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Wow, he's unbelievable. And anyone who donates to him are unbelievable too! He should feel lucky he's not in prison (yet) and be happy instead of asking for money when it was he who changed his life.

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I would say if he felt that his actions were correct and that he did nothing wrong, he got no worries by handing himself over.

Police custody will protect him from all the "threads", but on another news source it was said that he fears being charged. So not sure what to make of it. Same source also said that one site was the true one and all others are fake donations sites(according to his friends).

In legal matters the person who threw the 1st punch might not be the instigator/aggressor of a fight or confrontation, this what most people get wrong. There is an accepted escalation procedure for a fight/confrontation and verbal is only step 2, physical is way higher.

Looks like both sides are trying to cash in to me.

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Got to ask how did they verify the authenticity of said site, since his current whereabouts, etc are unknown besides a small circle.

And you need to provide personal info(can be faked) to register a domain and who verifies that what is posted are really his words.

Still sounds fishy on this end, pay-pal accounts can be traced as they are linked to a CC or Bank-account. But that is all online and very little physical verification, in short we don't know who uses his details/info or who posts.

If I was his lawyer I would tell him to come forward.

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In the US we're getting a lot of conflicting news stories about what happened. Enough that to me it's not surprising that the investigation is taking a long time.

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Ms. Alexander why should he feel lucky he is not in prison? Has he been tried and convicted of a crime? Or is he guilty in your mind because of media bias? Were you there? I wasn't that is why I reserve judgement until the facts come out. If his side of the story is correct should he have just let somebody bash his head in? Would you?

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photoman333.

Agree, but why he doesn't come forward and have his side of the story(we can't hear the other anymore) corroborated by CSI-methods, etc. Would speed up things a lot.

I am sure by now the cops and legal departments got a lot of evidence, etc about what truly happened and the true sequence of events. Just not made public till the actual court-case.

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Why don't people trust the system. Anthony was not guilty as was OJ. If you do not trust in our system, then try moving to North Korea or Cuba or some other fine places.

The man is innocent until proven guilty by a jury of his peers. Luv America

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For a split split second I thought MAYBE Zimmerman was asking for the donations in order to give the Martin family some for of compensation and to show remorse, but I should have known better from this scumbag. He's now asking for donations and playing the victim when EVERYTHING that transgressed that night did so because of his own actions.

warallthetime: "I wasn't that is why I reserve judgement until the facts come out."

I agree with you about media bias on BOTH sides, but when, pres tel, are the 'facts' going to come out? Why aren't we seeing photographs taken by EMTs of Zimmerman's injuries? It sounds like nothing is going to cleared up and it'll all be hearsay since one person is dead and we have to take the other's word, and since others on the scene have conflicting stories.

"If his side of the story is correct should he have just let somebody bash his head in? Would you?"

I wouldn't have stalked a man because of his ethnicity then confronted him for picking up skittles and iced tea, so I never would have put myself in that situation, which is what Zimmerman did. Zimmerman took an absolutely NON-dangerous situation and turned it into this horrible incident, whether you think the shooting was self-defense or not. What kind of neighbourhood watch person goes around INSTIGATING violence?

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JapanGal Do you suggest vigilante justice? If so I ask that you reconsider what that would entail.

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Come forward for what? The police do not yet have an arrest warrant for him. They would not do anything if he showed up at the front door. He has no need to tell his side of the story to the media or the people of America. Innocent until proven guilty. Even this article incorrectly states that he "shot dead" another person. It is still supposed to be "allegedly" people, however the JT is so liberal they always get this point wrong.

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War,

" Has he been tried and convicted of a crime?"

Nah.

You'll just have to excuse those pesky foreigners posting from first world, evolved societies outside the USA that would certainly have a killer like Zimmerman at the very least on remand for shooting and un-armed teenager.

To put this into perspective, and if I've well considered the ramifications of the Stand Your Ground thinggy...

My neighbour's dog barking winds me up pretty bad. So I'm going to pop around with a concealed, loaded weapon tonight, confront him about his damned dawg, and since I realize this is going nowhere - I'm gonna wind him up until the point that he clobbers me in the jaw, whereupon I unload in his face, and shoot the dog too as a bonus.

Self defence. What exactly is the problem with a law like that?

