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Voters skeptical of Biden's age, but Trump's flubs risk drawing unwelcome attention, too

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--Trump increased ND by $8 trillion. To date, Biden has less than $4 trillion.

The left keep saying this, but ok, let’s say that we’re even true, at the rate Biden is going that will exceed anything Trump piled on. Why? Because Dems will never say No to money or spending…ever.

Your "opinion" is wrong. Here are the % increases of national debt by president as of June:

Biden 6.33%

Trump 40.43%

Obama 69.98%

G.W. Bush 105.08%

Clinton 31.64%

G.H.W. Bush 54.39%

Reagan 186.36%

These are facts, not "the left's" opinions.

15 ( +16 / -1 )

He tripped and fell 8 times this year

he lost his train of thought 12 times this year? 

He shook hands with imaginary people? 

Wow, sounds like Trump is losing it. Time for a retirement home for Trump.

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And now Biden doubling that.

Incorrect. Trump's deficits exceeded any of Biden's to-date.

11 ( +11 / -0 )

bass4funk

Trump looks way more flaky when he is speaking -

He speaks from his heart and unlike Biden and Obama the guy doesn’t need a teleprompter,

Yes he does.

11 ( +13 / -2 )

bass4funk

Such as increasing the national debt by more than any President before or after him.

> And now Biden doubling that.

You posted Biden has increased the ND by $33 trillion, the total of the current amount.

Trump increased ND by $8 trillion. To date, Biden has less than $4 trillion.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

Such as increasing the national debt by more than any President before or after him.

And now Biden doubling that

What figures are you working with?

10 ( +11 / -1 )

Trump almost never uses a teleprompter

He should.

10 ( +11 / -1 )

bass4funk

Yes he does.

Trump almost never uses a teleprompter

Mainly because he has trouble reading. Lack of practice, I guess. But without one he rambles and rambles.

Obama and Biden don't ramble.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

bass4funk

care to explain if Biden added $33 trillion to the ND why the current level of ND is $33 trillion and according to your claim would make it more than $60 trillion. The straightforward facts are available. Check Biden must be hiding the true level of the ND.

10 ( +11 / -1 )

What’s the exact figure and where can we find this?

Everywhere

This is just bad faith.

It’s poor form to waste people’s time like this.

10 ( +11 / -1 )

Both men are making a few minor mental slips that comes with age. The key thing is who gets the big issues right and who is thinking clearly.

Trump's speeches are nothing more than an incoherent stream of consciousness. He won't read his speeches any more because he's too vain to wear his glasses. He does it with energy and vigour.

Biden's speeches are thoughtful, and deal with the issues. His presentation is dreadful.

It is no surprise that Trump became a successful TV host.

But Biden has a very successful record - record low unemployment and high economic growth. He struggles to get recognition for it, however.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

Trump has the rhetorical ability of an angry 3 year old. He just babbles about anything that floats into his head and talks complete rubbish. He is almost unintelligible. How can anyone elect someone like that into political office? I hope America chooses 'dementia' over 'demented'.

You'd think that a superpower could come up with one, competent, intelligible and trustworthy person of working age to run for president.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

The what is he said he and his family didn’t do business in China and got no money from China.

So what? Does it mean it's not corruption if you have business interests in China? Very interesting.

Also, let's not lose sight of the irony that same folks that cheered and supported when Trump refused to release his taxes, are now claiming corruption because Biden didn't disclose he got a check from his brother when he wasn't in office, and wasn't even campaigning for office. Give me a break.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Trump has the vocabulary of a stupid 3rd grader and his frontal cortex is mush.

Didn’t even know what the Triad was or why the US entered WWII.

Botched the biggest public health crisis in a century, cratered the economy, increased the debt more than all of his predecessors, oh… and tried to overthrow the government.

but sure, let’s give him another chance.

The actual head of lettuce used to time out Liz Truss’ term would be a better choice.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Yes it is when you have NO business.

