White House defends Trump's response to Virginia violence

From Fox and Friends:

Hegseth said, arguing that many young white men “feel like, ‘Hey, I’m treated differently in this country than I feel like I should have. I’ve become a second-class citizen. None of it ― they tell me I have white privilege.’”

It mirrors the words of the white supremacist leader and at least one poster here. There are some white people who feel the US is racist against them and minorities and political correctness are holding them back from success.

While I don't think DT is a white supremacist, he needs their votes.

Therefore, playing the ambiguity.

While I don't think DT is a white supremacist, he needs their votes.

Agreed. And if anyone thinks Trump was right to call out the hate and bigotry on 'many sides,' just look at how the alt-right/WS are taking it. He's playing right into their hands

Trump has an issue with minorities. His company has been fined for discrimination. Just about every comment he makes about Hispanics, blacks, and Muslims is negative. He openly said a "Mexican" judge shouldn't be allowed to judge a white person. He's retweeted from white supremacists. And there's a Steve O'Bannon.

One full day without a tweet? The silence is deafening.  Trump was harder on Meryl Streep than he is on White Supremacists carrying Nazi Flags and a terrorist.

It's weird how the crowd that likes to yell "YOU LOST, GET OVER IT" has a rather fetishistic attachment to Confederate Flags and Nazi Swastikas

The President condemned the violence.

Articles like this only inflame the hatred and division in American society.

Somehow, I don't think the MSM cares about whether they inflame more tensions or not.

It mirrors the words of the white supremacist leader and at least one poster here. There are some white people who feel the US is racist against them and minorities and political correctness are holding them back from success.

There are a lot of angry White people in America and not all of them are racists, but this is what liberals really don't understand. The last administration swept aside and ignored the needs and frustrations of millions of whites, this is anger has been growing for a long time and was about to come to this crashing conclusion. This has nothing to do that Whites think they are better than everyone else, but when you marginalize a group of people for a very long time regardless of race, it will come back to haunt you and it did. This has nothing to do with the Nazis, other than they are hitching a ride on the anger of average White people and try to interject their racists views which I found disgusting, but both sides need to cool their jets and the left need to listen to the concerns of these people have a town hall meeting and listen to their grievances and not just the minorities side.

Agreed. And if anyone thinks Trump was right to call out the hate and bigotry on 'many sides,' just look at how the alt-right/WS are taking it. He's playing right into their hands.

Playing in their hands? You guys! LOL Trump is not the problem, David Duke IS the problem in all of this and once again, if anyone knows Duke, he's like a White opportunist shark like Al Sharpton and would never miss a chance at notoriety. He's got a chance to make himself relevant again and hedefinitely won't miss this big opportunity.

Somehow, I don't think the MSM cares about whether they inflame more tensions or not.

How about the American Freedom Fighters? Do you think they care?

Playing in their hands? You guys! LOL Trump is not the problem, David Duke

Not just David Duke. And don't just take my word for it. Read what they wrote!

Muslims deliberately attack and kill large groups of people with vans and trucks= not all Muslims are bad, just the ones who did it. Motive is unknown and will never be officially determined.

One white person who is a registered a republican runs over some people blocking a road who attacked his car= Trump himself and all his supporters are confirmed racist, David Duke becomes relevant somehow and the guy driving the car is a white supremacist who intentionally did it.

How about the American Freedom Fighters? Do you think they care?

Not sure, never met anyone there.

Not just David Duke. And don't just take my word for it. Read what they wrote!

Duke and the MSM that are feeding the machine are at fault.

Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, issued a tweet early Sunday that included the sort of language some people said her father should have used on Saturday.

"There should be no place in society for racism, white supremacy and neo-Nazis," she tweeted.

He should learn from his daughter.

Black label: all Muslims are not Islamists. Not all DT supporters are white supremacists.

Here the problem is to reject or not white supremacists which is part of DT's base.

NY Times reporter on scene, Twitter 8:34pm:

The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding "antifa" beating white nationalists being led out of the park 2/2

NY Times reporter 4:20 am after getting attacked on Twitter by liberals:

Rethinking this. Should have said violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate.

Yeah, sure violence without actual hate is soooooo much better. I really appreciate it to know that a large group of people beating me with clubs dont hate me. Doesnt hurt at all to get hit in the head over and over with a piece of wood after knowing that fun fact!

As I said before, Trump can't comprehend these kinds of societal situations.   It's below his lavish privileged lifestyle of the rich and infamous.

You know what is a telltale sign of a loony? Small facial features. Look at the photo of that piece of trash.

As I said before, Trump can't comprehend these kinds of societal situations.   It's below his lavish privileged lifestyle of the rich and infamous.

If you go by that, then Hollywood and the geeks of silicon valley are really out of touch as privileged as they are.

I think you saw the president... rise to a presidential level....

Unfortunate choice of words. It implies that the President is usually somehow below the level appropriate to his job.