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"I wasn't that is why I reserve judgement until the facts come out. If his side of the story is correct should he have just let somebody bash his head in? Would you?"

It's funny how people conviniently forget the fact that Zimmermann was stalking this kid, determined he was up to no good.

Hello? Knock knock??

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Even this article incorrectly states that he "shot dead" another person. It is still supposed to be "allegedly" people

How can it be alleged when Zimmerman said himself that he shot Martin and he is dead as a result?

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The American flag is a nice touch, as is the Edmund Burke quote, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is that good men do nothing." Also, one of the two photos in the "album" is graffiti on what looks like a public building, "Long live Zimmerman."

Zimmerman is, you see, an American, a good man trying to protect America from those who are not American due to whatever beliefs or other disqualifying factors they harbor. And people are on the streets supporting him, at least one who clearly possesses spray paint.

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To all those calling for Zimmerman to give himself up to the police, he's already been detained and interrogated at least twice, and on both occassions the prosecutors couldn't find enough evidence to secure a conviction. Does this mean he didn't kill that kid? Not necessarily, it just means they can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. Under U.S. law this makes him innocent, for the moment. Perhaps there will be more evidence unearthed later, but at this time the man is innocent.

Yet somehow there persists this insistance that he's guilty. If two different prosecutors with complete access to all the facts couldn't find enough evidence I don't see how you can.

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warallthetime, I wasn't there so I don't know how much of a bashing was being inflicted. But if Zimmerman's side of the story is correct, should he have carried a firearm while patrolling? If Zimmerman's side of the story is correct, should he have ignored the police dispatcher's advice not to follow the suspicious person?

My opinion about these two facts is that Zimmerman wanted and planned to have a confrontation. He carried his weapon in preparation. He knew, just as is stated in his side of the story, that he would not have stood a chance without it. If he would have followed the dispatcher's advice, his plans would have been spoiled.

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He's no watchman, he's a big, weak @rsebite. I ran into many like him when I lived in the U.S. They play bobby to mask their severe insecurities, bullying anyone who drives or walks through "their neighbourhood."

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A controversial Florida law allows the use of deadly force when a person senses a reasonable fear of death or serious injury,

I wonder what reasonable fear or death... is? I can't wear hooded clothes and not walk around there with it. Otherwise I might be shot by insane persons.

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I accessed his payment website instantly but was horrified to learn that you can't input negative numbers!

This is a travesty of justice, he needs to be in police custody to protect him (why is he in hiding) and to determine the truth.

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I was able to pay attention to this case right up to the moment Sharpton and Jackson entered the mix. I'm done giving a rip until the investigation is concluded, a procedure that is likely being made even more difficult by all the people blocking the police station and media harassing the officers.

Whatever my opinions on the case I can certainly understand why Zimmerman wouldn't want to say anything or go anywhere. He could say anything whether it be a staunch defense of his actions or an statement of regret, the issue has taken on a life of its own at the expense of any meaningful dialog.

As for the donations...on one hand I can understand that his financial position is probably less than fun right now given that there is no possible way he could work or conduct any kind of business. On the other he would have done better by staying silent without exception.

For a split split second I thought MAYBE Zimmerman was asking for the donations in order to give the Martin family some for of compensation and to show remorse, but I should have known better from this scumbag.

That would have turned back to bite him even faster than it has already, and with more bile. I have no doubt one of the lovely individuals mouthing off for the camera would describe it as 'blood money' and accelerate the decay of functional communication.

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Madverts - To put this into perspective, and if I've well considered the ramifications of the Stand Your Ground thinggy...

My neighbour's dog barking winds me up pretty bad. So I'm going to pop around with a concealed, loaded weapon tonight, confront him about his damned dawg, and since I realize this is going nowhere - I'm gonna wind him up until the point that he clobbers me in the jaw, whereupon I unload in his face, and shoot the dog too as a bonus.

Self defence. What exactly is the problem with a law like that?

Just so you understand what you've just done, if anything happens to your neighbor or his dog, prosecutors can use your public post as evidence in court against you. It would be very difficult for you to claim self defense since you described your pre-planned crime on the internet.

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kwatt - I wonder what reasonable fear or death... is? I can't wear hooded clothes and not walk around there with it. Otherwise I might be shot by insane persons.