Why do you care what private citizens do? You certainly do have a different standard when it comes to the Trumps.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Trump almost never uses a teleprompter

Correction: He never STAYS on teleprompter. You can tell when he starts because he speaks in low energy complete sentences.

Then he free-wheels and goes into a good impression of a bi-polar depressive off his meds and speaks a language that only meth heads and their long-suffering loved ones understand.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

they were leaked. And also released. What did you find?

Not my point. You repeatedly claimed Trump didn't have to release his tax returns. Now your demanding Biden release his financial records. Why? If you don't think Trump needed to, why do you think Biden needs to?

Again, let's not pretend that the GOP hasn't repeatedly used publicly funded investigations to repeatedly launch spurious investigations on opponents. They've got a long history of doing just that. This isn't the first time this Congress has claimed to find evidence of "Biden corruption" only to be proven it's nothing. So no, I don't believe any of the silly rightwing conspiracy theories. I also don't believe they're serious at all about corruption.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

[Trump] has over 280 accomplishments.

Such as increasing the national debt by more than any President before or after him.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Apart from being a crook and an oathbreaker who'll soon have to serve elsewhere, Trump's not senile, he's just a moron, and bigly ignorant with it. Biden is just too old and unfit for the job. Young people need an inspiring, competent president with a vision for the future, not another grandpa.

8 ( +11 / -3 )

Trump increased ND by $8 trillion. To date, Biden has less than $4 trillion.

Even in his financial incontinence, Trump is able to outdo his opponents.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

hard simplified facts.

Show me your "simplified" facts.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Are you still using the figures which say Biden has added over 30 trillion to the debt?

Yes

What’s the exact figure and where can we find this?

I’ve never come across anyone apart from yourself making the claim that Biden has added over 30 trillion.

This is an important point. If what you say is true, the debt as it stands would be around double what every source I can find states it to be.

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Simple choice: don’t vote for the inept narcissistic con man crook who led an insurrection against the United States.

I don’t give a rats if Biden appears old. He’s competent, compassionate, thoughtful, and honors the Constitution.

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By contrast, “so much of Trump’s base of support has been willing to overlook much more significant flaws than simply age,” Crowder-Meyer said, including four indictments totaling 91 criminal counts and persistent lies about widespread fraud costing him reelection in 2020.

Trump looks way more flaky when he is speaking - he keeps thinking the Obama is president, etc.

And then there is the four indictments. There is no way he doesn't get fallout from that.

But the main reason Trump is by far the worst candidate is that he is a narcissistic, self-serving, unintelligent, useless, fascist who achieved nothing in his first term.

7 ( +18 / -11 )

his cognitive abilities decrease every time we see him,

Stop watching rightwing propaganda.

he’s just the mouthpiece vehicle

I thought he was the head of a "crime family".

He speaks from his heart

True. His infantile egotism, inanity, pettiness, vindictiveness, and meanness are open for all to see. Some people are repulsed by this ugliness. Others are attracted by it because they hate "the left" so baaaaaad.

that’s why our adversaries fear him

Example?

they think he’s crazy which he is 

OK. You're on record. You think Trump is crazy. You want a crazy man to be leader of the free world.

He has over 280 accomplishments.

According to Trump. He's a blowhard.

7 ( +15 / -8 )

Biden and Trump are too old to be president. There should be an age limit of 70.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

Trump's behavior in court and otherwise is showing me his cognitive ability has dropped a great deal. It isn't just the mistakes he's making verbally, he is visibly confused, and it's his expressions which shows the face of an old man who doesn't understand what or why things are happening.

He has a dazed look of one in a nursing home, and we hadn't seen that before. With every lie he has told in the past, his ability to talk boldly in his alternative facts was a talent he possessed, but as confusion begins to build, that ability loses effectiveness as a weak minded, powerless individual.