Must be some mistake....

Burning Bush:

Articles like this only inflame the hatred and division in American society.

Presidents like this only inflame the hatred and division in American society.

The President condemned the violence.

Only by pretending it was matched by something similar on the same side: "On many sides".

The man is a disgrace.

 runs over some people blocking a road who attacked his car

Grotesque misrepresentation. Are you unaware of what happened?

white supremacists are never labelled terrorists in USA.

Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, issued a tweet early Sunday that included the sort of language some people said her father should have used on Saturday.

"There should be no place in society for racism, white supremacy and neo-Nazis," she tweeted.

her husband is a right wing jewish, she has converted to judaism. i wonder what the Palestinians think of her tweet?

appearances can be deceptive, but the perpetrator of this crime really looks the part.   and it is unfair to critiscise DT - this incident absolutely ruined his round of golf.

Grotesque misrepresentation. Are you unaware of what happened?

Saw multiple videos of it. His car was the 3rd car, behind 2 other cars that were moving through a crowd of people carrying bats and heavy sticks blocking the street while chanting 'Whose streets? Our streets!' Those 2 cars were not touched and the occupants not bothered.

For some reason, the 3rd car was attacked, hit by a person who jumped out with a bat. The driver then accelerated into a group of people, slamming into the car in front of him. People started bashing out his side and rear windows with bats and heavy wood, so he then put the car in reverse and fled back down the street in reverse.

Where is the grotesque misrepresentation part again?

There are a lot of angry White people in America and not all of them are racists, but this is what liberals really don't understand.

Trump doesn't distinguish between the angry white people and the racists. He gives neo-nazis a free pass because he doesn't want to anger his mainly white base. Even the Mooch has been critical of Trump's bland comments. Neo-nazis and the KKK have have a purpose of creating a white male ruled society, and they have asserted that purpose with force by killing and terrorizing a whole population of Americans.

On the other hand, he immediately condemns the Black Lives Matters movement, which has been largely peaceful and has a good purpose, to raise awareness of the excessive shooting of black people by police officers.

Yes, there is an element of reverse racism in America, but white males of America are hardly downtrodden or suffering from a systemic lack of opportunity.

One white person who is a registered a republican runs over some people blocking a road who attacked his car= Trump himself and all his supporters are confirmed racist, David Duke becomes relevant somehow and the guy driving the car is a white supremacist who intentionally did it.

There you go defending the indefensible. You should be on Fox and Friends. They defended the neo-nazis and KKK too. The "white person" was an angry racist who deliberately rammed his car into a crowd of people.

The "white" protesters came to that city to cause trouble.

I hope that "white person" gets the death penalty, not for being white but for intentionally killing people.

The fact that Trump himself cannot distinguish between his white angry voters and his white angry and violent neo-nazi and KKK voters makes him an idiot who panders to racists. He shouldn't be the president.

He shouldn't be the president.

Which is what every single issue ultimately seems to come down to as far as the media and the left. Another reason why Trump shouldnt be President. Yet he is, and will continue to be, as votes matter.

Where is the grotesque misrepresentation part again?

Funny how you saw different videos and drew different conclusions from every person who was there. But you would know better, right?

The "white" protesters came to that city to cause trouble.

peaceful trouble for sure. It wasn't the "white" protestors that filled empty soda cans with cement and threw them at the "white" protestors. At least SOME of us can see the wrong on both sides. You, not at all. And that makes you a racist since there is an element of anti-white racism within these groups.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/katie-courics-producers-sprayed-with-urine-while-covering-charlottesville-protests/article/2631358

yeah those white supremacists are known for spraying urine on people. Oh wait, that would be the peaceful counterprotestors who did this. All good counterprotestors have a urine spraying device and urine available for spraying as part of any and all peaceful protests.

"When Trump was asked on Saturday in Bedminster whether he wanted the support of white nationalists, he ignored the question."

of course he did! They are his only remaining solid support group; the white supremacists and other uneducated dropouts. The man clearly defends them! If I'm wrong, where does he explicitly denounce them?

Oh and to be fair, the Neo Nazi movement endorsed McCain and Romney as well, funny how the MSM failed to mention that, I wonder why.....

Probably because they were both intelligent enough to reject their support.

If that's true, Hillary should have won Wisconsin and Michigan hands down without the slightest challenge from Trump.

It all in the marketing of the right wing playing a sad tune lamenting about the poor downtrodden white guy.

At least SOME of us can see the wrong on both sides. 

I actually blame the police for this whole incident. They sat by while the whole thing escalated into a scrum and should have known exactly what would happen. Usually when the racists come to protest, they keep the sides separated because it always devolves into a rumble.

And that makes you a racist since there is an element of anti-white racism within these groups.

An element? It was a very small element being attributed to the whole. Whereas, the nazis and KKK were all there to cause trouble in someone else's neighborhood. These are groups who have adopted violence as an element of their cause.