If you are being attacked and you believe your life or the life of someone else is in danger, you can defend yourself or them including the use of deadly force.

You can't attack someone for simply looking at you, especially in one of the 49 States that allows it's citizens to carry weapons for self defense, including firearms. That might be a really bad idea. It's also why the violent crime rate has decreased in the States where the voters demanded that they be allowed concealed carry.

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Great arrestpaul,

Only three problems with your theory.

I live in the middle of nowhere - no neighbours and not a hoodie in sight

I don't own a gun

I don't own a gun

Now, I know technically point 2 and point 3 are the same, but it is such a major point, that I wanted to make sure you grasped it.

Clearly my concept of pre-meditated murder using the Stand Your Ground law as a Get Out of Jail Free card whooshed over your head like a hail of badly aimed bullets.

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ONLY IN AMERICA -

Sanford, Florida weather: raining Dark at night 7pm

1) Crazy man with gun

2) Stalked a teenager

3) Called police, police told him specifically don't follow the teenager

4) teenager spots man approaching him at night in the dark

5) strange man approaches teenager

5) teenager is frightened because he doesn't know who is following him ( IN THE DARK )

6) The two met

7) ?

8) " Help Help Help " is heard on the 911 call

9) a few seconds later a shot is heard on the 911 tape

10) Young teenager is dead ( carrying a bag of skittles and Arizona Ice Tea )

If this situation happened to your child ( un armed carrying candy and juice ) Do you think a fat man should go to jail ?

Now, this idiot is asking for donations. He's the one carrying a gun. He's the one who stepped out of the car and STALKED an UNARMED TEENAGER.

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arrested development,

I like how your story has gone from George Zimmerman chased down Trayvon and they got into a fight to now it's Trayvon who chased George and started it.

Don't tell me, Trayvon was packing too, wasn't he? He HAD to have been carrying a gun, right? Or was it a bazooka?

Next week Trayvon will have been attempting to run George over with a Sherman Tank when George was able to sqeeze off a round that magically ricochetted around the tank, killing Trayvon. What happened to the tank is anyone's guess. But it was likely stolen from some "Trayvon-looking" types.

Your story is amazing. It's not true. It's patently false, but it's amazing.

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In breaking news, Zimmerman's defense team has suspended their dealings with him. Zimmerman has refused to return their emails and phone calls, preferring instead to talk with Sean Hannity.

As for exhibiting extremely questionable judgment, Zimmerman is proceeding true to form.

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he got no worries by handing himself over.

He hasn't been charged with anything.

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arrested development,

I've been thinking about this and your story is bogus. The 911 tapes indicate Zimmerman saying that Trayvon was getting away, as in escaping.

Then you say, he attacked Zimmerman, as in pursuing.

Explain to me how one attacks and is pursued at the same time?

Also, who is more believable: the 911 audio or George Zimmerman's brother?

Who to believe, you or my lying eyes.

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Ms. Alexander why should he feel lucky he is not in prison? Has he been tried and convicted of a crime? Or is he guilty in your mind because of media bias? Were you there? I wasn't that is why I reserve judgement until the facts come out. If his side of the story is correct should he have just let somebody bash his head in? Would you?

Just because you are a member of the neighborhood watch doesn't give you the right to patrol with a loaded gun and then pursue someone you think is suspicious, especially after the 911 dispatcher tells you to stop what you are doing. It doesn't give you a right to shoot this suspicious person.

I wasn't there and my opinion is based on what I have read and seen on TV.

Regardless of what really happened, he shot someone dead. The police should have done their part in doing their tests to ensure he wan't drunk or high but they didn't. They just took his word for it. How fair is that? This opens grounds for other psycho neighborhood watch folks to go out and shoot someone because they are suspicious.

@ JapanGal, I don't think it's fair to say that those who don't trust the US court system should move to North Korea or Cuba. How many inmates, especially in Texas, have been exonerated because the jury wrongly found people guilty of crimes they didn't commit?

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Madverts - Only three problems with your theory.

That was YOUR theory and concept of pre-meditated murder, not mine. I only pointed out that since you posted your theory on a public forum, the internet, the police can use your post as evidence that you intended to murder your neighbor. That is not self defense or SYG.