'A very sad thing to see. You know....when I look in a mirror...it lies...it's telling a sad, sad story. Very sad. by the way, I love Sioux City. Sioux City is where I am. Sioux City. Yes, you all came from Sioux City, and Sioux City is here. Sioux City is a happy place. Sioux City...'

7 ( +10 / -3 )

bass4funk

Yes he does.

> Trump almost never uses a teleprompter

Because he reads from comics.

Trump increased ND by $8 trillion. To date, Biden has less than $4 trillion.

The left keep saying this, but ok, let’s say that we’re even true, at the rate Biden is going that will exceed anything Trump piled on. Why? Because Dems will never say No to money or spending…ever.

You can't deny the facts. The forum is still waiting for an answer on your claim Biden increased ND by $33 trillion.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

7 ( +9 / -2 )

Both should be put out to pasture.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Yeah avoid the elephant...Biden flubbing into warmonger defense contractor mode.

Fizzbit......The first year in office Trump bombed Syria and wanted bomb Iran because his Saudi benefactors were willing to pay him and his family handsomely.

Remember that?

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Fortunately, he’s going to make a pit stop in prison on his way to Hell, so….

7 ( +8 / -1 )

care to explain if Biden added $33 trillion to the ND why the current level of ND is $33 trillion and according to your claim would make it more than $60 trillion. The straightforward facts are available. Check Biden must be hiding the true level of the ND

One way we can try to make any sense of the claim that Biden has run up over 30 trillion in debt is if the debt was close to zero when he took office.

I don’t think even Trump claimed to have eliminated the debt during his term.

7 ( +9 / -2 )

Better to stay with a man that’s senile and flubs daily and his cognitive abilities decrease every time we see him

Trump?????

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4 years of 45 certainly didn’t maga.

Let’s see…

No. you yourself said it was impossible in one term. But somehow you think it’ll work next time in one term, again.

He achieved precisely diddly squat except dividing the country further.

6 ( +10 / -4 )

Trump gets a loan, legit with documents, from a bank, pays it back on time with interest: jail him, take his business licenses and his assets.

Except it wasn't legit - it was raised with fraudulent documents. As such, he committed a crime.

However, this is a civil case, not a criminal one, so Trump will not be jailed, even though the fraud was a criminal act.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

Trump increased ND by $8 trillion. To date, Biden has less than $4 trillion.

The left keep saying this, but ok, let’s say that we’re even true, at the rate Biden is going that will exceed anything Trump piled on. Why? Because Dems will never say No to money or spending…ever.

What figures are you working from? How much is Biden projected to spend?

Are you still using the figures which say Biden has added over 30 trillion to the debt?

6 ( +7 / -1 )

“For Joe Biden, there is some expectation of normal governance,” she said. "Your concern is more, 'Does this person have the capacity to accomplish my policy aims, accomplish the things that they’ve said they’re going to accomplish?'”

> By contrast, “so much of Trump’s base of support has been willing to overlook much more significant flaws than simply age,” Crowder-Meyer said, including four indictments totaling 91 criminal counts and persistent lies about widespread fraud costing him reelection in 2020.

Normal governance vs. Tricky Dick-style criminality. Actually, Trump makes Nixon look like a choir boy. Biden's got problems for sure but if tens of millions of people are willing to vote into the highest office (again!) a misogynistic, racist, lying criminal, it says a lot about the country.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Biden may be old, but he ain't as demented and senile as the guy that has said these gems recently....

"You have to have an ID to buy bread"....

"I beat Obama in 2016"....

"A very big hello to a place where we've done very well: Sioux Falls. Thank you very much, Sioux Falls," "It's great to be in Sioux Falls" (it was Sioux City)...

At a rally in New Hampshire earlier this month, he incorrectly said Viktor Orbán is the "leader of Turkey," when Orbán is actually the prime minister of Hungary.

At his rally on Sunday, he made a similar mistake when he claimed both Ukraine and Russia bordered Hungary.

