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Who is the real Ghislaine Maxwell: Epstein enabler or pawn?

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By DANICA KIRKA and TOM HAYS

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A little rich girl who groomed young girls for sex with wealthy powerful men so she could stay with the in crowd.

she has shown us who she is. Believe her.

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Spot on.

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Enabler or pawn? No, something worse. Recruiter and provider. A real witch.

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In other words, she was raised in privilege and had daddy issues. Then she attached herself to Epstein and didn't bat an eye to impropriety at the least, and more likely helped him procure the people to meet his debauchery and also engaged in it. Sorry, I have no sympathies for her.

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@P.Smith

A much-needed reminder that civilised countries have justice systems, not lynch mobs. At the very least, it’s important not to give any excuse for any claims of (literal) prejudice or mistrial should the verdict be based on anything other than actual evidence.

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She is innocent until proven guilty, just like everyone else caught up in the criminal justice system in the US.

She is, but she has a over a decade of evidence against her that is hard to refute, but she is innocent until she’s proven guilty n a court of law, so her defense attorneys need to be the absolute money can buy.

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a rags-to-riches billionaire who looted his companies' pension funds

Article makes it sound like looting pension funds is something unusual. Looting pension funds, especially public ones, is what Wall Street has been doing for decades, and the Trump Administration pushed through changes that made it easier for them to do the same thing to private funds.

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Article makes it sound like looting pension funds is something unusual. Looting pension funds, especially public ones, is what Wall Street has been doing for decades, and the Trump Administration pushed through changes that made it easier for them to do the same thing to private funds.

Ok and what specifically has this administration done to stop that?

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What kind of piece of opinion paper is that ?! Seems like directly written by her lawyer. Are the media trying to influence the public opinion ? Not possible ....

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She is just continuing her dad's role as Epstein's Mossad handler.

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typical media narrative setter to frame something as a hypothetical question that no one is asking.

another is the overuse of the word "allegedly" for things already determined to have happened.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/583312-actor-jussie-smolletts-trial-for-allegedly-staging-hate-crime

7 allegedly, 8 if you count the URL.

Both of these trials start today, so will need to be something Jan 6th related to distract.

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another is the overuse of the word "allegedly" for things already determined to have happened.

This is necessary before the trial is over. Otherwise it could bias the jury, the defendant could sue the news outlet, and even get the case thrown out of court. I understand that the far-right want instant justice dispensed by Big Strong Men, but I'm afraid that isn't how our legal system works.

She is just continuing her dad's role as Epstein's Mossad handler.

Epstein is dead. It was kind of a big deal. It's even mentioned in the article.

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I mean, come on man. If you consistently claim to want media to be impartial and then whine about this. It’s worrying to say the least.

typical media narrative setter to frame something as a hypothetical question that no one is asking.

You claimed it’s a question that no one is asking. So clearly, to bring you back on topic, you must have an answer to the headline.

Is she an Epstein enabler or a pawn?

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enabler. obviously.

no one is asking if she is a "pawn" other than a sympathetic media narrative headline writer.

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enabler. obviously.

no one is asking if she is a "pawn" other than a sympathetic media narrative headline writer.

Gotta agree with you here. It's weird that, while there are a few articles that are like "boo hoo poor Ghislaine", most aren't sympathetic. But for some reason, JT decided to reproduce one that tries to "both sides" a child abuser? An unusual editorial decision.

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I want to know if she was an enabler or a pawn. The trier of fact will determine this after the evidence has been presented.

Innocent until proven guilty.

That is certainly true in the sense of the law, which is, of course, the final arbiter, even if mistakes are made. However, the press should be much more careful in seeming to promote a sympathetic side to someone who has multiple credible allegations made against them by victims of sexual assault.

But Maxwell runs in the circles of editors and celebrity journalists. The Prime Minister of the UK's sister wrote an article defending her on the basis that "she seemed nice when we were at uni together".

It is, frankly, disgraceful.

If the press wants to argue that it can't say she's guilty or innocent until after the trial, I would agree. So don't publish any op-eds. The implied contempt for the victims as the alleged co-abuser is given soft gloves to make it seem like she had no agency in the sordid relationship that lasted for years makes my blood boil.

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Her dad “fell of his boat”… yer like Epstein hung himself!

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Hopefully, shewl go down for a long stretch, if she makes it to trial?

