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stormcrow
It would be interesting to see a racial breakdown of these statistics to see who the shooters were, but that might be politically incorrect.
". . . some of the shootings involved people he contends should not have been on the streets."
Build more prisons?
PTownsend
'Chicago', another far-right dog-whistle.
As long as the guns and ammo industries remain so profitable and powerful expect gun violence to continue unchecked. And even worsen in all communities regardless income levels.
Sevenseas
A city in America with strict gun control is like a no peeing section in a swimming pool.
Stop!Hammertime.
P. Smith
That's true. The commonly quoted figure for Chicago's crime guns sourced from outside Chicago is 60%. But, while unregistered firearms are often used in shootings, and getting illegal weapons off the streets is important, the ability of police to reduce the flow is no guarantee of reducing the violence in any meaningful way. A person who really wants to get a gun is going to get one. That said, just because it won't immediately reduce or stop gun violence, doesn't mean it shouldn't be pursued. I'm sure it would have an effect over time. After all, if your first round of chemotherapy doesn't cure your cancer, you don't just throw your hands up and say, "Well, we tried."
I think the violence is more to do with high levels of poverty, and lack of economic opportunity for people who have been disenfranchised by the criminal justice system. Different approaches - non police approaches - should be considered, because a police department's job isn't to solve structural disadvantages many communities with high gun violence face. They don’t run schools or create many jobs, and they are not responsible for making sure that people have other options they need to hopefully steer them away from crime and violence. Organisations such as Chicago's Violence Interruptors and READI use community based approaches such as outreach, training and cognitive behavioural therapy for men at high risk of becoming victims or perpetrators of gun violence.
https://time.com/5757773/inner-city-gun-violence/
https://www.heartlandalliance.org/readi/
bass4funk
It’s Chicago, why is everyone shocked? Sad, but nothing new.
That’s not the problem of Chicago, the problem is the leadership of that city and you can ask any police officer and they will tell you that the leaders of that city have not done anything in over 60 years to curtail the violence that continues to further erode a once great city
Stop!Hammertime.
bass4funk,
So you often say, but as the Wall Street Journal notes:
This, as thefts have dropped by 26% and sexual assaults by 19% in Chicago. In fact, robbery, theft and motor vehicle theft remain at 20-year lows.
bass4funk
Yes, so why aren’t the Democrat leaders doing anything about it?
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/chicago-75-murdered-are-black-71-murderers-are-black/
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-crime-shootings-weekend-violence-murders/6346844/
Sad, but they never cared and yet, people still put these same crazy people in office.
Stop!Hammertime.
bass,
I'm not disputing the problem. I am saying that a) it can't be blamed purely on democratic leadership (or lack thereof) because it appears to be widespread over American cities, and b) other crime rates have dropped, so it can't be blamed on poor law enforcement.
bass4funk
Yes and it’s mostly in predominantly minority communities
Not quite sadly.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/14/violence-hurts-the-communities-protesters-want-to-protect/
bass4funk
100% Spot on!
Stop!Hammertime.
bass,
Your link is behind a paywall. And seems to be about looting and vandalism in Minnesota. Which I oppose, by the way. And doesn't address the point you wish to counter, which is that sexual assault, theft, and motor vehicle theft are at 20-year lows in Chicago.
bass4funk
No, it’s about the historic truth of that city
Sorry, that has nothing to do with the black on black crime and skyrocketing crime in Chicago in the record number of police are leaving the city, please don’t deflect.
Stop!Hammertime.
bass,
Your link to an article about current crime spikes in Minnesota does not counter my point about decades long falling non-violent crime trends in Chicago.
We're just last-wording it now, so go ahead. And thanks for the discussion.
bass4funk
actually it does, because I have never heard a single Democrat or any of the liberals talk about how they are going to handle the escalating crime rate in that city.