It's clear Powell, Cheseboro, Ellis, and Meadows flipping have him scared and rattled...

5 ( +13 / -8 )

Another day, another check to Joe Biden of Chinese sourced money

Oh, we've on from the check from his brother for a personal loan repayment. The new scandal is "a check to Biden from Chinese sourced money." Hilarious. Okay, we believe you. :)

5 ( +12 / -7 )

But the main reason Trump is by far the worst candidate is that he is a narcissistic, self-serving, unintelligent, useless, fascist who achieved nothing in his first term

Always overlooked by the ever outraged right. The theocratic fascists want him to champion their cause to create their ultimate 1950s utopia.

5 ( +11 / -6 )

For all the criticisms of Biden as sleepy joe, the bottom line is 45 still lost to him. That’s it.

5 ( +12 / -7 )

But hating the right is good? Why?

Some people, especially those of us that grew up before far right book banning like we're seeing today along with history altering to make white people appear blameless, learned about how nasty extreme right movements have been when left unchecked; see Italy/Germany/Japan during WW2. See Russia today.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

He has over 280 accomplishments.

lmao you’ve posted your list of “accomplishments” before and it’s always crap like “thought about maybe eating a vegetable” or “managed to not poop his pants for three days in a row”.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Trump does not really want to be president. He already has all the perks of being president for life. He has the celebrity like fame/infamy on a global scale. Lifetime protection to make him untouchable regardless of what he says or does, and it is free. The secret service agents still have to call him "Mr. President". He has multiple new income streams from his cult, and the connections made in office. He wants to simply live in bubble like his wife who was an illegal immigrant and only married him for money and a green card.

Besides, he spent most of his time playing golf than being a president. He only wants to get revenge on his enemies and avoid jail. If he could do that without being president he would because the presidency draws too much attention. It is harder to run scams like before. In his mind, he is only truly safe when America becomes a dictatorship and ran by him modeled after leaders that he admires like Putin, Xi, and previously Kim. That opinion may have changed after their meetings. Trump's first couple of years, he literally told the press to stop finding out things about him and would not allow certain news companies into press meetings because of it.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Trump speaks from his wallet. not his heart. And if you are going use a body part to describe where trump speaks from it definitely not his heart.

4 ( +13 / -9 )

he incorrectly said Viktor Orbán is the "leader of Turkey," when Orbán is actually the prime minister of Hungary.

Our resident George Santos would say this incompetence is good. It keeps America's adversaries quaking in their boots, seeing this crazy man in charge.

4 ( +10 / -6 )

joe did business in China? That’s news, he claimed he and his family received no money from China.

So what? It isn't a crime to do business in China. Other presidents have done it before. Some even while in office. Now, THAT, I would say is suspicious.

They were “private citizens”.

They were private citizens. How can you seriously allege "corruption" when Biden wasn't even in office? Keep trying. :)

4 ( +6 / -2 )

plasticmonkeyToday  06:40 am JST

Simple choice: don’t vote for the inept narcissistic con man crook who led an insurrection against the United States.

I don’t give a rats if Biden appears old. He’s competent, compassionate, thoughtful, and honors the Constitution.

And Joe has a track record, diplomacy and cred. trashtrump has none of these things and isn't mature enough for the JOB of POTUS. And before anybody gets partisan here, I remember during the 80s when the oldest POTUS was Reagan Reagan and he took quite a bit of flak and crap about his age back then. During his second term he had the early stages of Alzheimer's (which didn't have a medical name yet, and his memoir book reflects all the signs of it). Yet he still was able to negotiate with the USSR and bury the Cold War hatchet. He still was able to get things done as President even though some unscrupulous administration members did dirty deeds behind his back (Iran-Contra), taking advantage of his situation.

Still, Reagan was a President, not a traitor or a fascist (unless you were in the so-called Me Generation of the 70s).

