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© 2022 AFPWestern arms production to ramp up as Ukraine burns through stockpiles
By Sylvie LANTEAUME WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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rainyday
This problem especially affects Russia which in the past week has been exceptionally generous in its donations of hardware to the Ukrainian military.
Kaerimashita
Well Well Well. Who would have thought that this war would benefit arms manufacturers?
Bet they can't wait for the inevitable Ukrainian victory.
Peter14
Nation have gone so long without actual full on continuous battles lasting months or years that they forget how many munitions can actually be used in high intensity conflicts that carry on for months or years. Not since Korea or Vietnam have such volumes been used and back then the factories from WWII were still able to produce massive amounts of armaments and munitions. The Cold war greatly reduced the manufacturing levels for "peace time" and the end of the Cold war reduced holdings even further.
This is a timely reminder that capacity for replacing stockpiles must be available at short notice. Factories should be set up for huge output in numbers but operate on as needed basis. Running out of ammunition before your enemy does is critical and fatal.
A three year time frame to increase production is a peacetime time frame. In war you need it yesterday. This is a wake up call for the US, Europe and the allies. Production capacity needs to be triple what you have now or more. You dont need to use it all but it must be there when you need it, not three years away.
Peter14
Both sides will be rubbing hands at profits. Russian, Chinese, Iranian and North Korean of the Russian side. Loving those profits Putin is securing for them. The EU and US and other allies are also manufacturing and refurbishing but normally at their own cost. Much is donated to Ukraine so each nations is paying for its own donations of equipment and ammo.
Then they replace stocks as fast as they can.
I bet manufacturing on both sides of the war would prefer it continue. But the people want the war over now.
Michael Machida
American craftsmanship is amazing. Hide Russia. Hide.
Eastman
war is dirty business.this is war provoked and fully supported by USA so yes-its great business for USA.as usual.who minds lives lost,damages done on economy etc.profit in name of US interests is GOD.
Nemo
It hasn't been a very good exposition for Russian arms, has it?
Tanks that cook their crews, Smart missiles that aren't, ships that have troubles with little things like "buoyancy".
On the other hand, makers of U.S. and NATO country weaponry might fill their order books for a decade even after adding capacity.
Poor Vlad. It only he hadn't gone to war he could have kept pulling the wool over his customers' eyes that his cheap junk wasn't really cheap junk and he could have kept up the claim about it being "years or decades ahead" (in terms of obsolescence. )
M3M3M3
The arms industry in Russia is entirely state-owned. There are no private profits.
rainyday
”State owned” in Russia means “controlled by Putin and his favorites”. These people extract huge private wealth from these entities.
Raw Beer
Considering only about 30% of the weapons sent by the west actually make it to the front lines, I wonder where those weapons are being diverted, and who is pocketing the profits, as tax payers are getting fleeced.
Nemo
Did mini-me's minions tell you that? They are the same ones who claim that they have destroyed more Rocket systems than the US has actually delivered. So, bucket of salt with that one.
rainyday
True, the other 70% are flying right over the front lines and impacting targets in the Russian rear.
Nemo
Plenty of good deals on surplus Russian weapons at the moment!
Never been fired (or cleaned) and only been dropped/run over once!
Peter14
It was provoked by Putin alone and began with his invasion in 2014 and arming and directing separatists in Easter Ukraine. The US had absolutely nothing to do with that. Unless looking on and doing nothing makes them guilty in some way.
It was meant to be a new golden age for Russian manufacturing, making new weapons systems by the thousands and ammunition by the millions of rounds. It was not foreseen that the sanctions against Russia would be so wide spread. putting a dampener on Putin's personal profit earning by limiting Russian ability to make anything.
Putin has gifted Europe and America the opportunity to equip Ukraine with Western weapons to replace the old outdated Soviet equipment Russia used to sell. Thanks to Putin, Ukraine is now a much more potent and deadly defense force than it was before Putin's war of aggression against the people of Ukraine.
This is not a matter for or of the US, it is a matter of Russia continuing its unlawful, unprovoked invasion of its peaceful neighbor through manipulation of internal forces in Ukraine and direct invasion destroying towns, cities and people for the glory of Vladimir Putin.
Peter14
Both sides will be rubbing hands at profits.
There are big profits and they go to Putin and a few lucky cronies.
Seth M
NATO can't supply Ukraine without hurring their own stockpiles.
It's not ww2 anymore, every himars round has chips on it and we are already in a global chip crunch
ClippetyClop
How would you know?
Ah I see. You don't know.
You seem to be adept at choosing the wrong side of whatever it is you put your mind to.
Nemo
True, true, and true, AND YET false.
True, it is not WWII anymore.
True, Every HMARS round has a chip (That is why you only need one to destroy a target pretty damn reliably).
True, there is a global chip shortage.
And yet, false. These Chips are not the same ones in your household electronics (Who do you think they are? Russians?). They are more durable and less prone to tampering. Nor are they acquired through the same off the shelf methods.
Yes, there are resource limits on how fast stocks can be replenished, but commercial chip shortages are not one of those limitations.
stormcrow
The game is riding on the one yard line with inches to go, time to nip it in the bud.
Bob Fosse
Wow.
Nemo
Some Tag lines for marketers of Russian weapons (It helps if you read it with a heavy Russian accent going through your head.)
"The T-Series Tank - Made with same craftsmanship and attention to detail as Lada Automobile (Extra engines and fire extinguishers sold separately.)"
"Using same chips and circuitry as Russian washing machines, Russian "Smart" missiles are predicted to hit designated target roughly 40% of time and will hit SOMETHING 100% of time."
"Russian weapons - Prices you can afford and quality control issues you won't notice (until it is too late)."
fallaffel
Do you think Russia is dumb enough to have been provoked into a war?
Mr. Putin wanted this war, and has wanted it for years.
FizzBit
Logic failure
Putin would only be “dumb” if he allowed the aggressive expansion of NATO and the US at his border.
rainyday
Logic failure.
Dumb Putin has caused the expansion of NATO at his border.
ClippetyClop
Geography Failure!
And since NATO has expanded at his border, how dumb does that make Putin?
But that’s irrelevant since his invasion has nothing to do with NATO or Nazis and you well know it.
Its good to see that Republicans are still supporting him after a tough week
rainyday
Its kind of hard to choose what part of this comparison makes the least sense, but I’ll go with the fact that in the Ardennes offensive the Germans didn’t make it all the way to the American border.
Also the Americans retreat was nowhere near as bogged down with the logistical problems associated with dragging everybody’s looted washing machines along with them.
The list goes on from there.
rainyday
You can post the same inane gibberish as many times as you want, it doesn’t change the fact that it is inane gibberish.
tooheysnew
false !
Russian propaganda.
US Congress put in oversight provisions in the appropriations bill to fund the weapons systems.
Of course, a small % of the smaller weapons do end up on the black market (that happens in every conflict).
However, almost all the big stuff is getting to where it’s needed.
Sven Asai
Not to disturb any propaganda efforts, but with support from 50 countries and after half a year Selensky still not standing in the Kremlin, demanding from Putler the signing of Russia’s unconditional capitulation, is surely a very questionable situation and an obviously unsuccessful strategy too.