All good counter protesters have a urine spraying device and urine available for spraying as part of any and all peaceful protests. oh yes and the supremacists respond by running you over in a car, very proportionate response.

Probably because they were both intelligent enough to reject their support.

As did Trump. Maybe not as fast as the darling MSM demanded it, but he rejected it nonetheless.

It all in the marketing of the right wing playing a sad tune lamenting about the poor downtrodden white guy.

I'm glad you are honest in that statement, people that think like that, I can assure more if what happened the other day will occur again and again until the fascist commie left sit down and have a real dialogue, because this won't get better and the neither side has the power the shut the other up, so expect more violence, sadly.

I actually blame the police for this whole incident. 

At least we can both agree on that point.

An element? It was a very small element being attributed to the whole. Whereas, the nazis and KKK were all there to cause trouble in someone else's neighborhood. 

Don't give me that crap! When does the ANTIFA go to ANY protest to have a peaceful and meaningful dialogue??? If so why the masks, sticks and other weapons? They came to fight and to say otherwise is just not willing to deal with reality.

These are groups who have adopted violence as an element of their cause.

Both of them, without a doubt.

https://storify.com/Cedarwooded/evidence-driver-was-innocent

Here is photo evidence of wooden bats, aluminum bats, steel pipes all being carried by the peaceful people. You can also see the back window broken out and the damage from the initial bat strikes to the back of the car with proof of it happening prior to the acceleration into the crowd.

Well Trump is clearly a white nationalist so his behavior here is expected. Dems should stop expecting Trump to help them out or act in a presidential manner in times like this as he is their enemy

and should have known exactly what would happen.

I agree it was the cops/Mayors fault. But I would posit that they knew exactly what would happen, and wanted it to, for some ulterior motive.

It was a very small element being attributed to the whole.

Not from what I've seen. Seems you are just trying to convince yourself of something aside from the facts, videos and pics that shows the opposite.

Whereas, the nazis and KKK were all there to cause trouble in someone else's neighborhood.

Where's your proof of this. As much as I despise neo-nazis and the stupid show they put on, they are usually well behaved in their public marches. Furthermore, if what you say is true, then every single Sanctioned protest is just doing it to cause trouble.

I agree it was the cops/Mayors fault. But I would posit that they knew exactly what would happen, and wanted it to, for some ulterior motive.

Why was the event cancelled in the first place?

Why was the event cancelled in the first place?

Why don't you research this yourself?

Not from what I've seen. Seems you are just trying to convince yourself of something aside from the facts, videos and pics that shows the opposite.

Possibly, I am disgusted with racism and don't want to read in detail about the 1950' and 1960's again.

So, I haven't seen enough coverage of the events to draw a conclusion that the counter-protesters were or were not the aggressors. However, the neo-nazis and KKK instigated this conflict by coming to that town. It is like al queda marching down a New York street. Those guys wouldn't last long either, and I would bet that New Yorker's would be the aggressors. That is why I blame the police first and foremost. They should have stopped an obvious rumble in broad daylight.

Whether the counter-protesters were the aggressors or not was never my point. Black lives matters and this incident has been pushed by the right as some resurgence in the black panthers movement and as justification for racism and racist organizations.

I don't want to give neo-nazis, KKK or Alt-Right any excuse for legitimacy, and Trump's failure now (and over the past year) to specifically condemn hate groups provides them with that legitimacy.

As a result, these groups have been emboldened by Trump, and crimes by those who sympathize with them are up.

“He didn’t attack us,” crowed The Daily Stormer, a white supremacist website, about Mr. Trump’s statement after the two days of racist demonstrations. “Refused to answer a question about White Nationalists supporting him. No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.”

For example, here is a racist website feeding off of Trump's unclear statements, and it has a nice little God bless him at the end.

Just still surprised that a white supremacist rally, including the murder of counter protesters, brings out so much hatred for the left.

What worries me is that these right wing bigots might kill again, and the Trump supporters will get even angrier a the left.

It might be a situation where they feel threatened if anyone else is mentioned as a victim. They most likely feel that their tragedy, their "marginalization", should be a priority for the country, and they aren't going to let a murder derail their message.

Plus a lot of them are conspiracy theory nutballs, which doesn't help.

http://6abc.com/police-man-killed-by-neighbor-after-dispute/2286340/

Speaking of nuts, didnt hear much about a Trump hater killing his GOP committeeman neighbor by shooting him in the head twice right in front of his wife did we? They say it wasnt political at all, yet the guy has anti-Trump signs in his yard.

Antifa had no business attending the free speech event that the alt-right had a permit for. They also had no business showing up with weapons and instigating the situation by attacking people and cars. The Dem leader of the city and the Dem governor had no business allowing Antifa to attack the legal protesters at will and then using violence as an excuse to shut down the event. Access could have been restricted and weapons confiscated like in other cities where similar things were held.