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The Truth Matters - arrested development,

I like how your story has gone from George Zimmerman chased down Trayvon and they got into a fight to now it's Trayvon who chased George and started it.

Personal attacks only indicate that you have run out of reasonable argument. Martin had a 2 minute headstart from the time Zimmerman told 9-1-1 that Martin was running and the end of the 9-1-1 call. Where did Martin run to during those 2 minutes? He obviously didn't run home which was maybe 100 yards away. How long does it take a teenage football player to run some 100 yards?

Zimmerman is being hunted by the lynch mobs including AG Eric Holder's favorite Poll Watchers, the New Black Panther party. They're offered $10,000 for the murder or kidnapping of Zimmerman. Is that what passes for justice in the eyes of the lynch mobs?

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The Truth Matters - arrested development,

I've been thinking about this and your story is bogus. The 911 tapes indicate Zimmerman saying that Trayvon was getting away, as in escaping.

Then you say, he attacked Zimmerman, as in pursuing.

Explain to me how one attacks and is pursued at the same time?

Another personal attack?

Zimmerman says on the 9-1-1 tape that Martin is running. No one knows where Martin was running to. 2 minutes passed before the 9-1-1 call ended. Martin and Zimmerman met again as Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle, according to Zimmerman. Martin's GF may have added some information to what occured between the time Martin ran disappearing from Zimmerman's view and when Martin approached Zimmerman from behind.

That is what the prosecutor's office is trying to decide. Martin obviously didn't go home. Did Martin approach Zimmerman from behind? Is there any evidence that Martin did not approach Zimmerman from behind? Is there any evidence that Martin didn't knock Zimmerman down? Zimmerman sustained injuries from a struggle with Martin. Eyewitnesses saw Zimmerman on the ground crying for help from his neighbors. Was there a struggle for the weapon? Did Zimmerman believe that his life was in danger from Martin?

Does the prosecutor's office have any evidence that they can present in court that Zimmerman was not defending his own life? I don't believe the prosecutor's office can substitute your opinion for facts.

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This is just a big mess, and both the racists on the white side and black side are not going to solve this with more hate and racism, time to sit down and TALK, heart to heart conversations, this is what true human beings can do if we try to elevate ourselves from common animals.

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"That was YOUR theory and concept of pre-meditated murder, not mine."

Yeah, and you still haven't grasped the simple premise as using this law as an excuse to murder and not be arrested for it. Mr Neighbourhood Watch was walking around with a loaded gun. He called 9/11 nearly once a week, every week, over a thirteen month period. He has all the hallmarks of a paranoid nut., and should be in custody for the very minimum of actively creating a situation where an un-armed 17 year old lost his life.

And guess what - there's good news for you at last. Not only can you donate to the shooters's defence fund, but Zimmerman's legal team have thrown in the towel in a strange turn of events. Now's the time for you to make a difference for the poor, lis-understood maligned shooter arrestpaul!

Let's face it, your defence of him here isn't going anywhere.

Best of luck.

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Madverts,

He called 9/11 nearly once a week, every week, over a thirteen month period. He has all the hallmarks of a paranoid nut.,

The non-biased ( yeah right) New York Times reported this garbarge as fact on March 17th no doubt on the front page. They posted the correction on April 6th I'd guess on page 87 right behind the supermarket discount coupons. Your getting your impressions and opinion handed to you by the biased media. 46 calls to 911 over 8 years Madverts, and that was an easily verifiable fact on March 17th. As the correction said they "misstated" the time period.

An article on March 17 about appeals for a Department of Justice investigation into the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman misstated the time period in which Mr. Zimmerman made 46 calls to 911. The calls were made over the course of about eight years, not over 14 months. The error was repeated in a front-page article on March 21 about Florida’s self-defense law known as Stand Your Ground.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/pageoneplus/corrections-april-6.html

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One more thing......THE ERROR WAS REPEATED on MARCH 21st.....on the Front Page.

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Who really cares about how many calls he made over what period of times.

Real fact is that a person died most likely unneeded, that should be the focus of the investigation and discussion.

Why is he hiding after the fact, etc? Media will twist and milk it for all they can that is what they do.

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Sail,

I got the info from arrestpaul in defence of Zimmerman!

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arrested development,

You are absolutely right. I HAVE run out of arguments with you. When you refuse to see one entire side of the story, choosing only to take Zimmerman's word as truth, I can't compete with that.