Joe is now the oldest POTUS but like Reagan he has the experience and know -how to do the job. And he is doing it, he's not an Arrogant Tin God despot like the Donald.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Voters skeptical of Biden's age, but Trump's flubs risk

How nice to think either party could back a person acceptable to all USAmericans, a candidate younger than both Biden and Trump.

One of the most worrying things to me about the clearly emotionally/mentally declining Trump (see his daily tantrums), who claims to be running for office, is that the only things I've heard him say he'll do if elected is take revenge against those upholding the Constitution and not fully backing him and his anti-American MAGA movement. he also has said (I know, you can't believe a single word he says) that he'd appease Putin/Xi and other despots, by not. challenging them.

Also recall Trump has said he wants generals like Hitler had, that is generals that would obey him and not follow the US Constitution; recall Trump wanted Black Lives Movement protesters shot, but General Milley told him no he'd follow the Consitution.

Another feather in Biden's cap is he is not into getting dressed up in cosplay outfits to sell NFTs, and Biden does not beg people to pay for his legal expenses.

3 ( +12 / -9 )

Seems an awful place to live, I understand why you don’t.

Uhhh, I don’t think you do..smh..

Is it because you prefer the gas prices, employment and mortgage rates here and have done for many years?

3 ( +5 / -2 )

He recently called Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán the leader of Turkey and has repeatedly mispronounced the militant group Hamas as “hummus.”

Sensible chuckle.

Age can be a factor,

Bernie Sanders is smarter than both of them combined at his advanced age, and draft AOC for 2024.

2 ( +11 / -9 )

Two “loans” now from CCP business deals.

Really? So what. Doing business in China is perfectly legal. The check in question was from 2017. In other words, from he was a private citizen. Where's corruption?

What else will be found? Biden crime family corruption is rampant.

LoL

Remember folks, every accusation is admission.

2 ( +10 / -8 )

Biden needs to do a fast LBJ before he screws up the Dems. He's already losing votes by the day with his egregiously inhumane support for Israeli terror bombing. A young candidate to blow away the MAGAGOP is urgently needed before Biden blows it.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

More importantly, the nation is lost since Biden’s been in office, bottom line.

I agree with you there. America is a mess but I don’t think it suddenly happened when Biden took the reins. It’s been a mess for a long time. 4 years of 45 certainly didn’t maga.

Seems an awful place to live, I understand why you don’t.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

But it’s also like, that’s the type of guy I wouldn’t want to mess with.

Another MAGA dimwit.

Trump looks especially buff when he dons his skintight American flag 'n' eagle tee.

0 ( +10 / -10 )

...and has repeatedly mispronounced the militant group Hamas as “hummus.”

I mean...that's just funny.

0 ( +5 / -5 )

So Trump is a lying con man? It seems Biden caught the bug from him.

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

Two “loans” now from CCP business deals.

240,000 dollars in total.

What else will be found? Biden crime family corruption is rampant.

-6 ( +10 / -16 )

I think Biden ,will do a LBJ when the young , minority and others abandoned him,and the party will force him to not seek another term

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

If all US has got to offer in next elections is Biden and Trump, go ahead and remove the m too. Then you'll be 'urica.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

This isn't the first time this Congress has claimed to find evidence of "Biden corruption" only to be proven it's nothing

how exactly were these two checks already proven to be “nothing” and by whom?

-6 ( +3 / -9 )

Simple choice: don’t vote for the inept narcissistic con man crook who led an insurrection against the United States. 

Better to stay with a man that’s senile and flubs daily and his cognitive abilities decrease every time we see him, so bad that his handlers have to guide and dictate to him what to say, how to say it. So in other words, he’s just the mouthpiece vehicle and the people behind him are calling the shots. No wonder his numbers as well as this administration continues to sink faster than the Titanic and these people expect our adversaries to fear this guy???? Not even in the slightest.

I don’t give a rats if Biden appears old.

You don’t, that’s ok, but millions do.