The legal protest into removing the historical monuments should have simply been allowed for the free speech right. They were permit holders who should have been protected by police who should not have allowed any others to be armed in the area or to carry out attacks on peaceful, lawful protesters.

Lets remember how fast he was to tweet out of context criticism of London Mayor Sadiq Khan's statement following a similar style attack on Westminster Bridge.

Silence speaks volumes.

Speaking of nuts, didnt hear much about a Trump hater killing his GOP committeeman neighbor by shooting him in the head twice right in front of his wife did we? They say it wasnt political at all, yet the guy has anti-Trump signs in his yard.

Because this is an article about the tragedy over the weekend in Virginia. Point scoring kind of seems superflous here.

Antifa had no business attending the free speech event that the alt-right had a permit for.

Freedom of speech for nazis but not those who are horrified by them?

They also had no business showing up with weapons and instigating the situation by attacking people and cars

This is the narrative put about by the alt-right. It may stick, it may not. But you see why civil rights didn't totally succeed in the past? The nazis are tooled up and that's fine and dandy but whoa, those race traitors who love black people - how dare they make a stand. Not surprising they might have been carrying when over 50 years of civil rights and America is still trying to justify racism.

I guess, though, the nazis had every right to be packing and chanting anti-semitic, anti-black comments. And they may not have keyed a car but they killed someone.

Those poor nazis. An exemplary American institution to be proud of.

Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, issued a tweet early Sunday that included the sort of language some people said her father should have used on Saturday.

"There should be no place in society for racism, white supremacy and neo-Nazis," she tweeted.

Tell that to your pa, Bannon and Sessions for starters.

Ha; neo nazi site The Daily Stormer has been taken over by Anonymous. Which is fun, considering recent statements from the online anti-semites...

"We are now at war" & "Trump comments were good...no condemnation at all"

"White supremacists" - 2 words, just say it

shocking defense of the indefensible.

Easily defensible, called free speech. You dont get to determine the suitability of someone else's speech.

These Antifa people knew what the gathering was about, as there was an approved permit. If you dont want to see or hear that type of thing, dont go there. You dont get to arm yourselves and go try to beat up the people who you dont agree with so that they have to stop talking.

The left has become like a bunch of people who hate rock music. But rather than just not going to the rock concerts when scheduled, they bring weapons try to shut the concert down and beat up the ticket holding attendees. Then when questioned why they cant just leave the people alone who are there for the concert, they start ranting about their own moral high ground and how all people should only be able to listen to the left's preference of music.

I don't know whether Trump's defenders are here because they cannot bring themselves to admit their man is wrong or because they harbor sympathies with these white supremacists and neo-Nazis. Either way it's a pretty self-pitying way to look at the world. Their arguments boil down to expressions of grievance, disdain for liberal thought (in the broadest sense), false equivalences, whataboutisms, and tribalism.

The left has become like a bunch of people who hate rock music. But rather than just not going to the rock concerts when scheduled, they bring weapons try to shut the concert down and beat up the ticket holding attendees. Then when questioned why they cant just leave the people alone who are there for the concert, they start ranting about their own moral high ground and how all people should only be able to listen to the left's preference of music.

Seriously; you're comparing this with a rock concert?

These Antifa people knew what the gathering was about, as there was an approved permit. If you dont want to see or hear that type of thing, dont go there.

Silence is complicity. The worst you can do is pretend all this isn't happening.

To stand by as the nazis infect America. To sneer at the only people brave enough to condemn and resist the supremacists.

So Nazis are infecting America now? Real, actual Nazis?

What happened to the Russians who were a threat to our democracy? They still around too?

This clearly was not a peaceful counter protest. I wonder why they continue to report it as such and to mention that three deaths are link to it.

So Nazis are infecting America now? Real, actual Nazis?

Yes sir. Real, actual nazis. You might have seen them on the news over the last few years. Becoming emboldened and spreading their vile manifesto

What happened to the Russians who were a threat to our democracy? They still around too?

They sure are. But this is a welcome distraction, as is North Korea, for those who pretend that there was no meddling in the US elections.

ALL hate is bad.

Yeah, if only the allies had loved the nazis, WW2 would have been just peachy.

We obviously didnt elect Trump to fix race relations in America as any kind of priority. But most of us have jobs and dont have time/inclination to go role play and beat each other up with weapons, or pepper spray/throw urine on people we disagree with politically.

People like us are working out our own race relations with our neighbors, friends and coworkers. We are getting along just fine without any government intervention, public disavowals or any courageous counterprotesters beating people up on our behalf.

Becoming emboldened 

Could this possibly be because the media is putting out the false narrative that the President of the United States, some of his Cabinet and most of his team are racists just like them? Those falsehoods wouldnt embolden anyone would they? What would happen if you people here and the media would stop calling Trump (and others in power) racists when they arent?