Willful ignorance is a hell of a thing to overcome. I throw in the towel. You win. Trayvon Martin is not the victim here. He is the perp. He obviously grabbed the gun, shot himself to death, JUST to make Zimmerman look bad. That little Trayvon is a real S.O.B., isn't he?

And now look at it, Zimmerman can't go anywhere or get a job. His whole life is ruined because of this. That little f***g cn got off easy, didn't he?

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sailwind,

I'm really disappointed in you. You've had your finger on the pulse of what's important on this case but have failed to let us know whether or not Trayvon Martin drove a Chevy Volt. Your knowledge of the wind speed and relative humidity and how it affected this case really brings a lot to the table.

No, really. I'm not being sarcastin in the slightest. Relative humidity is important stuff. I don't think you were obfuscating the situation in the slightest.

SO, if you could, get back to us on that Chevy Volt thing. Because if he drove a Volt, well....you know. Yeah. You know.

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You've had your finger on the pulse of what's important on this case but have failed to let us know whether or not Trayvon Martin drove a Chevy Volt.

You truly dishonor the Martin's family loss of their loved one with this "humor".

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The Truth Matters - arrested development,

You are absolutely right.

Thank you.

In spite of your making another personal attack, let me explain how this investigation is being conducted. First, there is a possible crime requiring police involvment. Police collect statements from witnesses and physical evidence. The State Attourney's office decides if there is enough evidence to charge anyone with violating the laws of Florida. That's the stage the Martin/Zimmerman is at now. The "laws of Florida" are very important to the outcome of this case.

The prosecutor is looking at Zimmerman's story which is backed up by eyewitnesses. If Zimmerman's story is true/factual, Florida law allows for self defense and SYG use of lethal force. In order to charge Zimmerman, the prosecutors office needs to disprove Zimmerman's version of what happened that night. In order to convict Zimmerman of violating Florida laws, the prosecutor needs to convince a jury or judge that something else happened or that Zimmerman and the eyewitnesses are lying or at least mistaken.

The lynch mobs don't need facts or the truth or proof or evidence. The lynch mobs only need to claim that Zimmerman must be convicted. Doesn't matter if any laws were broken. Doesn't matter what the witnesses say. Doesn't matter what the physical evidence suggests or proves. The lynch mob media even alters evidence to prove to the lynch mob anything the lynch mob wants to hear.

NBC alters the 9-1-1 recording. NBC owns 82% of MSNBC. MSNBC show host Sharpton is leading the street lynch mob. Sharpton is quoting his networks deliberately and falsely edited recording to claim that Zimmerman is racist.

Because of actions like these from the lynch mobs, Zimmerman is receiving death threats. People who don't even know George Zimmerman are receiving death threats because their name is Zimmerman. The lynch mobs goal is to undermine the laws, law enforcement, the court system, and the lynch mob leaders are trying to line their own pockets with as much money as they can grab before the truth comes out about what happened that night.

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Agree, but why he doesn't come forward and have his side of the story(we can't hear the other anymore) corroborated by CSI-methods, etc. Would speed up things a lot.

The way the American Justice system works, is that, "Anything you say, can and will be used against you." They are not kidding. If he goes on the media, and gives a statement, that statement will be used against him. My father is an attorney, and I have friends who likewise practice law. One thing, every single one of them has said, is that you should never, under any circumstances, talk to the police outside the prescence of a lawyer, this includes giving a statement to the media that is recorded. What you say, can be used against you, to trip you up, to prosecute you. Look at what they did to Martha Stewart, and Scooter Libby. Convicted of lying to investigators.

Why is he hiding after the fact, etc? Media will twist and milk it for all they can that is what they do.

You mean apart from the death threats? The Black Panthers lynch mob? Apart from that? I don't know, maybe he got sick of being hounded by the media 24/7. As for me, if TBP were threatening to kill me, offering bounties for my head, I suspect I'd go into hiding as well.