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2022-01-21/why-is-joe-biden-so-unpopular

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-approval-rating-floundering-2024-election-1839889

He’s competent, compassionate, thoughtful, and honors the Constitution.

We are talking about Joe Biden now, that’s 5 Pinocchio’s.

-7 ( +8 / -15 )

Trump?????

He tripped and fell 8 times this year

he lost his train of thought 12 times this year?

He shook hands with imaginary people?

got the person mixed up, Definitely wasn’t Trump.

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

Yes he does.

Trump almost never uses a teleprompter

Trump increased ND by $8 trillion. To date, Biden has less than $4 trillion.

The left keep saying this, but ok, let’s say that we’re even true, at the rate Biden is going that will exceed anything Trump piled on. Why? Because Dems will never say No to money or spending…ever.

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

Remember that?

not all.

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

Trump looks way more flaky when he is speaking -

He speaks from his heart and unlike Biden and Obama the guy doesn’t need a teleprompter, they tried that before and the guy was horrible.

he keeps thinking the Obama is president, etc.

Dems act as if Trump is still defacto-President, that’s why they just can’t stop going after this guy, they’re willing to burn the country down than to allow voters to have the choice and exercise their constitutional right and vote on the President of their choice.

And then there is the four indictments. There is no way he doesn't get fallout from that.

Thank God he can still run though regardless.

But the main reason Trump is by far the worst candidate is that he is a narcissistic, self-serving,

True, that’s why our adversaries fear him, they think he’s crazy which he is and that’s a good thing geopolitically.

unintelligent,

On the contrary, the people that have been unsuccessfully trying to pin whatever they can on this guy are the the unintelligent ones, 8 years and millions of US taxpayer wasted to try and nail this guy in vain.

useless, fascist who achieved nothing in his first term

He has over 280 accomplishments.

-9 ( +8 / -17 )

Stop watching rightwing propaganda.

Actually, I’m reading leftist complaints.

I thought he was the head of a "crime family".

That as well.

True. His infantile egotism, inanity, pettiness, vindictiveness, and meanness are open for all to see.

Yes, and that is what keeps the country safe. 4 years, not a single war, these leaders are crazy, but they’re not stupid.

Some people are repulsed by this ugliness.

Yes, but others like it, not to mention the guy loves to talk to the press non-stop, no handlers or bunnies to whisk him away whisper in his ear and best of all he doesn’t shake hands to imaginary people.

Others are attracted by it because they hate "the left" so baaaaaad.

But hating the right is good? Why?

Example?

All of them, take your pick. 

OK. You're on record. You think Trump is crazy. You want a crazy man to be leader of the free world.

Absolutely, that kept us safe as well as the world for 4 years, Biden is in, and the ME is on fire and it’s getting worse. Am I surprised? Nope.

According to Trump. He's a blowhard.

Which has nothing to do with his previous accomplishments.

-9 ( +6 / -15 )

Wow, sounds like Trump is losing it. Time for a retirement home for Trump.

Wrong guy, nice try. Lol

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-suffers-two-speech-gaffes-in-just-over-24-hours/ar-AA1h6Q9J

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

you have business interests in China? Very interesting.

Yes it is when you have NO business.

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

I agree with you there. America is a mess but I don’t think it suddenly happened when Biden took the reins.

It actually started in 2010

It’s been a mess for a long time.

True.

4 years of 45 certainly didn’t maga.

Let’s see…Jobs added in the initial 30 months:

Trump - 4.9 million

Biden - 2.1 million

Change in household incomes:

Under Trump - Increased by $6,400

Under Biden - Decreased by $4,000

Gasoline costs:

During Trump's term - $1.87 per gallon

Under Biden - Approaching $4 per gallon

Mortgage interest rates:

During Trump's tenure - 2.65%

Under Biden - 7%

So yeah, it’s bad, very bad under this administration.