Could this possibly be because the media is putting out the false narrative that the President of the United States, some of his Cabinet and most of his team are racists just like them? Those falsehoods wouldnt embolden anyone would they? What would happen if you people here and the media would stop calling Trump (and others in power) racists when they arent?

I know it's not what you want to hear but they are racists. Not your actual nazi types but they are common or garden variety who have inspired the current crop of fasicsts.

But sure; blame it on the media (who report the racist comments) and "you people" who aren't going to brush it under the carpet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/thank-trump-for-the-white-nationalist-rampage_us_598f8601e4b063e2ae058033

http://q13fox.com/2017/08/13/pro-trump-group-and-counter-protesters-rally-in-seattle/

The so called peaceful counter protestors in Seattle had axe handles, two by fours and balloons filled with unknown liquid. They also tried to push past police and threw rocks at officers. Luckily the police were allowed to do their jobs, pepper sprayed the offenders and kept everyone safe. This is how Virginia could have been handled.

This focus on Trump allows everyone to avoid the deeper and growing problem of identity politics that seeks to divide Americans by race, ethnicity, gender and even religion. “Diversity” is now the all-purpose justification for these divisions, and the irony is that America is more diverse and tolerant than ever.

A politics fixated on indelible differences will inevitably lead to resentments that extremists will exploit in ugly ways.

Could this possibly be because the media is putting out the false narrative...?

No, we only have to listen to what the president says and how he reacts to issues around race.

He is not critical to whites who commit crimes but is critical to non-whites who commit crimes. He comments on crimes against whites, but not on crimes against non-whites. It even carries with allies.

Love how trumps defenders have to constantly come out and explain how trump was 'very clear" when it is very clear, that trump was anything but clear.

Social media also got your Antifa people too, who are now whining that its unfair. These people actually committed crimes, not just pictured in attendance at a free speech rally like your examples.

http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/07/19/berkeley-middle-school-teacher-yvette-felarca-arrested-charges-inciting-riot/

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/05/26/professor-suspected-in-berkeley-bike-lock-attack-arraigned-in-oakland-court/

They are now looking for the Antifa who assaulted a journalist from CBS6 in the head because they didnt want to be filmed in the Virginia attacks.

Social media also got your Antifa people too

What's the twitter address?

These people actually committed crimes

https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist

Even for the racists ID'd who were just there chanting and not committing a crime- they are still screwed. The likes of GE/Microsoft does not want to be identified as a company that employs hateful racists.

Speaking of nuts, didnt hear much about a Trump hater killing his GOP committeeman neighbor by shooting him in the head twice right in front of his wife did we? They say it wasnt political at all, yet the guy has anti-Trump signs in his yard.

Probably because it wasn't political, you seem to think you know more than the police and the witnesses.

Why don't you research this yourself?

I know why, apparently you don't.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/11/aclu-joins-suit-against-charlottesville-over-movin/

They pulled the permit over public safety concerns. The Aclu etc. sued and won. Now the city is being blamed. Odd. Kinda seems they knew what would happen.

Probably because it wasn't political, you seem to think you know more than the police and the witnesses.

That's the fault of the Republican poodles of the NRA who write laws allowing military grade weapons on the American streets. Crazy is crazy. But these military grade rifles being used to murder people. That's on the NRA/Republican hands.

What's the twitter address?

We dont create an entirely separate Twitter address to try to make people lose their jobs or publicly shame them like you guys do. We only pursue people who commit actual crimes. The videos for these 2 people went viral on news sites and personal Twitter accounts which led to their arrests. The woman who is accused on inciting a riot was actually a guest on Fox News, and talked freely and proudly about her job as a school teacher and justified what she had done in this protest as well as all the property damage in Berkeley she was a part of.

The likes of GE/Microsoft does not want to be identified as a company that employs hateful racists.

Yes a few liberal college professors have been getting fired on the anti-Trump/Antifa side for doing or saying various stupid things too. I dont agree that your company should control what you do on your own time, but there is the reality of it that says you are probably gonna be fired.

They are now looking for the Antifa who assaulted a journalist from CBS6 in the head because they didnt want to be filmed in the Virginia attacks.

And if he or she is guilty of assault, then he or she should be charged.

The real question here is why the villification of people who stand up to nazis and terrorists? They have backbone something that the nazis will never have.

The nazis and those who enable them just exemplify moral cowardice. There is nothing "patriotic" or indeed, American, about them.

I dont agree that your company should control what you do on your own time, but there is the reality of it that says you are probably gonna be fired.

If I am a business owner and your bigotry/racism, even on private time, gets in the way of me running my business safely and profitably, I've got every right to fire you. Go work at Wizards r us.

We only pursue people who commit actual crimes.

Can you do a citizen's arrest of your President for incitement to violence, ta.

Simple. because the left calls anyone who disagrees with them politically a Nazi, not just actual Nazis (White supremacists). Who will be called a Nazi or terrorist next just to silence their political views?

Wasn't Mandela imprisoned most of his life under some made up politically based charge like "terrorist".