What really bothers me about this case, is not that Zimmerman shot and killed Martin. But rather the reaction to this. The media pushing the lie that he is 'white' so they could use the white vs black meme. The Media going so far as to edit and distort the tapes to give this same impression, so they could cast him as being a racist. I don't know if the guy is guilty or not. If he is, he deserves to be in jail. If he isn't though, if this was truly self defense, then its a senseless tragedy. But I ask you, where is the same level of outrage over the murder of a child in Detroit? Is it somehow ok, because that was black on black crime? Why are these venomous and disgusting race-baiters and race haters still allowed to go on the air and spew their bile. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton among others. No, this is what the story has become, Zimmerman is now just a sideshow.

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"Because of actions like these from the lynch mobs"

Yor defence of the shooter has been un-relentless, which means you're simply the other extreme in the argument.

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"What really bothers me about this case, is not that Zimmerman shot and killed Martin"

Say it like it is molenir.....

Jesus you people are Neanderthals.

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Madverts - Yor defence of the shooter has been un-relentless, which means you're simply the other extreme in the argument.

Asking for or expecting proof or evidence is not usually considered extreme. The lynch mobs have been demanding a conviction based on what has turned out to be lies, inuendo, and falsified video and audio created by CNN and NBC/MSNBC. The lynch mobs have been attacking anyone who speaks out in favor of Zimmerman or suggests that Martin isn't the 13 year old angel the lynch mobs originally presented him as.

Do you consider the special prosecutor to be un-relentless also or do you think she is doing the best job she can to find out what the facts are?

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The Black Panthers lynch mob?

WWDDD? (What would David Duke do?)

What is the number of members of the current Black Panther organization? Does a relatively tiny handful of members -- who aren't accepted by the vast majority of the African-American community -- constitute a "mob"? I understand that, to David Duke or any white supremacist seeking to use such a fringe element to try to prove a point, they just might. At some point, reasonable, rational people have to distinguish between an actual, serious threat, and the irrational fears of certain white people looking to inflate the danger of a handful of black men who telegraph their intentions with press conferences.

What really bothers me about this case, is not that Zimmerman shot and killed Martin.

It wouldn't bother David Duke in the slightest either.

The Media going so far as to edit and distort the tapes

It wasn't "the media," although that's exactly the way Duke would distort that issue. It was one very stupid producer at NBC who was fired. It was stupid because the 911 recordings were widely available and the edit could be spotted in a heartbeat. The people wanting to conflate a stupid act by one producer into something more than it actually was are like David Duke's spiritual followers.

But I ask you, where is the same level of outrage over the murder of a child in Detroit?

Again, another Duke attempt to raise false moral equivalencies. The actual outrage was directed at the Sanford Police Department, which made every appearance of 100% accepting the story of the shooter of young, unarmed Trayvon Martin without conducting a proper investigation. Unless you can provide the forum of one example of how the Detroit police have tried to sweep a similar murder of an unarmed and innocent kid under the rug, your comment is baseless. I will wait on your example.

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"What really bothers me about this case, is not that Zimmerman shot and killed Martin"

WELL YOU DON'T SAY! FINALLY, the truth comes out!

Blessed Jesus thank you for being honest, molenir.

Allow me to paraphrase another Zimmerman, this one happens to be the absolute polar opposite of George Zimmerman:

All of Trayvon's cards were marked in advance The trial was a pig-circus he never had a chance The judge made Trayvon's witnesses drunkards from the slums To the white folks who watched he was a revolutionary bum And to the black folks he was just another dead n*****r No one doubted that George pulled the trigger And though they could not produce the gun The DA said he was the one who did the deed And the all-white jury DISAGREED.

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The lynch mobs have been demanding a conviction

Completely untrue.

The lynch mobs have been attacking anyone who speaks out in favor of Zimmerman

Completely untrue.

Martin isn't the 13 year old angel the lynch mobs originally presented him as

Martin was never presented as 13 years old. What troubles he had were typical of a vast majority of kids his age, and nothing, but nothing, ever suggested violent behavior. The same can't be said of his killer. It is completely untrue that he was presented as "an angel," although he may be with them now. What was more untrue was the attempt to present Martin as an overpowering "football player" -- when the fact is that he was not physical enough to make his high school team.

Do you consider the special prosecutor to be un-relentless also or do you think she is doing the best job she can to find out what the facts are?

I will wager that if she finds "facts" that are not to your liking that you will consider her part of the "lynch mob."

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You truly dishonor the Martin's family loss of their loved one with this "humor".

