the majority of US people feel he carries blame.

His hardcore supporters won’t budge but the numbers are there.

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What about "daily" death rates don't you understand?

I understand that they are a compilation of several days/weeks of deaths. Not an indication of who died on a specific day. I also understand that NY/NJ is still responsible for around 1/4 of the entire total.

Well your understanding is wrong, not surprisingly. Go to a dictionary and look up the word "daily"....you see it means "each day"....

As in Trump eats six Big Macs each day.....not every two days, or five days, or week....

And NY total deaths yesterday was "4"...

Florida's was "245"......

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And NY total deaths yesterday was "4"...

Florida's was "245"......

Someone's not going to like their narrative destroyed...

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But somehow the coronavirus isnt only yesterday.

Whats the totals since Day 1 look like?

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Deblasio and Cuomo did an excellent job, that’s the reason why you’re seeing the murder rate go up and you seen the discount rate go up, because they’re doing an exemplary job, they are helpful to the police they give them everything that they need, they’re doing a great job with the elderly and doing a great job and making sure that people have everything they need is for assistance and financial support and everyone seems happy in New York. Lol

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But somehow the coronavirus isnt only yesterday

Whats the totals since Day 1 look like?

The US people are looking at the ongoing situation.

Confidence in Trump’s ability to deal with this is sinking like a brick. Do you remember posting about Trump’s great approval ratings on Covid before it all went pear-shaped?

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Confidence in Trump’s ability to deal with this is sinking like a brick.

As is The governors and mayors presiding over the cities.

Do you remember posting about Trump’s great approval ratings on Covid before it all went pear-shaped?

Yes and I also posted how more people are rebelling against any lockdown or closed schools.

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Kind'a says it all doesn't it...

This is what happens when we elect a failed businessman and former reality TV host who has done nothing but ignore the virus and spread false and misleading information...

Has nothing to do with Trump and has everything to do with most American being unhealthy.

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I agree.

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Twitter just suspended the Trump campaign Twitter account for spreading false information about covid. This comes on the heels of Trump Jr's account being suspended for also spreading false information about covid.

Seems they are having a problem with honesty over there.

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You have some proof that this doctor was lying when she said she successfully treated over 350 COVID patients with HCQ?

Yes: hydroxychloroquine has been proven, in numerous studies, to have no positive effect in the treatment of coronavirus. The White House has confirmed this.

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NYC had massive issues early on but they listened to the experts and got things under control. Other states decided to ignore that example and now their cases are out of control.

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Serrano:. Why doesn't Twitter, Facebook and Youtube let viewers decide if it's true or not?

Because it's not true. The only thing you are defending is the spread of confirmed disinformation.

Why would those companies want to be involved in that?

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If trump would stick to the truth he’d have no reason to be scared of his posts getting fact checked.

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Serrano:. Why doesn't Twitter, Facebook and Youtube let viewers decide if it's true or not?

Because it's not true. 

But you don't have any proof it's not true.

 hydroxychloroquine has been proven, in numerous studies, to have no positive effect in the treatment of coronavirus

Really? Oh my...

Study shows hydroxychloroquine cut death rates in some coronavirus patients

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PdVFslBmWw

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But you don't have any proof it's not true.

You don't have to believe it if you don't want to. Changes nothing.

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Alarmist and biased.  Serrano's post tells the proper story.

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Because it's not true. 

But you don't have any proof it's not true.

 hydroxychloroquine has been proven, in numerous studies, to have no positive effect in the treatment of coronavirus

Really? Oh my...

Study shows hydroxychloroquine cut death rates in some coronavirus patients

I couldn’t agree more, but let’s just listen to one side of the medical research argument.

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let’s just listen to one side of the medical research argument.

Bingo!

Liberals think Trump is crazy for suggesting we inject ourselves with Lysol, but I want to hear both sides of the medical research argument.

And I’m going to stop wearing a seat belt because some people survive car crashes without them.

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It’s astounding how Trump supporters contort themselves into pretzels to defend a man who is clearly an imbecile.

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Study shows hydroxychloroquine cut death rates in some coronavirus patients

The study doesn't show what Tucker says it does. The Henry Ford Medical Center says itself that its study is not definitive.

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/08/hydroxychloroquine-an-open-letter

Come on. Even the White House accepts that hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for coronavirus.

Why can't you?

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Liberals think Trump is crazy for suggesting we inject ourselves with Lysol,

He hasn’t said it again, don’t worry.

It’s astounding how Trump supporters contort themselves into pretzels to defend a man who is clearly an imbecile.

With over 289 Documented accomplishments, hardly.

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With over 289 Documented accomplishments, hardly.

Accomplishments like "once nearly said a whole sentence correctly" or "almost didn't tell a brazen lie for an entire hour".

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Accomplishments like "once nearly said a whole sentence correctly" or "almost didn't tell a brazen lie for an entire hour

Then you need to listen to Biden’s their funnier.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

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It doesn't bother you that "accomplishments" like "North Korea stopped its nuclear testing" isn't true? Or that "the economy might possibly grow by 3%!" has been replaced with "the economy contracted by 33%"?

Who am I kidding, of course it doesn't.

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With over 289 Documented accomplishments, hardly.

Didn’t this used to be 310 or something?

Are even the White House un-accomplishing Trump?

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Didn’t this used to be 310 or something?

Yes when you add in the recent ones

Are even the White House un-accomplishing Trump?

They wouldn’t need to Joe on the other hand was for the most part.

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