That and the use of violence instead of peaceful discourse. That can't happen. It's never ok assault someone with a weapon over political or personal views.

Another hoax staged by the government. Those crisis actors are ridiculous.

It's like the "red scare" of the 1950s when people were blacklisted because someone accused them of being a Communist.

As there was no court to prove you were or were not, anyone could simply accuse you to silence you politically or take your job or your property under false pretenses. We can't have that again.

Simple. because the left calls anyone who disagrees with them politically a Nazi, not just actual Nazis (White supremacists). Who will be called a Nazi or terrorist next just to silence their political views?

Oh the nazis, won't somebody please think about the nazis?

Seriously, I don't know about your "anyone who disagrees" straw men but this case? Virginia - these guys are nazis. Have you heard their chants? Read their filthy websites? Heard what they said to the young black protester as they beat him?

Wasn't Mandela imprisoned most of his life under some made up politically based charge like "terrorist".

Are you really comparing Nelson Mandela to White Supremacists?

That and the use of violence instead of peaceful discourse. That can't happen. It's never ok assault someone with a weapon over political or personal views.

Which is why I find your comments puzzling. If its not okay, why do you constantly make it about counterprotesters. The fact that you continually blame counter protesters is frankly despicable.

While I don't think DT is a white supremacist, he needs their votes.

And the former Vice Mayor of Charlottesville who turned an administrative position into a bully pulpit to attack white culture and history ?

Charlottesville Vice Mayor Wes Bellamy published several tweets between 2009 and 2014 using gay slurs, comments against white people, lewd slang for female genitalia and other profanities. 

http://www.richmond.com/opinion/our-opinion/editorial-what-to-do-about-wes-bellamy-s-tweets/article_c68e6458-55f8-5f8f-b7b5-703f893da153.html

No. Someone said Mandela was a terrorist when he wasn't so he was jailed and politically silenced. We don't allow that in the USA because someone could call anyone a Nazi when they aren't to get the same result. We don't have political prisoners.

Counterprotest all you want. Without weapons, without throwing urine and acid at people. You know actually speak and make a point instead of attacking people you disagree with using bats and metal pipes.

Oh Joe Biden's opinion is relevant and non partisan now? We didn't elect him either when he ran for president, sorry.

Some people at this rally were Nazis and some are not. There are also plenty of people not at that rally who have also been called Nazis who are not.

The point is to not protect confirmed Nazis it is to not allow people to be silenced or jailed by false accusations that are simply politically motivated.

And the former Vice Mayor of Charlottesville who turned an administrative position into a bully pulpit to attack white culture and history ?

Who cares? What's that got to do the KKK?

Also, as I white man, what do you mean by 'white culture and history?' German? Portuguese? English? Scottish?

Why does every comment y'all make inevitably boil down to, "they do it too!"?

Yes a few liberal college professors have been getting fired

What was the exact reason?

Trump already condemned groups on all sides re the violence at the rally.

Some people don't listen too good.....

I see a political motivation here, by a Democratic mayor and a Democratic governor who are up for re-election. First, they gave the white supremacists a permit for their demonstration. Any person with a hint of sense would know that this would attract the far left as well. Second, do not do anything to keep the two groups separated. Third, order the police to not intervene.

The result? Predictable. The permitted demonstration was disrupted by counter protestors. Both sides were tooled up and ready to rumble- nothing spontaneous, all planned. Once the inevitable violence starts, the mayor and governor can use the opportunity to beat their chests and "take a stand" against the hated far right demonstrators.

Who cares? What's that got to do the KKK?

More than Trump does. It actually has to do with the society wide hate on many sides that the president was condemning.

For certain (not all) Repubs in today's environment, there is a necessity to dog-whistle- in fact, it's been this way since the 1950s. Its not that all Repubs are open racists -the problem is that confronting those who are offend those closeted, a group which has traditionally composed a major faction of GOP support. Hence, Trump. I'm not saying he's racist - I don't know the man, and frankly would rather not- but he's clearly in on the game the GOP has been playing for decades. Eventually, you reap the whirlwind.

More than Trump does. It actually has to do with the society wide hate on many sides that the president was condemning.

Which the KKK and no one else then praised.

Any person with a hint of sense would know that this would attract the far left as well.

Then why did the KKK/alt-right sue for the right to protest? Any person with a hint of sense would know that this would attract the far left.

Interestingly enough, it wasn't the left, but the righties that wedding plowing into people.

There are also plenty of people not at that rally who have also been called Nazis who are not.

If you are seen marching among the nazis and you were caught on https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist then kiss your future goodbye. You are no longer considered corporate material. They will not touch you. Corporations fish out all your skeletons before they hire you. Some forgivable (acting like a drunk idiot at a pool party is OK as long as you didn't hurt anyone) but some not. And if you are on https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist that means it is NOT.