Seems an awful place to live, I understand why you don’t.

Uhhh, I don’t think you do..smh..

-10 ( +7 / -17 )

the bottom line is 45 still lost to him. That’s it.

fortunately the voting starts again in 2 or so months.

Joe didn’t bother to even put his name on the ballot for the first primary. Epic failed pandering to Black vote.

will you be voting for Biden?

-10 ( +5 / -15 )

Trump's flubs

LOL

Yeah avoid the elephant...Biden flubbing into warmonger defense contractor mode.

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

For all the criticisms of Biden as sleepy joe, the bottom line is 45 still lost to him. That’s it.

More importantly, the nation is lost since Biden’s been in office, bottom line.

-11 ( +6 / -17 )

Such as increasing the national debt by more than any President before or after him.

And now Biden doubling that.

-11 ( +4 / -15 )

As a Democrat,I will personally campaign against Biden,Biden do not have the good sense ,that he is dealing with people more educated than he is ,by this time next year Biden will be in dementia care ,and not on the campaign trail

-11 ( +2 / -13 )

What figures are you working from? How much is Biden projected to spend?

Figures that are online, financial reports and the ND.

Are you still using the figures which say Biden has added over 30 trillion to the debt?

Yes

-11 ( +1 / -12 )

Biden or Trump might not be the nominee

-12 ( +2 / -14 )

They were “private citizens”.

and actual business. They are real estate and business people from long ago,

What’s the recent Biden “business” consist of again? What do they sell and how can I buy it?

-12 ( +2 / -14 )

Mainly because he has trouble reading.

No, you don’t need to when speaking from the cuff, that’s the coolest thing about the guy.

Lack of practice, I guess.

He’s not a politician, exactly! He doesn’t need the practice.

But without one he rambles and rambles.

That’s fine, no one will die from that and besides, he’s says a lot of funny things compared to Biden when you say, “da fu…..”

Obama and Biden don't ramble.

No, their teleprompter prohibits them from doing it.

Your "opinion" is wrong.

No, Not opinion, facts, of course the debt is rising, he’s not doing anything to bring it down, Dems don’t do that because it’s not their money, it will increase and now with the wars Biden help to start, watch that number explode.

These are facts, hard simplified facts.

-12 ( +1 / -13 )

every accusation is admission.

So what is your team admitting 91 times about classified docs, the integrity of the election, and business deals?

-13 ( +2 / -15 )

Now, tell me why it's a crime for a private citizen to do business in China?

joe did business in China? That’s news, he claimed he and his family received no money from China.

what “business” does the Biden family own? What is their product or service that even grandkids can get paid for?

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And Joe has a track record, diplomacy and cred.

Yeah, none of good and let’s not get into the 1994 Crime bill that devasted so many black families and that are still suffering to this day.

trash trump has none of these things and isn't mature enough for the JOB of POTUS. *

Yeah, he is, 280 accomplishments to prove.

And before anybody gets partisan here, I remember during the 80s when the oldest POTUS was Reagan Reagan and he took quite a bit of flak and crap about his age back then. During his second term he had the early stages of Alzheimer's (which didn't have a medical name yet, and his memoir book reflects all the signs of it). Yet he still was able to negotiate with the USSR and bury the Cold War hatchet.

We lived in different times and people didn’t have the internet and people couldn’t find things out and we didn’t have access to this information.

Still, Reagan was a President, not a traitor or a fascist

No President really was, Socialist, yeah definitely.

Joe is now the oldest POTUS

and not functioning the way a real leader should, that’s why he has handlers are watching every move he makes. Trump thankfully doesn’t have these issues.

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That did actually make me laugh.

I think so as well. Lol

What’s the exact figure and where can we find this?

Everywhere.

I’ve never come across anyone apart from yourself making the claim that Biden has added over 30 trillion.

Then you don’t get out much. Sad.

This is an important point.

It is, wait for the final tally when Biden will out of office.

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