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I understand that the far-right want instant justice dispensed by Big Strong Men,

No, the right is just tired of all of these liberal DA NOT willing to prosecute alleged crimes and deciding instead of not pursuing them by not pressing charges or making sure they can make bail, that has got to stop.

but I'm afraid that isn't how our legal system works.

It should not, charge them with the appropriate crimes and let the legal system play itself out.

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In the end I hope the prosecution can get the names of those men that were involved even if she ends up with a light sentence. She would have to be under witness protection for a few years until the trials of these rich and famous men are completed but it’s better than spending the rest of her life in prison.

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Epstein was a convicted pedophile and the ALLEGED proprietor of a mossad 'honey trap' which ensnared politicians, ROYALTY, CEOs, and government officials. Epstein 'committed suicide' by beating himself senseless and then hanging himself from a bunk bed shorter than he was after repeatedly claiming that it would be "impossible for [him] to commit suicide" presumably hoping to proactively discredit what he had every reason to believe would be stalking him. Maxwell was his chief co-conspirator. The 'pressure' to silence Epstein and to sweep Maxwell under the carpet by MANY parties to this operation and its sponsors would be assumed to be very strong and, as we have seen with Epstein, implacable. That it sounds like a dramatic screen plot forgets that those dramatic screen plots are taken from past revelations of 'real life'. This is 'real life'. And Maxwell is no doubt aware that one wrong word and she, too, may suddenly become 'suicidal'. It is highly unlikely that she will be convicted or, if she is, punished appropriately. But, in any case, we will never know the 'truth'.

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It will be interesting to see what kind of hard evidence prosecutors will produce. I'm always a bit leery of hearsay testimony absent corroborating physical/digital evidence. Too often we find out many years later that someone was sent to jail, sometimes for decades, on "eyewitness" testimony that turned out to be false or that is contradicted by hard DNA evidence. Just be careful about coming to conclusions until you see all the evidence and hear what the testimony is.

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The claims that Maxwell senior was connected to the Mossad are allegations made by someone of, how to say, questionable veracity. It looks more like a way to sell his new book. He has Ghislaine Maxwell serving as a double or even triple agent, without offering any evidence to support the claims. It's cow manure.

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You believed that fake news?

I believed all those women, yes. Especially they all followed the same pattern, so I definitely think they’re believable.

Ouch. Certainly doesn't indicate you're very good at sorting fake news from real.

I have no idea what that means or what your talking about, but I’m not surprised of all people you would make that kind of comment. Lol

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It will be interesting to see what kind of hard evidence prosecutors will produce.

All those women especially that they can all put Maxwell at the scene of the crime as she was there and equally participated in many of the sex acts, so it’s her defense lawyers that need to be on the ball.

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Probably a bit of one, and a lot of the other.

The question will be can she play up the pawn aspect enough to avoid being convicted over the enabler/partner I crime aspect, especially given that she can't use an offer to help convict the other member of the partnership, but can offer to testify against other people.

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Opening statements in the Ghislaine Maxwell sex abuse case are expected to begin on Monday, as prosecutors try to convince a jury that the British socialite recruited and groomed girls for the late financier Jeffrey Epstein to abuse.

U.S. prosecutors say that between 1994 and 2004, Maxwell — a former employee and romantic partner of Epstein’s — gained the girls’ trust by taking them to the movies, sending them gifts like lingerie and discussing sexual topics, according to a 2021 indictment filed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan.

https://worldabcnews.com/trial-of-ghislaine-maxwell-girlfriend-of-jeffrey-epstein-set-to-begin/

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There is no way you can know this because the evidence has not gone through the crucible of an adversarial trial.

just you stayed tune it’s coming.

This is just all speculation at this point

Of course

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What the hell does Jan 6th have to do with the trial of a child sex trafficker?

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But not the Trump women?

Talk to the DA and see if he can bring forth charges.

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Ghislaine Maxwell spent the first half of her life with her father, a rags-to-riches billionaire who looted his companies' pension funds and died mysteriously. She spent the second with another tycoon, Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself

Pretty clear what this article is trying to do. It was Epstein who died mysteriously and Maxwell who killed himself. Nobody with a brain thinks Epstein willingly killed himself.

And then it turns into a sympathy article about his assistant predator.

One thing for sure, the media will do their best to cover for all the important people who helped abuse the girls. Maybe that's why Bill Gates has donated almost 300 million dollars to various media organizations.

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