Check https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist

Takeda: you are 100% right. No question the KKK mob knew that their presence would draw out the fringe from the left. It always does.

However, that is not really the point. Both groups fed off each other, and were allowed to do so with the willing participation of the local politicians. My point is that nobody has clean hands. The supremacists were granted a permit to hold their event, the Antifa mob were not. Ditto at the news conference when the leader of the supremacists was assaulted and not given a chance to speak. I hate what he says and all he stands for, but he does have the right to say his piece without violence.

My point is that nobody has clean hands

No. No comparison between the white supremacist terrorists and counter protesters. Keep trying.

Both groups fed off each other

To a certain extent. But if you are a fringe on the right and you are identified in https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist then you are marked for life even if you don't commit a crime. As a "fringe left" you would have to commit an actual crime in order to damage your future potential. But just marching peacefully as a nazi - if you are ID's in social media you are screwed.

This means the fringe on the right is the real fringe and not accepted in society. They are the outcasts. They are not employable in any good job as no one wants to be associated with them. This proves the alt-right are the real losers. Alt left? No real scandal there unless you actually commit a crime.

"Alt left?" ー sorry, can you define that?

From what I understand, the "alt right" desires to return society to a time when Caucasians (and that word is used loosely - it didn't initially include, for example, the Irish) were relatively free to skim the cream off the top of whatever the prevailing economic system offered. BLM types have a more specific agenda: equal treatment under law.

Now, the former was at best a fantasy and at worst a result of institutional oppression. The latter is well-documented continuation of that institutional oppression.

So, again - what exactly is the "alt left" rather than a logical continuation of the civil rights battle?

Takeda. You are right again! The white supremacists actually went to the trouble of getting a permit for their demonstration. The antifa/BLM thugs did not.

Again, shame on the police and especially politicians for letting the situation develop as it did.

Update on the Daily Stormer:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/daily-stormer-anonymous-hack-cyber-attack-nazi-charlottesville-virginia-godaddy-a7891836.html

Curious and curiouser.

Meanwhile, Trump the enabler remains quiet as the line is being drawn.

It's quite clear, more than ever, with the vilification of those who stand up against nazis and racists - that sides are being taken.

It seems that Trump has succeeded in building a wall, after all. A wall between two Americas.

So, again - what exactly is the "alt left" rather than a logical continuation of the civil rights battle?

If you ask a Trump voter it would be:

An elite Liberal

BLM

A person who would vote for a Democrat

Mexicans

Muslims

Just something Trump voters hate I guess. What say you?

blacklabel: Simple. because the left calls anyone who disagrees with them politically a Nazi, not just actual Nazis (White supremacists). Who will be called a Nazi or terrorist next just to silence their political views?

Jut to be clear....you do not support the white supremacists, right? Because so far in all of your comments you haven't mentioned them, and they're kind of part of the story.

I see the alt left as a mirror image of sorts to the white supremacists:

Both favor identity politics over individual.

Both use violence to silence their opposition.

Both are intolerant of anyone who deviates even slightly from their ideology.

Both feel aggrieved and ignored.

Fortunately, both groups are actually pitifully small. The KKK/Nazis could comfortably all sit in a minor league baseball stadium and have room to spare. They do not deserve the publicity they are getting.

An elite Liberal

That kind of sums the Alt-left.

I see the alt left as a mirror image of sorts to the white supremacists:

Both favor identity politics over individual.

Both use violence to silence their opposition.

Both are intolerant of anyone who deviates even slightly from their ideology.

Both feel aggrieved and ignored.

Fortunately, both groups are actually pitifully small. The KKK/Nazis could comfortably all sit in a minor league baseball stadium and have room to spare. They do not deserve the publicity they are getting.

You hit it out the ball park! Agreed 100%!

I see Trump as a grubby reflection of sorts to the white supremacists:

Both favor identity politics over individual. Except when it comes to said white supremacists. But Muslim travel ban, Mexican criminals. Yes.

Trump asks his supporters to use violence to silence their opposition. And suggests the police should rough up suspects.

Both are intolerant of anyone who deviates even slightly from their ideology. They end up fired or demonised or tweeted at.

Both feel aggrieved and ignored.

Fortunately, both groups are actually pitifully small. Small brains and small hands. Sad.

The KKK/Nazis could comfortably all sit in a minor league baseball stadium and have room to spare

In the eyes of the Trump voter there are 100s of millions (up to a billion) of ALT left people

But if you are alt-right NAZI and are found on https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist better plan for a career other than Microsoft- even if you have no criminal record.

If you are ALT left as long *as you dont commit a crime you are in the clear.

Check https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist for the untouchables of society.

Only because the right doesn't make a place like your silly site for bad boys. Microsoft not hiring any known BLM or Antifa from that Tammy either you know? But then again those guys know what thry are doing is wrong so they hide your faces.

to answer another question, no I don't support white supremacists. I know they that means to person's character and reputation so I only want people who have actually chosen that lifestyle to be called that.