NO, you dishonor the Martin family by refusing to look at one side of the story because Martin happens to be black. Sorry, but you've shown that color blindness is not an affliction you are saddled with.

When you can open your eyes and your heart to see both sides of the story, THEN you can take the moral high ground. NOT A MOMENT BEFORE.

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The Washington Post is reporting that the DA is going to charge George Zimmerman with a crime and arrest him.

You read it here first. The DA is going to have his reputation run the the mud by the pro-Zimmerman zealots. They are convinced that Trayvon grabbed the gun and shot himself to death, JUST to make George Zimmerman look bad. THAT is the degree of their delusion.

They don't see the dead kid as a victim at all. They see the dead kid as the perpitrator. How do people like that survive in the real world? Do they have service dogs or something? Trained monkeys? Are THEY trained monkeys?

Again, the DA in the Zimmerman case is going to go down as being the most villainous DA in all of America. You can take that to the bank. That is more certain than a pill-popped misogynistic rant from Rush Limbaugh.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_story.html

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NO, you dishonor the Martin family by refusing to look at one side of the story because Martin happens to be black.

Yes, although I would like to offer the following two modifications:

1) "Happens to be black" is not the reason, but that does not remove all racial overtones. Someone who claims that Zimmerman can't possibly be racist -- as Sean Hannity does -- because George tutored African-American kids is actually revealing and admitting that race does play a part in this, at least in their minds. It is evident from the 911 recordings that Zimmerman believed there was a certain kind of young black male who should be considered a suspect in crimes without any evidence whatsoever.

2) Nothing dishonors the Martin family more than buying Zimmerman's story more than 50%. For example, completely discounting the possibility that Zimmerman did make a racial slur when he went on the hunt. (Because admitting that he may have would remove all the illusion that Trayvon's race didn't play a major factor in Zimmerman's calling 911 on him. (There's no doubt in my mind: Trayvon "looked black" to Zimmerman long before the shooter confirmed that he was.)

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Charges are to be brought against Zimmermann according to the BBC.

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Charges are to be brought against Zimmermann according to the BBC.

Yes, scheduled for 18:00 Eastern Daylight (local) time (=22:00 UTC)

The open question now is how long it will take for George Zimmerman to turn himself in after being charged.

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Readers, please stop bickering.

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yabits - WWDDD? (What would David Duke do?)

What is the number of members of the current Black Panther organization? Does a relatively tiny handful of members -- who aren't accepted by the vast majority of the African-American community -- constitute a "mob"?

Yes, the NBPP is a lynch mob. They have been passing out fliers for the murder and kidnapping of Zimmerman.

Is David Duke a personal friend of yours? How does his opinion change anything in the Martin/Zimmerman case?

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yabits - The lynch mobs have been demanding a conviction

Completely untrue.

The lynch mobs have been attacking anyone who speaks out in favor of Zimmerman

Completely untrue.

Martin isn't the 13 year old angel the lynch mobs originally presented him as

Martin was never presented as 13 years old.

Hahahaha. The lynch mobs are still demanding a conviction. The lynch mobs are still making personal attacks against anyone who even suggests that Zimmerman may have been defending himself. The lynch mob media repeatedly used Matin's photo as a 13 year old and is still using those photos.

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The lynch mobs are still making personal attacks against anyone who even suggests that Zimmerman may have been defending himself.

The very term "lynch mob" is a personal attack and an affront to the vast majority of people who have been seeking no more than justice to be done in this case.

You reveal what is really in your own mind and heart by continuing to tar everyone seeking justice for an innocent kid with that brush. It is telling that no one who appears to be defending Zimmerman here has called you out on that.

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yabits - The very term "lynch mob" is a personal attack and an affront to the vast majority of people who have been seeking no more than justice to be done in this case.

The term "lynch mob" describes those who will do and say anything to convince others that this case is settled. This case is not settled. The term "lynch mob" also describes those who twist this story, create strawmen, and falsely edit recordings to "prove" their pre-determined conclusion.

The court disagrees with the lynch mob types. Many in the lynch mobs have actually violated Florida laws and I hope they will be charged and convicted. Evidence will be examined and witnesses will be heard and cross examined.

Zimmerman may be found guilty or exonerated BUT IT WILL HAPPEN IN A COURT ROOM and not on the internet.

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