But you guys want to keep misusing the word to describe people you don't like who are not Nazis. That is not a word to throw around as carelessly and as politically motivated as the left does. Trump is literally Hitler the left screams! Uh no, not even close.

Microsoft not hiring any known BLM....

If they are qualified they would. The problem is Trump followers believe that BLM coordinate and finance police assassinations. They think that there is a secret planning room for deciding the next police target. Microsoft does not believe that. As long as you are not an ALT R nazi identified in social media and you are qualified Microsoft would love to have you (or GE, or Boeing). ALT right nazi identified on https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist? Kiss your corporate dream goodbye.

no I don't support white supremacists

Of course Trump supporters do. Remember their attitude towards Hawaii? Or how much they hate Mexicans and Muslims?

I see Trump as a grubby reflection of sorts to the white supremacists:

Both favor identity politics over individual.

Liberals haven't cared about people since LBJ.

Except when it comes to said white supremacists. But Muslim travel ban, Mexican criminals. Yes.

In other words, don't vet and allow anyone to come in, just like California with over 11 million illegal aliens, I keep forgetting, having a sovereign nation is utterly racist.

Trump asks his supporters to use violence to silence their opposition. And suggests the police should rough up suspects.

And yet, the hippie Antifa has years and years of violent protests documented and since Trump has been president, how many schools and university campuses like Berkeley have seen riots, burning, people with masks, intimidation and now these people are joining forces with other radical groups like the BLM, but they should get a pass because being a fascist is acceptable all of a sudden?? Liberals for some reason love to get violent. smh.

Both are intolerant of anyone who deviates even slightly from their ideology. They end up fired or demonised or tweeted at.

Both feel aggrieved and ignored. 

Fortunately, both groups are actually pitifully small. Small brains and small hands. Sad.

Let's hope they stay small, because if they get bigger, we are all in a world of....

Only because the right doesn't make a place like your silly site for bad boys. 

You can make one and see if Microsoft will listen (they won't). Twitter offers free accounts. Nothing is stopping you.

Meanwhile....

Check https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist for the worst of white society.

Liberals for some reason

Microsoft hires Liberals. They don't hire Alt right nazis.

For the update on the trash of American go to https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist

blacklabel: to answer another question, no I don't support white supremacists. I know they that means to person's character and reputation so I only want people who have actually chosen that lifestyle to be called that.

Based on the volume and direction of your comments, if it fair to say that murder by right-wingers is less important than your perception of how people are criticizing them?

What concerns me is that a right winger murders a protester, and the reaction from the right is to attack the left. That's a 1-2 punch. Your guys murder, then you follow it up by attacking the left on message boards. It's an all out assault. What happens if a right winger murders someone else tomorrow? Will you escalate your attacks on the left? It's that partnership that concerns me.

I agree that a twitter page like that one won't work for the BLM/Antifa crowd. You need to HAVE a job before you can be fired from one.

Let the two groups have at it. Beat the snot out of each other. I'll just get some popcorn and watch. As long as they don't interfere with anyone else. who really cares?

Unqualified, inexperienced businessmen EXPOSED as being totally and utterly OUT OF THEIR DEPTH. People of America: NOW do you pull the plug?

I agree that a twitter page like that one won't work for the BLM/Antifa crowd.

Again, in the mind of the Trump voter. Trump voters think that BLM is a terrorist organization. But in reality if a BLM protester does it peacefully it won't compromise his or her future. Yes, Trump voters think one important purpose for BLM is to assassinate cops. But ask any BLM member who follows the law and they will simply say we want less discrimination. Blacks are serving more prison time than whites for the same crime and we want that to change. What is the problem? The white nazis are honoring Hitler and say he was a great man and the US should return to slavery.

And you guys attack the right, ALL THE TIME.

No, they are doing it to themselves. Please check here for more details:

https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist

Interesting, two months ago, a Sanders supporter shot at a bunch of Republicans killing some and wounding a sitting congressman, the point: the left has zero room to talk about anything.

And if I go back to that thread I'll see dozens of posts from you criticizing white supremacist groups and saying how BOTH sides need to stop?

White nationalists who participated in the deadly rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend are being identified on social media, and at least one man has lost his job as a result.

(news source)

Keep them coming

Go to https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist

Think of all the American WWII vets that went to war and died to remove Nazi filth from the face of the earth. Go figure, it's now controlling the presidency and a good chunk of an American political party. Disgusting! Just filth. But one thing will at least be certain, this is going to draw Republicans onto a right and wrong side of history. At least we'll know who the real racists are (and yes, Black Label, I count you amongst them, but don't worry, you can be proud of it, at least for now).

Just looking through the YesYoureRacist twitter feed. Is it just me or has Trump's friend, David Duke really made a mess out of his face? He really should concentrate more of his energy on suing his surgeon rather than spreading hatred.